₦airaland Forum

Ray McBlue: I don't understand how some folks could equate Atheism with homosexualism, for they are nothing alike. The only common ground they share is that they both stand as outsiders, nothing more.

Atheism is skepticism of god(s) existence which in all logical aspect, quite justified as god is imaginary in the real world. Also, Note that Religion is man-made, as man started out believing in nothing.

So tell me, what is it that qualified atheism to be lumped with homosexualism...Cuz I don't see it. I just don't.

ray: I don't see myself as a minority. I don't feel like I must justify my stand to a man-made concept (religion) as to ally myself with something I detest (homosexualism).

ray: Maybe, I'm being subjective, but then again, morality as subjectively as it gets, is not blind.

onetrack: Depends on what you mean by positive and who perceives it as such.

Religion enhances a king/dictator's ability to keep himself in power by convincing people that he is there by the grace of god.
Religion enhances a soldier's ability to charge off into battle knowing that death means a trip to 'heaven'
Religion enhances a terrorist's ability to set off a bomb strapped to himself and thereby be with many virgins.
Religion enhances a person's ability to convince people to give them free money by promising them a path to heaven that they cannot even prove exists.

So as you see religion enhances many activities deemed positive.

aManFromMars: Been ill too. Consistent flu. The thing just tire me.. 8 more months here and I don vamoose... can't wait...

Reyginus: You didn't answer the question. What you said is, homosexuality is not wrong because it is wrong persecuting it. That answers nothing.

aManFromMars: I understand, but sometimes jokes are mere misrepresentations of reality.. Waiting for the proper answer...

Hope say body gbam.

F00028: the fact that all homosexuals owe their very existence to heterosexual sex alone should tell you something...

Reyginus: Rubbish experiment! But wiegraf, do you think that homosexuality can be justified logically?

Mr anony: I never said anything about physics, I only showed you a direct causal link between the matterial and the non-matterial

Uyi Iredia: ^^^Mr anony don't bother answering this. An affirmative reply would be nonsense to him. That said, how do YoU suppose matter uses non-material information as a tool. In fact, what definition of information are your working with, Shannon's perhaps ? Gitt's is unlikey.

aManFromMars: @wei: any hope? I'm beginning to consider your genetics theory. Is being dumb engrained in the genes of the black man? Are black intellectuals an anomaly?
Maybe there was a balance at first, and the dumb people always had power and money. Worth thinking about when you consider the kind of politics and politicians native to our society...

Mr anony: That is where you are wrong. To say that non-material information is a tool of matter is to presuppose intent(a non-matterial attribute) You can't assume the initial point in order to make your case.

Mr anony: 2. You have admitted that non-matter can and does effect matter

aManFromMars: I have enough sadness in my life as it is.

Ray McBlue: Why do people normally frown on the subject? Ask yourself that.

Ray McBlue: Being an atheist doesn't mean you don't have to make moral choices.

Ray McBlue: You are a man first, before anything else, and as a man how do your brain process the idea of an sexual intercourse between two people of the same gender? What will be your initial sentiment?

Ray McBlue: I'm a free thinker and all that, no religious sentiments whatsoever. But I still find it hard to stomach that a man can hump a fellow man and enjoy it??

Is Homosexualism morally right? I don't think so.

Kay 17: 2. It is lame for both (theists and atheists) to seek out moral basis from Nature! For atheists, it is implicitly accepting some form of external overarching purpose in Nature which governs man. It is a bad idea to behave as a plant.

Mr anony: Lol, so according to you I have neither shown nor not shown a direct causal link between the immaterial and the material. You are being incoherent here please explain yourself.

Let me recap by simplifying the terms for you.

1. Is information non-matter= Yes
2. Is the brain matter = Yes
3. Does information effect brain size = Yes
4. Conclusion: Non-matter causes an effect on matter

Which of numbers 1-4 do you disagree with?

common sense: 1. Can information manifest without matter = NO
2. Is information non-matter= Yes
3. Is the brain matter = Yes
4. Does information effect brain size = In as sense, yes...however
5. Could the information have been generated without matter = NO
6. Conclusion: Matter effects matter, using non-matter (information) as a tool

huffington post: Nigerian Student Uses Magnets To 'Prove' Gay Marriage Is Wrong


A student in Nigeria claims he has scientific proof that same-sex marriage is wrong.

The so-called discovery was made by Chibuihem Amalaha, a postgraduate student at the University of Lagos who told Nigeria's This Day Live that same-sex marriage is "eating deep into the fabric of our human nature all over the world." Amalaha said he conducted "experiments" in physics, chemistry, biology and mathematics to test his theory. Ultimately, he deduced that the repellence of two similar entities (magnets, for instance) proves that same-sex marriage is wrong.

In a series of befuddling explanations, Amalaha cited magnets, electrolysis, animal mating and simple addition as rationale for why gay relationships just aren't right. His entire thesis boils down to the fact that "like" does not attract "like."

Via This Day Live:

this day:
A bar magnet is a horizontal magnet that has the North Pole and the South Pole and when you bring two bar magnets and you bring the North Pole together you find that the two North Poles will not attract. They will repel, that is, they will push away themselves showing that a man should not attract a man. If you bring two South Poles together you find that the two South Poles will not attract indicating that same sex marriage should not hold. A female should not attract a female as South Pole of a magnet does not attract the South Pole of a magnet. But, when you bring a North Pole of a magnet and a South Pole of a magnet they will attract because they are not the same, indicating that a man will attract a woman because of the way nature has made a female.

Amalaha hopes to win a Nobel Prize someday for his work.

Homosexuality is criminalized in Nigeria. Human Rights Watch notes the country's federal criminal code carries a 14-year punishment on consensual gay relationships. In states within the nation where Sharia law is enacted, gay relations are punishable by death.

Luiz DeBarros, of gay-centric blog Mamba Online, critiqued the coverage of Amalaha's "high-school standard experiments" by This Day Live as "uncritical and uninformed," saying it will likely add to homophobia in the region.

Last year, Nigeria passed an anti-gay marriage bill, despite international outcry against it. This legislation not only targets same-sex marriages, but also anyone who aids or abets gay couples as well as any couple displaying a "public show" of affection.

wiki: Non-overlapping magisteria (NOMA) is the view advocated by Stephen Jay Gould that science and religion each have "a legitimate magisterium, or domain of teaching authority," and these two domains do not overlap.[1] He suggests, with examples, that "NOMA enjoys strong and fully explicit support, even from the primary cultural stereotypes of hard-line traditionalism" and that it is "a sound position of general consensus, established by long struggle among people of goodwill in both magisteria."[2] Despite this there continues to be disagreement over where the boundaries between the two magisteria should be.[3]

okeyxyz: All disorders/diseases are "ubiquitous in nature", That doesn't make them the natural(nature-designed) course of biological or mental development. They are Malfunctions of the biological/mental systems.

okeyxyz: But necrophilia, pedophalia, bestiality, etc and -of course - homo.se.xuality are se.xual orientations. You disagree??

googlod: sex·u·al or·i·en·ta·tion
Noun
A person's sexual identity in relation to the gender to which they are attracted; the fact of being heterosexual, homosexual, or bisexual.

Localamos: Please see en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraphilia

wiki: Homosexuality was at one time discussed as a sexual deviation.[16] Sigmund Freud and subsequent psychoanalytic thinkers considered homosexuality and paraphilias to result from psychosexual regression to an infantile state.[17]

By the mid-20th century, mental health practitioners began formalizing "deviant sexuality" classifications into categories. Originally coded as 000-x63, homosexuality was the top of the classification list (Code 302.0) until the American Psychiatric Association removed homosexuality from the DSM in 1973. Martin Kafka writes, "Sexual disorders once considered paraphilias (e.g., homosexuality) are now regarded as variants of normal sexuality."[18]

A 2012 literature study by James Cantor, clinical psychologist, comparing homosexuality with paraphilias found that homosexuality was sufficiently dissimilar from the paraphilias as to be considered an unrelated construct.[19][20]

wiki: No consensus has been found for any precise border between unusual personal sexual tastes and paraphilic ones. There is debate over which, if any, of the paraphilias should be listed in diagnostic manuals, such as the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) or the International Classification of Diseases.

Localamos: And like I said earlier, I do not reserve the right to criticize or condemn anyone based on their se.xual orientations. Nonetheless, I subscribe to the one-man-one-woman approach. And I believe a healthier parent-child relationship will help a child's orientation.

wiki: A number of studies have examined whether the children of lesbian and gay parents are themselves more likely to identify as lesbian and gay. In a 2001 review of 21 studies, Judith Stacey and Timothy Biblarz found that researchers frequently downplay findings indicating difference regarding children's gender, sexual preferences and behavior, suggesting that an environment of heterosexism has hampered scientific inquiry in the area. Their findings indicate that the children with lesbian or gay parents appear less traditionally gender-typed and are more likely to be open to homoerotic relationships, which may be partly due to genetic or family socialization processes or "contextual effects," even though children raised by same-sex couples are not more likely to self-identify as bisexual, lesbian, or gay and most of them identify as heterosexual.[35] According to US Census, 80% of the children being raised by same-sex couples in US are their biological children.[36] When it comes to family socialization processes and "contextual effects," Stacey and Biblarz point out that children with such parents are disproportionately more likely to grow up in relatively more tolerant school, neighborhood, and social contexts, which are less heterosexist.[35]


A 2005 review by Charlotte J. Patterson for the American Psychological Association found that the available data did not suggest higher rates of homosexuality among the children of lesbian or gay parents.[37] Herek's 2006 review describes the available data on the point as limited.[7] Stacey and Biblarz and Herek stress that the sexual orientation of children is of limited relevance to discussions of parental fitness or policies based on the same. In a 2010 review comparing single-father families with other family types, Stacey and Biblarz state, "We know very little yet about how parents influence the development of their children's sexual identities or how these intersect with gender."[8]

Localamos: forgive me if this makes you touchy, But this is my position.

Localamos: Black men are ra.pists

Localamos: Natural inter.course is between a man and a woman. Any variance from that is paraphalia.

googlord: par·a·pher·na·lia
/ˌparəfə(r)ˈnālyə/
Noun

Miscellaneous articles, esp. the equipment needed for a particular activity.
Trappings associated with a particular institution or activity that are regarded as superfluous.

Synonyms
equipment - outfit

Localamos: Inasmuch as I would not be judgemental against people with alternative orientations, my definition of a natural affinity and se.xual Congress is derived from my perceptions from the Bible. Any variation from one-man-one-woman conjugal relations, as specified in the Bible, is paraphalia.

No prejudice.

Mr anony: A slave owner has the right to do as He pleases with what belongs to Him, eg, his slaves. He is not unfair at all.

Localamos: necrophilia, pedophalia and -of course - homo.se.xuality

aManFromMars: So you agree that any human institution, no matter how noble it's purpose, could and will be abused?

obadiah777: but you do err my belligerent monsieur wiegraf. light always wins over darkness. in fact i believe i have a biblical verse for you

job 20 vs 5 That the triumphing of the wicked is short, and the joy of the hypocrite but for a moment?

obadiah777: there is a new sheriff in town and i like to make sure all my constituents ( different doctrines )are represented on the federal level (FP). speaking of Plaettons old material, I am looking for new material with not many page counts. many page counts automatically suppresses participation on the federal ( FP ) level because people feel they were not involved in casting their votes ( making posts ) from the beginning so it is not as endearing as a fresh thread ( new candidate )