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Lennycool:
Easily proven, almost all the cultural groups on earth have their own idea of a God over 5,000 known Gods worshipped around the planet. If God had created man and not the other way around, they would have all had the same God. But rather the christian God only revealed himself to a small portion of the population, rather than the whole world. If this seems strange its because the Israelites created him for themselves and because he is imaginary.

Okay, and its the world's biggest faith and has been predicted to grow even bigger how?

Are you a historian?
Have you taken your time to study yhese things and not just spew bull you read from atheist websites?.

Lennycool:
Easily proven, almost all the cultural groups on earth have their own idea of a God over 5,000 known Gods worshipped around the planet. If God had created man and not the other way around, they would have all had the same God. But rather the christian God only revealed himself to a small portion of the population, rather than the whole world. If this seems strange its because the Israelites created him for themselves and because he is imaginary.

Okay, and its the world's biggest faith and has been predicted to grow even bigger how?

Are you a historian?
Have you taken your time to study yhese things and not just spew bull you read from atheist websites?

[size=14pt]Science has nothing to do with atheism.[/size]

Its sad you cant talk about atheism without clinging to something.
Atheism is baseless and empty.

hopefulLandlord:
*Checks to see if the miracles are limb growing ones*

no limb growing miracle?

no surprises

its funny how the miracle that would actually have effects on atheism has never been documented to have happened

another make believe thread

Nice Thread! btw

And miracles are solely for atheists or meant to satisfy atheists?

Atheists are harmless pests, in real life, no one would care what you dont believe if you didnt lose your mind whenever you hear the word God

Sorry you loss would be quicker if just a fraction of theists turn at y'all. But naah. Atheism aint that important.

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hopefulLandlord:
now, do yourself a favour,

1. go back and read the message you quoted properly

2.don't be in a hurry to reply

3. count to 10

4. assimilate it

5. type something better

6. give glory to me

Cry harder kid

hopefulLandlord:
the proof is right in the message you quoted but religion does make people blind indeed

Prove it. I know you defend your lack of belief even though you got zero evidence.

The internet spreading reports of miracles is killing atheism and will continue to do so. Pentecostalism and evangelical Christianity are booming.


Atheism is dying in terms of the percentage of people in the world who are atheists (see: Decline of global atheism ).


As noted in a previous blog post, the American sociologists Peter Berger wrote, "One can say with some confidence that modern Pentecostalism must be the fastest growing religion in human history."


Phillip Jenkins published the book The Next Christendom: The Coming of Global Christianity.

Chuck Colson, citing the work of Jenkins, [url=www1.cbn.com/biblestudy/how-christianity-is-growing-around-the-world]writes[/url]:
As Penn State professor Philip Jenkins writes in The Next Christendom: The Coming of Global Christianity, predictions like Huntingtons betray an ignorance of the explosive growth of Christianity outside of the West.
According to Jenkins, the percentage of the worlds population that is, at least by name, Christian will be roughly the same in 2050 as it was in 1900. By the middle of this century, there will be three billion Christians in the world -- one and a half times the number of Muslims. In fact, by 2050 there will be nearly as many Pentecostal Christians in the world as there are Muslims today.


In addition, evangelical Christianity is growing rapidly in the world (see: Growth of evangelical Christianity )


Why atheism is dying and will continue to die out: Social media and the rest of internet is spreading reports of miraculous



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTVCpBEvheM

Miracles in hospitals - Cancer healed, lame walk e.t.c


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8myYNAlW6U


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39m0vFArKu8&itct=CA8QpDAYACITCPb78aODq88CFYqYHAodBYECCTIGcmVsbWZ1SKW3lYGNzOzkgwE%3D&hl=en-GB&client=mv-google&gl=NG


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m0a2TFrCQE&itct=CA4QpDAYASITCPb78aODq88CFYqYHAodBYECCTIGcmVsbWZ1SKW3lYGNzOzkgwE%3D&hl=en-GB&client=mv-google&gl=NG

Transgender set free by Jesus


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZAjdNbGJCc&itct=CA8QpDAYACITCMe4t7uDq88CFQUBHAod-0ICgjIHcmVsYXRlZEiBkqyLk9vGtuoB&gl=NG&hl=en-GB&client=mv-google



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4aYmQCzpdA



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfZYiTMctok






[size=14pt]Our God is Migthy to save[/size]

Miladi:
You amused me. The real scientists I know all has patent inventions. So, if you have no patented invention to your name, you have are no more than a journalist that can present a perfect reportage about how Microsoft corporation and its products are built, even better than Bill Gates himself can analyse, despite him been the founder/owner. Information isn't knowledge, its only a process towards knowledge.

Flotation principle on earth pillars still remain a rule, but not a law. Rules scientifically or diplomatically are never considered as laws anywhere. Until you prove and show me where to locate the pillars that holds the earth, I remained strong on my belief of the sole creator of the world.

As for dreams and the near death extinction dialogs, you also failed to provide emperical evidences to support your submissions. The last time I checked, a scientific postulation without an empirical support amounts to fallacy.

Sincerely, we can only discuss spirituality when you agrees to its meaning.

Beautiful and well-put

joe4christ:
Stupidly defending a God who can't even defend himself.

Cry baby

joe4christ:
You just succeeded in portraying a monster God and a bully. who, though he could have made the world a peaceful wonderful paradise, but yet chosed to make it what it is today. And u still associate love to such a monstrous personality
Hmmm, you need help bro.

Did someone die?

ValentineMary:
Yes. I do it often.

You do never.
Atheism is empty. You know that.

ValentineMary:
It actually disprove the goodness of God. Is God all loving and all powerful, u would ans yes. If that is the case, why has he not stopped suffering if he is all loving? if he is able but unwilling, is he all loving and if he is unwilling but unable, is he all powerful ?

Did God say anywhere in the Bible that our world will be free of pain and suffering or do you want to come up with just any argument that suit your bias?
He wont stop suffering, its consistent with scriptures.
And Stop using the dictums of people whose mental state you dont know.
If God is this then he is that, bullshit.

So God must fit into the wishes of his creation.

ValentineMary:
We humans right the law and that's why people have used a God theory to manipulate it to fill their selfish desire.



Actually that's just what happened. We invented a God that fits our imagination. A god that upholds men over women just like the ancient hebrews did, a God that likes the smell of burning flesh, a God that kills people for meat, a God that is insecure over petty human's worship, etc.
Gods beaver like the people that worship them.

Humans have an innate law guiding their doings. Conscience.
Its the moral code installed by our Creator.
Kill that conscience and youare capable of justifying just anything.

If God fitted your imagination, you wont be so disturbed and confused. You'll be satisfied.
lol.

Im sure you prefer a God that does not demand worship.
Just swallow your pride dude, you didnt create yourself.

winner01:
Why ddnt you mention
North korea
Cambodia etc.
Do you cherry pick places that suit your delusions?

Russia, U.S.A, Germany etc have more theist than atheists. Why does your filthy logic not apply in those places?

Nigerias problem is corruption, poverty, unemployment, inequality, illiteracy etc not religion.
Open your mind.

ValentineMary, Sorry I hurt you with my facts

ValentineMary:
It depends. If I see reason with them.

Lol. Babies dont have such abilities.

Indoctrination.
lol.

ValentineMary:
Did u not hear when I said I want to stay away from evolution discussion now

Can atheism be discussed without evolution or religion?

ValentineMary:
U missed the point. I was talking on design but since u agree God made HIV and ebola that can kill kids, what then makes him good? is he God because he is God? or all he does is good??

Kids are being killed to you. You are a mere human. Admit that.
If the creator of kids take them back, is there a fault in that?
If you sell a phone (you didnt even create), are you accussed of heartlessness?
God is goodness. The standard for Good.
Jesus foretold of a world filled with suffering in the Bible, we are aware of this. How does it then disprove the goodness of God?

Who even decided what is good or not?
You?

ValentineMary:
if being God makes him good, then good has no real meaning to what we humans define it as but if all he does is good, then there is a contradiction here.

God created Good and evil. It does not stop him from being all Good.
I dont really get your point, have you never read in the scriptures that God is a consuming fire?
Should i disbelieve because i dont like that idea?

You see, your wishes and definations of who God should be wont change anything.
It is what would have happened if the Bible was written by the human mind. We would have invented a God that would suit our wishes.

ValentineMary:
I speak on islam also. But I talk more on christianity because that's what I was born into. And I see the harm christianity and islam have on Nigeria and I can't just keep shut about it.

I don't talk on hinduism because they don't have much direct impact on me.

Keep crying. Just make sure you have freed your family and friends from their delusions before you extend the love to nairaland.

If your parents were atheists, would you be an atheist?

ValentineMary:
I find this funny because I have done my reserch I guess u should do your's.

Anyways when I say 96%, it basically mean we have a higher ratio than these countries. Those countries u listed are more populated than Nigeria.

Why ddnt you mention
North korea
Cambodia etc.
Do you cherry pick places that suit your delusions?

Russia, U.S.A, Germany etc have more theist than atheists. Why does your filthy logic not apply in those places?

Nigerias problem is corruption, poverty, unemployment, inequality, illiteracy etc not religion.
Open your mind.

ValentineMary:
In trying to make a point, u deny the beauty of waves. Okay lies are allowed in christianity u guys have been lying for 2,000 years so one more would not hurt.
Well let's not talk of evolution. I don't want to strech this further.


Anyways if we are to look at beauty in the world, we should also look at it's opposite. If there was a creator who created all things, did he also create HIV to destroy the immue system he created??

Does your mentor also lie?
Once it does not agree with atheism its a lie shey?
I understand.
Why do you people mention simple occurences like ocean waves, sand dunes etc
When they are not half as complex and the simplest of cells. Can you see that you are close-minded?

Did God also create Ebola?
Evil is consistent with the scriptures. God did not promise a rosy world or life.
Where you even ever a christian.
People will be sick, die, kill and be killed. Evil exists and will abound.
You lack the basic knowledge of christianity. God address those who forcefed you.

ValentineMary:
Nigeria is 96% religious while Iceland is mostly atheist populated. How has these "things of the spirit" helped us it seems it has caused more bad than good.

Liar!
Dont dwell on what atheist liars say. Take some time to do you own research for once in your life.

By the way.
Russia, U.S.A, China etc have more christians than Nigeria so whats your point?

ValentineMary:
I have said this several times. Show ur evidence for a creator first. But when I look at the world I see no evidence for one. And moreover not everything created needs a creator. Look at the oceanic wave, how beautiful it is yet can u say it was created or it's just accidental product of nature

Naah.
ocean waves and sand dunes are your way out. We are talking complexity and beauty.

ValentineMary:
Bro this xtians tire me. They make shallow and unreasonable statements that when I read comments I pity the future of Nigeria if they are to be the majority.
Winner01 is their torch bearer in delusion and ignorance and he honestly thinks that only xtians are not ignorant. He has ruled out islam, hindus, atheist, etc.

Xtian: I am right

Muslim: I am right

Hindus: I am right

Atheist: You are all wrong because im all-logical and rational.

yet he thinks atheist are delusional, that guy need his pills.

Fixed!!

btw. Have you ever spoken about muslims or hindus. Why dont you loose your mind over them.
I guess you dont concern yourself with lies.

hopefulLandlord:
Mr adult

if you ask me the origin of man, I'll simply say "I don't know" but I won't fill that gap of knowledge with an imaginary friend either, then tell anyone who doesn't believe that tale that they'll burn forever

gods are created to fill our knowledge gaps which explains why every culture have their own idea of who god is

man created god and not the other way around and evidence so far points to that being right


and all the theistic arguments I've seen over the months on Nairaland are in fact "Deistic" arguments

don't believe me bro, just take time to go through your own posts over the years and see that you've been arguing more in favour of deism than theism

And so you dont know, and you need people not to know with you?

If you dont believe in failure, it does not stop you from failing if you dont prepare. Same goes with hell. Wish it away all you can.

If man created God, why not prove it. Can you ever think freely and not dwell on wat atheist high prests have said

ValentineMary:
What makes u think there has to be a creator deity who makes stuffs what's ur evidence

What make you think creation requires no Creator?

hopefulLandlord:
you're the one talking nonsense and stupidity here

not all atheist accept the evolution theory

you're muddling things up and calling someone else idiots

anyways, in my infinite mercy, I shall give you steps to converse better on the topic

1. learn what atheism means

2. learn what the evolution theory means

3. digest the differences very well

4. type something a lot more reasonable

5. thank me and give glory to me for helping you learn something

If you dont believe in the theory of evolution, then how do you explain the origin of man.

The theory of evolution is vital to atheism kid.

hopefulLandlord:
but you need to believe the Christian god is the true god or burn in hell forever

salvation blackmail

but may people have woken up from that delusion and have left that blackmail behind

https://www.nairaland.com/3369245/nathan-pratt-journey-delusion-christianity

https://www.nairaland.com/3351652/why-preacher-gave-up-jesus

https://www.nairaland.com/3346359/teresa-mcbain-20-years-christian

https://www.nairaland.com/3328016/christianity-atheism-explanation

ColdHardTruth

Lennycool:
Now i known you are simply deluded winner01 please tell me, who are you waiting on to start endtime? Surt or Jesus? Forget demonic spirits.

Start endtime?
Is anyone going to start endtime?
Is that what you were indoctrinated with?

Lennycool:
See your life. Look at the bolded. So you believe the other Gods exist too. I hope you know they all have different creation stories. Like the Norse believe in surt. The first world to exist was Muspell, a place of light and heat whose flames are so hot that those who are not native to that land cannot endure it. Surt sits at Muspell's border, guarding the land with a flaming sword. [That's interesting!] At the end of the world he will vanquish all the gods and burn the whole world with fire.I hope you believe he exist too.

I believe those gods exist.
You have no grounds to justify your lack of belief. This attempt is lame.
The Bible mentioned several gods of men made potent by demonic spirits.
They all exist.

You have no reason.

analice107:
Hahahahahahahahahaha. And am looking for a husband? Even i am, it has to be you? Grrrrrreat.

If dem dash me you, i go jump and pass.


Am not in the least advertising myself. Its just to let you know that if i cross over and there's no God, i"ll have nothing to lose.

But what will be your fate if you find out there is indeed God?

Salvation of my Spirit is by grace, but transforming and renewing my mind which is the salvation of my soul, is solely my responsibility.

I am the ignorant one here? Hilarious.
Gerrarahia.

;DLmao @ the bolded

For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God (Romans 3:23)

Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you. (Ephesians 4:32)

ValentineMary:

Lol maybe u should study Taoism, buddhism or confucianism first before u make that conclusion

I understand you people are terribly outnumbered hence the need to invite agnostics and naturalistic religions to your tent.
I thought atheism did not mandate religious rituals.
lol
Confusion.

ValentineMary:
This is funny because there are so many atheist politicians in Britain, China, Australia, Denmark, etc. And I don't see people killing religious people there today. Or by most do u mean only Stalin

Lol. You wonder why people will rather vote for a theist than an atheist?
Its funny you wish to deny the facts, history will always stand in your face. I referred to atheist leaders who have existed not mere politicians.
Joseph stalin is one leader out of many, I gave examples here.

ValentineMary:
This is hilarious. I have hate most of my best friends are christinas, I even have a christian as a mentor. So now u know why am laughing at this part. Lol

Of course, you may be surrounded by christians. Im quite sure that you dare not try this obsession with a "non-existent" God around them. So they dont wonder what has come over their friend.
Do you try to rid your friends and mentor of their delusions like you cowardly do here?
I guess not.
In real life, no one cares about your lack of whatever. lol....

ValentineMary:
You have zero idea of who I am. So how do u know this Now u know why I don't take you serious.

I know because of the way you refer to religion and religious individuals even when you're still a nobody.
If you had your way, religion would be eradicated. Your brothers here are of the same opinion.
And to acheive that, it would take a bloodbath.

Lennycool:
Winner you and all these your post. Any one can stand up and say there God created the universe. So this is not proof of anything. Your bias simply doesn't let you see pass the Christian God.
"I contend that we are both atheist, I just believe in one less God than you do. When you understand why you don't believe in any of the other possible Gods, you will understand why I don't believe in yours"

Lol.
I've heard that a million times.
I'm not an atheists to idols or gods. I believe they all exist. I believe that there are evil spirits.
I do not close my eyes to such realities. I'm not tryingvto prove anything to you either.

When you understand why you loose your mind over the Christian God alone, then you would understand that He is the only stumbling block against the selfish wills of man.