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KingEbukasBlog:
Nice thread

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Tellemall:
I don't know why, but I think you, winner01, are going to school these guys. They simply don't want to understand you. It's not like they don't know anything you're telling them. They must've fought every statement you make concerning God ten times over and are looking for the next person to say it.

Most of these Nigerian atheists got tired of Christianity, got frustrated easily and now the end result is for all to see. That is their trauma.

Exactly, they are frustrated.

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Make new friends and keep in touch with old friends. Love them all, for friendship is ordained by God.

God bless you richly today and always.

What is the meaning of life? How can purpose, fulfillment, and satisfaction in life be found? How can something of lasting significance be achieved? So many people have never stopped to consider these important questions. They look back years later and wonder why their relationships have fallen apart and why they feel so empty, even though they may have achieved what they set out to accomplish. An athlete who had reached the pinnacle of his sport was once asked what he wished someone would have told him when he first started playing his sport. He replied, “I wish that someone would have told me that when you reach the top, there's nothing there.” Many goals reveal their emptiness only after years have been wasted in their pursuit.


In our humanistic culture, people pursue many things, thinking that in them they will find meaning. Some of these pursuits include business success, wealth, good relationships, sex, entertainment, and doing good to others. People have testified that while they achieved their goals of wealth, relationships, and pleasure, there was still a deep void inside, a feeling of emptiness that nothing seemed to fill.

The author of the biblical book of Ecclesiastes describes this feeling when he says, “Meaningless! Meaningless! ...Utterly meaningless! Everything is meaningless” (Ecclesiastes 1:2). King Solomon, the writer of Ecclesiastes, had wealth beyond measure, wisdom beyond any man of his time or ours, hundreds of women, palaces and gardens that were the envy of kingdoms, the best food and wine, and every form of entertainment available. He said at one point that anything his heart wanted, he pursued. And yet he summed up “life under the sun”—life lived as though all there is to life is what we can see with our eyes and experience with our senses—is meaningless. Why is there such a void? Because God created us for something beyond what we can experience in the here-and-now. Solomon said of God, “He has also set eternity in the hearts of men...” (Ecclesiastes 3:11). In our hearts we are aware that the “here-and-now” is not all that there is.

In Genesis, the first book of the Bible, we find that God created mankind in His image (Genesis 1:26). This means that we are more like God than we are like anything else (any other life form).
We also find that before mankind fell into sin and the curse of sin came upon the earth, the following things were true:
1) God made man a social creature (Genesis 2:18-25);
2) God gave man work (Genesis 2:15);
3) God had fellowship with man (Genesis 3:; and
4) God gave man dominion over the earth (Genesis 1:26).

What is the significance of these things? God intended for each of these to add to our fulfillment in life, but all of these (especially man's fellowship with God) were adversely affected by man's fall into sin and the resulting curse upon the earth (Genesis 3).

In Revelation, the last book of the Bible, God reveals that He will destroy this present earth and heavens and usher in the eternal state by creating a new heaven and a new earth. At that time, He will restore full fellowship with redeemed mankind, while the unredeemed will have been judged unworthy and cast into the lake of fire (Revelation 20:11-15). The curse of sin will be done away with; there will be no more sin, sorrow, sickness, death, or pain (Revelation 21:4). God will dwell with them, and they shall be His sons (Revelation 21:7). Thus, we come full circle: God created us to have fellowship with Him, man sinned, breaking that fellowship, God restores that fellowship fully in the eternal state. To go through life achieving everything only to die separated from God for eternity would be worse than futile! But God has made a way to not only make eternal bliss possible (Luke 23:43) but also life on earth satisfying and meaningful. How is this eternal bliss and “heaven on earth” obtained?



Meaning of life restored through Jesus Christ

Real meaning in life, both now and in eternity, is found in the restoration of the relationship with God that was lost with Adam and Eve's fall into sin. That relationship with God is only possible through His Son, Jesus Christ (Acts 4:12; John 1:12; 14:6). Eternal life is gained when we repent of our sin (no longer want to continue in it) and Christ changes us, making of us new creations, and we rely on Jesus Christ as Savior.

Real meaning in life is not found only in accepting Jesus as Savior, as wonderful as that is. Rather, real meaning in life is when one begins to follow Christ as His disciple, learning of Him, spending time with Him in His Word, communing with Him in prayer, and in walking with Him in obedience to His commands. If you are not a Christian (or perhaps a new believer), you might be saying to yourself, “That does not sound very exciting or fulfilling to me!” But Jesus made the following statements:

“Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy and my burden is light” (Matthew 11:28-30). “I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full” (John 10:10b). “If anyone would come after me, he must deny himself and take up his cross and follow me. For whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for me will find it” (Matthew 16:24-25). “Delight yourself in the LORD and he will give you the desires of your heart” (Psalm 37:4).

What all of these verses are saying is that we have a choice. We can continue to seek to guide our own lives, which results in emptiness, or we can choose to pursue God and His will for our lives with a whole heart, which will result in living life to the full, having the desires of our hearts met, and finding contentment and satisfaction. This is so because our Creator loves us and desires the best for us (not necessarily the easiest life, but the most fulfilling).

The Christian life can be compared to the choice of whether to purchase the expensive seats at a sporting event that are close to the action, or pay less and watch the game from a distance. Watching God work “from the front row” is what we should choose but, sadly, is not what most people choose. Watching God work firsthand is for whole-hearted disciples of Christ who have truly stopped pursuing their own desires to pursue instead God's purposes. They have paid the price (complete surrender to Christ and His will); they are experiencing life to its fullest; and they can face themselves, their fellow man, and their Maker with no regrets. Have you paid the price? Are you willing to? If so, you will not hunger after meaning or purpose again.




source; http://www.gotquestions.org/meaning-of-life.html

dalaman:
I know which truth? You haven't been able to convince your other fellow christians that belong to other sects about what you believe in yet you are still talking about truth. By the way which is the church of God and where is it located? In which part of Nigeria is it located? Who are it's members and what are their doctrines? Keep deceiving yourself .

Stop digressing. The church of God is the Church of God. As long as you teach from scriptures and not forged extrabiblical references.

Why would anyone go through the pain of writing the marian apparition, the secet of the saints, the book of mormon etc. There really is something about christianity that evil people sought to suppress.

When you can give 3 examples each of people who died and saw joseph smith and mary caring for God in heaven respectively out of the billions of humans that have lived. Then ill take you seriously.

dalaman:
Which is the true christian sect or denomination? Is it the Catholic Church? Is it the white garment church? Is it the seven days adventist? Is it the word of faith prosperity church? Is it your own local church? Which is the true church care to name it?

Why don't you allow this intelligent designer to provide evidence for people by it self? Why are you doing its work for it. I thought you claim he is able to do all things? You were asking for video evidence. Pls am you provide video evidence of this your intelligent designer designing the earth?

The true church is the church of God. You are asking me about religion, i dont do religion.

I do not provide evidence for you or anyone, I did not invite you to this thread, Your desperation brought you here.

Give just 3 videos of people who saw joseph smith and mary caring for God. Either living or dead. Just 3 each.

Deduct 6 from the number of humans that have ever lived, you got a whole lotta sample frame man.

You know the truth. Now i know why some people are called hardened criminals.

dalaman:
I don't need to post videos of people seeing Allah, Mohammed or Buddha. Their religious theology might not give them room for that. Islam for example does not allow muslims to claim to have gone to heaven and met with Allah as such you can't see a muslim making that claim.

All IIA saying is that there are videos of different christians from various sects each claiming to have gone to heaven and seeing exactly what agrees with what their sect is teaching them. Mormons claim to go to heaven and meet Joseph Smith. Catholic priest coma to go to heaven to met Jesus and Mary. Deeper life lady climes she went to heaven and hell and saw the pope in the. Different christians all describing heaven very differently and each claming that Jesus gave them different messages. The bottom line is that they are lying. They just imagined things and that all. What difference does a video make? After all we have different videos of televangelist performing miracles until they were later exposed to be fake people. A person can sit down and make a video of himself talking about his visit to heaven. What difference does it make?

Accepted. We know you think hundreds of thousands of atheists, muslims, evolutionists e.t.c all sat down to fake their stories.

Just a simple task:
Give 3 videos of mormons who claimed they died and saw joseph smith with Jesus
Give 3 videos of catholics who claimed they died and saw mary and the pope in heaven.


I can post 100 videos of people Christians, muslims, atheists, agnostics, buddhists, taoists, scientists etc who claim they died and saw hell and saw Jesus in heaven.

dalaman:
I don't know how to post videos on YouTube with my phone.

So much for a self-acclaimed intellectual . Well, The link alone will do. So get to work.

KingEbukasBlog:
This is so true . There are no videos because everyone would recognise them and the pathetic lies . There are videos of former atheists telling stories of their transformation and everyone who knows them will attest to that .

The difference is clear

I will open a thread on the topic of those who die and go to heaven. I actually could not find a single video on youtube of a muslim claiming to see mohammed or any other religious founder in heaven, except a muslim boy who claimed to see mohammed in heaven and Jesus in hell>betraying their own logic that both were prophets> THe boy later confessed that he was asked to frame up a story. Muslims, atheist e.t.c all see Jesus in their hundreds and these people still deny? .. These guys are criminals.

dalaman:
Do I need to waste my time posting videos here? Am using a phone. Just go to youtube and type mormon lady goes to heaven . Also type catholic priest goes to heaven. Type seven day adventist goes to heaven. You'll see so many results . Do it and post the videos here.

God can give anybody a second chance, seventhday adventist, mormon, atheist, anyone. Im more interested in their stories.

Post the videos of people who saw mohammed, buddha, zeus in heaven and also those who saw mary caring for God. If you use a fone, so what? How far is google from your fone?

Why are you so hardened?

Ranchhoddas:
I just realized that I have been wasting my time an ostrich. Go sleep. Tomorrow na church.

You got busted, didnt yhu?

dalaman:
So here are the endless confusing stories of people that claimed to have gone to heaven with very different description and tales of heaven. Each agreeing and aligning with their church doctrines.

1) Catholic priest aimed he want to heaven, purgatory and hell. In heaven he meet Jesus and Mary sitting on the throne.
http://www.experienceproject.com/stories/Am-Christian-(roman-Catholic)/1587294

2) This deeper life woman claimed she also went to heaven and saw things that agreed with the deeper life Church. Her story is so pathetic that even the founder of the deeper life Church pastor Kumuyi had to disavow her claims. What she said is completely different from what the Catholic priest saw.

http://eternal-destinations..com.ng/2013/12/linda-ngaujah-revelation-of-heaven-and.html?m=1

3) This mormon lady claims to have visited heaven. She say things that agreed with the Mormon church. Joseph Smith she claims is in heaven.

http://archive.sltrib.com/story.php?ref=/lds/ci_15227681

He story th and description of heave and what shw claimed she saw is completely different from the other 2 I just posted. I can post like 20 but I don't have the time.

All what this shows is that people can sit down imagine things and write them down to promote what ever course they have in mind and nothing else. People tell lies all the time to promote their religion. After all the people that wrote the bible, Koran and the Hindu Verdes were all telling lies.

Please can people go to the sites he posted. Especially the first and last one.

And please ask him to post 20 like he earlier said if they exist .

You dont have to sweat it before you find 100 true testimonies on youtube.

Ranchhoddas:
He saw R'hllor-The Lord of Light.

Reassuring yourself ain't you?

KingEbukasBlog:
A beach party here

I have some time to deal with these ones tonight.

Ranchhoddas:
Winner01 come and see.

You searched and couldnt find. Someone went to dig out some stories from some blog and you jump for joy. Shame on you. Post videos showing those people giving their experiences not some poorly written stories by atheistic-minded desperate and disturbed individuals looking to disprove the authenticity of the testimonies of thousands of individuals.

And why is it so hard to find videos of these people?, I doubt you will find up to 5 of such videos on the internet.

dalaman:
So here are the endless confusing stories of people that claimed to have gone to heaven with very different description and tales of heaven. Each agreeing and aligning with their church doctrines.

1) Catholic priest aimed he want to heaven, purgatory and hell. In heaven he meet Jesus and Mary sitting on the throne.
http://www.experienceproject.com/stories/Am-Christian-(roman-Catholic)/1587294

2) This deeper life woman claimed she also went to heaven and saw things that agreed with the deeper life Church. Her story is so pathetic that even the founder of the deeper life Church pastor Kumuyi had to disavow her claims. What she said is completely different from what the Catholic priest saw.

http://eternal-destinations..com.ng/2013/12/linda-ngaujah-revelation-of-heaven-and.html?m=1

3) This mormon lady claims to have visited heaven. She say things that agreed with the Mormon church. Joseph Smith she claims is in heaven.

http://archive.sltrib.com/story.php?ref=/lds/ci_15227681

He story th and description of heave and what shw claimed she saw is completely different from the other 2 I just posted. I can post like 20 but I don't have the time.

All what this shows is that people can sit down imagine things and write them down to promote what ever course they have in mind and nothing else. People tell lies all the time to promote their religion. After all the people that wrote the bible, Koran and the Hindu Verdes were all telling lies.

You cant post 20 because they dont exist. Post their videos so we can see how comfortable they were, knowing they were lying.

dalaman:
Which evidence? Which evidence have you even provided for yourselves? Look at the various sects in christianity today and tell me.of you have any evidence to show each other amidst the endless confusion you are all marred in. You have not even provided enough evidence for yourselves to determine if the earth is a young earth or not. (The endless back and forth between the YEC and the OEC) you have not even determined if Jesus is a different and distinct person from God or if he is God himself (Many christians are confused about this and there is no consensus) , you have not yet provided evidence for the nature of hell and how salvation can be achieved even amongst yourelves because all of you disagree with each other on this basic things. There is no universally accepted christians doctrine and theology. Each sects just makes up its own along the way. When you finish providing evidence to the various conflicting sects withing christianity, you can then come and show us where this elusive evidence of yours leads. And as for the stories about people going to heaven and meeting God. I post 4 different stories here and you will see that these guys are just lying and making everything up. They all describe very different things that just do not add up. Some will tell you that heaven is this while.others will tell you that heaven is that. Some will tell.you that they meet Jesus and Mary in heaven while.others will tell.you that Jesus told them to tell people when they get back to earth to stop worshipping Mary . Is it this confusion that you call evidence? You guys and your endless jokes.

You type as though you are going through some sort of pain. I couldnt help but notice. I agree that there are different sects that call themselves the true christians but i'm sure you've heard of atheist mega churches. You can try to rationalize why sworn atheists would build churches. To suppress the truth of course.
It is easier to cause confusion amongst people by joining them or pretending to be like them than by facing them directly.
The existence of different arms of christianity does not disprove the authenticity of christianity but further proves that there is something special about it. You keep proving that to me to. I must say thank you to you and others, y'all help to keep the fire in me burning with the way y'all persuade me not to believe in God with you.

If people say heaven is this or that, will 10 humans taken to different parts of the earth have the same story to tell about earth? Be objective my friend.

And this is not the evidence that i meant, i meant the evidence that points to an Intelligent designer. You sure know how to direct arguments to a corner where you think you have some cheap knowledge.

Dont i just love these quotes

dalaman:
Or rather you pray to your imaginary God to come and kill off all the atheist so that they will leave you guys alone.

We dont want you to leave us alone. We want you to follow the evidence where it leads. We want you to embrace objectivity.
For this, We will pray for you.

simplex2:
Cool story...

Did he see the 3-eyed raven too?

No he didn't, maybe you would when your turn comes.

frank317:
Lol...without his type, some pastors will not eat

Thanks for the compliment. I however, wish to keep feeding those pastors. The best you can do is to kill yourself.

Ranchhoddas:
I read some of them on this forum. Look for them yourself. There are some on youtube. My device does not allow me to post links.

Like i expected .
Farewell then.

sonOfLucifer:
Listen to yourself. No one cares if you believe in God or not. I don't. It's your mind to waste, not mine.

Run along then.

prinsam30:
surely they all can't be crazy

even the most powerful Prophets of this generation have never claimed they have been to heaven, that alone keeps me pondering

That proves that no man is the first born of God. We are all children of God.

lepasharon:
Funny how jehovah's witnesses never go to hell..

Post such videos. Thank you.

sonOfLucifer:
And I see you dominating the enemies you have created in your mind. Good luck.

So why do you desperately want me not to believe in God with you?.
Answer that question sincerely and objectively and ill start to take you seriously.

sonOfLucifer:
A dead man lives in you? You're possessed. Lol. No wonder.
I'd love to share my trauma, but it seems you have bigger issues in your head.

You wish he was dead right?.

Share your trauma, c'mon.

sonOfLucifer:
Jesus said this world is not your own. He's preparing a better one for you. Go. We don't want you here. This world belongs to Satan. You are an infidel.

God created me here and instructed me to dominate (have dominion) over His creation. @bolded, i wish you could take the earth with you when you die.
The world belongs to God, but satan claimed dominion when our first parents swore their alleigance to the devil. I, however, rule over principalities and powers and rulers of darkness because of the power of the sacrificial lamb.

Bless you.