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onetrack:
Then you should accept the FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER into your heart, because he created you.

Do we have any claims supporting the FSM?

LastOkpaBender:
What else do you expect them to base it on?

The should man up and base it on atheism.

First and foremost, I'm happy that you believe in God. I'm also happy that you're open minded.
It is true that whatever decision you make about the existence and personality of God will affect how you live life here on earth and even determine your beyond. It is the most important decision in the life of man.

I want you to know that we all have questions. I have my questions about my faith. No human can ever claim to have answers to all questions, christian or not. Even the most intelligent of men cannot claim to have all the answers to lifes questions. Its all too complex and our life time is too short to understand a fraction of it.

I quite agree with you on the terrible atmosphere of christianity in Nigeria. I was not a christian myself as an undergraduate. During NYSC in the east, I was gradually becoming a devout christian, there were few churches I tried attending. I attended a winners chapel branch in awka, anambra state one sunday and my heart broke. It was a money showoff right in the church. The testimony givers had to be those whose favours ranked up to millions of naira. I couldnt even listen to the message, how could I? I attend another branch, it was the same. I attend Redeem too, it was the same money focus. Being a New convert, this things put me off.

Leaving out churches and its leaders, even the body of the church (individuals) are also guilty. Many people are only christians on sunday, they live as though they do not believe in God for the rest of the week. Its heartbreaking. I've personally experienced the self-righteousness and hypocrisy of many christians and pastors.
It seems as if the church is turning people away from itself.
Admist all these negatives, I like to think of the church as an hospital, which accomodates the sick. I like to think of the congregation as people who are sick, some who are responding to treatment e.t.c.
What I wont do however is to dismiss the credibility of the hospital and its founder. And you shouldn't either.

The Bible made some extraordinary claims. Jesus is one of those claims. Its why skeptics must try to dissmiss that Jesus ever existed. Jesus made claims no other man made, He claimed to be Son of God, He claimed to be there in the inception of our world. He claimed to have all the power in heaven and in earth. He claimed to be the only way to God. Most importantly, He claimed to be CHRIST, the saviour of the world.
At first, many of his disciples had their reservations about his person.
Well, I wont want to go into the validity of those claims, but Him being the only way to God is one which I want you to consider. For there is no salvation in any other.

Deism, the belief in a God who has abandoned his creatures does not appeal to me. I like to think of men as gods. We strive daily to imitate God. We create beauty and rule over it. What man wont do, is to create beauty and abandon it.
I dont think you can serve Christ, the saviour of the world, and a God who has abandoned his creation. It negates the worldview of christianity.
I accept there are many questions surrounding the universe, many controversies surrounding the christian worldview, and this is what we should expect.
I mean, if we understood the fullness and entirety of God our Creator, then what does that make us?

The most important thing as I strive to understand this strange place i've found myself is Jesus Christ. I believe He will also make your paths straight if you acknowledge Him in your journey of life.

I have something that might help you, something that might answer a good part of your questions. You can send me an e-mail, so we can interact better.

AnonyNymous:
You're also a liar. You didn't see my definition. You didn't even see anything. You just rushed to comment. If you did you wouldn't have posted the meme asking a question with the premise 'if life comes from from dead material', when I explicitly stated that I don't believe in that in the op.
Also, I have no 'agenda' against theists. I only exposes contradictions and illogicality when I see it. If anything, I'm against theists that use their religion to hinder the progress of society.

Relax bruh
You could save yo'self the stress by simply answering my first question then.

Contradictions and illogicalities that dont support your world views?

Do we have deeply religious societies that have progressed.

onetrack:
No, but the scientific community overwhelmingly accepts the theory of evolution, which is all I'm claiming.

They overwhelmingly accepted the theories of spintaneous generation, expanding earth, static universe, cold fusion etc too.

They all turned out to be wrong.

AnonyNymous:
You're a fraud. Why did you edit the post again? Am I offended by your questions? No, I'm offended by your stupidity! You're so wrapped up in your crusade against atheism that you did not even read the topic of the thread, not to all of the opening post before asking your 'questions'. Its like someone just said 'I eat beans without palm oil' and then youncome in and ask 'why do you hate beans?'. That's how stupid you looked.

I saw yo definition of god and reconciled it with your agenda against theists.
Buh Why u mad bruh

taurus25:
wow...your obsession with atheism is strong. Read the post carefully again , the op does believe a god exists.

Im not the op but he did say he *did not know* if there is anything like an afterlife....

onetrack:
Tell me about it. Stupid vaccines and electricity and airplanes and computers and cell phones. There actually is no 'science' behind them, only very good juju.

The Science community is not the same as atheist community you know.

AnonyNymous:
What is your problem. Just what the f*ck is your problem?? If you even read my op you'd see how your questions don't make sense because they shouldn't be directed at me. Get the f*ck out if you have a mental problem

Are you offended by my questions?

They are just harmless questions you know.

Busayorafael:
Winner01 is a clown. I don't think anybody should take him seriously.

And BTW, you all encouraging him are not helping him at all.

lol.
Ok.

Zellie:
You're obsessed. It's like youre trying to convince yourself God exists.

How about atheists who opened threads on religion today, have you told them this?

https://www.britannica.com/art/Early-Christian-art


cc: raphieMontella

I have 2 questions

1. What does it feel like to talk about God everyday of your life?.

2. Refer to picture below.

CoolUsername:
No. So I don't argue against what I don't understand. There's no way two individuals can give rise to such genetic diversity with all that incest.

But I also disagree with such level of certainty regarding such matters.

CoolUsername:
How do so many races split from two people without evolution?

I dont know. Do you know the answer to everything?

Ranchhoddas:
I am pretty sure you aren't cracked up!

You have no idea mehn.

21. Ladies and gents, we have a new evolution chart.
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22. Imagine Ifeness called a meeting which included hahn, cloudgoddess and Mark Zuckerberg
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Mark sorry oo. Its because you dont share their hate.









23. Greatest question ever. If you say life came from dead matter, why dont you believe life can proceed right after death
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24. Atheists be like: "The universe is self existent, no external force required. lol.
Great logic, innit?
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25. Atheists be like: We are not angry, we are just clearing misconceptions.
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26. Religion is the sane, naah, its different. You better make up yo' mind www.nairaland.com/attachments/4284745_screengrab20160925011715edit_jpegcff5e7879badb4924f3e726b3167e3c6








27. Me: The problem of Nigeria is corruption, misuse of power, mismanagement of funds, poverty, vandalism of govt. property, Poor productive capacity, looting of public funds, illiteracy, ignorance etc.
Atheists: The problem of Nigeria is religion
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28. Atheists are more open-minded. lol.
All we have is here and now. lol
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29. The way you feep about Zeus or Brahma, thats the way I feel about your God. lol
Who is deluded?
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30. Atheists, when they realize they are terribly outnumbered, they try to invite agnostics to their camp. What the hell is agnostic atheist, its like saying Sure unsure.
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31. Winner01, you dont listen. Atheism is not a thing, its a lack of belief.
Me:
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32. At the end of the day, they need help. We can be that help.

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33. But on a more serious note:
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CAPSLOCKED:

FOR ME, YOUR BASTARD FRIENDS ALWAYS COME TO MY DOOR TO SHOW ME THE BIGGEST FORM OF STUPID.

lol. www.nairaland.com/attachments/4287209_s32112627edit_jpegd616db8fef12ed149faeba04eb472ccc

CAPSLOCKED:
THEY TELL ME TO JOIN THEM IN PRAYERS, AND BEFORE I AGREE OR DISAGREE THEY'VE STARTED TO SPEAK IN MEANINGLESS TONGUES.. SOMETHING NO ONE UNDERSTANDS. NOT EVEN A MAD PERSON DOES THAT.

I'd like to know where you live.
Before you agree? Really?
So you mean you have no choice in the matter

CAPSLOCKED:
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THEY DISTURB MY PEACE WHERE EVER THEY FIND ME, WAKING ME FROM SLEEPING AROUND 3AM WITH THE NOISE FROM THEIR MEGAPHONES.. DRUMMING SO LOUD DURING WORSHIP THAT IT DISTURBS THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD.

Have you tried discussing with the pastors or the local government on this. There are better ways than coming to the internet to express your lives frustrations.

CAPSLOCKED:

FORCING ME TO TAKE THEIR PAMPHLETS AND EVEN STICKING IT ON MY DOOR OR SLIDING IT THROUGH IF IM NOT AROUND.

They force you to take their pamphlets? How old are you? 12?

I receive pamphlets regularly from muslims, jehovas witness, night parties, I dont even read them. Are you under a spell to collect or read whatever is given to you?

CAPSLOCKED:

I FIND THEM IN COMMUTER BUSES, PREACHING AND SPRAYING US PASSENGERS WITH SALIVA AS THEY RANT ABOUT THEIR CRAPPY FATHER IN THE SKY AND ALL HIS BULLSHYT.

Address the issue at the location instead of coming here to cry. Speak for yourself, not the passengers.
Ranting is what you're doing right now.

CAPSLOCKED:

THEIR GIRLS DON'T WANNA DATE OR MARRY ME, BECAUSE I DON'T ATTEND THEIR PARTICULAR CHURCH CUZ THEIR PASTOR MADE THAT RULE, AND ANYONE WHO GOES AGAINST THE RULES WILL DIE AND GO TO HELL. IMAGINE THAT SHITTINESS.

Their girls dont marry you and this makes you angry. With this rage in you, would you allow your daughter marry a christian

Does the pastor decide on those who go to heaven?
If so, can you back it with scriptures

CAPSLOCKED:

COME TO MY STREET ALL THE PROVISION SHOPS / KIOSKS HAVE BEEN CONVERTED TO WORSHIP JOINTS, OR EXTORTION UNITS RATHER. SINGLE SHOPS ARE NOW CALLED "THE HOUSE OF GOD", SOME HAVING JUST 8 TO 9 MEMBERS, MOSTLY THE PASTORS FAMILY.... ALL KIOSKS PREACHING DIFFERENTLY IN THE NAME OF THE SAME GOD.. WHY SHOULD I TAKE YOU GUYS SERIOUSLY??

You can lead by example by constructing science laboratories or reason factories. lol. At least if all the atheists in Nigeria got to work, we would know y'all mean buisness. Not all this hate motivated rants.
Those who are making moves are theists. Y'all need to work, not talk.

CAPSLOCKED:

Y'ALL CAN WORSHIP AND PRAISE HIM ALL YOU LIKE, BUT INTERFERING WITH PEOPLES ACTIVITIES IS SO UNJUST AND DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

Which people? majority of these so called "people" are theists. Speak for yourself.

Plus, what do you mean by unjust? Is there a universal code guiding what is just and unjust? Can you tell me what i'm missing.

raphieMontella:
you're joking right?
Ex-muslims plague shvt out of muhammed..dont even go there..
The 95% is insignificant...islamic atheism is on the rise..
Calling 95% percent...i hope you know leaving islam usually has a death warrant?
In tunishia...atheist bars...asin common bars are closed down due to islamic beliefs..many muslims are closet atheists...its just that death warrant...when muslim morals change like christians did...muslims will deconvert like hell

But research has shown that atheism is dying and the number of its adherents has been predicted to fall over the next 10 years.

If Islam is standing on the rights of individuals to express their freedom of speech, is it not more dangerous than christianity? Talkless of the ever vibrant jihadi groups springing up all over the world and causing terror by the day?

Why then is your life focused on combating christianity? Do you even know the meaning of humanism?
Should atheists not wage a nore urgent war against idologies vibrantly restricting human rights?
Do you people care about the evils of religion or are y'all just mad at christianity because its most likely accurate?

raphieMontella:
give me an example of arts and literature done in the name of christianity,,because i dont understand you...

tarrrh...none?
Heard of simeone de beauvoir's revolutionary feminist book ''THE SECOND SEX''?
Kazimierz Łyszczyński's treatise?
Jean paul sartre?
Richards francis burton's exploration for ?
georg christoph litchenberg?
Percy Bysshe Shelley works?

I dont understand...
The works of these people were from their atheism

Ill appreciate if you could give me the specific names of those works done on or for atheism, and not just the names of prominent late atheists.
I look forward to your answer so I can educate myself, thanks.

I dont know a tenth of christian arts and literature, but here are some:
The Last Supper by Leonardo da Vinci
The Creation of Adam by Michelangelo
Madonna del Prato (also known as Madonna of the Meadow) by Raphael
Salome with the Head of Saint John the Baptist by Bernardino Luini
San Zaccaria Altarpiece by Giovanni Bellini
The Wedding at Cana by Paolo Veronese
Good Shepherd from the Catacomb of Calixtus.
Pesaro Madonna by Titian
The Last Judgment by Hieronymus Bosch
The Tower of Babel by Pieter Bruegel the Elder
The Book of Durrow
The Lichfield Gospels
The High Cross Sculpture
The Echternach Gospels
The Gatehouse of the Lorsch Monastery
The School of Athens by Raphael
The Palatine Chapel
The Church of St Cyriakus at Gernrode
Bamberg Cathedral
The Lindisfarne Gospels
The stunning Book of Kells
Cathach of St. Columba
Christ among His Apostles, Catacomb of Domitilla.
Godescalc Evangelistary
The Utrecht Psalter
The Grandval Bible
The Sarchophargus series
Christian Byzantine art
The diptych panel paintings
The Virgin Hodegetria
St Peter
St Michael
The Holy Virgin of Vladimir
Madonna of Don Icon
Mother of God Hodigitria
Christ Treading on the Lion

Please for Christs sake help your self here
Source
Source2
source3
source4
I hope this helps.

You can also look up christian architecture, music, literature etc and the effect of christianity on the world during the medieval ages.

raphieMontella:
you should make up your mind on your god first

Right after you make up your mind on who you spend your whole life fighting

raphieMontella:
then in that case...buddhism isnt a religion...because its a walk with karma or something...
Agreed?

You can call it a walk with budhha for all i care.
I have a relationship with God. I dont believe in religious practices or rituals.

raphieMontella:
agreed..
Tho agnostical atheists and agnostics would prefer to be called irreligious...they are ironically atheists...
Definition of atheism is the problem here...
For me its a state of ''lack of belief''..not no God...

Thank God you said "For me". I appreciate you trying to redefine atheism, However Your opinion is irrelevant.

raphieMontella:
Some fallacies here need to be corrected tho

an exmuslim turned atheist would ''fight'' against the islamic god....does it make allah real?
Or does it validate allah as the creator of the cosmos?
Likewise the christian god.....
.

They hardly loose their minds like 95% atheists. You can check facebook, instagram, youtube for the proof you need.

raphieMontella:
this is not a point
irreligious has religious in it...doesnt prove anything...
Ts just a way of defining a person

You ddnt get the point, whenever you tell me about yourself, you're calling my attention to God

raphieMontella:
i dont understand you here...atheists do not condemn only christianity
also on arts,literature
Frederick James furnivall;A co-creator of the oxford english dictionary
albert camus?(nobel prize winner in literature)
giosue cardussi?(first italian nobel prize winner)
anatole france?(nobel prize winner)

pablo neruda(nobel prize winner)
julian barnes?(man booker prize winner)
henri carrier bretson...father of modern photography

pablo picasso?

Even in our africa here
nadine Gordimer(nobel prize winner)
wole soyinka(nobel prize winner)
abege
abege! Atheists have been instrumental to art,literature etc...
Do not lie again..

Bros, Nothing has been done in the name of atheism on arts, literature and other sane relevancies..
If I start to mention the names of christian nobel prize winners, you go tire. Atheists do not even begin to move close in number.
However, they did not do it in the name of christianity.
This is not to say we dont have things done in the atheism. We have things like the Organisation of American atheist, Atheist mega churches, League of militant atheists, etc IN THE NAME OF ATHEISM.
Google is your friend ehn. Arts and christianity.
If you can have atheist organizations, churches or terror groups, then you can have arts and literature done in the name of atheism. Unfortunately, I dont see any.

raphieMontella:
ok..so antony flew was right..
Atheists are wrong..
What was antony's final stand=deism...
So whats your point sire?
By virtue of flews supreme authority...christianity is wrong and it is BS..

I tire oo. Whenever we launch attacks with this, you say its belief vs. disbelief and not atheism vs christianity. Whenever we dance to your tune and mention non-christians, you revise your tactics and say it must strictly be christian.
You must make up yo' mind bruh

raphieMontella:
67-70 percent of the world is religious...not 97....pls stop the lies....

If I was asked to fill a questionaire, and indicate:
Religious
Not religious.
Ill obviously tick not religious, cos i'm not. The issue is, what percentage of the world are atheists. Please dont side with irreligion on this one. lol

EyeHateGod:
Do u see how this two sentences contradict each other and have u ever hear of the word double standard b4?

If you saw someone wear "I hate my mother", what wld u do?

EyeHateGod:
U see y i called u A hypocrite? Why on Earth do i see people Wearing The lord choosen Shirt?

Atheism is not a thing. The Lords chosen is a thing. People will think you are mad.

Can you wear " Football is for delusional people" for a day. People will thing you are mad.

You can wear science, logic, rational etc

If you wear your moniker "IhateGod", ol'boy, na psychiatric home oo.
Cos nobody cares.

EyeHateGod:
And Hypocrite like Winner01 would come out to say 2billion people are being persecuted can u see how dumb that sound

Why in God's name would you wear a shirt with the inscription.

"Football is bullshit"

"Education is senseless"
or
"I dont believe in God"

Nobody cares about your stupidity.

12. Atheists will tell you "atheism is not a thing" when attacked, but will attach science, reasoning, logic and other goodies when attacking theists.
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13. Atheists be like: "Religion is the root of violent in history and at present" but cant give a reason why atheists have killed far more than all religion within a relatively short time.
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14. Atheists be like: "Communism has nothing to do with atheism" you deluded christians. History dont lie.
Who doesn't love history.
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15. Atheists be like: "The Bible supports slavery, murder, rape, incest, corruption, terrorism" e.t.c Bruh:www.nairaland.com/attachments/4284700_s15017733edit_jpeg0e18874dbf74dcb50b5f26f843d5e733








16. Atheists be like: "If I say God doesn't exist, then he doesn't". lolwww.nairaland.com/attachments/4284707_s3147734edit_jpeg5a866baf03c464bfc1d4c258c66871ec








17. One advice bro, never hit an atheist with logic. He gon loose it.
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18. When you become an atheist and think you can form Mark Zuckerberg and manage the hate and rage that comes with it.www.nairaland.com/attachments/4284715_s27808675edit_jpeg18d5d2cd3e9155b431ee1e8b27a2ffa1






19. Atheist oppression from christians in real life. lol. And why they come to the internet to rant.
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20. Atheists be like: Keep your bullshit to yourself.
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21. How an atheist be reading this right now
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4everGod:
lol yet their truth can never stand on its own. it must lean on everything else except itself in order to stand.

it must lean on Islam, Buddhism, Science and most of all Christianity before it can stand yet it claims to know it all even though it has to borrow from all these just to quote a single sentence each and every time.

Atheism and Insanity are 5 and 6

True!!!

So true!!!

Atheists never talk about atheism because it is baseless and senseless.
They try to steal science and pitch it against Christianity.

Its okay though, we understand that thay need to cling to something.




Me asking an atheist to stop talking about science and start talking about atheism:

4everGod:
laugh wan tear my belle! hahahahahahahaha They are monitoring the thread like white on rice or tongue and teeth.

How can anyone in all honesty spend time and energy yapping about someone they absolutely believe is nonexistent?

They will say its for my sake and for my good because they want to free me from my presumed delusion and I always ask them...I send you message? I mean when did I ask you to be my advocate? When did we both draw up and sign a memorandum of understanding to that effect?...Gosh!

Atheism Taaaarr!!!

They are the custodians of truth in the universe.
lmao

3% of humanity................the remaining 97% are deluded

1. Atheists are fighting against something they don't believe exists. It's like writing blogs against Caspar the Friendly Ghost or Godzilla. Why would you bother?
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2. Atheists spend more time writing on Christian blogs than they do on their own. Why fuel a nonexistent fire?www.nairaland.com/attachments/4284371_s19469636edit_jpegb4cb10b6efea1f22c6f87662e3a5ee6c






3. Atheists love to act intellectual until you catch them doing something illogically and then they scream profanities cause that's really intellectual.www.nairaland.com/attachments/4284444_s22530650edit_jpegc336762d99e773542b9fd1fa96c41ae8






4. Atheists have the word theist in their name. Every time they say who they are they call attention to God.www.nairaland.com/attachments/4284423_s23084624edit_jpeg33a1fd127a8b840008836fd4ff513403






5. Atheists condemn all that's wrong with Christianity and yet can not produce one work of art, literature or sacrificial deed done in the name of atheism. Even they realize it's not worth dying for.www.nairaland.com/attachments/4284451_s16634647edit_jpeg223cdb7df6a78e86080d326fc6dbc5d2






6. Atheists only believe in what their senses tell them unless its Darwin telling them things that happened billions of years ago, then they have more faith than a Catholic at First Communion.www.nairaland.com/attachments/4284474_s22864718edit_jpeg849dc142a9af2a75bb67ccd3d15b2fe0






7. Atheists believe in science unless the scientists believe in God, then they denounce the scientist and call him a slowpoke.www.nairaland.com/attachments/4284473_s22650661edit_jpegace91007401a4558fdf826a924108ce9






8. Atheists believe in their fellow man, unless their fellow man believes in God, then they denounce their fellow man and call him a slowpoke.www.nairaland.com/attachments/4284516_s14115560edit_jpeg38b0b949e91113e2109a3003e071e8a3






9. Atheists believe in the great free-thinkers of the past like Andrew Flew unless they change their mind and become theists then they denounce them and call them morons.www.nairaland.com/attachments/4284519_673228499230417184065190737850579104618n_jpegcb9c7ec4a88c32c6ebde50c4dee49342






10. Atheists don't believe in morons unless they are atheists and then they embrace them and call them intellectuals.www.nairaland.com/attachments/4284532_screengrab20160925011814edit_jpeg919fd2ca2d6e73b5e61f2e2849cfccc8







Oh, and bonus.
11. Atheist be monitoring this thread like:www.nairaland.com/attachments/4284559_screengrab20160925010435edit_jpegeb239e7f263383230e9890caad4a9d18

atheist is less appealing to ladies even in the western world.

Ranchhoddas:
It's either objective or it's not. If people can find an explanation for it, then it's not objective.

People can find an explanation for anything. Just anything.

Ranchhoddas:
Objective proof?

Yes!
Depends on whether you wanna acknowledge it.

Do you have objective proof that APC is corrupt?
If you think you do, you haven't met pro-APC fans.

Proof is not the issue.
The side which the weight of evidence rests on, is the key.
It will direct us to proof.

ColdHardTruth:
maybe I'm hopefullandlord, maybe I'm not
using your very intelligent logic, you're also KingEbuka, since he also bumps up your thread

interesting how monickers is giving you so much headache

I hear you.

Ranchhoddas:
No faith is required if there is proof.

But we got proof, that why we have faith.

Do not pitch proof against faith, you're dancing to the tune of atheism.

They've tried the same for science and religion.

braithwaite:


Na you wan wake me? You geh beta yarn ? No b to yarn legbere issue abt religion and all you sabi..

Lol @ legbere

Ranchhoddas:
You did not see your great-great grandparents, but you are very sure they once lived and this certainty can be likened to the kind atheists have when it comes to evolution and the Big Bang.

Thats hardly the point.

We all have faith. Its God-given/innate.

Seeing is not necessarily believing.