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OLAADEGBU:
Are you saying because their is no footage of the incident therefore it did not happen or that it cannot happen in this day and age?

That it didn't happen. Just as if some deluded dudes showed up and claimed zombies were having a picnic in some city in the middle east and there were (at the very least) no footage of that happening one would tell them it didn't happen and commit them to a psychiatry.

Now, to be fair, this case is a little different, as it can happen. Unlike your zombie tales (which you inexplicably believe) we know $hit exists. We also know one could hold in his hand and fling it at people. No problems with the physics or biology there. However, we also know that most people are extremely averse to $hit. Those that aren't are well aware that others are, and thus one would only result to shit flinging in extreme situations, not moi-moi ones like you describe.

However, if one were naturally predisposed to behave more like our more "primitive" cousin apes.....

OLAADEGBU:
Watch the videoclip below and see how gays feast on faeces in their 'love making'.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjnrLt3VuSM

You seem confused. You think only gays indulge in that? You (pretending to be a) sweet, pure, innocent soul.....

NSFW

http://2girls1cup.ca/

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=scat&FORM=HDRSC3

BTW, many heteros also have butt sex.

In a 2007 report regarding the prevalence and correlates of heterosexual anal and MouthAction among adolescents and adults in the United States, a National Survey of Family Growth (NSFG) found that 34% men and 30% women reported ever participating in heterosexual anal sex. The percentage of participants reporting heterosexual anal sex was significantly higher among 20- to 24-year-olds and peaked among 30- to 34-year-olds.[57] A 2008 survey focused on a younger demographic of teenagers and young adults, aged 15–21. It found that 16% of 1350 surveyed had had this type of sex in the previous 3 months, with condoms being used 29% of the time.[58] However, given the subject matter, the survey hypothesized the prevalence was probably underestimated.

What should we do about them? Shall we lock up them up for 14 years too?

Also note, not all gay couples engage in anal. It's something like 2/3rds of them. As for scat? Dunno, but I actually wouldn't be surprised if more hetero couples engaged in that than homos (there certainly are more hetero scat videos than gay ones, but population could explain that). Common sense (which we sane know isn't so common) should tell you it'd be in the extreme minority in any group. Likely not even up to 1%. Though humanity......

Anyways, anal sex, scat, oral: whatever <- sexual behaviors. Not tied to a particular group. Sure, a group may engage in a particular practice more so than another, but that doesn't make it exclusive to any group. At all......

Really not sure if you're fooling about with this video or if you're a genuine buffoon, especially considering what I said earlier about your desperation and the prejudice of your sources. I mean, what does scat have to do with the accusations in your op? And look at the end of this video you posted. Those dudes did look like our ape cousins about to fling some $hit.

Black man don suffer with these jewish fairytales.....

At least it was a good laff.

onetrack:
I resent being excluded from this. I am not gay but I fully support equal rights for gays. So please be more inclusive, don't call it a gay mafia, call it a gay/atheist/freethinker/left-wing mafia that I can proudly claim to be a part of.

lol

Hear hear

(Wait for these clowns to "atheism = gheyism" in 3,2,1....)

OLAADEGBU:
Desperate of what?

Are you trying to tell me that in this day and age, with the ubiquity of smart devices, where one pours some water over some bigoted priests head and gets caught by a camera, some other folk fling shiite at others and NOBODY, nobody at all, records it?

Not even a picture? Even in Africa dem go catch dem let alone first world Germany.

And btw, can you imagine yourself going through the trouble of actually storing $hit just so you can fling it at someone?

Didn't think so.

Before one would resort to that, something real drastic must have happened. So even if one (illogically) gave you the benefit of the doubt, one would very much doubt that something as simple as school curriculum would elicit such reactions from activists. No.

The video you posted, where the clown makes the accusations, ends with him calling homos all sorts of nonsensical things. What a balanced view he is bound to have! (Please note sarcasm, as some of you....well...)

Yet you expect to be taken seriously?

So, considering when I initially saw this post, you had opened 2 other threads attacking homos, I ask again; why are so desperate? Why so afraid of them that you see the need to senselessly attack them repeatedly? Is there something we should know?

Op, teams don start dey win away games?

That league table does look a bit more realistic the shambles we've been fed in the past

Gaddamit Kano! Gaddamit Arewa!

Davidylan deleted his account?

I thought we were having fun....

Or did he finally learn his lesson after a fhooking PHD (in Biology no less) and ~45000 posts on NL?

Is this some sort of wizardry? Is there really a god? Are these really 'end timez'?!

Op, why are you so desperate?

Got rid of yellow swans but left thousands of mosquitoes

God continues to be the ultimate troll

menesheh:
Religion thrives in wishful thinking, false hope, and personal experience which is the worst method of evaluating a postulation or thesis in order to arrive to a more probable conclusion.


There have never been any valid reasons and justifications to hold on to, as an excuse in believing in god.

I will play devil's advocate. I will make the case for despair and ignorance - a potent mix that can lead to remarkable folly.

Will do that better later tho....

However, for instance, in days past when ignorance was much more prevalent and little hope to be seen, was religion justifiable?

Seems most of these folk are religious for the goodies.

It makes them feel special. Eg, going to heaven, reaping, "oh we can't be monkeys because monkeys are stoopid and I'm not", believing this whole universe was special custom created just so an omnipotent being could watch some sort of Big Brother starring you, believing in god because god's morals just happen to be in line with yours (which you've been, ironically, brainwashed into believing are yours, to a certain degree ie) and god will protect you from the big bad, etc etc

Question is simple, is their selfishness excusable?

If it gives them a purpose, are their shenanigans justifiable?

I obviously think NO, but want to hear opinions.

musKeeto:
Weigraf, whats up with Mou?

When dem go sack am?

The missus fell ill. Now she's telling folk the house is haunted

For real....

CSTR2:
Nigeria has the potentials of a truely great nation. The deposit of africa's best and resilient minds.
If there ever was to be an african global superpower, it should be Nigeria.
Unfortunately, we may never see it happen.

Hear hear.

I think it would be wasteful to toss away such potential prematurely.

If he still gives no indication of wanting to work with others by the next elections, and the northern populace supports him with our votes, then there is obviously a critical problem with the union IMO. I think at that point any potential gains would cost too much. They would be outweighed by the negatives of having a non-inclusive union.

That said, do note I think it's good that you raise awareness to these issues whenever you can so they (hopefully) can be addressed. I just stress caution of a kind

CSTR2:
Other appointments still dey is what we have been saying since day one and yet the bigotry is getting worse.
Don't be an ostrich my friend.

Not saying he isn't going to Bleep up - he very well may.

But what to do if indeed he Bleep up?

Hold on. Don't jump the gun. Talk with your vote in 4 years time.

If he does indeed Bleep up and still gets re-elected, then I'll be fully with you shouting Biafra or whatever. Personally, I think you'd be much more justified then.

As it stands sef, if you really want it, I am not really against secession. But weigh it properly - are you absolutely sure you want to secede?

Even I, a northerner, am somewhat confused

It's starting to become too much.... Haba!

Abeg, 9ja, no too vex. Wait small first, other appointments still dey. He doesn't deliver? Vote him out soon enough

KingEbukasBlog:

You're so genuinely foo.lish I actually can't tell if you're trolling or no

musKeeto:
Get creative with missus. To get fit. And, eh, other things..

I do tell her watching those videos together would make excellent work out sessions

She doesn't listen to me

musKeeto:
hahaha

I nearly began to believe in gods and the supernatural......then a natural solution popped up

I was living alone att, and I used to watch some excercise videos to help me stay fit. Usually at night.

One night, as I unbuckled my belt from my sitting position, I noticed that as I stretched my feet they landed just right in that corner.

Voila! A natural explanation, as usual.

Atheism is boring. An explanation featuring winchie would have been far more entertaining.

Don't live alone atm. A missus about. Working out in front of her would look funny.

I do miss those videos. Need to stay fit

FOLYKAZE:
Wiegraf will always prove he is omni-foolish.

The Op base on his believe that weah96 is an atheist, he asked him why he thinks God does not exist.

However, atheism have been defined countless time as the disbelieve in the existence of God. God in this context is not defined which implies that it be could anything and everything God mean.

Christians can claim they believe in God but when we probe further, we know what they mean by God and that is Jehovah.

Do atheists tend to define what they mean by God? No.

Therefore we have to assume they disbelieve in anything or definitions that made up what we call God.

Immediately weah96 asked if the OP meant Jehovah or Allah, this is a missed target that reveal that atheists believe some other God do exist. The evidence is there and already proven. You can eat that.



that doesnt stop plaetton from believing Ra is worthy of worship.

Weah96 is not excluded from this insanity of believing in pantheistic God.




Holy me!!!!

I think you just run like a mad dog to these websites looking for definition of theism while you left your brain in the kennel.

The flaws in this definition of yours are;

- Not all theistic religion hold believe in creator God. Jainism

- Not all God in theistic religion sustain relationship with their creature. Aborisa do not have any relationship with Eledumare.

- The wiki rejection of the narrower sense of theism is the greatest fallacy of the century. This hold that theism as depicted there is monotheism and not theism in the general sense.


That is why I said you need to understand the ABC of each word.



Now look at the statement in red and tell me how polytheism rejects narrower sense of theism.

It is the same dictionary that defines atheism as wickedness and a belief that God do not exist. That you are too stupiid does not mean others dont scrutinize each definition from your so called dictionaries.

And again, do you notice the word 'especially' and specifically'? The two words are used to single out one person or thing over all others. Monotheism is single out and you stupiidly took that to mean theism.

My position holds and I remain firm that since theism depend not on how a God is defined, atheism simply mean rejection of all form God without considering how the God is defined or the form it takes and the type of theism it falls in



Hopefully you didnt know how blind you are to deny divinity of God among those forms of theism.

There is no God either in monotheism, polythiesm, pantheism, deism and panentheism that is not divine or lacks lack divinity attributes. God is not about been personal or impersonal but Divinity.

And stop been silly and dumb.

Theism: Believe in at least one God/god. There is nothing more to this.

Pantheism : It is a belief in god and divinity. Therefore it is samething as theism.

Deism: another belief in god. There is even a believe in creator God here

Both are subset of Theism. Pantheism and deism is a branch and form of theism. Theism in the broadest sense just means the belief in a or multiple god/s, so you could think of deism and pantheism as a form of theism.

Therefore atheism is opposition of theism (believe in God/gods and every form like pantheism and deism attached to it)





Another dumbness from wiegraf. Are you asking me which God because you believe in some God? I might say I hate America. It is fooliahness like you are displaying here to ask me which part of America.

Theism is about believe in God without minding how it is defined or the form it takes and in numbers it come.

Atheist are expected to disbelieve in all forms of God. Not only just Jehovah and Allah.



Theism do not care about how God is defined and what God mean. Everyone could believe in any form or concept of God they chose. It is understandable that there is different meaning and viewpoint to these Gods but all is still under the umbrella of God.

Atheism which oppose theism means all all forms and concept of God should be rejected. And not just Jehovah and Allah.

...ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, I have one final thing I want you to consider. Ladies and gentlemen, this is Chewbacca. Chewbacca is a Wookiee from the planet Kashyyyk. But Chewbacca lives on the planet Endor. Now think about it; that does not make sense!

Why would a Wookiee, an eight-foot tall Wookiee, want to live on Endor, with a bunch of two-foot tall Ewoks? That does not make sense! But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with this case? Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this case! It does not make sense! Look at me. I'm a humble man trying to educate a m.oron, and I'm talkin' about Chewbacca! Does that make sense? Ladies and gentlemen, I am not making any sense! None of this makes sense! And so you have to remember, when you're in that jury room deliberatin' and conjugatin' the Emancipation Proclamation, does it make sense? No! Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, it does not make sense! If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit! Reason rests.

FOLYKAZE:
The question Op asked is why do you think God does not exist? Did he specify any God concept or religion? So why would anyone bring in Jehovah??

Yes, my good genius. And the whole point of the post, in case you missed it, was to demonstrate why it is very much in order to ask which god.

Of course, the point is well lost on you. I'd have better luck trying to explain this to a gibbon.

Unless, of course, you're purposely being dense just so you could inject your nonsensical "atheist" spirituality into this convo

That would be giving you too much credit tho

FOLYKAZE:
And to your silly rants, pantheism or deism is a subset of theism. Only fools which you are claims he disagree theism God but approve deism or pantheism.

The thread is not about Jehovah and Allah but general God/gods. If you cannot deal with that, you can simply move to another thread

You don't even know the basics....


the·ism
ˈTHēˌizəm/
noun
noun: theism

belief in the existence of a god or gods, especially belief in one god as creator of the universe, intervening in it and sustaining a personal relation to his creatures.

Theism

belief in the existence of a god or gods; specifically : belief in the existence of one God viewed as the creative source of the human race and the world who transcends yet is immanent in the world

Theism

wiki: Theism, in the field of comparative religion, is the belief that at least one deity exists.[1] In popular parlance, the term theism often describes the classical conception of God that is found in Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Druze, Sikhism, and Hinduism.

The term theism derives from the Greek theos meaning "god". The term theism was first used by Ralph Cudworth (1617–88).[2] In Cudworth's definition, they are "strictly and properly called Theists, who affirm, that a perfectly conscious understanding being, or mind, existing of itself from eternity, was the cause of all other things".[3]

Atheism is rejection of theism in the broadest sense of theism; i.e. the absence of belief that there is even one deity.[4] Rejection of the narrower sense of theism can take forms such as deism, pantheism, and polytheism. The claim that the existence of any deity is unknown or unknowable is agnosticism.[5][6] The positive assertion of knowledge, either of the existence of gods or the absence of gods, can also be attributed to some theists and some atheists. Put simply, theism and atheism deal with belief, and agnosticism deals with rational claims to asserting knowledge.[6]

Please, replace the vacum in your head with something capable of digesting knowledge, and note the difference.

Theism is effectively the belief in a personal god(s) of some sort

Deism is the belief in a god(s) that essentially doesn't give a f.uck (indeed, it need not even have supernatural attributes)

Pantheism is even sometimes described as some sort of souped up atheism. 'Nuff said.


You say this thread isn't about jehova or yahweh? Oya, abeg, which god

YOU IN A THREAD YOU JUST OPENED:
God is a broad word that mean different thing to different people. It comes with different forms, attributes and concepts. In all these dimensions, God is seen as a divine entity which is worthy of worship either by proxy or directly. But when we look closely, those things that are been called God exist independently either as an idea (Law and Justice) or Natural entities (River, Sun and animals) or both. We found out that much reverence is given to these entities in the part of the world where they are seen as God while on the other end, these entities attracts little or no value.

What is wrong with you?

And you have the gall to claim someone asking for clarification is wrong and irrelevant??

FOLYKAZE:
Pls permit me to cut in here.

The response you have here is completely wrong and it particularly driving the discussion into another subject. The OP asked you to explain why you think God does not exist. He didnt ask you why this particular God does not exist. So I dont see reason why you are bringing Jehovah and Allah brohaha into this. The question is why do you think God does not exist.

Let me elaborate my point with this sample. I could ask a vegetarian why he/she choose not to eat meat. The answer expected from such person is not another rhetoric question like do you mean pork or dog meat or elephant meat. What type of meat I refer to is not a problem but why is it that vegetarian dont eat meat. Just go straight to the answer.

That know, can you pls look away from Allah or Jehovah for now (that is another issue) and tell us why you disbelieve in God?

Surely others have already pointed this out, but....what a silly post

Even you, "atheist" that believes in god(s), cannot define god properly. Today it's lightning, tomorrow it's rivers. You cannot even provide a straight answer as to whether this your god is natural or not. In fact, seems you opened a thread just to clear up your confusion..

The type of vegetarian could very well be an issue. For instance, one could not have a problem with vanilla vegetarians as he could understand their respect for animal life, but could well have a problem with vegans as he finds the notion of abstaining from products like milk and honey - which aren't in any form life - ridiculous.

Same way an atheist may not really have issues with deists, even if he personally disbelieves in the notion, but have a hell of a lot of issues with theists. Especially those that argue there's a skydaddy somewhere that disapproves of your having sex doggystyle. And unless you have cement in your skull instead of grey matter, it should be quite clear that most of us atheists/anti-theists on these boards have an issue with theists of this sort.

The 'god' in question is quite relevant, implying otherwise is silly and disingenuous.

TL:DR; sharrap!!

DeepSight:
You do know that you are still of course entirely wrong. Still quite the antelope if you do not appreciate the functions of thought as enumerated.

That's much better. Thanks

DeepSight:
Good come back and great writing for once. Thumbs up.

SMH

DeepSight:
Naturally. Just as surely as an antelope might have challenges reading Shakespeare.

Didn't say I didn't understand it, I said it's shitte. It fails on a variety of levels, including emotional. For instance, it makes some fairly silly assumptions that disrupt immersion. However, your analogy here does demonstrate something

You see, I'd say the antelope is better off figuring out say Newton and Einstein. I fail to see how Shakespeare would save it from, for example, hunters or disease. On the other hand learning how to make vaccines and bullet proof vests would very clearly do it some good.

Basically, the analogy does show how useless your wishy washy feely dreamy rainbow and butterflies poetry is to the plight of black man. It's nigh on totally worthless, so I do wonder why you persist.

Simple intellectual ma.sturbat1on? OK, I guess. To each his own, obviously. But even more bizarrely, you also seem to be trying to pass it off as something objective. Some sort of 'deep' truth....

lol no

finofaya:
I mostly agree with you. The prayer was just rather emotive.

Then it worked

Rather it worked on an abrahamic tho. You're already a heathen

finofaya:
Yeah. You have to wonder why God is to be thanked for good things, when we can't curse him for the bad. Thanking him in that fashion means some of his actions are more praiseworthy than others.

But that your prayer sha.

accident takes place, 20 people in car. you hear 19 people survived, you start to pray the one person that survived was your loved one.

you have effectively prayed to god to kill 19 people. retroactively? maybe, but that is the intent

if you're atheist/naturalist it comes down to luck and natures capriciousness. there is no agency behind disasters. not so if you believe in omni~sky-daddy. sky-daddy is behind everything in this scenario, it is all his will.

so what happens when people thank god for blessing their lives in this grand competition for resources that is life on this rock, and they do this while knowing some kid is dying due to nutritional problems at this very moment? innocuous as it may seem, yes, they are effectively thanking god for the death of the kid. this is even more blatant when they demonize the competition; Mr/faction x is aided by the devil and after you so it's fine to wish for their suffering at your expense. this way they can justify their actions and soothe their conscience

regardless, they at the very least complicit in their gods actions, and supporting it tacitly (see 'moderate' muslims and how they support 'extremists' for a somewhat similar if more obvious example. except this is even worse due to omnixx of the agent behind the actions)

it is supposed to be dark, to force them to think. it is supposed to guilt them into acknowledging they worship a sociopath

dont worry. prayers and the sociopath dont actually exist or work. and if they did, the socio was going to kill those children anyway. even some sheeple have been meekly begging him to stop for a while now, he doesn't seem to care, no reason to believe my prayer changed anything

if yahweh existed, you know whod be doing it right? the devil and his supporters...

finofaya:
This is dark...

Stark even

Not to different to say thanking god for saving your life from that one disaster whilst letting other parties involved die horrible, horrible deaths

But god is kind and merciful

KingEbukasBlog:
Read the story proper , the donkey was made to talk in order to fulfill a purpose . God would have done it ( conveyed the message) differently but :

1 Corinthians 1:27

.

You are currently making fun of a talking donkey , justified the quoted verse . Actually , a talking donkey is a mystical event because its "unnatural "( the supernatural defied the natural ). So God just made use of His power

And, as usual, the point is utterly lost on you

Doubt crayons would help so kudos

Uyi, again please take note. Yes, you sound even more ridiculous than this genius, even if only because his excuse is raw stoopidity.

What's yours? You want to believe in god by force??

KingEbukasBlog:
Its "folly" because you an atheist - to you the bible is full of myths and the talking donkey story was written in the bible- and I said the unicorn is mythical ... big deal ?

You think like a child

Says the person that believes in talking donkeys

KingEbukasBlog:
Unicorns are mythical or do you have fossil evidences ?

The donkey spoke for a reason ...

You have zero knowledge of the bible so its understandable

Uyi, can you spot the remarkable folly?

Well, actually, you come across as even more ridiculous....

I pray to almighty Yahweh, the beginning and the end, whom can do and undo, etc, to let a child die due to nutrional problems (eg no food, terrible diet, etc) it had no way of preventing, every 10 seconds for the next month

Who says Yahweh isn't all powerful?

DeepSight:
^^^ Please read it thoroughly.

These sorts of things are not open to robots.

Please stop being so shallow. I know you are a profound man. Wake up and be yourself.

Rather confused as to how that write up qualifies as 'deep'

I see similar stuff fairly frequently, just before I flush, sending it where it belongs

menesheh:
Thanks. Maybe during posting process. Point it out, i will correct the missing part

Thank you for posting it. I enjoy Oga Jerry's work even if I don't always agree (mostly over details tho)

Yes, I often make such mistakes as well, especially by leaving captions in

I think the biggest problem is that the section 'living with uncertainty' seems to jump from discussing said 'uncertainty' to discussing the universality and objectivity of science. Precisely in this bit

Living with uncertainty is hard for many people, and is oIndia, I can discuss my work with my colleagues without any cultural awkwardness or misunderstandings.

Is there something missing?

Where's the rest?

Also, some bits seem to be missing. Will point them out later