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Reyginus: Happy new year everyone

Same brah

I don't believe in proselytizing, not saying anyone is suggesting that. Raising awareness is necessary though. You could say aim for the stars and land on a mountain, in which case attempt proselytizing but gain only education/awareness, but that's still distasteful. Religion is free, etc.

So, assuming the goal is raising awareness/education, I don't think we need to remain here to achieve that, but I may be wrong.

Mr_Anony: Lol, so acknowledging God or the mere mention of Him in a non-mocking way is now equivalent to brainwashing abi? Your fanaticism is growing steadily

.....about satanism, what I said in that thread is true. Even satanists themselves openly embrace being evil. You have no point.

You say this nonsense then say I have no point? You imb.ecile

Would you have a satanist read his paper out to your kids?

Mr_Anony: Lol, you don't know what it is, you don't care what it is but you are sure that I am a hypocrite to what you know nothing about......very interesting indeed.

You make me laugh. You start by admitting your ignorance and end with condemning what you are ignorant about. Ever heard of blind fanaticism?

More stoopid. Slowly you eediot, the nature of xtianity matters not.... Again, digest it slowly... all that matters is you suggest other ideologies be suppressed and yours supported... I suppose yours is the only 'true' one, yes? Do you know what a fanatic is?

Dohohohohoho

dekung: Like I said, ignore the guy. Calling you Stalin junior does not does not make you one does it? That's his own interpretation, however flawed, of the call you made. The best way to fight back is by showing him he is wrong and not by telling him.

Heh heh, no. You could ignore him, but no such thing as "showing him he is wrong", that's a total waste of time. There's no turning back for him. Best to gut him and enjoy it

tobechi20: dat my point, atheist keep castigatin religon for world problem. Religon caused slavery,bokoharam,violence war etc.

They forget that religon is a tool. Could be used for gud and evil dependin on intention of d user.

Religon is on same page as science.so ATHEIST TAKE NOTE

Science doesn't promise anyone 70 virgins. They may be tools, but very different. One is just a tool, the other, not so. It comes packed with dogma.

With science, you the user are in control, not so for many with religion

Mr_Anony: Lol, interesting. Please which part of the concept of separation of church and state involves silencing a 6 year old and dictating to her how she ought to eulogize her own grandfather?
There is a huge difference between "separation of church and state" and "restricting freedom to express one's religion"

It also means certain half wits not be allowed to abuse the system in order to spread their own insidious agenda.

Public school is officially hands off any and all religions, they cannot endorse any, simple. Her publicly acknowledging god like that creates issues, it makes them look like they officially accept her religion as some sort of 'truth'. What next, they start teaching the others how to achieve a personal relationship with christ? Xtians are not the only ones on the planet, did you notice that? I wouldn't want my kids receiving any silly brain washing, no child should. Simple.

Or would you prefer a satanism be endorsed, we might get another tirade like this one:

www.nairaland.com/1129888/rapture/2

Let's see, what you think about satanism

anony: You are a hypocrite. But then I don't blame you, hypocrisy and lies are allowed by your vile religion as long as they bring you pleasure.
You are evil and there is nothing good in you. You had better repent and come to the God of Love because I promise you, your master will not be merciful to you when you meet him.

On a side note, this coming from someone who condones the actions of yahweh is rather rich. Frankly, it's mind boggling

anony: There is no love in satanism, neither is there brotherhood nor family. It is all about the strong preying upon the weak and you know it. The path you have chosen is vile.

You want xtian schooling? Find a private school

Mr_Anony: Lol, so you don't know what it means to imitate Christ yet you are sure that it is an ideology that infringes on your rights. You are being willfully ignorant my friend. Go learn what it means to imitate Christ first then come back and tell us exactly how it suppresses any ideology and infringes on your rights.

I don't care AT ALL what it means, are you this dense? Not at all. Save the babies or burn them. Where do I state it would suppress other ideologies?

All I know is that you, hypocrite, suggest repressing other ideologies in favor of your own. Do you understand now? Or perhaps you are somehow exempt from the very crime you say lb would perpetrate?

Mr_Anony: Lol, sometimes I just shake my head.

The bolded is the one that worries me more. . . . . .It keeps reminding me of the return of atheist regimes and how they killed people in the name of no-religion.

Killed people in the name of no religion?

Affiliated: Good luck accepted. And good luck with your beliefs too

No, no. Don't have those, not like you do. But I'll accept the luck as well

Heh
Good luck

Logicboy03: I dont believe in murder. The right thing to do would be to inform people in the German govt or to stifle Hitler's election plans before he becomes the Fuhrer

This is the right thing to do, unquestionably


But I'd probably kill him. At least incapacitate him

Affiliated: Yes

You cannot infer that from the double slit experiment, considering uncertainty. At the very most, hidden dimensions or tuning, etc.

You are welcome to your beliefs though.

Affiliated: Well in that sense, the sun isn't alive. However, I like to use a broader definition of life. All energy is alive

You believe energy is conscious?

Happi New Year NL!!!

No fighting this yearz, yez?!

*Kails*:
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#itsofficial!!



always on point!!

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Are you sure?

https://www.nairaland.com/1141788/questions-anony-souls/5#13610496

Affiliated: That's a pretty big absolute statement to make. On what basis do you state this fact so conclusively?

Dictionary definition of life

https://www.google.com.ng/search?q=life+definition&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

-The condition that distinguishes animals and plants from inorganic matter, including the capacity for growth, reproduction, functional...
-Living things and their activity: "some sort of life existed on Mars".

Light isn't alive. The sun etc. @atheist's answer may suffice actually. If you classify the sun as alive then virtually everything would be alive, no? Energy interacting with energy.

Stalwert: where are these guys running to? it must have occur to them that their argument are not cogent indeed!

Well then, could you raise a cogent argument of your own then, hmmm?

As for the assignment, he wants me to read a thread with @ola in it. Ha ha, no. I wouldn't ask that of anybody, really..

Affiliated: OK. Life is random then.

That is correct

Affiliated: Can you expantiate? What's random?

Energy. Uncertainty principle, etc

Affiliated: If you actually read it, you'll see light certainly acts conscious.

It's just random. Truly, something from nothing random

Affiliated: I could have sworn I read that exact same post from either billyonaire or greatgenius. About the consciousness of light, check the double slit experiment.

What about it?

advocate666: plants?

In my opinion, yes, plants have awareness. All things do, but in varying quantities. When a plant is destroyed, I can tell you that it is aware of the event in its own "plant way". It perceives an event that
is entropic to the direction of its life force, thus making it a negative event in terms of consciousness. The same goes for say a one celled
microorganism being consumed by say, a paramecium. It experiences something negative as it's integrity as a physical lifeform comes to an end. That's not to say it is thinking about any of
this as it happens. We live in a reality where life feeds on life, and that continues until you learn all the lessons associated with that kind of environment.

advocate666: so sardines and algae have souls?

Yes, sardines and algae have souls. ECCLESIASTES 3 VS 21 Who knows if the spirit of man rises upward and if the spirit of the animal goes down into the earth?

Did you just find a bottle like those bush men from "gods must be crazy"?


Jokes aside science is a tool. Tool users are the problem, not the tools. And apologize or get off the internet, you don't deserve it

advocate666: What do you mean?

You are funny. There is no consciousness without Soul. Brain is simply a physical organ that controls bodily activities including registering memory data to mind. Soul animates all living things, without which there is no life. Soul of a Brain dead person bilocates from the body and almost always hovers above the body awaiting the next signal by the cosmic mind.


Therefore no soul = no life

advocate666: How can you say that light isn't life? There are different life forms. Life is just energy. Light has energy and mass. Light even travels and can be used to transport data at mind-blowing speed.
What do you call life? Is the sun alive? If it is not alive, why do 99.99% of living things on this planet need it to live? Can a dead matter give and sustain life?
If light can carry electronic data (eg lasers), it can also carry some form of life you do not yet know about. Also note that light is already the means of transfering energy, thus life, to plants during photosynthesis.

Careful, if this indeed is a troll it may be too good

Enigma: One more thing and I'll make it loud just in case it will help in getting the point across to those sadly slower to assimilate things.

Jefferson who originated the phrase "separation of Church and State" must have had a different idea of what it means compared to what many mumus shouting the phrase nowadays use it to mean.


For example: as previously posted, Jefferson attended a church service on government property two days after coining the phrase "separation of Church and State"; not only that he continued to allow church services to be held on government property and himself to attend those church services.

Nowadays the evangelical/militant atheist mumus will shout at him "hey, you can't do that, 'separation of church and state'!"

Jefferson attended church, so what? He also edited the bible, should you adopt that version as well?. Would you also like xtianity declared as usa's official religion? Tax payers back in those days may have had no problems with his using government property for religious purposes but in this day and age assuming that is silly.

Separation of church and state is also a principle, one I would think they are proud of. Like 'inalienable freedoms' or however jefferson put it. Like for instance, honesty. Lying is not a crime but it is not encouraged, yes?

In this case though, that's by the way, it's open and shut. Public organizations cannot endorse any religion for very good reasons. That is all

Enigma: Strictly speaking "separation of church and state" is not a legal concept. Further, the concept, though known in American "politics" (for want of a better word presently) is open to different interpretations.

From a legal point of view, what the authorities are not allowed to do is divided into the two broad categories: (a) do not establish a religion and (b) do not interfere with free exercise of religion.

This is far far far removed from "Congress cannot pass any law with respect to religion"

I would think this would clearly mean do not support any religion, no?

The verse does not say that unless we physically see God that we won't know Him rather it says that our knowledge of God to day is like blurry vision but the time will come when our vision will be made clear and we will know God fully. Notice that vision/seeing is being used as a simile for knowing.

mazaje: Those of you that are derailing the thread should pls keep off. . .Why wuna wan spoil the show na?. . .Make wuna no vex abeg. . .

Too slow. Get to the main dish. There's only so much I can take while waiting. Where's the blood?

Affiliated: Alas the fo.ol hath said the cosmos was specially custom built for us. Take it in good faith that I know and understand the bible more than you

*smh*

Simply put, you're a spiritual midget, that's why you cant understand something so simple...

It's really sad. I do, do feel sorry for folk without the holy sp.irit. You have open up and let him in, in all ways, f.ool. You have to form a special relationship with him

I'll pray for you

Affiliated: Are you shitting me? One funny part of the bible is when God created the Sun and Moon and stars to give light upon the earth. Under the best conditions, only 6,000 stars out of an approximate 70,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 [There are far more than this] are visible to the naked eye. I wonder who all the other stars are giving light to. Its stupid statements like this that will later make man believe such nonsense like the cosmos was specially custom built just for us.
http://articles.cnn.com/2003-07-22/tech/stars.survey_1_sextillion-big-number-universe?_s=PM:TECH

I hope you're just kidding though because it would be sad if you aren't

Really? How could one be so wrong? You've read the bible, but have you READ the bible? Clearly not, else you'd know it was not wrong.

Alas, the fo.ol hath said...

Martian: No!! It was specially custom "created" for us Martians. We rebelled against the tyrant and he sent a flood to destroy us and then fire to roast the whole planet and that's why it looks all dry and crusty today. Luckily some us were able to escape to this planet and blend in with his new "special" creations,humans.

Wow. Another cuckoo. Last I checked your treasured science claimed that mars may have been capable of supporting life at some point in time, but have you been there to see for yourself?! And when in atheist mode you'll probably claim you don't use blind faith, imagine...

You're clearly deluded. Martians? Are they green? Evidence where? Talking snakes and fires allegedly told some ancient ignorant goatmen otherwise so you must be wrong. Either ways, god redesigned it when he made us his new favorites.

Such folly