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Health / Re: Group Asks Court To Jail JOHESU Officials For Failing To Suspend Strike - Punch by worlexy(m): 5:49pm On May 24, 2018
6inches:
The patient took it along,bro I see more of this all the time, you might be a good doctor but I know what some of your colleagues churn out in the name of prescription.
Next time you see such a prescription pls snap it and use it as an evidence, if you do a thorough investigation you will know that the so called doctor is your fellow johesu
Health / Re: Group Asks Court To Jail JOHESU Officials For Failing To Suspend Strike - Punch by worlexy(m): 5:45pm On May 24, 2018
6inches:
and for your information i inquired about what she was treating she said catarrh,so shut the bleep up.
She's surely one of your pharmacists colleagues or other johesu members impersonating a doctor. Common cold that a year one clinical student will treat while sleeping, it's you people that are half baked and that dabble into what you know nothing about that make such blunders. How will a medical doctor prescribe two different antihistamines for the same patient. Maybe she's a doctor of pharmacy, doctor of optometry or doctor of medical lab
Health / Re: Group Asks Court To Jail JOHESU Officials For Failing To Suspend Strike - Punch by worlexy(m): 3:19pm On May 24, 2018
6inches:
We really have ignorant doctors here. Yesterday I got a prescription, the doctor wrote two anti allergy medication in one prescription plus a cough medicine again who does that. I had to scrutinize it. Some patients prefer coming to ask me whether this medication is safe for use or whether the prescription is right,trust me some Nigerians don't have faith in their doctors, it happens that way.

Below is an incerpt on UK Nhs advising the public to visit pharmacies for minor ailment so as to free up space for the Gp.imagine if everyone go to the hospital to treat skin rash malaria, athlete foot, do you think there would be enough space for you lots to attend to critical cases. Use your head, I just hate how you all reason
Show us the prescription bearing the two anti allergy (of the same class not an anhistamine and a steroid o) or keep quiet
Health / Re: Group Asks Court To Jail JOHESU Officials For Failing To Suspend Strike - Punch by worlexy(m): 3:16pm On May 24, 2018
phaamsaam:

Little wonder patients are killed on an hourly basis in our hospitals due to little medication and regimen errors from I know it all physicians. Seriously we have a long way to go to achieve adequate and standard health care delivery in Nigeria
Back your claim with figures, the causes of death in Nigerian hospitals. The havoc you people cause to the Nigerian population is overwhelming especially to the youths who simply walk up to any pharmaceutical shops without prescriptions and you sell drugs like Codeine, Tramadol, Pentazocin to them thereby increasing the rate of drug abuse and mental illness in Nigeria. BBC findings even showed one you on camera selling cartons of codeine -containing cough mixtures in packs without prescriptions and even boasting about how he sells thousands of cartons in few weeks. Now, is that how you guys plan on improving the health indices of Nigeria? oh I forgot, when things go wrong you blame the doctors and absolves yourselves of blames but when things go right you start boasting that it's because of your input. You know how you guys who are not groomed in the art of making diagnoses are "diagnosing " patients in your shops and stores and doling out antibiotics like pure water thereby causing drug resistance?
Like I said before, go and learn and also focus on your field of training which is to formulate new drugs and improve on the existing ones rather than lying to the public that you're physicians with skills of making diagnoses and when they call you doctors erroneously, you feel on top of the world impersonating what you are not!
Health / Re: Group Asks Court To Jail JOHESU Officials For Failing To Suspend Strike - Punch by worlexy(m): 11:59am On May 24, 2018
sogodihno:
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who is talking about side effect? am talking about possible drug-drug reaction that ONLY a pharmacist can see and call the attention of the physician to it. Why are my wasting my time arguing with you sef, it's pointless since u u claim u know drug more than the pharmacist. Baba enjoy your ignorance. Take care.
Rubbish. Drug interactions is the easiest and simplest thing a medical student knows, oh it's a big thing to you guys. That's why high IQ is a requirement to study medicine
Health / Re: Group Asks Court To Jail JOHESU Officials For Failing To Suspend Strike - Punch by worlexy(m): 11:06am On May 24, 2018
sogodihno:


can u just shut up! is it only dispensing they do? what about reviewing of those drugs before they are dispense,(pharmacy techinician will do that too) only God know the number of patient that would have die, if not for pharmacist that review this drugs and check for unfavourable reactions, of course u won't know, because they won't come to the media to blast it at your face. ignoramus. SMH!
So if a pharmacist checks possible unfavourable drug reactions before dispensing it, what would he do, he won't dispense it right? Stop exposing your ignorance to the whole world. Mention one drug with no possible side effects. if side effects are not possible with any drugs why do we have Pharmacovigilance forms in this country to report possible side effects. Go and learn and stop spewing gibberish
Health / Re: Group Asks Court To Jail JOHESU Officials For Failing To Suspend Strike - Punch by worlexy(m): 9:28am On May 24, 2018
Jman06:
I wouldn't want to go into details with you here, but just know that deaths from those adverse drug reactions could be avoided if you consult your pharmacist before giving those drugs. Thanks

It is only Nigerian physicians that claim more knowledge of drugs than druggists. Physicians in the west know better!!!

No need for further arguments here.
Go and read about the commonest cause of death in the US where you claim there are pharmacists consultants
Health / Re: Group Asks Court To Jail JOHESU Officials For Failing To Suspend Strike - Punch by worlexy(m): 9:08am On May 24, 2018
Amarabae:


You don't understand my point,
We are in Nigeria where there is no strict regulation,
I was talking about simple malaria and typhoid with NO COMPLICATIONS.
I wrote it up there.
Are you telling me that Many Nigerians who treated themselves of malaria and typhoid went to a hospital and met a doctor?
They only go if after buying drugs from pharmacy and it didn't go.
Many Nigerians when sick love to patronize private medical laboratory and then head to a pharmacy with the test results,
They find it cheaper.
And it is working well for MANY!
Unless the issue is a complicated one.
That's my point

Now I get you, but a patient may not know when a typhoid is getting complicated(so hospital should still be the first point of call) , there have been many cases of Typhoid causing intestinal perforations and leading to death, also there have been many cases of some ppl who had cancer presenting with fever and body weakness and instead of going to the hospital, they were busy using antimalaria and antibiotics based on the so called lab results diagnosing them of malaria and typhoid.
We should learn to do the right thing if we want to move forward in this country!
Health / Re: Group Asks Court To Jail JOHESU Officials For Failing To Suspend Strike - Punch by worlexy(m): 8:57am On May 24, 2018
Jman06:
You were making sense until the last paragraph of your post where you displayed a gross lack of knowledge of the roles of pharmacists in healthcare delivery!

You should have just done a little research on the roles of pharmacists in those two countries you cited as focal points and in other developed countries of the world.

For your information, Pharmacists do not only dispense drugs in those countries, they are involved in direct patients contacts through ward rounds and counseling. They check physicians' prescription errors, drug-drug interactions, drug-food interactions, drug-disease interaction, and other possible interactions that could occur in the course of pharmacotherapy.
Ever asked yourself why Nigerian healthcare system remains abysmally poor despite government's investments and medical doctors being at the helm of affairs since Some of the reasons can be traced to other healthcare professionals like pharmacists not being allowed to put in their bests in patients care. How i wish that Nigeria could make autopsies compulsory before those who died in hospitals are interred. That will reveal so much about how Nigerians die avoidable deaths from drug errors and improper use of drugs when they go to hospitals.
Take a scenario such as this: An epileptic patient who is suffering from lower respiratory tract infection at the same time, he goes to the hospital and the physician prescribed a combination of erythromycin (an antibiotics for his infection) and then carbamazepine (an anti epileptic). Assuming there is no pharmacist around to correct such wrong combination, do you know that the patient would come down with carbamazepine toxicity with the resultant organ failures leading to his death This is just a tip of the iceberg!! Several of these interactions occur both in inpatient and outpatient settings and has led to the death of many!

Haven't you heard of cases where a man left his house to the hospital just to get treated of minor ailment only to die in the hospital following administration of some drugs prescribed by the physician Drugs are very dangerous substance that can either save a man if judiciously used, or KILL him if wrongly used. Pharmacists know drugs and their actions better than physicians as a matter of fact.
Knowledge of pharmacology which physicians have is not enough to make rational drug decisions since the important concepts of pharmacokinetics and pharmacodynamics are not discussed in details in most pharmacology textbooks, hence pharmacists study them further in clinical pharmacy. Some physicians i.e clinical pharmacologists may have some knowledge in this regard, but mainly for the purposes of research and teaching, besides they are very few.
So, the role of Pharmacists in hospitals cannot be overemphasized. If not, the developed nations you cited in your post wouldn't recognize them as key stakeholders in their hospitals to the extent of appointing them as CONSULTANTS.

N:B, I'm a pharmacist in training and my interest is not in hospital pharmacy but in pharmaceutical manufacturing industry. However, the truth has to always be stated regardless of our biases.

Your last paragraph sum it up that you're in training so I pardon your ignorance. First in the case of Erythromycin and carbamazepin that you cited. A 400L medical student knows the basic things about enzyme inducers and inhibitors and drug interactions so what gibberish are you talking about?
second you said a patient was given a drug in the hospital by physicians and the patient died, so you don't know about Adverse drug reaction, or anaphylaxis which can happen to anybody as a reaction to drug, don't people have natural atopy and allergic reaction like asthma that has killed them? Some people even have food allergy.
if Adverse drug reaction is not a possibility with some medication why did NAFDAC bring about pharmacovigilance form?

Like I said, I pardon your ignorance because you're still a student. Study hard, I wish you the best

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Health / Re: Group Asks Court To Jail JOHESU Officials For Failing To Suspend Strike - Punch by worlexy(m): 8:39am On May 24, 2018
Amarabae:

So if someone wakes up and start feeling sick, he goes to a private medical laboratory where they for instance will be diagnosed with malaria and typhoid.
He takes the test results to a private big pharmacy and the pharmacist there look at the test result and prescribe drugs for him.
What's wrong with that?
Doctors arrogance is the root cause of all this mess in the health sector,
N.M.A attempts to rubbish the pharmacy profession will continue to fail,
I see it as insecurity,
Yes pharmacists prescribe and treat non complicated health cases in their pharmacy,
Hug a transformer if you want.
Now I see how ignorant you are and that's the problem we have in this country, when ignorant people think that they know it all. Now lemme educate you, fine the person may be positive for malaria like you said but was any physical examination done on him, was he checked for anemia, jaundice, he is having an ailment that can mimick or coexist with malaria. What test did they do to confirm that he had typhoid, Widal test? Widal is not a useful test, even you not having typhoid or typhoid symptoms will have those titres in your body. There's a normal sequence that treatment should follow, doctor to lab to doctor to pharmacy. In developed worlds your license as a pharmacist will be revoked for prescribing antibiotics without a doctors prescriptions.
Lastly, if you've not learnt anything today learn this: You don't treat a lab result, you treat the patient (after a thorough clerking, physical examination, making a diagnosis and having differential diagnosis in mind, then to the lab to either confirm your differentials or rule it out, then you prescribe drugs)
Health / Re: Group Asks Court To Jail JOHESU Officials For Failing To Suspend Strike - Punch by worlexy(m): 7:50am On May 24, 2018
Danaire:


Don't be an ignoramus by ur comment. Why did you further ur education from primary to tetiary level, if you did? Why did ur older sibling(s), that is if you're not the oldest, not stop you from becoming a graduate like them so they only can be called & reffered to as the only graduates of ur father's children, that is if you are? When you make demands about ur education to ur father, do you stop ur older or younger sibling(s) from making their demands just so that urs only must/will be met?
Think well with ur brain. JOHESU's demand is not somuch as about the monetary value only but it is all encompassing.
I have thought very well with my brain, it's you that should do the same. what will be the job of a pharmacist consultant in the hospital, is it to continue dispensing drugs like he has always done or does he want to start attending to patients and prescribing his own drugs? Will that not be the beginning of anarchy in the hospital? Your doctor writes drug A for you and your pharmacist changes your drug to B just because he feels he is a consultant too, will that not bring about problems. Go to most pharmaceutical shops outside the hospitals now you will see them attending to patients and prescribing drugs, is that how it is done in sane environment? And if you say they won't be changing doctor's prescriptions if they become consultants then why do they want to become consultants if the only job they do in the hospital is to dispense drugs? They should go and become consultants in pharmaceutical and research industry where they can use their knowledge to formulate new and effective drugs. Cos as it is today, pharmacy technician can effectively do the job of dispensing in the hospitals

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Health / Re: Group Asks Court To Jail JOHESU Officials For Failing To Suspend Strike - Punch by worlexy(m): 7:36am On May 24, 2018
ozo13:
I have it on my fone in PDF format.I don't know how I can send it
worlexy@yahoo.com
Please send it to my email. Thanks
Health / Re: Group Asks Court To Jail JOHESU Officials For Failing To Suspend Strike - Punch by worlexy(m): 11:40pm On May 23, 2018
ozo13:
Hmmm
please give me the link to download this stuff. is this the yayale they've been talking about
Health / Re: Group Asks Court To Jail JOHESU Officials For Failing To Suspend Strike - Punch by worlexy(m): 11:14pm On May 23, 2018
DrAdonis:
This whole JOHESU thing is tiring. They are just fighting an unjust battle which is an eternally lost one. They just want to further destroy the healthcare in Nigeria.

Let me just explain one or two of what they are clamouring for to those that are not very medically inclined

1. Just because doctors are appointed consultants, they want same. Let us examine who a consultant is in the hospital setting and his responsibilities.

A consultant is a medical doctor who finished medical school, did housemanship and NYSC then writes an exam called primaries which is very tough and competitive with an average pass rate of 20% (not cause majority fail but they choose the top scores as pass) then work as a medical officer for varying years (some more than 10 years) before starting residency. The residency is the postgraduate studies to be come consultants in various specialities like neurosurgery, plastic surgery, Paediatrics etc.
The residency training is a rigorous one and the resident doctor works for no less than 68 hours in a week, runs the emergency, clinics, do ward rounds, teach medical students and even nursing and other students. The resident doctor also does case and seminar presentations carries out researches, writes academic papers and does a thesis (all these and more are necessary prerequisites to become a consultant). This residency takes 6 to 12 years depending on the specialty and it also incorporates very tough specialty exams.

Also take note that a doctor that does not do residency but has 20 years of work and surgical experience is not decorated a consultant.
So for a pharmacist, nurse or medical record personnel to just wake up and say because they have 10 years experience they should be decorated consultants is very laughable and shows myopia, greed and the entitlement mentality that defines JOHESU.

Also, and more importantly, the consultant is the person in charge of patient care and determines what tests, what drugs, what nursing care the patient needs and is indisputably the head of the team. He plays a vital central lead role and he determines who needs to see a pharmacist or a nurse or a lab technician. This comes with its challenges too, for instance, if any thing goes wrong in patient care, it is the consultant that carries the medicolegal burden. So of what use is the consultant pharmacist or nurse in this setting? The patient will only suffer and the standard of care will further depreciate as there will be confusion due to the many unnecessary captains of the ship who can do nothing more.
If that is the case then there's anarchy in the health sector if their request is granted but if I were the FG I will do either of these
1. Do some findings on how things are done in the US and in the UK and follow suit, those two countries are the si unit of how things should normally run

2. if johesu insist on being consultants because of the monetary gain attached to the title consultants then they must be responsible for their actions/inactions as the case may be. The patient will be well educated and given the options to choose which consultants they want to be attended to by and any consultants they choose is responsible for the success or failure of their treatment

3. Doctors that didn't go through Residency should be appointed as consultants too as soon as they spend a specified number of years in service, the ones that went through residency should drop the title "consultants " for every other person, they should simply be bearing the name of the field of their specialty like Gynecologist, Paediatrician, Surgeon, Neurosurgeon and so on

4. People should be paid based on the number of hours they work and importance of their jobs. if you're a neurosurgeon that works and operate for hours, you should earn higher than the man that only sits down in the hospital to dispense drugs instead of working in big pharmaceutical companies to be researching and producing drugs that will help treat diseases. One thing that baffles me till date is how someone will spend many years in the University only to graduate and start dispensing drugs in the hospital. Some category of people simply don't know their worth.

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Health / Re: Group Asks Court To Jail JOHESU Officials For Failing To Suspend Strike - Punch by worlexy(m): 11:12pm On May 23, 2018
And the drama continues.

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Crime / Re: Young Man Shot Dead By Police While Separating Fight In Ajegunle. Photos by worlexy(m): 8:24pm On May 23, 2018
May we never be at the wrong place at the wrong time. Amen. RIP
Nigeria is becoming something else, hardly can a day pass without innocent people's blood being spilled

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Crime / Re: Fulani Herdsmen Kill People Along Makurdi Naka Road (Graphic Photos) by worlexy(m): 8:23pm On May 23, 2018
What's happening in this country
Celebrities / Re: Liz Anjorin To Fan: "May Allah Punish Your Late Mother In The Grave" by worlexy(m): 6:12pm On May 22, 2018
Lagbaja, epe
Politics / Re: 'Saraki Is A Killer': Protest Rocks Ilorin In Support Of IGP Idris (Photos) by worlexy(m): 5:53pm On May 21, 2018
Rubbish protest, how many politicians have been assassinated in Kwara since 2012? On this same Nairaland we've read how cultists have been killing one another in Aba and Anambra today. Cultists killed members of their rival groups in Kwara and they are saying Saraki sponsored them.
Oya make una mention just one politician that was assassinated in kwara
Crime / Re: Aiye And Vikings Cults Clash In Anambra.10 Killed. Graphic Photos by worlexy(m): 1:54pm On May 21, 2018
It's like these killings of theirs is seasonal. in the past few days we've been hearing of cult related killings all over the country

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Celebrities / Re: Linda Ikeji: I Can Hide Baby Bump For Africa Sha! (Photos) by worlexy(m): 1:52pm On May 21, 2018
MaziOmenuko:


Nothing person no go hear for nairaland again. So aunty Linda no sabi say d1ckk wey stand dey give belle? So all the kobo-kobo gossip wey she dey carry other people matter put for head for her blog no tell you say people go put her own matter for head?

Theres no excuse for this jaree...especially when she has been in the forefront of preaching celibacy and encouraging girls to stay off sex.

Jmoore, come see your role model in celibacy issues. Babe dey take better preeq for sidelines.
You would rather she remain celibate for life and not be have a child of her own? She's almost 40yrs(will be 38yrs in September) if all that don't make any sense to you, please read up what Fecundability and fecundity means and relate it to her age.
Celebrities / Re: Linda Ikeji: I Can Hide Baby Bump For Africa Sha! (Photos) by worlexy(m): 1:08pm On May 21, 2018
Oritzy:
To be pregnant outside wedlock
Swear that you've never had sex outside wedlock before, so would you have aborted the baby if the sex led to pregnancy?

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Celebrities / Re: Linda Ikeji: I Can Hide Baby Bump For Africa Sha! (Photos) by worlexy(m): 1:06pm On May 21, 2018
Benjom:
She's not a good mentor cool
you're only qualified to say that if you have never had sex before marriage before. So would you have been happy if she chooses to abort the pregnancy all in the name of not wanting to be pregnant before marriage?

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Romance / Re: Cuddled My Girlfriend After A Heavy Rainfall Today - Photos by worlexy(m): 8:50pm On May 18, 2018
Mariinee:
With your psychologically imbalanced self, just don't wake and stab the poor girl to death one day. I wonder what girl would hang out with a mentally-challenged fellow gan? Smh.
Is this guy your ex? Cos with the way u dey para, I'm sure you know each other outside Nairaland

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Crime / Re: 25-year-old Man Rapes Corper For Snubbing Love Advances by worlexy(m): 9:02am On May 18, 2018
chai
Health / Re: Court Orders JOHESU To End Strike And Resume Work Within 24 Hours by worlexy(m): 8:51pm On May 17, 2018
lalastilala
Seun
mydn4 please move this to frontpage
Health / Court Orders JOHESU To End Strike And Resume Work Within 24 Hours by worlexy(m): 8:50pm On May 17, 2018
The National Industrial Court , Abuja , on Thursday ordered striking members of Joint Health Sector Union to suspend its on - going strike and resume duties across the nation within 24 hours.
Justice Babatunde Adejumo gave the order after listening to the submissions of Mr . Okere Nnamdi in an ex- parte motion filed by a non - governmental organisation.
The NGO , Incorporated Trustees of Kingdom Human Rights Foundation International , in the motion prayed the court to order the workers to resume work and go back to negotiation table .
Adejumo , who is also the President of NICN , ordered the ministers of Health , Labour and Employment , among others, to immediately set up a committee to address issues raised by labour .
The judge ordered that the parties should arrive at an acceptable and amicable solutions in the interest of Nigerians who are bearing the brunt of the strike action .
The judge also ordered the President and Vice President of JOHESU to attend the negotiations .
He said that the negotiations should take into consideration the provisions of the National Salaries , Income and Wages Act .
Joined as respondents in the suit are the President and Vice President of JOHESU, and National Salaries , Income and Wages Commission .
News Agency of Nigeria recalls that JOHESU commenced strike on April 17 to demand for upward adjustment of CONHESS salary scale , and employment of additional health professionals .
Other demands are implementation of court judgments and upward review of retirement age from 60 to 65 years.
The matter was adjourned until June 4 for hearing of motion on notice and originating summons .

http://punchng.com/court-orders-johesu-to-end-strike-and-resume-work-within-24-hours/
Politics / Re: Kaduna 2018 LG Election Results Breakdown (Photo) by worlexy(m): 12:12pm On May 17, 2018
The people of Southern Kaduna have suffered too much in the hands of Jihadis who disguise as herdsmen and from neighboring countries and Libya. Why would they not vote against APC?

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Politics / Re: Reno Omokri Reacts To IGP Ibrahim Idris' Speech Blunder With (See Tweets) by worlexy(m): 9:21am On May 17, 2018
worlexy:
What did Reno tweeted? Rule of grammar says "did" can't be followed by another past tense. So Mr Man, you ought to have said "What did Reno tweet " not tweeted.
second, what has the husband's qualification got to do with the wife's intelligence, so you mean the wife of a pilot should automatically be able to fly a plane? My brother, don't let hatred becloud your sense of reasoning!

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Politics / Re: Reno Omokri Reacts To IGP Ibrahim Idris' Speech Blunder With (See Tweets) by worlexy(m): 9:19am On May 17, 2018
Sirjamo:
What did Reno tweeted when a certain wife of a PhD holder addressed a group of women as "My fellow Widows"
What did Reno tweeted?

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Celebrities / Re: De-Code: "Why No Afropop Artistes Can Win A Grammy" by worlexy(m): 9:00pm On May 16, 2018
"Don't doubt me I go bring you Grammy "

Please tell 9ice that we his fans are still waiting for him to fulfill his promise

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Politics / Re: Ultimatum From Ex-pdp Chiefs: Buhari’s Men Await Next Move From Saraki, Tambuwal by worlexy(m): 8:41am On May 12, 2018
it's getting interesting now

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