Christianity Etc › Re: 10 Common Fallacies in religion that makes atheists disbelieve Religion. by Workch(op): 10:55am On Nov 03, 2021 |
XXXXTENTACION: Henceforth I Will have to ignore that madman...  What has this thread got to do with Robots and Manequins....  Logic like someone who didn’t do primary 2 mathematics. Even my 5years son won’t make those nonsense up  |
Christianity Etc › Re: 10 Common Fallacies in religion that makes atheists disbelieve Religion. by Workch(op): 10:49am On Nov 03, 2021 |
XXXXTENTACION: What are you even saying...  the post is about logical fallacies and you are talking of A.I and Robots... Did anybody ask you anything on Robots... 
workch are you sure this dude is okay...  Its another fallacy I didn’t add. strawman fallacy. He’s not okay bros. Just let him be and wait for more logical people. Every single post that dude makes, you can spot a fallacy.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Hello!! Atheists by Workch: 10:45am On Nov 03, 2021 |
Dliquidmetal: Nothing to see here,bucket of turd as usual. Dtruthspeaker is the owner of the moniker. It’s obvious |
Christianity Etc › Re: 10 Common Fallacies in religion that makes atheists disbelieve Religion. by Workch(op): 10:43am On Nov 03, 2021 |
Dtruthspeaker: Thanks be to The Creator that you have made your own creation "who is after your own image and likeness". What you call A.I Robots and Mannequins.
Do your robots care to know you? No!
ALL IT CARES FOR IS THAT IT "LIVES" EXACTLY AS YOU ARE TO YOUR OWN CREATOR!
AND JUST LIKE YOU, ITS CREATOR CAN TAKE AWAY ITS LIFE AT YOUR PLEASURE, SO ALSO DOES YOUR CREATOR HAVE THAT RIGHT ALSO! 1 - 1! So you cannot see the fallacy in this argument?  |
Christianity Etc › Re: 10 Common Fallacies in religion that makes atheists disbelieve Religion. by Workch(op): 10:40am On Nov 03, 2021 |
XXXXTENTACION: In order to prove that he is smart he ended up showcasing his stupidity....  How the Bleep do you compare a living thing with a non living thing...  Thats why I can never take religion seriously if the likes of Dtruthspeaker is the best they can offer to defend religion. What a wack logic, I should show him where Camry sued Toyota.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: 10 Common Fallacies in religion that makes atheists disbelieve Religion. by Workch(op): 10:38am On Nov 03, 2021 |
Dtruthspeaker: Olodo! Is that not what you The Creator of your new A.I Robots and Mannequins wiil say to them?
Like, you the moronic Robot "DOES NOT KNOW THAT! ALL IT CARES FOR IS THAT IT "LIVES" EXACTLY AS YOU THINK!
AND JUST LIKE YOU UNPLUG ITS POWER BATTERY, SO ALSO DOES YOUR CREATOR UNPLUG YOUR POWER BATTERY AND YOU DIE! 1 - 1! lol,  |
Christianity Etc › Re: 10 Common Fallacies in religion that makes atheists disbelieve Religion. by Workch(op): 10:32am On Nov 03, 2021 |
XXXXTENTACION: Idiot is camry a living thing  is samsung a living thing  comparing a non-living thing versus a living thing is fallacy of false equivalance.... you have just proved the o.p to be correct...  Dtruthspeaker is a slowpoke. Creating more and more fallacies. Does cars have consciousness? How can a car that doesn’t have consciousness like humans sue his maker? Faulty equivalence and stupidity in one place :S |
Christianity Etc › Re: 10 Common Fallacies in religion that makes atheists disbelieve Religion. by Workch(op): 10:26am On Nov 03, 2021*. Modified: 9:26pm On Nov 03, 2021 |
Dtruthspeaker: This is the case of EPA (creation human) vs. TOYOTA MOTOR COMPANY (another creation, human)
Human vs. Human fight.
Not Corrolla vs. Toyoda fight! Do cars have consciousness like humans? You are still committing the fallacy of faulty equivalence. Or you stupid or what? |
Christianity Etc › Re: 10 Common Fallacies in religion that makes atheists disbelieve Religion. by Workch(op): 10:17am On Nov 03, 2021 |
Dtruthspeaker: WHAT DO YOU THINK THE LAWS OF LOGIC AND FALLS AKA 'FALLACY' ARE MEANT TO DO AND ACHIEVE?
ANSWER= THE PROTECTION AND SAFEGUARDING OF NATURE AND NATURAL TRUTHS.
LOGIC IS THE POLICE/CUSTOMS & IMMIGRATION/NAFDAC/NDLEA/EFCC OF TRUTH
They do not teach that in textbooks in school ONLY PROFESSIONALS LEARN IT.
Fault- Presence of reasonable defect.
Unfaulty Equivalence is NO FALLACY.
NATURE'S, NATURALTRUTH!
EVER SEEN A CREATION OR PRODUCT COMPLAIN OR SUE ITS MANUFACTURER?
Did the Camry sue Mr Toyoda or the laptop, Samsung?
No! Nada! Never! 'Impossibe'. NATURE SAYS!
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Christianity Etc › 10 Common Fallacies in religion that makes atheists disbelieve Religion. by Workch(op): 9:44am On Nov 03, 2021*. Modified: 10:11am On Nov 03, 2021 |
WE have numerous fallacies that religious people often commit, it seems to me that one attribute of a religious person is their total lack of philosophy and logic knowledge, hence the inability spot logical fallacies in their points. Of the many fallacies that they commit, I will list 10.
1. Appealing to Ignorance e.g. i. No one knows how the universe actually started hence god must of done it. ii. We don’t have the ability to know everything, there are some things that are beyond our understanding. Logical position: Becasue we don’t know now doesn’t mean we won’t find out tomorrow. Ignorance of the topic is not evidence for god.
2. Fallacy of begging the question. E.g. I. Noah’s flood is right because the Bible said it.
Logical position: You can’t use the Bible to say the claims of the Bible is right, you have to find evidence to justify those claims outside of the Bible.
3. Argumentum ad Arboretum. E.g. I. Everything you see around you is evidence for god, the trees, planets and all of nature. They cannot exist on their own.
Logical position: The existence of nature is evidence that nature exist and not for god.
4. Appealing to authority E.g. Newton was a Christian and he said scientists are only discovering the works of the creator. Logical position: did newton provide evidence for this claim? If he didn’t then we will only take those things he provided evidence for and wait for evidence others to suffice.
5. Tu quoque (whatabaoutism) E.g. Science is also based on beliefs, hypothesis are made from beliefs.
Logical position: Whether or not science is based on beliefs, it’s not evidence that a god exist. (Budatum committed this fallacy not too long ago.)
6. Special pleading fallacy E.g. According to the cause and effect law, everything must have a cause including the universe, hence the ultimate cause must be god.
Logical position: Why must the cause be your god and who created your god? If your god cannot be created then why can’t the universe also exist without a creator? Why must you special plead your god from the law?
7. Argumentum ad populum (appealing to population) E.g. There are more religious people than atheists, it means that the concept of a god is true. If it’s not true then why do so much people conceive it?
Logical position: Because so many hold a belief doesn’t make it true. We still require evidence to justify it even if the whole world believes it.
8. Ad hominem E.g. A fool says in his heart that there’s no god.
Logical position: they are not fools because they don’t believe your claims. You need to provide evidence to convince them.
9. Fallacy of faulty equivalence E.g. If a car can have a creator then the universe must have a creator which is god.
Logical position: We know the producers of cars, we know the factories, we know the engineers, we can meet them physically and we can even sue them if they make faulty cars. This cannot be applied to your god, it’s a faulty equivalence. We cannot sue your god for making cancer cells or earthquakes. Dtruthspeaker is fond of this fallacy.
10. Circular reasoning. E.g. : The Bible is true, so you should not doubt the Word of God.
Logical position: This argument rests on your prior acceptance of the Bible as truth even without any evidence that it’s true. You started with what you wanted to end the argument with.
I will add an important one.
Fallacy of shifting the burden of proof. E.g. Can you prove that god doesn’t exist?
Logical position: No I can’t, same way I cannot prove that unicorns and the Flying Spaghetti Monster doesn’t exist. They burden of proof is on those that claim that they exist.
We atheists hope that you can be more logical in your arguments so we can take you more seriously. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Women In Hell For MouthAction,doggie Style And Woman On Top by Workch: 7:12pm On Nov 02, 2021 |
Dude take your drug |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witness Leaders Are Clowns - Just Watch by Workch: 11:43am On Nov 02, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse is one of them. Dude is the biggest clown on this page |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Very Religious Countries More Corrupt Than Less Religious Countries? by Workch(op): 10:54am On Nov 02, 2021 |
Dliquidmetal: Wow!!! It took a lot of sacrifices,that explains why this "Thedishonestspeaker" cant afford to reason beyond his indoctrination.....I would do myself well by not engaging in further exchanges with him henceforth cause it's pointless really because I've been there myself. He is not just indoctrinated, he’s stupid as well. You can see how is struggling to get attention here so he can have a never ending argument. I’m glad everyone is avoiding the fool |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Very Religious Countries More Corrupt Than Less Religious Countries? by Workch(op): 9:39am On Nov 02, 2021 |
Bacteriologist: You will never catch me responding to him. Him and his type have proven countless times that it is a total waste of effort and time trying to reason with them.
Religion is a mental virus. Yeah, I have also adopted that strategy. Avoid a mad man when you see one. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Very Religious Countries More Corrupt Than Less Religious Countries? by Workch(op): 8:23am On Nov 02, 2021 |
Dliquidmetal: it's a very very lucrative business I tell you with a very super risk to reward ratio but I'm not down to manipulating vulnerable people for my own benefits. Religion doesn't make people morally upright,those gods of men aren't upright but dubious businessmen and I cant join league. Lol, a business where those you scam will even defend you. Even the law got your back  Damn |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Very Religious Countries More Corrupt Than Less Religious Countries? by Workch(op): 8:16am On Nov 02, 2021 |
Dliquidmetal:
it's mostly cause of hypocrisy and to me religion is a tool that humans created for their own benefits but majority of present day humans aren't even enlightened enough to see through this grand delusion. Christian's for examples are very good when it comes to picking different parts of their "unholy book" that's suits/justifies whatever bullshit they did or about to do. Religion isnt really a scam,its simply a tool in my own perspective,that's why Nigeria is the way it is lol the more religois we we claim to be the more we would be manipulated and oppressed by our leaders cause they know this things to the core. Many of them are closet atheists but outside they feign religious lmao just to keep enriching themselves and continuously basking in the euphoria of being powerful. I feel so myself. I think I should also open a church to deceive all these gullible Christians. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Six Billion People Watched Pastor Chris O. Healing Stream by Workch: 8:23pm On Nov 01, 2021 |
They never grow amputated limbs. Scammers
Only miracles we cannot verify is what they perfrom. Liars, the population of the world is less than 8bilion. |
Christianity Etc › Why Are Very Religious Countries More Corrupt Than Less Religious Countries? by Workch(op): 6:56pm On Nov 01, 2021 |
Some religious conservatives warn that the retreat from faith will lead to a collapse of social cohesion and public morality, the evidence doesn’t support this claim. Surprising as it may seem, countries that are less religious actually tend to be less corrupt and have lower murder rates than religious ones.
Each year, Transparency International publishes a Corruption Perception Index that ranks public-sector corruption in 180 countries and territories. Is corruption less widespread in religious countries than less religious ones? The answer is an unequivocal “no”—in fact, religious countries actually tend to be more corrupt than secular ones. This study shows that New Zealand, Denmark, Finland and Switzerland are the least corrupt counties in 2020. According to a study conducted in 2018, almost 50% of people in New Zealand said they don’t gave a religion.
So the question now become, why religious countries are the most corrupt and irreligious countries are more moral despite the fact that religion claim to preach morality? Look at Nigeria for example, about 95% religious but nothing to write home about in terms of morals. Why? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Workch: 6:37pm On Nov 01, 2021 |
Tobedated: i guess you're right coz there hasn't been a reply from them I am so sure. That’s why it’s called religion, you don’t need evidence to believe it. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Workch: 1:22pm On Nov 01, 2021 |
Tobedated: Hey bros let solve dis once and for all theist bring proof dat god exist from outside of your religion that is from the world a good firm proof dat atheist bring proof y you disagree then atheist bring your proof dat god doesn't exist and let the theist oppose it let the debate begin theist first Theists don’t have any evidence |
Christianity Etc › Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Workch: 9:58am On Nov 01, 2021 |
Nothingserious: E shock you abi?
Joke was on you. I said “literate”.
Oh poor boy! Cry me a river. Come back here next time to boast about your science profile and see me tear you to shreds. Alright don’t distract us from evidence?  I’m begging you to provide one |
Christianity Etc › Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Workch: 9:04am On Nov 01, 2021 |
Nothingserious: You wanted to type literate right? Lol
I don’t like bragging. I hate that you had bragged from day one. Not good enough.
I didn’t stop at the Sec school. I was also taught materials science, strength, thermo, analysis, structures, fluid. Maybe you had thought I was a pastor.
Just focus on issues at discuss when we talk okay. Drop your science profiles by the side. Mumu doesn’t get sarcasm? No wonder he’s a religious fanatic. Can’t get simple sarcasm.  There’s nothing brag about, your head is empty |
Christianity Etc › Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Workch: 8:50am On Nov 01, 2021 |
Nothingserious: When I was reading Holderness and Lambert, Nelkon, Okeke and Anyakoha, Ababio, Stones, you were probably still running around naked.
Shut up and stop all the emotional tantrums foolish boy. so how come you are This illiterate?  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Workch: 8:49am On Nov 01, 2021 |
Nothingserious: Kingsamx is reasonable and does better Job than you despite our varying worldviews.
You? I just use you to catch cruise. Silly little boy. The butterfly thinks himself a bird~(The Gods are not to blame) Shut up and provide evidence. I don’t have patience for religious fools like you |
Christianity Etc › Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Workch: 8:31am On Nov 01, 2021 |
Nothingserious: Did I abuse you? Maybe I needed to remind you one of those motion ( Newtonian laws) that talks about action and reaction being equal and opposite. I present back to you what you push to me. That shouldn’t bother you.
That said, I was thinking you would be smart enough to read the quote and mirror your position in there. It’s a shame you don’t understand it.
That about summarizes you and your position. Cheers Shut up, what do you know about Newtonian law? Illiterate using a scientific law out of context |
Christianity Etc › Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Workch: 8:31am On Nov 01, 2021 |
Nothingserious: I am disappointed in you. I gave you a quote from a respected intellectual who happens to share same worldview with you. In your characteristic self, you assumed a pastor wrote it. Lol
Abeg go and rest. That quote summarizes your struggle. I will allow you secretly check it out in the next few days, read it, regurgitate it , assimilate it, internalize it and then respond from a point of knowledge.
See you next time. Loser, provide evidence and see me bow out in shame  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is Speaking In This Verse? Mature Replies Only! by Workch: 6:50am On Nov 01, 2021 |
johnw47: ha ha, like blasphemer janosky all you have is your repeated gibberish such a dum dum Christians are still clowns |
Christianity Etc › Re: God And Science. by Workch: 11:25pm On Oct 31, 2021 |
budaatum: Well, I guess you can pity me as I go sit on the bridges I built with my "how it works", and not with stupid beliefs.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: God And Science. by Workch: 11:23pm On Oct 31, 2021 |
budaatum: That's the thing with you. You claim to know about the scientific method but probably only apply it in your profession.
Please stop insulting buda by claiming buda believes! Only stupid people believe what they can't bother to do the work to check if their beliefs are true or not. And if they did check, or observe as you'd say, or apply the scientific method to their ignorant belief, they'd stop believing and instead actually know!
P.s. Do know that I am not responding only because of you. Just that you've provided a board for me to write what I'm certain others would read too. lol |
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is Speaking In This Verse? Mature Replies Only! by Workch: 11:23pm On Oct 31, 2021 |
johnw47: you repeat that again, do you really think i or other christians care about the hate from a antichrist tell lost blasphemer janosky, he agrees with a antichristian/antichrist like you, and considers him a brother , of course Christians are clowns |
Christianity Etc › Re: God And Science. by Workch: 11:16pm On Oct 31, 2021 |
budaatum: I agree.
If I make a prediction and do not then go and check if my prediction is true or false and I believe either way, I, buda, is very very stupid and dumb and ignorant!
Hope that's clear enough. You are proudly scientifically illiterate. You don’t know jack how it works and you don’t want to learn. I pity you |
Christianity Etc › Re: God And Science. by Workch: 11:12pm On Oct 31, 2021 |
budaatum: Why do you keep doing this workch? You keep saying "you guys", as if you can't see the individual! Perhaps you don't see or something, or how can I repeatedly be referring to believing Adam as an ignorant stupid slave, and then claim one must believe instead of actually opening ones own eyes and other senses to check and see for for oneself? Is open your eyes and senses not the very first step in science? Can one do science without opening one's eyes to actually look and see? Can you not apply your 13 years of science instead of stupidly believing without actually checking your hypothesis? Do I need to post links of posts of mine where I claim believing without checking or observing, as you'd say, is ignorant and stupid?
The imaginary Adam we read about believed without testing if his beliefs were true or not, and that's why he remained stupid and ignorant and enslaved in the Garden of Eden. Eve, on the other hand, did science to check the hypothesis that states: "on the day that you eat you shall surely die". We shall consider what she discovered on testing once we get over your "you guys" hypothesis!
A hypothesis is not a belief. A belief is an untested hypothesis however. It's like hypothesising that [i]I. If we find the edge of earth, then it means that earth is flat (independent variable)[/i], and then not II. The higher the altitude we travel, the likely that we see that earth is flat (dependent variable), but instead believing the earth is flat. If buda does that with anything, and I mean anything at all, including ignorantly assuming anything about you without first checking, please command buda to shoot buda dead, because that buda does not deserve to live!
Please know that if I build a bridge on a belief that it would stand and span where I'm building it, I would not now be retired and enjoying what I got paid for building bridges! No one would have paid me to build an ordinary foot path on some stupid ignorant untested belief or an untested hypothesis!
Below is my response to a person who thinks one should believe physics. It might help you understand better. And I've added a link explaining how and why I think believing almost anything without bothering to ask and seek and knock is just dumb!
Do let know me please if you can see, though I can bet my very last pound that the fact I've written it in religionese would likely blind you!
https://www.nairaland.com/5123700/disbelieve-know Dude, I am not in the mood for unnecessary arguments, especially about scientific methods that I understand. Just believe whatever you want. It really doesn’t change anything man. Cheers |