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Francizy bro, welcome to the fold and let's make it happen for real...God bless your hustle good bro...

LRNZH:
This is GEJ using the other hand to withdraw the FOI bill he took credit for, probably in a reaction to the exposition of his weakness and corruption due to this elections.
Once gov't starts to actively spy on its citizenry, freedom is no longer in existence. Judging by the way GEJ and indeed other African leaders misuse power, this law will be used to witchhunt media houses and ordinary citizens on social media (think Nairaland etc).
My suspicion is that the paedophile part of the law is to window dress the spying part of the bill to create an appeal.
It is a bad law in general. How much hacking goes on in Nigeria? This is not even really an anti yahoo-yahoo bill sef to make it more pertinent. It is a shame GEJ's priorities are misplaced once again. He should have been pushing the legislature to pass more important bills like the PIB.
Nigerians should fight this bill before it is passed.


cc: Lalasticlala, Ishilove, Maclatunji, Obinoscopy, OAM4J

Most times, the urge to insult GEJ pushes most of you to expose how half-baked you are...
Just read what you wrote here and point out the correlation with the main post...
What's wrong in monitoring anyone's electronic devices especially in a "CRIMINAL CASE INVESTIGATION" as pointed out in the bill
What is really wrong with chaps like you...Is it just hatred or frustration or what exactly?
Criticizing without comprehension or even reading at all...pele

I am yet to see where you thanked GEJ for FOI...which Fashola and other APC states refused to domesticate...
What are they hiding since they are progressives, saints and not criminals or corrupt digital looters

wunmi590:
Thanks mod. For moving my thread to the front page for proper contribution.
6th for this year and 5th for this month, sign of good things as usual.

Long live me and my generation
Long live Seun Osewa
Long live the Moderators
Long live Nairaland
Long live the contributors
Long live Nairalanders
Long live Dr. GEJ
Long live Federal Republic Of Nigeria

I am ashamed of your write up bro, because you stated boldly that you are a graduate.
Kindly go back and review all you wrote up there...How can you not be able to construct a coherent and correct sentence as a graduate...plz start from first page##

kaboninc:
I think you should read your own comment and not muddle things up.

For effective result, you should pursue PREVENTIVE STRATEGIES than allow a problem to fester and then providing a cure. You may be overwhelmed with the problem at hand after it has occurred. Every responsible manager pursues preventive strategies and does all they can possibly do to avoid problems.

I can give you two examples.

As a bank manager, you do not just go and start giving people loans even when they have verifiable collateral. What's most important is the business for which the loan will be applied. And businesses have a viability measure. That's where Risk Management comes in.

Two. You can have a stock of perishable foods in your store house. The rats will definitely love to come around for free lunch. You can kill as many as you want. But if an 'imported' rats comes into that same store, it'll do the same thing. So to you, what will be your solution? For me, I'll ensure my barn is well PROTECTED. This is where strengthening institutions comes in.

That's the reason why killing mosquitoes will neither end nor reduce malaria spread. But taking preventing measures like avoiding stagnant water, keeping your environment clean, etc will PREVENT the spread of malaria. If mosquitoes don't have a place to breed, malaria won't have the opportunity to spread.

Coming to CCTV installation and speed trackers, the idea is not to 'prevent' crimes or high speed racing but actually to catch these law breakers. Like the trap and poison would do to the rats in my example above.

Then to Government's effort at preventing corruption, the use of technology like you said is playing an excellent role. Thieves are attracted to something that has value. In this case money. You keep a thief and money together, you know the consequences. Bring all the thieves together and use one as a scapegoat. Then put these thieves and the money together and see what will happen. Like rats, they will steal.

A thief always believes that he can always find a new way of stealing without being caught. Technology is like the wall.

Have you also noted that 'curing' a disease do come with some side effects?

God bless

dustydee:
Did I claim to be "intelligent"? I was just stating the obvious. New Zealand that you referred to punishes offenders and that acts as a deterrent to others who may be contemplating crime. For the avoidance of doubt, deterrence means "prevention". Let me give you an example, having speed cameras alone on highways does not stop people from over speeding but people are cautious because when they over speed, they expect a ticket or fine with pictures delivered to their address.

Now, how many crimes have been solved with the Abuja CCTV? It was installed as a means of using technology to prevent crime but Boko Haram has carried out at least two bombings in areas in Abuja that I am sure has CCTV cameras and we are yet to see footage of the bombings or the vehicles that carried out the bombings. If the same Nigerian government that implemented these ideas is the same that will carryout the electronic anti corruption measures, I don't think it is out of place to point out the potential loopholes/failings of the system. And the question is while we wait for the full implementation of the system, should we allow the rogues to continue roaming the streets and enjoying their ill gotten wealth?
Guy, reason with me and leave politics aside for a while.

Bro, From your own example, the speed camera is a preventive measure which is part of what GEJ is preaching. It stops the "majority" from the crime. While the punishment therein will now help to check the recalcitrant "few" who may still fail to obey.

You; buhari and APC has no NEW IDEA in the fight against corruption. You're telling us that you will jail corrupt officials. This your technique is not only archaic but inefficient as has been proven right in the fight against armed robbers and kidnappers.

What do we do now? We have to go with GEJ who has a novel idea that tends to run a "cashless government". Wherein the corrupt government official doesn't see any money at all talk more of the one he will steal or loot. This is classical case of crime prevention. Being proactive like GEJ not reactive like buhari. We're in digital age bro not analogue. This is the more reason why buhari can't rule now. Nigeria is far beyond his thinking faculty now.

Finally, we are in democracy now not military. GEJ is executive which is different from judiciary and legislature. Anybody from Atiku, Jagaban, Mbadinuju, Saraki, FFk etc remains free, innocent & true citizen until proven otherwise by court of competent jurisdiction. You don't expect GEJ to send EFCC after anyone the media or APC tags corrupt or to jail them...

dustydee:
Why is she asking and answering the questions herself? Why are the questions not thought provoking?
Goat and yam analogy - Seriously? If you know that that when you steal you are definitely going to be punished, doubt most people will deep their hands into the treasury knowing that they are likely to be caught. There are still ways of circumventing the IT systems even though I admit it makes it more difficult (theoretically). If the people that operate the system still have the same mind-set, there's nothing that stops them from manipulating the system to loot our collective wealth and this time it is going to be more difficult to detect.

It pains me when some of you folks who claim to be intelligent end up proving the opposite.
If your system & style of fight against corruption which unfortunately is championed by Buhari is right and fool-proof; why do we still have armed robbers & kidnappers even with all the jail terms and executions

Why not Google great and noble countries like New Zealand to see how their country runs; which curtails corruption to barest minimum. Technology as championed GEJ is simply their little secret. GEJ is for prevention while Buhari is for cure. And we all know that; "prevention is better than cure". Stop the crime from even taking place at all, not mere media drama in the name of fighting corruption...

Strong institutions not strong individuals bro, gets the job done. Forget all these your Adolf Hitler cult-like following of buhari.

Get informed before criticising or maintain some dignified silence bro...

Requiescat in pace...Amen

barcanista:
Well, we have no choice but to appreciate continuity because I don't see change powered by the same people that pummeled Nigeria into a state of uncertainty between 1999 and 2007/10. They all can't continue to hide behind the integrity of Buhari to force their way into power. Change comes from a genuine heart and not by rhetorics

Amen bro...Sure, the man may have a golden heart but he can't operate with such shackles on him. GEJ just extricated himself from some of them, we expect him to move faster now with development... Buhari will first have to fight the battle of self-assertion in his government which is most likely to be hijacked by these folks funding him now...And the corruption he wants to fight is a hydra-headed monster which will NEVER be eliminated with prison terms...remember; all the armed robbers imprisoned and shot dead. Has it ever reduced the menace? Not at all....##Cure the cause not the effect##...Build strong institutions not strong individuals...
Also, separation of powers won't allow you to just impose your wish on people... it is democracy for sure...

OdenigboAroli:
You are a confirmed ignoramus....lol
If China can duplicate US designs and produce them doesn't that tell you they can meet that quality if they wish to? The molds that are used to make these products are equally made in China,you sshhit brain. The only reason China make substandard products is to make it affordable to their people and to also compete in the market not because they can't make quality products. As for visa...I have been living in the US for over a decade,not everybody is foolish like you.

Why not ignore someone who has pledged his allegiance to slavery of the white?
Since his US is willing to do business with Nigeria if kickbacks are disallowed. It then means that there aren't corruption in US Story story...
Does it mean that the few US companies here are corrupt?...
Does it mean that all other companies in Nigeria exist because they offered kickbacks?
China is doing business and is willing to continue doing business...shikena
Don't mind that guy with slave mentality who is forcing himself to sound coherent and intelligent...
I am yet to see any economy in the world without a taste of China in it...

poiZon:
cityNg 0
whynotthetruth 5
WHY has win d contest.
chinese products....... cheap, affordable, cost effective, durable, cheaper parts
us products.......... expensive, not affordable, parts are expensive, durable, still scatter when it collides wif another.
verdict ........... for sound n vibrant economy chose china.

God bless you...Also, observe China's willingness to do business with Africa as championed by Nigeria without hidden agenda as US...
There's no economy in the world today without a taste of China...

barcanista:
A true patriot appreciates good policies and programs of government. What is going on in the manufacturing sector is not just welcoming, it should be encouraged by all and sundry, the call for sustenance of this policy should be made. Nigeria need to be the manufacturing hub of Africa. We have the human and capital resources, the political will is all that is needed. If Jonathan is showing the will, then the sky will be our starting point.

Sure, Jonathan is doing it...This was confirmed by foremost manufacturer; Sam Ohuabunwa of GEJ's intervention in their pharmaceutical manufacturing sector(first of its kind in Nigeria history)...I think for the first time, Nigeria is getting it right in terms of policy formulation by government(local content policy, backward integration policy; Obj started this but Jonathan blossomed it, automotive policy, industrial revolution master plan, etc) but I fear for continuity should GEJ give way....

CityNG:
1) I'm not your Brother. And before you start to accuse others of lack of education you should look within. But I don't blame you. I blame your government for not providing good educational opportunities for all and also the ones they provided are seemingly always on strike.

2) I'm pretty certain that you tried to formulate a coherent question herein somehow but alas I don't do gibberish. So compose properly and then I'll answer this line.

3) Look at answer #2. I'll be waiting for a coherent response from you. Just put the bottle down, splash some cold water on your face and come back to the keyboard.

4) I wasn't criticizing. I have a long standing promise that I will defend the US at each opportunity whenever some of you dunces try to put her down. The article was wrong and I pointed it out. I offer no apologies to you that my presence causes you lack of sleep.

Please stock up on recharge cards as this may be lengthy depending on your debating stamina.

Boy, it's good you spelt out where your loyalty lies early enough...
For that singular reason; I won't waste my time talking to an alien and a slave to whitey...
Finally, learn your spellings by buying a dictionary lest you keep making a 'fuul' of yourself in the name of correcting others... While at it, also get acquainted with the difference between British and American English...mpama olodo

Ucheosefoh:
some are real like this one but many are fake

Can you kindly ignore that guy to keep entertaining and feeding his fantasies plzzz?...How is such childish act related to this thread's topic and issue of discussion Let him enjoy his fantasies for now; at dawn he will scream, screech and be scared...

CityNG:
Hate and jealousy of what exactly?

With your lack of maintenance culture all these products will be littering the roadside in a few years anyways, regardless of the quality.

Bunch of uneducated whackos.

Bro, you seem the uneducated one here plz...Is this a government agency or what? Is this a public utility facility or what to you?...What do you mean by lack of maintenance culture in a private organization of international repute...Do you just criticise for the fun of it or you have something positive to offer

CityNG:
And you're an imbecilic dunce and a total waste.

Sure China can make a duplicate US designed and produced merchandise but can never match the R& that US companies go to make safe products.

Get your education on industrial manufacturing before allowing your brain to signal your arthritic fingers to approach the keyboard.

What do you idiotas gain from bashing the US at each move anyways? Is it because they denied you a visa?

Bro, thanks for your contributions so far albeit skewed. Be sure China can and has been matching that your supposed US quality standard always and everywhere...production/manufacturing is done according to certain agreed/stated specifications/standards...
Kindly quit this your talk about quality difference; because it doesn't hold water...
BTW how many of such US quality equipment of your dreams do we have here in Nigeria? who produces the ones we have been using if not China?

Geeweeny:
it is really funny seeing people hating on something like this, for once forget the party you belong n try to see the truth, you will know that GEJ adminstration has done well when it comes to industrialization,if it continues like this without stopping, Nigeria will be great

Amen bro...it is really pathetic to see the reasoning of some who desire and pray Nigeria should burn just to tarnish the image of Jonathan...##anyway, in Timaya's voice; who God don bless no man can curse##

barcanista:
This Manufacturing drive will not only create jobs but will take youths off the streets and less crime shall be witnessed. This is a welcome development, I hope it becomes materialised for a better Nigeria.

I pray so too bro but to see guys hating against it makes me imagine what this ridiculous few who claim they're majority really want...

tola9ja:
Proverbs 6:30Revised Standard Version (RSV)

30 Do not men despise[a] a thief if he steals
to satisfy his appetite when he is hungry?

you are sick...anyway, even the devil quoted the bible when it suited him...

agabaI23:
People who show aversion to good things and ideas because it is not coming from them can hardly progress in life.

Na so bro...it is really sad how horrible some people can be...

VANHELLSING:
Bros u fall my hand ooo , Don't reply that good for nothing, sadistic & cretinous omenka. He doesn't worth your reply, he & his likes belong to the dustbin & should be allowed to rot there.

my mistake bro...have learnt today...thanks all same..

tola9ja:
Matthew 23:17English Standard Version (ESV)

[size=17pt]17 You blind fools![/size]

Do not play with the bible bro...

tola9ja:
In the UK, General Buhari got a standing ovation.

In Washington, they believed in him.

In Russia, they applaud him.

The rest of the world are applauding General Buhari.

Now let applaud General Buhari by our stating our state of origin and followed by SAI Buhari.

let him go and rule there nah

kay1one2:
Lets just pray its fixed soon. Its an fg road. Old road winds like a snake. Except in public transport I can't drive that road. Hear its a shorter route to enugu sef.

I pray so too...Both of them are fg roads...

oweniwe:
you'll be amazed that 80% of d drivers that ply the road dont know about the bypass alternative lying paralel to the expressway

Sure, the traffic I saw on that road when I travelled down last time before I revised to join the other route confirms this your assertion...

kay1one2:
The awkwuzu- tarzan axis of that road is bad. I.e the early part of it closest to onitsha. The later aspects might be manageable! The awka -enugu axis is also bad. I know because I drove that route alot when workinģ in the east.

The old road is way too thin.

Old road too thin? Not as broad as the express way but not too thin to me...I don't know why CCC and the other company has been too slow on that job...maybe government's fault or litigations or from the companies... don't really know why...

Trut:
Following

lolz...we have to keep pushing it till lalasticlala, Obinoscopy, Ngwakwe and other mods come our rescue...

kay1one2:
Which road will they ply? Onitsha-awka rd is the worst in nigeria! And I've been around! Last I was on that road was nov last year!

I think you mean Enugu-Onitsha express route though the Old road of same Enugu-Onitsha is very good and motorable...

Abagworo:
Remove Obi. Obiano is a good man with good plans. However he should not allow Government run businesses or they will serve as avenue for milking the State.

Sorry, why should he remove Obi?

Trut:
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cashkid:
President Jonathan further insulted our collective intelligence when he said during his recent media chat that he was not consulted before the postponement was announced! So who is in charge? Does it mean the service chiefs will write letter to the National Security Adviser declaring that they cannot guarantee the security of citizens during the 24 hours voting period or a maximum of 48 hours of election period without the knowledge of their commander-in-chief? What came out of the president’s attempt to rationalise this major disaster is that he is a prisoner of vested interests who are using him to fight dirty wars. Their common denominator is the fear of a Buhari presidency and the need to scuttle that from happening, by all means. And they are many.

There are those who have stolen the country dry and are therefore afraid of Buhari coming to power with his reputation and moral authority of fighting corruption. In this category are those who have been stealing money from the petroleum industry and not remitting sales into the Federation Account as required by law; those who have been stealing money outright from budgeted funds; those who stole pension funds and stopped retirees from getting their dues; those who have been stealing at state and local government levels; and those who have been sweeping under the carpet all the numerous probe reports running into trillions without properly recovering the funds and prosecuting the guilty.

There are those who are eternally afraid of Buhari for their fear of him for their past misdeeds and will never imagine a Buhari in power as long as they are alive. They have lost credibility at home and abroad; they are afraid of their shadows and live in eternal fear of even a lizard that falls down from the wall. They are afraid of being demystified but people are already tired of their antics. Like the old hyena which has lost its teeth, they can only salivate but cannot bite. They are left with only nocturnal conspiracies and daylight hypocrisies as they await their day of reckoning, which is fast approaching. It is an agenda within other agendas and layers and layers of webs of intrigues like the last fight in a tragicomic drama.

President Jonathan was tricked into fighting the battles of these people, but he should ask himself an honest question: why is Buhari so popular now after six years of the Jonathan administration? The answer is very clear: unprecedented insecurity; monumental corruption; general insensitivity; and mass poverty have been the lot of Nigerians under this administration and they are looking for a credible alternative which Buhari symbolises. To compound matters, Jonathan has appointed mediocre aides to take charge of state policy thereby reducing governance to a charade that it is now. The statements coming from government officials are always infantile, pedestrian and unpresidential.

How can anyone take Jonathan serious as a president when his main supporters are those who have sworn to dismember Nigeria and who do not even believe in Nigeria, such as Asari Dokubo? Consequently, as Tope Fasua wrote in Sunday Trust of February 15, 2015, “we have never seen such atrocious, acrimony-based campaign as the one he (Jonathan) is currently using the commonwealth to pay for, directly or indirectly. Neither Obasanjo nor Yar’Adua, nor their supporters were this vicious, this careless, this bloodthirsty”.

Jonathan and those using him must remember that they can delay but can never stop the change that is coming to this country. The people of the Niger Delta must know that their enemies are not the rest of Nigerians who do not have oil in their backyards, but those in charge of their wealth and the fat over-pampered pigs who call themselves militants who feed fat in their name. The budget of Bonny Local Government in the Niger Delta is more than the annual budget of many non-oil producing states but the poverty rate in Bonny is definitely higher than that of those states. In addition, the physical development in those states with the meager resources cannot be compared with that of the oily Bonny. These are the questions they should ask.

Those who are using Jonathan in their proxy wars must remember that there is overwhelming consensus for change as over 70 percent of Nigerians, including the international community are ready for a new government after the failed policies of the Jonathan administration. If they really love Jonathan they should have started advising him to prepare for free, fair and credible election; prepare for his exit strategy and safe landing; and prepare to be forgiven of all his mistakes and sins as long as he can respect the wishes of the people of Nigeria; or prepare for a disgraceful defeat. The choice is with President Jonathan and with Nigerians.

As Mr. Fasua concluded in that same article “How an incumbent hopes to owe salaries and contractors, sometimes puny amounts, spend trillions on elections, condone corruption, surround himself with extremists, approve the airing of the most divisive and distasteful of campaign videos, have no cogent plan about reforming the future of our economy, declare austerity on the people, take on the international community who put him there, expect Nigerians to keep operating as a zoo, and win elections, remains to be seen. The odds are totally against him and six weeks of divisiveness will be nothing”.

Already the ruling party is no more the largest party. The APC is now the largest party in Africa and that is why the PDP is afraid of elections. The circumstances are also different since the PDP is in total crisis and going into elections with less than 30% rating. As Wole Olaoye wrote this week in Daily Trust, “Doyin Okupe, SSA to the President who had earlier compared Jonathan to Jesus Christ, went berserk in his anti-Buhari propaganda. Instead of promoting Jonathan his boss, his strategy was to denigrate the person of the APC presidential candidate, Gen. Buhari. ‘Gen. Buhari is not electable and would not be elected by the grace of God. And why I am saying that is this, Nigeria would not have a president that has not gone to school. This is not going to happen. In Nigeria, it will not happen. Buhari will not be president!’”

“The journalists were scandalized. As Okupe ranted on, they rose in unison and chorused APC! APC!! APC!!! Disgraced but not embarrassed (Okupe is beyond embarrassment because he was not at home on the day God distributed that capacity) he waddled his way out of the venue. That this was happening right within the State House spoke volumes about the extent to which the present administration has alienated the public with its lies and hate”, Olaoye concluded. History is on the side of the oppressed.

You are kid indeed like your moniker suggested...go learn the definition of democracy and how it functions with effective leadership styles...then come back with this epistle....

Tallesty1:
Etisalat and Glo bring more gain, followed by airtel but MTN sells out fast in my Location.

Is it advisable to set such up and allow someone else to manage it? MTN that sells out is the bomb that's if you get the idea of turnover... get my drift?

Blackfire:
before 20 comments,this good thread will be rubbished by haters*see them*

It is happening already bro even before the 20 you prophesied... Can't wrap my head on how people will be happier to hear bad news than good news about others including their fatherland... yet they want progress in their own life...###karma will always be a good master##....Seun, Lalasticlala, Obinoscopy, Ngwakwe & other mods; kindly allow Nigerians to see what's going on in our economy... thanks