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Mikedml17:
Spits on thread ... If say dem don do election she 4 no remember una na... She no remember una wen e sure say ehn husband go win last election , dia leg kon de shake nw she get una numba ...ure relevant few days 2 election ... Mediocrity

FRUSTRATION... TAKE IT EASY ON YOURSELF BRO...

PassingShot:
Are you for real? Are we talking about the same woman who has run from one court to the other to frustrate the House of Representatives to hold a public hearing over allegation that N10 billion was spent on chartered jet by her?

What misconceptions did she clear other than excuses as I earlier said?

Is that all you understood from this interview

barcanista:
That is why I said like Alamesiegha. You know the kind of bargain we had with Alams and Tafa Balogun is different from the Ibori kind? The Good thing is they will be exConvicts and it will follow them.

Sounds good anyway...but those guys are heavy financially and some are devil incarnates...Hope they don't become "more than" state institutions prosecuting them...Knew one of them in Apapa; a very young guy with intimidating war chest financially... BTW he's APC man for real...lolz

barcanista:
i understand the level of corruption in the Judiciary, but the prosecutors themselves need to do more. A Plea bargain(as it was done in Alamesiegha's case) can be exploited to expedite justice. One good thing is that we have the FOI in operation at the Federal level led by Jonathan. It is a very good platform to explore in tackling these things.

Plea bargain No, remember the case of Igbinedion and his slap on the wrist in the name of plea bargain...
It seemed more like justice denied...

princemillla:
Toor!

Honestly, I think the best way to end all this corruption is stop giving post to all this people that studied abroad.

Most of this people who are mismanaging our resourses now school abroad.

My POV tho!

lolz... can you explain the mismanagement of our resources more plz...

PassingShot:
I laugh at your reasoning.

A minister of petroleum who keeps blaming the occupant and government before her/theirs is not worth listening to because if the immediate occupant before her was that good, she will probably not be appointed. She was appointed to fix a problem and the next question is, did she fix those problems?

We are talking of critical reasoning here mister. She should do the job and stfu!

The problem with folks like you is that you read with prejudice hence your comprehension is skewed...

She cleared the air about some misconceptions especially with subsidy and made reference to other issues to paint clear pictures for biased folks like you...yet insulting her was the best you could offer...

She's achieved a lot already there(investigate independently)....

Now, With your party men obstructing passage of PIB what do you advise her to do now?

barcanista:
The opposition in Nigeria is the worst in history of democratic society. The PIB is being held because of "tribalism", partisanship and personal beef with the Minister. The opposition has politicised everything and not just that, their hypocrisy has been superb. My position on the subsidy thieves is that they be brought to justice and made to refund what they fraudulently took.

Such a pathetic group of opposition...

On the subsidy thieves; it is good they be brought to justice but you know what our judiciary is like...and the "cost" of justice in Nigeria...It won't be easy not because it isn't right but the system is too cumbersome, bureaucratic, costly, and corrupt...

I read James Ibori's conviction cost a whopping #4.4billion...

PassingShot:
All I read and see is a failed minister trying to justify her failure with excuses upon excuses.

In a sane clime, this woman can no longer speak in the public given all her stealing of our resources.

Your obsession with APC, even when not relevant with the topic of discuss is a sign of someone losing his/her sanity just like FFK.

How does the topic have anything to do with the nonsense you've put up there?

If all you saw in this interview was failure...it then means that you aren't fit for the sane clime you advocate and won't even recognise same when you see it...

Opposition style of reasoning in Nigeria is obscured and dangerous to our national sustenance...They never see any good neither do they have an alternative solution which is viable constructively... You mustn't be in charge to make a change...Why not manifest that "change" first in your states of dominance before seeking for the centre...charity begins at home bro...

barcanista:
@OP thank you very much. Though I was reading to hear her explanation for the prosecution of subsidy indicted fellows and the N10billion jet hiring by her. However, I have to agree with some of her points especially as they concerns the local content and the problem with the subsidy regime. She also said that government still need to do more to get the benefit to the populace which I entirely agree. The area I'd also have loved to hear is the PIB bill which is begging for help in the Parliament(NASS).

Sadly, we have opposition that has vowed not to even probe the "past", nor have said anything with regards the PIB. They don't even believe in transparent leadership, so we won't know whether they spend N100b on meal alone or N70billion on tooth-pick(in their state level they are against the FOI), pluse the calibre of men in the camp coupled with hypocrisy.

Let us continue to support the government and seek to Change within the PDP.

Great, your observations were germane...I have tried without success to know why and what exactly is keeping the PIB in the NASS unending now...

The playing to the gallery and politicizing even damn issue by the opposition won't allow us to even know and see the truth about some salient issues...

On subsidy thieves...I have no information about them but I will search for the report on 10billion jet issue to post it here...She's addressed it recently...

theVOICE,agabal23,barcanista,Ngwakwe...Can we have an informed discuss on this interview plzzzz

Cruzeiro:
Yes you av.. Y'all demystified the oil sector wit ambidexterous corrupt activities. Shame.

Can you without rhetorics or any form of ambiguity list out the corrupt areas with solutions as well...
Also, buttress your point with APC solutions to these problems... I am waiting

sincerenigerian:
I created a thread yesterday based on discussion I head with prominent man ((name withheld) in Kebbi State. https://www.nairaland.com/2171244/pressure-jonathan-sack-inec-chairman



We are ready for Jonathan. Go ahead and push Jega out illegally and see what happens. Abacha and Babangida tried it but they failed. Jonathan will definitely fail. If you can win an election, you change the umpire. Jega has done nothing wrong.

I get irritated most times seeing sentimental, uninformed and biased comments like yours littered all over this forum...
1)Why threaten Jonathan as if you can withstand yellow fever bulala talk more of other paramilitary or military forces?
2) Is the topic about terminal leave or sack ? Is it a constitutional matter or an executive fiat?
3)Must Jonathan circumvent the constitution to please your lot and APC? Even if election is tomorrow; and Jega's tenure elapses today. He has to go otherwise any election conducted after then by him is illegal...Or you want Jonathan to contravene the law to make you happy Why is it that other officers before him went on such constitutional terminal leave without rancour except him Should we shift the goal post because of him & APC?
4) Should Jega still be talking about PVC distribution by this time; If he was unbiased and ready for the elections
5)How logical is it to you that Northeast with the insurgency and wanton deaths cum destruction from boko haram has over 70%PVC collection than the seemingly peaceful south
6)Is your rant a product of patriotism or perjured mindset?
7)What was Jega doing since 4years ago which he had to prepare for this election?

Ngwakwe:
Prof Jega had four years to prepare for this election but wasted it.

He had planned to rig not only the election but also 2016 census in favour of North-East and North-west by allocating unimaginable extra polling units to the zone until he was forcefully stopped by the Senate from applying his option A.

Then Jega decided to use inequitable distribution of PVC as option B to rig the election where he allow proxies to collect and distribute in the North while dumping that of the South in various INEC offices across the regions with a stringent set of rules.

To make the matter worst Prof Jega wants to use the loophole in our constitution and electoral law known as substantial compliance to legally deny millions of voters across South their PVC in order to reduce their regional voting power and population estimate

Jega has contributed negatively to fall in Naira against the dollar by repeated lying on the fathom readiness of INEC before 14th Feb, 2014.

God bless you bro...Sincerely, I am finding this forum a little boring with so many unintelligent and uninformed individuals ranting aimlessly around and about here...sentiments without brains...kudos again for this intelligent post...

"It was a thing of joy for me when I visited places like the burnt down Okrika Jetty a couple of years ago to commission the products loading arm that was rebuilt only to discover that companies like Lee Engineering which did the construction of the project from A to Z was 100% Nigerian, all the engineers are Nigerians". Diezani(2015)...



Sure, many Nigerians are getting it right...LOCAL CONTENT POLICY is one the hallmark policies of Jonathan administration whose impact is quite tremendous...

The Minister of Petroleum Resources, Mrs Diezani Alison-Madueke, recently fielded questions from a select group of editors to clarify a number of issues in the oil and gas
sector ranging from the controversial kerosene subsidy and alleged subsidy scam to the allegation of $10bn expenditure on jet private hire as well as the PwC audit report.

Excerpts.

On Kerosene Subsidy

There was a Presidential directive to withdraw subsidy on kerosene. It is possible that the Minister of Petroleum at that time must have gone to discuss it with the President
and may have been able to convince him on the need to stay action on the directive. I assume that that may have been what happened, that he had a discussion with the
President but he overlooked regularizing in terms of getting him to rescind the order.

So, if anybody flouted the Presidential order then it must have been the Minister of Petroleum at that time. But since the directive was not gazetted and was not announced it was not a law; it was mainly a directive on
paper because there are procedures that a directive must follow to become a law and become implementable. I don’t know why people keep referring to this. But anyway,
another president came and appointed his own
cabinet and moved on.

Now, because of the confusion created by this situation, marketers who, prior to that time, were bringing in kerosene pulled back. The reason was that if they brought in kerosene at the international landing cost and sold at our subsidized rate and didn’t get paid the difference, they would go bankrupt.
So, there was immense confusion and I think it was at that time that the NNPC had to step in and started supplying. That was before I became Minister of Petroleum.

This was where the problem of deduction of subsidy claims at source started. The issue of deduction at source has also been severally argued as to whether NNPC has the right or not to cover all those particular expenses from crude oil sales proceeds.

That was the situation with subsidy at that time. When we came out in January 2012 to try to regularize the system by removing subsidy on petroleum products, of course we all knew what happened.

Efforts to Rid the Subsidy System of Corruption

So, based on all that, subsidy on petroleum products continued up to this point. It is a sore point because, in all honesty, just like PMS, it is a very difficult issue to handle. It becomes even more difficult when revenues are falling because of the price of the barrel.

It is very difficult to pay vast amounts on subsidy which we don’t believe is getting to the actual users, the bottom line users of the PMS, but which is instead making middlemen fat. But we wanted to remove the subsidy. We wanted to deregulate too because we discovered that there was corruption in the subsidy system which had gone so bad that we were not able to move products seamlessly from one point to another.

There was arbitrary price increase in some areas and products were selling above the regulated price thereby making nonsense of the subsidy scheme.

Then there was round tripping, terrible incidence of round tripping. It got to the point that I even had to get the permission of Mr. President to invite the EFCC to come and look at the books and help us figure out what was happening because the level of PMS import we were getting clearly showed that something was wrong.
That was in 2011. At some point the round tripping was extended to kerosene which was being diverted and sold as aviation fuel. Marketers would take their allotment of
kerosene and sell it as aviation fuel which is more expensive. You know the kerosene that is imported into Nigeria is of the same specification as aviation fuel.

That is why it is called Dual Purpose Kerosene (DPK). It was not profitable to import what is really the base level of normal Household Kerosene (HHK). These were some of the problems we had. As I said earlier, we had written to the EFCC and didn’t get any response, that meant no solution. In November 2011, even before we tried deregulating, I removed 92 marketers with one stroke of the pen from the PPPRA books, these were
throughput marketers who didn’t have tank farms, who didn’t have any real investment in the sector.

We took this action because the level of investment into tank farm is so huge that if you can do it you won’t want to get involved in any shady deal. Besides, such investment entitles you to carry out throughput for other marketers and they will pay you to do that.

By the law that is acceptable. That law wasn’t made in our time, it was there before we came in. So it was clear to us that the problem of round tripping was coming from those who didn’t have hard investments in the sector. And there were 92 of them in our books which we flushed out.

That was when I brought in Reginald Stanley to head the PPPRA. The fellow I brought in before didn’t seem to have helped in sorting out the issue at all because it looked like it was getting worse. I asked Stanley to try and reform the petrol importation and subsidy system to bring the subsidy bill down.

I told him that after stabilizing things we could bring some of the throughput marketers back, those who pass certain expectations, because it is in our laws, it is not as if throughput marketing in itself is illegal. So I signed them off, 92 marketers in one day. It was after I dropped them that the level of subsidy dropped significantly.

Strides in Local Content

We have been able to domicile some of the jobs in the sector that used to be carried out overseas within the country thereby creating jobs for many Nigeria youth.

Manufacturing of small parts for the oil and gas sector is now being done in-country which was not the
case before now. It is not just the manufacturing but the quality of the goods is such that we now have prospects of producing for other multinationals outside the country.
This has helped to create a lot of direct jobs over this period of time and hundreds of thousands of indirect jobs. It was a thing of joy for me when I visited places like the
burnt down Okrika Jetty a couple of years ago to commission the products loading arm that was rebuilt only to discover that companies like Lee Engineering which did the construction of the project from A to Z was 100% Nigerian, all the engineers are Nigerians.

We are very proud that this sort of thing could be happening at this point in time. Now, these are major steps in the oil and gas sector because it is highly capital intensive, highly technological. We have been able to achieve this because we understand that until you get the industry down so that it can touch what I consider the real economy, until you begin to commercialize it, oil & gas always seem to be up there, a sort of mysterious
sector for the very wealthy, extremely wealthy.

The multinationals have access to billions and billions of dollars, but we are beginning to pull it down so that ordinary people who can gather together the financial wherewithal can also be players in the sector. Like I said, not all of these are highly capital intensive, there are many other areas that are quiet minor in terms of capital outlay. Many people are coming in now. And this was the intent from the onset: to demystify this sector. On
the Nigerian content side, I think we have done very well and we will continue to try to do even better.

Gas Infrastructure Development

During this period too, we started looking at what we could do to develop our gas resources. We have to pull out gas issues from the PIB and specific gas projects from the Gas Master Plan to implement to fast track gas to power, gas to industry and of course to ensure that value is added to the economy.

Source: www.vanguardngr.com

1toRtoiSe1:
The confab doesn't hold yoruba agenda at all- femi falana (a delegate at the confab)

If he said this then; it simply means he is a failure otherwise what did he go there to do? What agenda did he promote? Who's interest was he there to protect?...Femi Falana & co who claim monopoly of wisdom are real poison to the society...

The corruption in this Lagos is a microcosm of what APC will do to national treasury if allowed to smell it...I weep for these unrepentant group of thieves and more so, for their sycophants...just see what egift typed after reading about corruption and mortgaging of the poor in Lagos...why not keep quiet than insulting our sensibilities with such diversionary comment

allenbaker5:
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Sure they are devils in the APC but it seems to me that they have succeeded in telling Nigerians that any thing other than PDP is okay

Maybe true for the folks that bought into those propaganda and lies...

God bless Goodluck Jonathan... It is about strong institutions not strong individuals...Systemic approach to governance and using world best technological tools to prevent looting from taking place at all...

Iamsynord:
shey na Only Northern Council go vote. Endorse Kor Engross no
Sai Buhari

Boy, would you have said or reacted this way if this was in favour of buhari

allenbaker5:
It seems the PDP should have done better within the 16 years they held power because comments from Nigerians suggest that there has been a failure in governance but can the alternative offered by the APC be trusted

The acronym PDP has existed for 16years but APC has existed for less...but the individuals in both has existed and being running Nigeria for same 16years.
If anything at all, APC has existed albeit indirectly for this 16years as well...(Tinubu, Saraki, Amechi, Atiku, Kwankwaso, Rochas, Oyegun, etc)

I prefer following individuals to following party; because they seem same to me though PDP are better in the sense that they accept their corruptibility, while APC claim saints but are very deadly sect of digital criminals and looters...If Lagos domesticates FOI today; you will cry at the level of corruption in that state...

In as much as you tried to sound unbiased and neutral but you didn't disguise your allegiance very well. How can you remember to enumerate the "sins" of Jonathan vis a vis PDP one after the other but at same time, fail to enumerate that of Buhari & APC, just a summary using an ambiguous word to cover it all?...

But no matter what, buhari has no moral right or justification to contest under Democratic rule in Nigeria?
How come his campaign promises are NOT synchronizing with all his stance before this election Why the double standard and hypocrisy?...

Remember, he insulted Jonathan for not granting boko haram amnesty but in election, he's preaching no amnesty again for them...He said an attack on boko haram is an attack on the north but today; he is telling us that he will fight boko haram...Why all the deceit

I think the person of buhari should be judged from what he stood and represented before this electioneering campaigns... He's a dent to any sane democracy and progressive elements...

arabbunkum:
There was this fine girl in my department who refused to help me buy pencil despite the fact that she was going to a shop nearby to buy her own. She went as far as raining insults on me for daring to send her on errand in front of our coursemates.
I remained calm and started targeting her. I became unusually good to her and thanks to my calm tactics, she became my campus wife. She washed and ironed my clothes, prepared my meals, cleaned my room, and willingly submitted 'her thing' to me all through our final year. #Alwaysbecalm.

lolz... as in who laughs last thingz... slow poison bad wella

dein77:
I'm cool. Good you know me.

But is it also a part of the change to compromise someone's identity?

Shiorrrr

You just made me laugh out so loud now...That's their tacit way of blackmailing people and identities...
Don't mind them jare...
Let them start their change with APC debt laden states. Charity should rather start at home...
If Jagaban and Fashola couldn't in their 16years in Lagos build 70% of roads and schools in Lagos state alone, with their intimidating IGR and federal allocations; how come GEJ will solve a 30year problem in less than 5years

Francizy bro, welcome to the fold and let's make it happen for real...God bless your hustle good bro...

LRNZH:
This is GEJ using the other hand to withdraw the FOI bill he took credit for, probably in a reaction to the exposition of his weakness and corruption due to this elections.
Once gov't starts to actively spy on its citizenry, freedom is no longer in existence. Judging by the way GEJ and indeed other African leaders misuse power, this law will be used to witchhunt media houses and ordinary citizens on social media (think Nairaland etc).
My suspicion is that the paedophile part of the law is to window dress the spying part of the bill to create an appeal.
It is a bad law in general. How much hacking goes on in Nigeria? This is not even really an anti yahoo-yahoo bill sef to make it more pertinent. It is a shame GEJ's priorities are misplaced once again. He should have been pushing the legislature to pass more important bills like the PIB.
Nigerians should fight this bill before it is passed.


cc: Lalasticlala, Ishilove, Maclatunji, Obinoscopy, OAM4J

Most times, the urge to insult GEJ pushes most of you to expose how half-baked you are...
Just read what you wrote here and point out the correlation with the main post...
What's wrong in monitoring anyone's electronic devices especially in a "CRIMINAL CASE INVESTIGATION" as pointed out in the bill
What is really wrong with chaps like you...Is it just hatred or frustration or what exactly?
Criticizing without comprehension or even reading at all...pele

I am yet to see where you thanked GEJ for FOI...which Fashola and other APC states refused to domesticate...
What are they hiding since they are progressives, saints and not criminals or corrupt digital looters

wunmi590:
Thanks mod. For moving my thread to the front page for proper contribution.
6th for this year and 5th for this month, sign of good things as usual.

Long live me and my generation
Long live Seun Osewa
Long live the Moderators
Long live Nairaland
Long live the contributors
Long live Nairalanders
Long live Dr. GEJ
Long live Federal Republic Of Nigeria

I am ashamed of your write up bro, because you stated boldly that you are a graduate.
Kindly go back and review all you wrote up there...How can you not be able to construct a coherent and correct sentence as a graduate...plz start from first page##

kaboninc:
I think you should read your own comment and not muddle things up.

For effective result, you should pursue PREVENTIVE STRATEGIES than allow a problem to fester and then providing a cure. You may be overwhelmed with the problem at hand after it has occurred. Every responsible manager pursues preventive strategies and does all they can possibly do to avoid problems.

I can give you two examples.

As a bank manager, you do not just go and start giving people loans even when they have verifiable collateral. What's most important is the business for which the loan will be applied. And businesses have a viability measure. That's where Risk Management comes in.

Two. You can have a stock of perishable foods in your store house. The rats will definitely love to come around for free lunch. You can kill as many as you want. But if an 'imported' rats comes into that same store, it'll do the same thing. So to you, what will be your solution? For me, I'll ensure my barn is well PROTECTED. This is where strengthening institutions comes in.

That's the reason why killing mosquitoes will neither end nor reduce malaria spread. But taking preventing measures like avoiding stagnant water, keeping your environment clean, etc will PREVENT the spread of malaria. If mosquitoes don't have a place to breed, malaria won't have the opportunity to spread.

Coming to CCTV installation and speed trackers, the idea is not to 'prevent' crimes or high speed racing but actually to catch these law breakers. Like the trap and poison would do to the rats in my example above.

Then to Government's effort at preventing corruption, the use of technology like you said is playing an excellent role. Thieves are attracted to something that has value. In this case money. You keep a thief and money together, you know the consequences. Bring all the thieves together and use one as a scapegoat. Then put these thieves and the money together and see what will happen. Like rats, they will steal.

A thief always believes that he can always find a new way of stealing without being caught. Technology is like the wall.

Have you also noted that 'curing' a disease do come with some side effects?

God bless

dustydee:
Did I claim to be "intelligent"? I was just stating the obvious. New Zealand that you referred to punishes offenders and that acts as a deterrent to others who may be contemplating crime. For the avoidance of doubt, deterrence means "prevention". Let me give you an example, having speed cameras alone on highways does not stop people from over speeding but people are cautious because when they over speed, they expect a ticket or fine with pictures delivered to their address.

Now, how many crimes have been solved with the Abuja CCTV? It was installed as a means of using technology to prevent crime but Boko Haram has carried out at least two bombings in areas in Abuja that I am sure has CCTV cameras and we are yet to see footage of the bombings or the vehicles that carried out the bombings. If the same Nigerian government that implemented these ideas is the same that will carryout the electronic anti corruption measures, I don't think it is out of place to point out the potential loopholes/failings of the system. And the question is while we wait for the full implementation of the system, should we allow the rogues to continue roaming the streets and enjoying their ill gotten wealth?
Guy, reason with me and leave politics aside for a while.

Bro, From your own example, the speed camera is a preventive measure which is part of what GEJ is preaching. It stops the "majority" from the crime. While the punishment therein will now help to check the recalcitrant "few" who may still fail to obey.

You; buhari and APC has no NEW IDEA in the fight against corruption. You're telling us that you will jail corrupt officials. This your technique is not only archaic but inefficient as has been proven right in the fight against armed robbers and kidnappers.

What do we do now? We have to go with GEJ who has a novel idea that tends to run a "cashless government". Wherein the corrupt government official doesn't see any money at all talk more of the one he will steal or loot. This is classical case of crime prevention. Being proactive like GEJ not reactive like buhari. We're in digital age bro not analogue. This is the more reason why buhari can't rule now. Nigeria is far beyond his thinking faculty now.

Finally, we are in democracy now not military. GEJ is executive which is different from judiciary and legislature. Anybody from Atiku, Jagaban, Mbadinuju, Saraki, FFk etc remains free, innocent & true citizen until proven otherwise by court of competent jurisdiction. You don't expect GEJ to send EFCC after anyone the media or APC tags corrupt or to jail them...

dustydee:
Why is she asking and answering the questions herself? Why are the questions not thought provoking?
Goat and yam analogy - Seriously? If you know that that when you steal you are definitely going to be punished, doubt most people will deep their hands into the treasury knowing that they are likely to be caught. There are still ways of circumventing the IT systems even though I admit it makes it more difficult (theoretically). If the people that operate the system still have the same mind-set, there's nothing that stops them from manipulating the system to loot our collective wealth and this time it is going to be more difficult to detect.

It pains me when some of you folks who claim to be intelligent end up proving the opposite.
If your system & style of fight against corruption which unfortunately is championed by Buhari is right and fool-proof; why do we still have armed robbers & kidnappers even with all the jail terms and executions

Why not Google great and noble countries like New Zealand to see how their country runs; which curtails corruption to barest minimum. Technology as championed GEJ is simply their little secret. GEJ is for prevention while Buhari is for cure. And we all know that; "prevention is better than cure". Stop the crime from even taking place at all, not mere media drama in the name of fighting corruption...

Strong institutions not strong individuals bro, gets the job done. Forget all these your Adolf Hitler cult-like following of buhari.

Get informed before criticising or maintain some dignified silence bro...

Requiescat in pace...Amen

barcanista:
Well, we have no choice but to appreciate continuity because I don't see change powered by the same people that pummeled Nigeria into a state of uncertainty between 1999 and 2007/10. They all can't continue to hide behind the integrity of Buhari to force their way into power. Change comes from a genuine heart and not by rhetorics

Amen bro...Sure, the man may have a golden heart but he can't operate with such shackles on him. GEJ just extricated himself from some of them, we expect him to move faster now with development... Buhari will first have to fight the battle of self-assertion in his government which is most likely to be hijacked by these folks funding him now...And the corruption he wants to fight is a hydra-headed monster which will NEVER be eliminated with prison terms...remember; all the armed robbers imprisoned and shot dead. Has it ever reduced the menace? Not at all....##Cure the cause not the effect##...Build strong institutions not strong individuals...
Also, separation of powers won't allow you to just impose your wish on people... it is democracy for sure...