₦airaland Forum

edoairways:
You don't have to believe me because research data are manipulated. You can ask seasoned researchers how they do.

Give me an example of the seasoned researcher I can ask

Thebigheart:
But, are you aware that there is a protest against this vaccine stuff?

Yes, by scientifically illiterate and grossly misinformed people, mostly for religious reasons.

effort1:
Dip your uselss brain in the pit latrine where it belongs

Keep calm. Your mother in law will soon be fine.
I'm not the cause of your misfortune

edoairways:
You mean distorted report or the one they try to hide? They should keep their vaccine instead of enriching some top pharmaceutical companies. The sole aim of forced vaccine is money. I know their tactic very well. Haven't you wonder why the malaria vaccine hasn't been administered yet even though WHO approved it ?

OK, I am going to disbelieve Pfizer peer reviewed study and believe a random Nigerian

Thebigheart:
The is not depriving anyone not to take part in the vaccine but forcing people to take it has an agenda. You discovered in the other news, how they injected ordinary water in the name of administering injection on a patient in Zamfara state. God forbid these Nigerian to give vaccine.

The vaccine is not given by Nigerian government but by WHO and international NGO, government only helps with facilities.

Krismas:
Don’t worry tomorrow or so, I will paste videos. SMH u comparing Covid vaccine to polio. They not the same. Polio vaccine Prevents the virus, it strengthens the body immunity, Covid vaccine on the other hand does not prevent infection, does not prevent transmission, its helpless about the mutants. Covid vaccine even degenerate the body immunity as a study showed in Israel. That persons vaccinated has 80% chance of reinfection to Delta than unvaccinated whos recovered from the disease. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.timesofisrael.com/study-covid-recovery-gave-israelis-longer-lasting-delta-defense-than-vaccines/amp/

Did you read what you posted? Or you just hurriedly cherry picked the part you liked.
Because I also go this from your link

edoairways:
Reported case of people contacting

The study released by Pfizer before the vaccination started already stated that their vaccine has 92% efficacy rate. So no one was expecting everyone to be perfectly covered, the study already stated that. It's expected that the 8% deficit will show

So what's new? What other conspiracies do you have?

edoairways:
The vaccine is not ineffective as there are reported cases of contacting it.

Did you read what you posted?

edoairways:
Have you for once thought why the hurry vaccination? Why the vaccine was hurriedly produced? Why many persons had died from the virus inspite of vaccine?. These are questions that raise suspicious. They should allow malaria vaccine instead of this. WHO just approved this in africa

Yes I have thought of it. To attain herd immunity fast so the virus will not keeping evolving into new strains.

You have an issue with that?

effort1:
Get lost. Empty headed fool

Don't insult the doctor treating your mother in law

effort1:
You quoted me and I replied. Where is the stalking in that?!

You are just using any word that comes to your damaged head without proper reasoning.

And to think you call your reasoning that of a properly educated person.

Alright, can you go treat you mother in-law's adverse vaccine reactions and leave me alone?

effort1:
Illiterate, conspiracy theory.

Stop using words that you don't know jack about.

It exposes your dumbness

OK, you win

effort1:
I expect you to be shifty. Hold firmly to your earlier stupid definition.

Why are you stalking me?
I didn't ask you not to reason like a properly educated person.

effort1:
Why should I give you a load down of everything that happens in my family, you daft?

Conspiracy theory is a lie and they need more lies to cover it.
You are probably doing that

Tdoctor:
Trying to make others sound unlearned will not help your cause. People have heads on their shoulders too, and the scientific discourse has been full of to and fro arguments for centuries, with people on different sides of a scientific divide. We can agree to disagree peacefully. I respect your views, but I do not believe there is sufficient scientific rationale to compel people to take the vaccine. Kindly remember the Tuskgee syphilis study on black men and the one that happened in our own Kano state. Only after many years, did the apologies come. Allow us to disagree with you. This world is a wicked place.

I do not respect your views because you are either not providing evidence for it or willing to access evidence against it.

Your views are not welcomed

Wettoid123:
was the polio vaccine made mandatory that everybody most take It?

And also, BCG vaccine is mandatorily given to any child born in hospital until tommorow.

You don't know this because you are just willingfully ignorant

Tdoctor:
Trying to make others sound unlearned will not help your cause. People have heads on their shoulders too, and the scientific discourse has been full of to and fro arguments for centuries, with people on different sides of a scientific divide. We can agree to disagree peacefully. I respect your views, but I do not believe there is sufficient scientific rationale to compel people to take the vaccine. Kindly remember the Tuskgee syphilis study on black men and the one that happened in our own Kano state. Only after many years, did the apologies come. Allow us to disagree with you. This world is a wicked place.

How else would you learn if up till now you have not asked me why it's scientifically correct to compel people to take vaccine?
You obviously don't want to learn, you are only interested in defending your baseless opinons...

Stop taking me up and down syphilis this and that and learn the basics first

Wettoid123:
was the polio vaccine made mandatory that everybody most take It?

polio vaccine is still mandatory until date. If they don't come to your house, they will go to your children schools

Goldenurch:
That's the shocking part. Something as basic as herd immunity, our people don't understand..

And our pastors who are professionals and doctorate degree holders like Oyakhilome and Enenche aren't helping matters

It's more shocking to know that these things were taught in secondary school biology and everyone who attends secondary school does biology.

Basic terms like immune cells, herd immunity and mutation is now a big problem for most to understand and how it affect vaccinations.

The education is obviously a total waste of time and it's why we cannot excel scientifically in Africa.
I'm done trying to educate ignorant lots.

Tdoctor:
There are a lot of anti-vaxxers round the world. The vaccination refusal is not an African thing. We must resist trying to place others below us because they disagree with us. Try and win through constructive arguments. We have put up an argument, try and deconstruct it.

The vaccinators put a very wrong foot forward and they must reverse it by themselves. Every other thing is story. As long as hunger and minor illnesses have not been addressed in Africa, vaccination will not see the light of day. Our leaders have created severe distrust especially with their hoarding of the palliatives last year, nothing you say will change that. Let them keep the palliatives and the vaccines, we want neither

You are correct and antivaccination campaign is mostly localized in religious enclaves, however it's most severe in Africa.

An antivaxxer is always almost a reglious person or someone who doesn't know basic science and how biology works. We have them all over the world but it's endemic in Africa

Goldenurch:
A Humongous one at that..smh

It's impossible to educate them on basic scientific terms here.

They are feel like they know what they are talking about.

Tdoctor:
Cognitive assonance it is then. Before I go, let me rephrase your statement "You still haven't known why it's scientifically important to force/compel/threaten/arm-twist a good number of citizens to take the vaccine"

The text in bold is why the vaccine is being refused, and the more there are people like you, the more there will be people not like you. Such is life.

I am still waiting for you to ask me why it's important to compel people.
Be willing to accept new information, you can't be a good medical doctor if you can't follow current scientific trends and access more information. Your level of cognitive dissonance is worrisome.

You are not willing to hear any contrary opinion even when has evidence and reason. That's so bad

Goldenurch:
Honestly I don't understand this continent

It's lack of science education and religious indoctrination.

Africa is scientifically illiterate and its a problem

effort1:
And did you follow us to the hospital to know what the medical practitioners told us?

Boy, you are an obstinate idiot.

You didn't say you went to the hospital unless you want to insert the lies here now to win the argument.

I don't care whether or not you win anyway

effort1:
In case you are too stupid to know, an illiterate is someone who can't read or write.

You are an educated illiterate person then

Tdoctor:
Science is not everything. Rationality can lead to great social ills. That is why the argument for/against euthanasia has raged on as every case must be handled individually.
I'm not against the vaccine, I'm against the mandates and what may come after. If volition can be violated, then what else will they not force people to do? It seems you don't want to follow my train of thought, so I guess we should end our banter here. Anti-vaccination is a product of the vaccinators. They caused it by not being transparent. If they want to end the anti-vax movement, they know what to do. Till then, we watch.

You are fixed and I am fixed. Let other readers gather what they can from the discourse.

You still haven't known why it's scientifically important to make the good number of citizens take the vaccine before reaching your conclusions. You are not even willing to know.
Stop the cognitive dissonance

effort1:
And has your daft head queries about the possibility that we have taken her to the hospital?

That's why I told you earlier that you don't know my family more than me.

But I guess the meaningless toga of arrogance you adorn won't allow your brain to function properly.

Your comments doesn't jusfity why you acted like an illiterate person before jumping to conclusions that covid19 vsccine caused your problems

effort1:
Go and check your dictionary for the meaning of illiterate.

Well, it's includes someone who cannot resason versely before reaching a conclusion on issues

Tdoctor:
You vaxxers try to sound more intelligent than others but have no bases for your arguments. If vaccines are forced on people, what else won't be forced? Who gets to decide what will be forced? Will those who force be forced? Or are you unaware of Obama's birthday bash where there was barely any social distancing or mask use? Abeg, leave matter. They should face hunger and unemployment first, and the falling Naira, these things are killing people much faster than COVID. First things first.

You still don't want to know the scientific reason to why people should take the vaccine. You want to cling to your conspiracies, don't defend your conspiracies

I guess you are a medical doctor, am I correct?

effort1:
See the person that thinks he knows. You don't even know the meaning of an illiterate.

I suggest you go back to primary school. That's where your level belongs.

Illiterate, take your mother in law to the hospital and let them check her.

Myopic mind

Angelfrost:
Futuristic?!!... Lol. Please, leave matter.

Shouldn't we be more concerned about being futuristic economically, developmentally, all round healthcare, education, etc...?!!!

All of a Sudden, Covid-19 is where we can solely measure up globally?!! Since when?!!...

Covid-19 is not the first virus, and won't be the last sir.... Vaccination is good, but take a breather especially with regards to this country.

How is the economy related to stopping an evolving virus?

Do you know how 70 million people died in the H1N1 pandemic? They got infected by a very virulent strain of influenza virus that has been evolving.

Your points are not correlating, you are running from pillar to post in a verge to cling to your conspiracies

Tdoctor:
So, it is China that now allows people to report things accurately abi?

OK, how about Isreal, they have vaccinated 80% of their population, France vaccinated 70%.

Why are people not dying there? Are they hoarding the information as well?