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imperiouxx: Why do you have to copy and paste what was on another website here motherf u c k e r? Source of this plagiarism http://www.faithfreedom.org/?p=43005

You're a Bleep**g re.tard..
Read to the end before making comments

EPOMA: If you people really understand history, you will know that the jewish and christian use to dress the same way in the very olden days, so i don't know why this way of dressing should only be attributed to the muslimand then become offensive

Incredible, even with the lenghty edit, you still made this post. Does it have to be caps, bold and pink?

tevinsolt: from the atheist point of view there's no objective point to life
so why blame Hitler for killing Jews, but commend those who abort their babies
what's the point of being good to others if there's no ultimate motive to it since everything will go downhill at some point

There is no atheist position on that, end of story.
Theists have a lot of 'stories' related to purpose, etc though. Usually related to.. (I'll be nice for now), god.
Now, who gave god his purpose? I'm going to give you my position, not atheist's, note that. Perhaps life gives itself a purpose simply by being alive? Since god is man made perhaps you (theists that need a purpose) also create its purpose?
Btw, you having existential crises is usually a sign budding skepticism. Let it flow through you.

Perhaps you shouldn't bother with eternal boogie-nesses because.. Nobody knows. The same with the retard ops conclusions, he could settle on not knowing, then setting out to find out how the unicorn showed up. He comes up with something testable/verifiable/logical, then we're all happy. Either ways this has nothing to do with atheism, and it's disingenuous to suggest so.
Atheist positions...

Uyi Iredia: Who is mad ? If you act like a fool it's my responsibility to tell you.

You still mad?

Edit: I see you still stoopid as well..

some-girl:
The hearts of many are evil, the parents of these children will get to see these pics and videos.
I don't want to imagine how they'd feel.
It's bad enough that they were killed but to have the process all over the place is awful.
Can't understand why people take pleasure in photographing and circulating these things.
Does it give them pleasure of some sort?

It seems it doesn't bother them, but this a good thing. In fact, it needs a lot more press. I feel for the family, but the bigger picture has to be the focus. It's about preventing nonsense like this from happening again, so screw sensibilities and the 'protect the children' mentality just to avoid hurting some feelings. Face the issues head on.
Closing your eyes and denying there's a problem, suffering and smiling, one of our specialties. This is how 9jerians behave, to the point of still beating a dead body, we now have nice pictures of these exemplary citizens as well. Everyone on this planet should see, maybe that would engender change.

What do cultists do btw? Have tea parties? Kill goats? Gossip? Are there any financial benefits?

"HIJAB IS NOT A DRESS CODE FOR CALL GIRLS& PROSTITUTES& MEAT SELLERS,IT THE DRESS CODE PIOUS,MORAL,TRUSTFUL MUSLIMA ,WHO LOVE THEIR CREATOR MORE & PROTECT ALL FROM OTHERS & GIVES ALL ONLY THEIR HUSBANDS,DON'T COMPARE A WILD VULTURES WITH INNOCENT LAMB

1.An act of obedience.
The hijab is an act of obedience to Allah and to his prophet (pbuh), Allah says in the Qur'an: `It is not for a believer, man or woman, when Allah and His messenger have decreed a matter that they should have an option in their decision. And whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger, has indeed strayed in a plain error.' (S33:36).

Allah also said: 'And tell the believing women to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things) and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts, etc) and not to show off their adornment except what must (ordinarily) appear thereof, that they should draw their veils over their Juyubihinna.'(S24:31).

Juyubihinna: The respected scholars from As-Salaf As-Saleh (righteous predecessors) differed whether the veil cover of the body must include the hands and face or not. Today, respected scholars say that the hands and face must be covered. Other respected scholars say it is preferable for women to cover their whole bodies.

2.The Hijab is IFFAH (Modesty).

Allah (subhana wa'atala) made the adherence to the hijab a manifestation for chastity and modesty. Allah says: 'O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) over their bodies (when outdoors). That is most convenient that they should be known and not molested.' (S33:59). In the above Ayaah there is an evidence that the recognition of the apparent beauty of the woman is harmful to her. When the cause of attraction ends, the restriction is removed. This is illustrated in the case of elderly women who may have lost every aspect of attraction. Allah (swt) made it permissible for them to lay aside their outer garments and expose their faces and hands reminding, however, that is still better for them to keep their modesty.

3.The hijab is Tahara (Purity)

Allah (swt) had shown us the hikma (wisdom) behind the legislation of the hijab: `And when you ask them (the Prophet's wives) for anything you want, ask them from behind a screen, that is purer for your hearts and their hearts.' (S33:53).

The hijab makes for greater purity for the hearts of believing men and women because it screens against the desire of the heart. Without the hijab, the heart may or may not desire. That is why the heart is more pure when the sight is blocked (by hijab) and thus the prevention of fitna (evil actions is very much manifested. The hijab cuts off the ill thoughts and the greed of the sick hearts:

`Be not soft in speech, lest he in whose heart is a disease (of hypocrisy or evil desire for adultery, etc) should be moved with desire, but speak in an honourable manner.' (S33:32)

4.The hijab is a Shield

The prophet (pbuh) said: "Allah, Most High, is Heaven, is Ha'yeii (Bashful), Sit'teer (Shielder). He loves Haya' (Bashfulness) and Sitr (Shielding; Covering)." The Prophet (pbuh) also said: "Any woman who takes off her clothes in other than her husband's house (to show off for unlawful purposes), has broken Allah's shield upon her. "The hadith demonstrates that depending upon the kind of action committed there will be either reward (if good) or punishment (if bad)."

This looks familiar. I might be seeing a pattern here

Edit: em, yeah, so this made front page. So many seem to misunderstand, acceptable considering the length and probability y'all don't show up in /religion. This is a quote (hence the whole thing is in "" ) from the comments section in the source page. Followed by my comment,
"This looks familiar. I might be seeing a pattern here"
If you don't get what I'm trying to say, well... Seriously, I even make fun of the situation just two posts above *smh*. Btw, do you believe in a god? Because odds are I think your beliefs are just as silly (just more evolved than muslims).
And supposing these likes are from muslims (there were 33, this may reduce drastically soon considering theist indignation ), it's good to know how easy it is to feed sheep what they want to hear. Manipulate from there...

Sheesh, I have to bold this so it's clear... I'm even getting muslim followers... If I had @abdulsleeks skills I'd spend the whole day trolling
Dohoohohohohoho

It is quite possibly the best video I have ever seen...

Is this for real? They now tell people what they can and cannot wear? They suggest throwing feces?
Hahaahahahahahah

It is jungle justice, it is silly. Respect to oyb and countless others for their brave deeds, but burning people alive is NEVER the answer. The value we afford human life is disgraceful. Some talk about cleaning up the bottom rather than the top, so you think teaching the bottom that it's ok to burn people alive is 'cleaning up the bottom'?

Even if there were no mistake (and there are wrongfully accused victims of this nonsense), you think normal people grow up thinking to themselves 'I'm going to be an armed-robber when I grow up'? When a crime is committed, frankly, society has failed. You become an armed robber when there's no other choice. Now, even for the eediots that are just sociopaths, the fact that society was not able to recognize that there was something wrong with this person usually indicates a problem. Enter ppl who say I'm protecting criminals etc. I'm not, I'm asking that you create a society where the law means something. Instead we'll spend our time bickering amongst ourselves (like asking what tribe did the robbers come from, wth does that have to do with anything?) and enabling police/justice to become inefficient and corrupt. We do this while also celebrating myriad sociopaths at the top (note, quite a few good up people there, but quite a few very aware of the harm they cause society, and many others with good intentions unwittingly aid the cancer while working for our government), letting them get away with far worse.

Our governments potent inefficiency is frankly what 9jarians deep down want. We want fairly lawless country where a man can chop contracts in peace, buy big cars and throw big parties to show the haters who's boss. Also, we like to burn people alive.

mkmyers45: I know...we must die won't we? From our own illussioned view we view the brain as limitless and in a way we arent wrong are we?

Possibly, but the idea is to extend life, so will current capacity suffice? Also, what you are saying is that the neurons will be kept fresh and new, which is fine (expected really), but if they're going to be used more, due to extra data from a long life, will they be fast enough to deal with memories so that is slows down the perception of time? Else it could take one the whole morning to pick a tie, he'll just stay there reminiscing. You don't need to have alzhemers before this becomes a real problem.

mkmyers45: There is something you are failing to understand....the Brain is limitless in capacity...its just that due to ageing, Body organs can no longer proper heal themselves so we have organ failure which is of course coupled by a lot of other factors...If all your organs are functioning at the right rate, why should you have problem walking,stretching,running,thinking etc

That doesn't make it limitless.

tbaba1234: ^ You see that is what the western civilisation doesn't understand about the muslim world.... The western world was in the dark ages when they were ruled by religion.....

Muslims were at the peak of scientific revolution when they had Islam ruling them..... Most of the scientists in the muslim world were also religious scholars...

So coming from that world view, you can see why muslim will not agree with you on that point....

Like i said, i will start a thread soon that looks at the roots of the problems...

Ok then, looking forward to it

mkmyers45: Yes, its all part of the regeneration....

The issue with too many memories is too many memories.. Like a hd filled to capacity, with a sizable amount of junk, you have to process more data, so imagine searching through the data. So does the regeneration address speed of thought? It should also ideally increase capacity. I'd be impressed if it does.

mkmyers45: Regenerative medicine is finally aimed at longetivity and youth so a 200yr old can look,work and think 30

Does that mean you get to keep all your memories?

maclatunji: It's an interesting commentary the only thing I would say is that there's a kind of cyclical pattern between Western and Islamic civilisations when it comes to scientific knowledge and innovation. Muslims were leaders when Europe was in the Dark Ages and Europe only began to be enlightened after being exposed to several Arab texts that served as a bank of the old world knowledge. Therefore, one cannot say that Muslims do not value scientific knowledge or innovation. It is just a point that will be left soon.

Islamic countries have already began to show innovation again- check the financial world even Qatar's victory in winning the bid to host FIFA 2022 World Cup when it's just a small patch of desert. Also check the UAE's economic development model which is something countries like Nigeria can learn from. Etisalat is doing well in Nigeria and elsewhere in the world and it is owned by Muslims. Dangote contributes about 1% of Nigeria's GDP through his companies and so on. Muslims are making impact in different segments of human life, the situation is not as dire as you present it.

I can't comment much on the actual history, I'm no expert. I've seen it floated around though that the discovery of greek work fueled islam's successes with science. This is normal, science builds on past science, but it is implied that once muslim scholars were through with those, they ran out of ideas quick. Or rather, the environment prevented the growth of ideas, as obviously talented scientists were in the muslim world. A lot of people seem to blame this guy

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Ghazali

First I'm hearing of him, I will have to educate myself.

The arab worlds current success in some regions is noted, but still dependent on knowledge from the west as far as the technical aspect is concerned. The far east for instance competes actively with the west.

@tbaba
Scientific method has been existing long before the advent of islam. Before aviccenna there was hippocrates and other greeks.
before them some egyptians. But yes, there were some heavyweights in the muslim world (you forget algebra).

I think quite a few points from this article stand. Also, separating professional life from religion is really important. Most muslims are happy keeping both tightly coupled together. Until they are separated problems will arise. Government, work etc, have to be completely separated from religion. That looks unfeasible to me when I look at the current islamic world. You certainly can't force change on a people, and even if you could, what gives you the right? (Ie if they aren't harming you). This is just my opinion though..

Sorry can't give better response, time... Thanks for your insights so far

On a random parroting note, I remember a scientist pushing his case against racism at the turn of the century. He acceded that blacks were at the bottom of the food chain, but millenia ago we were at the forefront, and that these things were cyclical.

mkmyers45: You'll remain young..

what do you mean?

^^^
I tire...

It has nothing to do with first causing eternal nothingness beginning everythingness infinity blah blah blah-ness. There were no gods involved in writing this post (especially the personal ones). Same thing with big b@ng etc. Same thing with everything. However, whatever the process, there were no gods involved. That is all atheism is, a rejection of the existence of gods. Provide evidence, then we can talk.

Random: You could even go further and say that if a hypothesis becomes testable, then by definition, it is now science. God thunders in? It is now in the domain of science, in a manner of speak. (edit: for instance quantum mechanics is science, it is some very weird $hit, but it is testable. Conclusions as to what really is happening vary, but it's still science as its effects are observable). Whatever you call god becomes testable? It likely isn't a god anymore.

musKeeto: Got the glass question, i think

fff,eee

pick middle f, pour contents in middle e, return it to original position...

fef,efe

yeah.. good night guys..

Heh heh... Night

musKeeto: Lol.. the glass question is giving me a serious headache.. and its midnight here already ..

I think he means switch, in which case just switch the 2nd and 4th, that's the only thing I can think of. Some sort of redistribution of the contents maybe? Nah

Kay 17: This is not helpful and could mislead one to think you are ignorant. The change from the common ancestor among apes to human is said to have taken over a million years, being aware of that fact; wouldn't it be disingenious to expect a scientist to directly observe such a change within his life time!?!

You've seen celestial bodies forming, haven't you? Rivers form from small streams (without human agency)? Mountains, the effects of erosion, etc etc
/sarcasm

musKeeto: Taxi driver wasnt driving but running or walking.

The only thing I've learned from these riddles is my math isn't as bad as I think it, and my imagination is lacking in many respects. I didn't think of this...
Then again, I'm usually wasted when on NL...

alaric saltzman: First weigh three coins against three others. If the weights are equal, weigh the remaining two against the last 1. The heavier one is the counterfeit. If one of the groups of three is heavier, weigh two of those coins against each other. If one is heavier, it's the counterfeit. If they're equal weight, the third coin is the counterfeit.

That is correct! Maybe! I don't understand your first step, there might be an error there. The last step is correct, so I'm guessing I'm just not comprehending properly. There are more complex versions of this, but I have to run for now...

Uyi Iredia: From bragging to blabbing you are a confirmed fool. Retreat into your shell Mr tortoise.

Calm down bros, why so mad? Stoopid is curable, sometimes...

Uyi Iredia: Quit being a pu.$$y. Nobody knows means just that Nobody knows; stop pretending it implies doing science.How is proposing God as the Creator illogical. You'll have to learn this when debating me. You don';y just shove nonsense in my plate. You show why a point is valid. Now, what & how is being a Christian mean accepting something as illogical? String theory fails the test of Occam's razor so I'll let it slide.

Quite possibly the most stoopid thing I've read yet on NL. Most likely because of the attempt behind it to appear intelligent, while failing completely.
I'll let you go.... For now.....

CrazyMan: Well...I'm not perfect if that's what you're trying to ask me.

But as for sinning freely, if I do that, it would be a mockery to my faith. I try as much as possible to keep myself away from avoidable sins.

But whenever I feel I've done something wrong, I would immediately ask God for forgiveness.

Hebrews 10:22. Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.


Why should I do that?

Let me use Nairaland as an example.

The atheist in the house can attest to my attitude towards them. Even though the make jest of God and say blasphemous words on daily basics, I still joke with them, laugh with them and even wish them well. You can ask them if you doubt me.

We're all children of God...so I'm in no way better than anyone here.

I can never wish any one harm whenever I pray.

Yeah, he's all about love and stuff. Can't think of a reason he'd pick 'crazyman' other than his irrational love of 'god'

vedaxcool: He also believes the world came from nothing and something at the same time. This is how we are suppose to redeem them from self imposed intellectual potholes

Bros, your hypocrisy is astounding, go home. One minute you're claiming atheists are dodgers, next you're refusing to answer a simple question.
Add that to you being a muslim... One of the victimized yet intolerant types?
Go back to your crib

Uyi Iredia: Don't be inane. Sit down and think, I repeat sit down and think. You yourself put it in capital letters that NOBODY KNOWS. How then does this imply that you want to do the relevant science. Whilst doing the science you should at least know the data you are going to gather. You can't do science in a vacuum. What science is being done to know what lay before the Big B@ng I ask. If you like, run away from this question.

NOBODY KNOWS, THEN YOU DO THE SCIENCE TO FIND OUT YOU Arrow. EVEN PRIMARY SCHOOL STUDENTS UNDERTAND THAT.
As far as TESTABLE science is concerned, not much. It is impractical to do so because of current technological limitations, our as yet incomplete understanding of this universe etc. Do you think copernicus should have attempted a trip to the stars? Some people do believe that conditions before that period, if you could even use the word before, are from another universe. By their definition we will never be able to explore that, so there's no practical reason to bother with it. Note I say 'some'. You have a problem with these folk? Regardless...
Because we have not YET found any way to test conditions before the big b@ng, we should arbitrarily make stuff up? If you're xtian, then you're also likely proposing we accept something that is both illogical and unprovable as FACT. String theory makes so much sense a lot of money, time effort is put into it by the scientific community, but said community certainly does not regard it as fact. You do realize there are various hypothesis/conjectures about pre-big b@ng conditions? But until their testable they'll remain that.

Uyi Iredia: No. You do science so you do know. You don't do science and say science doesn't know, that's stup1d. BTW, quit bragging.

Don't be a fuc***g eediot, stop it. You do science so you do know, in other words you don't know then you do science you fuc***g retard. You test, try and probe till you do know. While doing the science you don't know, is this so difficult to understand? We are still doing the science yet you somehow already have the answers. How? Just because

And get a dictionary and look up the meaning of bragging, and perhaps retardation as well.

vedaxcool: ^^^^

I think the subject matter being discussed is very clear , if you cannot address the thread within its context then you really don't have to bother to answer it at all!

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You mean to.... Dodge...
In such a cheap way?