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tintingz:
But you're here using the blessing of Lord Social media.

Hypocrite!

Should I stop you from using the blessings of Christianity?

https://www.nairaland.com/2975009/christianity-reason-science

Thank God you people are not majority, na so you go deprive us of our rights like all those atheist countries that existed?

Oh, and RuthlessLeader, those disciplines were created by creationists, I bet they are not real scientists.
21st century bullsh*t.

RuthlessLeader:
I see, you are a creationist, no wonder arguing with you has proven to be futile, you have been voluntarily caged by fundamentalism.


the next time you want to defend your fairy tale remember that the bible was supposedly composed over a 1,500 year period.

Ntoor, if you call me whatever you think I am, na you know o

I see that anyone who has a different opinion from yours must be close-minded.
Einstein duly noted the bigotry of atheists and everyday we see atheists reinforcing this obvious truth.

We asked for evidence, you said you can't provide any.

You say God is evil, His laws are evil, He committed suicide, and all these should prove that He does not exist.

If we don't agree with your nonsense, then we are caged.

Just open your eyes dude.

tintingz:
I don't need to declare it God, it's God, our new generation supreme God.

The difference between us is that, I am not obsessed with your own version of god. I don't talk or think about your god 24/7.
I don't think you can say the same for yourself.

RuthlessLeader:
Jesus committed the sin of suicide

If Jesus was God as claimed by nearly all Christians, then he had the power to avoid being arrested and crucified. Therefore his crucifixion was a suicide, which is a sin according to Christian doctrine. Not only did Jesus not take actions fully within his capability to avoid being killed, he even predicted his death on multiple occasions, indicating that his suicide was premeditated.

Essentially, what Jesus did is equivalent to somebody brandishing a gun and threatening police so they can be shot- suicide by cops, as it were. Keep in mind that this allegation is aimed only at the Christian concept of Jesus. Secular historians believe that Jesus never predicted his death and did not seek nor expect his crucifixion.

Christians will claim that Jesus could be excused for failing to take actions to protect his life because it was a cosmic necessity for him to die so that sins could be forgiven. But if this is the case, then Christians should not blame either the Romans or the Jews for Jesus’s death- it was Jesus himself who is to “blame.”

what right do you think you have to tell God what to do and what not to do?

I really need to create the thread, who is God.

Cos it seems you think you have any rights apart from that with your creator has given you

RuthlessLeader:
we were in the endgame in 1988,1989,1999,2001,2012,2018. Left to you people 3018 and we will still be in endgame.

If the Bible was written through a 4,500 year period, and you're mocking the "end game" mere 2000 years later, what do we call you?

tintingz:
Mr bean didn't speak anywords in his shows and he was very successful, same as Tom and Jerry infact most shows during the 70/80s no words were spoken.

It's not about the words but about the production, if A.Y didn't have publicity agents or sponsors do you think he will be successful and known? There are more unknown talented comedian than A.Y out there.

Okay, but as for A.Y and other comedians he invites to his show, they created a living our if their words. Me, just like Mr bean, no not need to directly create our living like A.Y and other comedians.

RuthlessLeader:
Unfortunately i don`t have that evidence but let me ask you something; if we were created from dust shouldn`t we be mostly silicon based?

You don't have evidence and you're propagating the theory?

So you believe things for which there exists no tangible evidence?

tintingz:
Can words create tickets?

What nonsense is this? If A.Y couldn't speak you think he'll be able to make a living?
How about the comedians who are invited to perform at the show, they also bought tickets?

RuthlessLeader:
Matthew 5:17-20 King James Version (KJV)
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
What i mean is that if god exists, you have to follow all these laws because jesus never abolished it and god said in Numbers 23:19:God is not human, that he should lie,
not a human being, that he should change his mind.
Does he speak and then not act?
Does he promise and not fulfill?

Okay, because of this story, God does not exist?

State your point clearly Mr. man.

RuthlessLeader:
No story about Noah and his ark is complete without the bloated, gnarled, rotting carcasses of men, women, children, infants, fetuses, and other animals that God murdered floating alongside and bouncing against the boat.

How do you murder something you created and gave rights to live?

Are you accused of slavery when you sell a phone you didn't even create?

God is not the man you've created in your brains.

Butterflyleo:
I don't care which one. I am typing English am I not? I said I DONT CARE WHICH GOD. All I want is your evidence for the very first man or group of humans who invented God.

Try to stop beating around this bush, you are punishing the bush unnecessarily.

It's like you don't know Dalaman, that guy dribble pass Messi.

RuthlessLeader:
Yes there is evidence in the link i gave you.

Mention 5 of your strongest evidences, and let's subject them to scrutiny. I doubt you've ever scrutinized those claims...

Butterflyleo:
Lmao they were ALL WIPED OUT? If they were wiped out then how did the current form get here?

If they were wiped out then we should have their fossils LITTERED EVERYWHERE because they should be in their millions. So where are the millions of fossils?

Charles Darwin himself struggled with the the fact that the fossil record failed to support his conclusions and he wrote the following
“Why,” he asked, “if species have descended from other species by fine gradations, do we not everywhere see innumerable transitional forms? Why do we not find them imbedded in countless numbers in the crust of the earth?”
“The number of intermediate varieties, which have formerly existed, [must] be truly enormous,” he wrote. “Why then is not every geological formation and every stratum full of such intermediate links? Geology assuredly does not reveal any such finely graduated organic chain; and this, perhaps, is the most obvious and serious objection which can be urged against the theory”


Darwin was confident that fossil discoveries would provide clear and convincing evidence that his conjectures were correct. His theory predicted that countless transitional forms must have existed, all gradually blending from one tiny step to the next, as species progressively evolved to higher, better-adapted forms.
More than a million species are alive today. For all of these species to have evolved from common ancestors, we should be able to find millions, if not hundreds of millions, of intermediate forms(transitional forms) gradually evolving into other species.
And it was not only fossils of transitional species between apes and human beings that would have to be discovered to prove Darwin’s theory. The gaps were enormous.

RuthlessLeader:
A real god wouldn`t make petty rules
One sign that the Christian god is not real is the long list of petty rules that he made for his chosen people, the Jews, that are prominently displayed in the Old Testament. Here’s a sampling:

Don’t eat pork (Leviticus 11:7-
Don’t eat fat (Leviticus 3:17)
Don’t lie about virginity (Deuteronomy 22:20-21)
Don’t mix meat with dairy (Exodus 23:19)
Don’t wear clothing made of more than one kind of cloth (Leviticus 19:19)
Don’t touch the carcass of a pig (Deuteronomy 14:
Don’t dress across gender lines (Deuteronomy 22:5)
Don’t cut the hair on the side of your head (Leviticus 19:27)
Don’t plant more than one kind of seed in a field (Leviticus 19:19)
Don’t perform ANY work on the Sabbath (Exodus 31:14)
Don’t be a male who is uncircumcised (Genesis 17:14)
Don’t speak in church if you are a woman (1 Corinthians 14:34-35)
These are the types of rules that would be created by anal-retentive men, but they’re not the issues that would concern the creator of the universe. The long litany of petty rules that have no bearing on a person’s character or have any effect on the well-being of other people is persuasive evidence that the Christian god is imaginary.

Okay, and so because of petty rules, God does not exist?

tintingz:
So it's mere words that create tickets for the show or it's mere words that the hall, stage magically form?

They make a living using words. Whatever you want to make of that is your headache ehn.

RuthlessLeader:
They were wiped out due to competition for food and territory. and besides, since god created us from dust, why is there still dust.

Shouldn't we have numerous evidences from the earths crust?

Butterflyleo:
So humans in its current form have only been around for about 200,000 years right?

Based on your comment and the fact that evolution is said to take MILLIONS OF YEARS to occur, we should have INTERMEDIATE SPECIES running around EVERYWHERE. So where are they?

Nash, they're gonna ignore Darwin's suggestions and provide just 1 or 2 extinct species of monkeys.

RuthlessLeader:
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/List_of_transitional_forms#Non-human_primate_to_human I hope this helps.

Wikipedia is co-owned by an atheist, Jimmy wales, an avowed atheist, more desperate than you'll ever be. This is why topics like God, Christianity, theism and related have been compromised on wikipedia.
I mentioned that here: https://www.nairaland.com/2917639/much-better-explanation-evolution
You must be new here.

Now back to the question, give me any 5 transitional fossil that you wish and lets subject it to scrutiny right here based on archeological and historical evidence. That shouldn't be difficult now, would it

RuthlessLeader:
lwkmd, didn`t you already repeat this sentence before, okay why didn`t god make eve conceive jesus to save them from their sins, nothing was stopping him from doing that.

Okay Your Creator needed to do something that makes sense to you, to prove that He exists?

You really think so highly of yourself

dalaman:
Answer the question I asked you.

You ignore my question and create a question for me based on what you think is my opinion?

Are you okay?

RuthlessLeader:
Human (scientific name Homo sapiens sapiens) is the common name of the primate species also known as the East African Plains Ape, the dominant tool-using species on the third planet (counting outwards) of some backwater minor star. Our species has only been on earth in its modern form for about 200,000 years and we evolved from a common ancestor we shared with the chimpanzee o just forget it...

It is very obvious that no matter how much evidence we bring, you won`t accept it, and your pseudo skepticism/intellectualism will make you appear dumber than you really are

No need to call me names


What is the name of this common ancestor and where can we find them?

RuthlessLeader:
Read Isaiah 45:7, god even confirms that he creates evil, so he can`t be all good and all loving right?

He created evil and so he does not exist right?

Butterflyleo:
Lol he wishes to indoctrinate you with his version of atheism lmao

His own version is based on hatred.

Lol. "So you dont want me to believe in God with you", No atheist can answer that question. It will project them as evangelists

RuthlessLeader:
The cumulative effect of prayer is zero
Prayers have been addressed to the Christian god for almost 2000 years and so, given the promises that Jesus made about answering these prayers, we should be able to see the long-term effects of God’s holy mercy and promises kept. But it’s not there. The following is an excerpt from an essay on:

http://new.exchristian.net/2015/11/were-on-our-own.html

So where is this God? Where is the God of the parking spaces and the greeting cards when 150 human beings are being senselessly butchered in the name of religion? Where is the net result of 2.4 billion prayers? Where is the result of 2,000 years worth of prayer? If this God existed and deigned to answer prayer, this planet would be completely different. But look around. Look for those answers. There are none.

We are on our own, people. There is no God out there. It’s time to finally come to terms with that, as a species. It’s time to stop praying and start taking matters into our own hands. The only ones who can save the humans are the humans. We must be our own salvation…

Everytime I think of Paris I get so f*cking angry. Religion did this. What is ISIS if not religion out of control? Religion has been killing humans ever since humans had religion.

Enough is enough.

So get your head out of your own ass. This ain’t no fuckin’ fairy tale. We are on our own…

The author of this piece is the proverbial boy stating that the emperor is naked, while everyone else is pretending to see his glorious garments. The evidence is irrefutable- 2000 years of prayers should have made a big difference, and the world would be a very different place if Christianity or any other religion was true. The sooner we realize we are on our own, the better chance we will have to make the world a decent place to live.

You're really a fresh atheist.

Else you should know better, no atheist here will say religion has cause more deaths that atheism, not after the numerous historical evidence we've provided.

RuthlessLeader:
ButterflyLeo and winner01, if christianity is the true religion why did god fail with judaism, isn`t he supposed to be perfect and omniscient, in fact why didn`t god just make adam and eve give birth to jesus to save them from their sins and free us all this wahala.

lol, I'm not here to debate Christianity with you, if you go through my threads, you'll know that. You'll need to be spiritually aware before I can discuss such topic with you.

I'm here for the numerous inconsistencies of atheism
So how did humans get here and why are atheists running from this question?

RuthlessLeader:
The cumulative effect of prayer is zero
Prayers have been addressed to the Christian god for almost 2000 years and so, given the promises that Jesus made about answering these prayers, we should be able to see the long-term effects of God’s holy mercy and promises kept. But it’s not there. The following is an excerpt from an essay on:

http://new.exchristian.net/2015/11/were-on-our-own.html

So where is this God? Where is the God of the parking spaces and the greeting cards when 150 human beings are being senselessly butchered in the name of religion? Where is the net result of 2.4 billion prayers? Where is the result of 2,000 years worth of prayer? If this God existed and deigned to answer prayer, this planet would be completely different. But look around. Look for those answers. There are none.

We are on our own, people. There is no God out there. It’s time to finally come to terms with that, as a species. It’s time to stop praying and start taking matters into our own hands. The only ones who can save the humans are the humans. We must be our own salvation…

Everytime I think of Paris I get so f*cking angry. Religion did this. What is ISIS if not religion out of control? Religion has been killing humans ever since humans had religion.

Enough is enough.

So get your head out of your own ass. This ain’t no fuckin’ fairy tale. We are on our own…

The author of this piece is the proverbial boy stating that the emperor is naked, while everyone else is pretending to see his glorious garments. The evidence is irrefutable- 2000 years of prayers should have made a big difference, and the world would be a very different place if Christianity or any other religion was true. The sooner we realize we are on our own, the better chance we will have to make the world a decent place to live.

Still Horseshoe*t.

How did humans get here? Why are atheists avoiding this question?

RuthlessLeader:
When confronted with the size and scale of the universe and the myriad forms of evil, disasters, pain, and suffering, it doesn’t take a genius to realize that the world described by Christianity does not match the world in which we live.

Because evil exist, God does not exist?

dalaman:
Do you believe that Yahweh created humans or not? Are you trying to throw him under the bus?

lol, you can't cross the redline shey

RuthlessLeader:
I`m saying that the god you believe in does not exist and even if he does, I would never want to worship and praise his barbaric character. I know you can`t justify anything i wrote up there so you are doing this. This just means that on some level you know your god is morally inferior to you. why don`t you just give him up? You won`t die, there is nothing to be afraid of, no devil will come for you in the night and your life will not get worse than it already is.

So you do not want me to believe in God?

hopefulLandlord:
Lmao! I wonder why Christians are still putting their nose on the grindstone just like the heathens when all they have to do is speak money into their hands and foods into their stomachs, maybe speak babies into existence rather than go through the laborious sex and 9 moths discomfort punctuated by excruciating labour or speak healthy teeth into their mouth instead of going to the dentist or speak Leah Sheribu out of captivity

Are you saying all the Christians of the bible spoke every single into existence?

dalaman:
. Perfect response. He doesn't know how idiotic he sounds.

Mere words creates a living for comedians, you have not disproved this.

dalaman:
They believe they are special because they were indoctrinated and made to accept ancient Jewish mythology and fiction.

Relax and breathe.

What is the evidential history for humans?