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Gggg102:
then you believe the fact?

dalaman:
No God can do anything to me because all God's are imaginary man made ideas and concepts.

dalaman:
Allah of the Koran is the almighty God according to Muslims are they right?

dalaman:
Allah is the almighty God according to them. Are they right?

dalaman:
That remains your imaginations and fantasy. No go get heart attack because of me.

dalaman:
. Ogbeni no go get heart attack because of me oo.

dalaman:
Ogbeni be quiet. According to close to tw billion Muslims, Allah is the only God. Over a Billion Hindus say it is Brahma, why are they all wrong?

KingEbukasBlog:
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jonbellion:
this guy is really obsessed with atheism
He has probably switched sides

CAPSLOCKED:


PRACTICAL CHRISTIAN CUrNT!
SWIFT TO RAIN INSULTS EVEN WHEN NOT CALLED UPON.

I'M NOT IN THE GAME TO BARGAIN THIS FOOLISHNESS WITH YOU.

NOT TODAY, AT LEAST.

Possibly could. Although this post suggests life is pointless if there is no God, but why can't the purpose of your life he just to live your life and make the best of it lol.

dalaman:
Ogbeni na wetin na? Na wah ooo.

KingEbukaNaija:
Only Jesus can save

marttol:
Jesus is the God of gods

GoodMuyis:
But for the record, it will be in the history that atheist reason to Hope failed.

Even if the Australian atheists care to attend that will be a good number in hundreds.

Even yourself knew atheism is hopelessness, with the fact that atheist admitted that life is purposeless, just live and die. Where is the hope?

lordm:
Not all questions are meant to be answered,

Martinez19:
ibo

Emmanystone:
An unbeliever will preach unbelieving to me to unbelief?

I will laugh him to scorn.

I will begin by sharing my testimony and wait for him to destroy or disprove it, if he can do that, he may have my attention.

If he can tell me why i have the kind of peace and joy i have now in the midst of turbulence and crisis, i'd listen to him.

If he can explain to me why all of a sudden i longer fear death and actually looking forward to it, then may listen to him preach his unbelief. Hahahahahahahahaha

dalaman:
Which God? Yahweh, Odin, Amun Ra, Brahma, Allah, Zues? Which of them?

AnonyNymous:
I'm non religious but not an atheist, and I wholly agree with some aspects of what he was saying, for example the new testament has some very good lessons on morality, though I find some of the levels of pacifism to be too extreme to function in modern society (turn the other cheek when slapped). Since the new testament is where Christians base their faith on, it's fine. I realized this later on and some of my moral guidelines do come from the new testament as with other religious books.

But saying that forming moral guidelines needs to come from religion is something I disagree with, because even modern Christians also leave out some portions of the bible when choosing what their moral guidelines need to be, its this common sense that makes them know that murder is not an appropriate punishment for rude children as we see in the bible. I think moral guidelines can come from anything that the two parties involved consent too, and which doesn't affect any other human being negatively. If we look at the ten commandments, all of them fit in with this rule. Historically humans have had one form of push for human rights, law, and order or the other even before Christianity. Though some laws in the past were primitive but they've evolved over time.

On the other hand, the old testament has so many negative lessons and horrid atrocities committed in the name of the god they believe in- leaving you wondering if it really is the same deity that was being worshipped in both parts of the bible.

Still on morality, he mentioned that the vast majority of people would be lost without religion, and I agree with that. Religion teaches community, relationships, etc and so it helps people understand why they should want to do things that wouldn't harm their fellow man. Without religion, a guy working a job with long days and long nights with no time to even talk to anyone might lose sight of the reason why he needs to live in a way that's beneficial or at the very least, tolerable by his fellow man. I think its less about the 'moral compass' because if we take Muslims as a case study, there's so much supported violence in their religion and yet, a lot of them are peaceful- they've learned the value of community simply by meeting together and congregating regularly and the friendships and loved ones they meet along the way is enough reason to behave properly.

Another part from that message that made sense was where he said Judeo-Christian religion held western civilization together, which is very true. Though its a movie and not 100% historically accurate, from DaVinci's Demons we could see how historically warring Italian city-states all agreed to unite to defend themselves from the onslaught of Muslims from Eastern Europe who were looking to pillage and cause destruction in the name of their prophet.

But a grouse I have with the op is his constant idea of picking out achievements done by Christians and attributing it to Christianity, which is ridiculous. Its no different from the retards in the politics section who look for successful people of their ethnic group and attribute their success to their origin.
Religion doesn't even teach logical reasoning, it teaches faith, and the scientific process has little or nothing to do with faith (little because at times scientists make guesses and hope they're right, but then again these are educated guesses from verifiable data).

Religion also does provide stability to people's lives because at the very least it gives them somewhere to tick when they fill out employment forms, lol . And less strange looks from people. Its also a reason why I'm considering becoming a Quaker because they are legally recognized as Christians but they have so many denominations including the non-theist Quakers who place emphasis on morality and being useful to community, which is a great idea. The last time I was in the United States I attended a Quaker fellowship (the people I stayed with were Quakers) and the 'service' was simply a two hour silence and reflecting on how you've been able to add positive values to people's lives during the week, thinking about the things you've done wrong, etc. Then after service everyone could meet with each other for help, from hard tasks to simple tasks like assistance with fixing bicycles. Everyone also brought food they could afford for the less privileged to have something to eat, and it was then I realized the immense value of community in developing morality. And I realized I needed to do more in terms of being a positive member of society.

That's all I have to say.

budaatum:
Yes I do, as I stated in the first post I posted on it. But its a good thing. As it provoked the opinion that I worthily expressed.

hopefulLandlord:
okay

HappyPagan:
Common trend... let's talk about butterflies then, shall we?