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Enoquin:
Now, this is interesting...do I know you?
As for a different moniker, I disagree. Brand too big? Now that statement had me in stitches. Seriously though, reveal thy self

U really want to know who I'm? An ardent fan of yours

Enoquin:
So, where's the criticism she supposedly attracted?

Shocked to find you here....your brand is too big for nairaland...should ve used a different moniker

deols:
The verses only narrated prophet Ibrahim's ordeal. They do not prove that his sacrifice is the same as the one we carry out.

This question is so dumb that one begin to ponder if you have any knowledge of your religion.

A lots of Muslims out there disgracing Islam, doing wrong things and flaunting it, unable to educate kafir on Islam basic topics like this

Please seek knowledge if you are a Muslim, so as not to ask silly questions like the above.....

"Farifuni qabla an tabuduni wama lamyarifuni fakaifa tahabuduni"

@OP may the Almighty Allah continue to enrich you in knowledge and every Muslim....Knowledge is power

makahlj2:
Please excuse my ignorance, but which exactly of these people have been black? I saw mostly Arabs in that list.

What to excuse is not ur ignorance but your lack of attention to details rather...my response you quoted was a deliberate response to a direct question..which says 'How is Islam the beggining of civilization' why are you suddenly interested in skin? My response was tailored to the question and not to the caption of the topic of this thread.

I hope you are well clarified friend?

There are black Arabs though may not have been popular for major inventions..

Please research more on this if you are particular abot skin

donholy28:
After reading all this av come to one conclusion... women who marry old men are gold digging revenge bent biitches

You sound undenieably shallow just like the Op, young age is not enough excuse to admit silliness,especially when it is of this height and unfortunately, a lots of youths are in this pit

See below reasons a man or woman may get married..m

1. Godliness
2. Wealth
3. Knowledge
4. Beauty/handsomeness

Now is money included or not..show us ur own sister who got married to a man because the man is poor enough..

Shallow pple

@op how old are you?
You obviously know nothing about what marriage is...

Since when is age become a factor..??

They will not marry older men,they will wait for you...so that you waste their time,make them wear ring for 15years and suddenly called it off...that's is what young pple like you do..who cannot feed themselves and expect ladies to wait till eternity..

Ladies would read your post and laugh at your lameness...

When they don't get married u blame them,when they marry for money you blame them...can you show me someone who has gotten married for poverty? Shallow you

Kogi state is backward because it has been ruled by men Without vision for centuries

Just wondering what Audu is coming back to do..that bleaching toad

Same pple that dragged the state into coma are dying to rule it forever

All the points mentioned by the OP is true, I had a lenghty chat with my younger sister few days ago and it was exactly what I read here.

Whatever Islam recomends is of God though often percieved outdated, everything could be outdated but not the words of God.

Islam says be a virgin like Marry
Cover your hair like Marry
Wear beards like Jesus and Muhammed

Find out the horrible experince some of the pple practising the God's way..and you will be convinced again that the devil now walks the earth as human

Jesus was born a muslim,currently with God and will return to die a muslim

Archeologically or historically by simplification, christianity as a religion had caused more war, had lead to more bloodshed than Islam has..pls google it,I dare you


Finally, slovakia is not banning muslims from entering their country, they a honestly apologising for lack of Islamic amenities on ground to make Muslims fee at home and are taking excuse not to confine people to area they wil not feel at home..m

Slovakia should ve taken them in,a more hospitable thing to do..but christianity is built of lies,falsifications,alterations and hipocrisy that s why they gave such delusive excuse not to accommodate them..

The biggest living terrorists Natanyahu and Bush are not Muslims by the way..ISIS killing combined with Boikoharam is not up to Bushe's nor Natanyahu alone..

There are too many children of 1990 and above typing on nairaland wall with obscene and lame orientation.

In the contemporary world, Israel is the greatest terrorist

The Israel that God loved and protected is no more the same you see today....the have forsaken God....they are against God...they are cursed

They have sinfully terrorized all their neighboring Islamic countries and get away with it

This thread was created by a dying soul grossly obsessed with Islam and searching so tough to find peace, and he shall only find peace when he embraces Islam.

I really feel for those hating Islam bcoz is like hating water which is the means of survival

Burn a Ds3 internet bandwidth searching for this BIG NEWS online, you simply won't find anything close...

Why lying to satisfy obsession? The same lies America and Isreal mechandized all through the world about Islam...you are doing your horrible bit here on Nairaland..

Islam treat women like cattle by encourage them to wear Hijab to cover their honor, while the others feauture them naked in music videos and convinced them to wear fake hair instead....which of your arguments is not blatant lies..?

Welldone...

virus05:
u'r not intelligent at all

But sir your comment shows he's still ahead of you

Time for the creator

No matter how busy you are, find time for your creator and fulfil his obligations..

I wish to be there too, but not rich enough to finance journey...one day sha..InshaAllah

I envy you Fash...

aminho:
If it was a hausa person now the kind insult him go receive no get part 2

They wouldn't even stop at insults alone,they would have attributed it to. Religion, calling her jihadist or terrorist.

Bloody hypocrites...

MarieSucre:
Bathing
Washing and bathing are religious requirements for
Muslims, which is perhaps why they perfected the
recipe for soap which we still use today. The ancient
Egyptians had soap of a kind, as did the Romans who
used it more as a pomade. But it was the Arabs who
combined vegetable oils with sodium hydroxide and
aromatics such as thyme oil. One of the Crusaders'
most striking characteristics, to Arab nostrils, was that
they did not wash. Shampoo was introduced to England
by a Muslim who opened Mahomed's Indian Vapour
Baths on Brighton seafront in 1759 and was appointed
Shampooing Surgeon to Kings George IV and William
IV. [2]
The first issue we need to address here, is the "Muslim" that
Paul Vallely is referring to. His name was Sake Dean
Mahomed and he was not a Muslim, but a convert to
Christianity. [14] Born to Muslim parents in 1759, He
converted to Christianity and married the Anglo-Irish
gentlewoman, Jane Daly, in an Anglican ceremony in
1786 [15] (long before opening "Mahomed's Indian Vapour
Baths" in 1821). [16] Two of his children (Amelia and Henry)
were also baptised into the Anglican faith, and one of his
grandsons, Rev. James Kerriman Mahomed, was appointed
as the vicar of Hove, Sussex. [17] Also worthy of mention is
the fact that Islam is not the only religion which dictates
rules on personal cleanliness. The Jews too have rules
governing hygiene .
A soap-like material found in clay cylinders during the
excavation of ancient Babylon is evidence that soapmaking
was known as early as 2800 BC. Inscriptions on the
cylinders say that fats were boiled with ashes, which is a
method of making soap, but do not refer to the purpose of
the "soap." Such materials were later used as hair styling
aids. Like the ancient Egyptians before them, daily bathing
was an important event in the ancient Roman world [18] and
a common custom in Japan during the Middle Ages. And in
Iceland, pools warmed with water from hot springs were
popular gathering places on Saturday evenings.
Soapmaking was an established craft in Europe by the 7th
century. Soapmaker guilds guarded their trade secrets
closely. Vegetable and animal oils were used with ashes of
plants, along with fragrance. Gradually more varieties of
soap became available for shaving and shampooing, as well
as bathing and laundering. The English began making soap
during the 12 th century. The soap business was so good
that in 1622, King James I granted a monopoly to a
soapmaker for $100,000 a year. Well into the 19 th century,
soap was heavily taxed as a luxury item in several
countries. When the high tax was removed, soap became
available to ordinary people, and cleanliness standards
improved. Commercial soapmaking in the American
colonies began in 1608 with the arrival of several
soapmakers on the second ship from England to reach
Jamestown, VA. The science of modern soapmaking was
bom in the 1820's with the discovery by French chemist
Michel Eugene Chevreul, of the chemical nature and
relationship of fats, glycerine and fatty acids. His studies
established the basis for both fat and soap chemistry. [19]
Distillation
The means of separating liquids through differences in
their boiling points, was invented around the year 800
by Islam's foremost scientist, Jabir ibn Hayyan, who
transformed alchemy into chemistry, inventing many of
the basic processes and apparatus still in use today -
liquefaction, crystallisation, distillation, purification,
oxidisation, evaporation and filtration. As well as
discovering sulphuric and nitric acid, he invented the
alembic still, giving the world intense rosewater and
other perfumes and alcoholic spirits (although drinking
them is haram, or forbidden, in Islam). Ibn Hayyan
emphasised systematic experimentation and was the
founder of modern chemistry. [2]
Speculation has linked some Egyptian illustrations with
distillation, but the earliest evidence for its invention so far
is a distillation apparatus and terra-cotta perfume
containers recently identified in the Indus Valley (pre-
Islamic Pakistan) dating from around 3,000 BC, and Miriam
the Prophetess (also known as “Maria the Jewess”)
invented the kerotakis, an early still dated around the 1 st
century AD. [21] The first firm documentary evidence for
distillation in the West comes from Greek historian
Herodotus' record of the method of distilling turpentine
dated 425 BC. [22] Also, the origins of whisky is dated to the
5 th century AD, introduced to Ireland by Saint Patrick (390–
461 AD), the patron of the Irish. [23] So the Arabs may have
improved upon the process of distillation some 3500 years
later, but they most definitely did not invent it.
It is also of great interest to note that the authorship of
many books previously attributed to Jabir ibn Hayyan
(including "his" most famous work, Summa Perfectionis )
have now been attributed to an unknown European
alchemist, sometimes to the little-known Paul of Taranto,
writing shortly after 1300 AD. [24] According to the
Encyclopædia Britannica:
" [Geber was an] unknown author of several books that were
among the most influential works on alchemy and metallurgy
during the 14th and 15th centuries.
The name Geber, a Latinized form of Jābir, was adopted
because of the great reputation of the 8th-century Arab
alchemist Jābir ibn Ḥayyān. A number of Arabic scientific works
credited to Jābir were translated into Latin during the 11th to
13th centuries. Thus, when an author who was probably a
practicing Spanish alchemist began to write in about 1310, he
adopted the westernized form of the name, Geber, to give added
authority to his work, which nevertheless reflected 14th-century
European alchemical practices rather than earlier Arab ones.
Four works by Geber are known: Summa perfectionis magisterii
(The Sum of Perfection or the Perfect Magistery, 1678), Liber
fornacum (Book of Furnaces, 1678), De investigatione
perfectionis (The Investigation of Perfection, 1678), and De
inventione veritatis (The Invention of Verity, 1678). They are the
clearest expression of alchemical theory and the most important
set of laboratory directions to appear before the 16th century.
Accordingly, they were widely read and extremely influential in a
field where mysticism, secrecy, and obscurity were the usual
rule. "[25]

I thought you were going to nullify my facts with worthy counter facts,happily, your arguments has only a buttress of the established facts, you were mentioning who and who converted and what and what what used by other people, common! this is not a tom and jerry play write-up...

I would appreciate you take this piece of golden knowledge and halt decorating biased impressions any further, you may argue another day, on another topic, but this one was an obvious gift of knowledge from me to you,OR Would you have appreciated a gift of cabbage more because it is edible? common! knowledge is golden...pocket this

crotonite:
I have spent many decades in the north, in the middle of hausas (harded coded islamist), and I still find nothing alluring in this islam of a thing , BUT TERROR.

I can summarize from the brief interaction i have with you, you share the same wanton mentality of expecting every Muslim to be perfect, Islam is perfect but Muslims aren't. As a Yoruba Muslim, i do not entirely agree with the way Hausa's practice Islam,Just as some Igbos disagree with how Yoruba's practice Christianity,

That being so, the question now goes down to WHAT IS THE QUALITY OF THE TWO MODEL ISLAM & CHRISTIANITY in its PURE FORM? leaving out the people practicing them, compare the source/origin/virtue and test the tenet of their beliefs. This what i'm talking about

I'm not talking about the gay pastors and bin ladens ok.i have no business with what flaws they suffer as individuals. I will engage you on the books and the source of the contents. which is what forms the basis of the two religions.

If i say peace unto you and you reject it, should i stop greeting my Christian neighbors just bcoz I was once denied a job bcoz i'm Muslim? common grooooow up bro..

MarieSucre:
Go back to the origin of this question line. I commented on the moors and also how the Europeans have also being ahead of us in so many aspects. And YOU quoted me. YOUR quote did not provide any counter point but resorted to ad hominems. That is when I asked YOU to provide evidence for YOUR claims. Now pks do the needful and provide the evidence. Otan!

Your plea of ignorance has found a cure, i have finally considered you frank and will do justice to your request so that you may heal many others out there who might be equally uninformed, which i consider unfair in this generation of free access to internet.

Now, i repeat again, Islam is the beginning of civilization, below are some documented evidences as confirmed even by an Islam hating channel CNN.
I indulge you to seat back as take you on this convincing journey, that Islam is indeed the beginning of civilization.

If you had waited for me this long to do this research for you, then, how am i damn sure you know what civilization is? this is why i will steal a moment to define what civilization means in a generous context. Civilization is a height of human social,economics, cultural and organizational development of a particular age or time.

MarieSucre, could you think of top factors to consider while scrutinizing human development? i'm pretty sure education,science,mathematics, food,music and health would be inclusive on your dear list.

You might as well find my text as lengthy and burdensome, this is why i will provide you with a visual youtube link as substitute to my theoritical write-up dug from verified sources.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXuSNdlJOCw

please thank me later, or better still accord me a little respect for once

BI-ISIMILAH,

Think of the origins of that staple of modern life, the cup of coffee, and Italy often springs to mind.But in fact, Yemen is where the ubiquitous brew has its true origins.

Along with the first university, and even the toothbrush, it is among surprising Muslim inventions that have shaped the world we live in today.

The origins of these fundamental ideas and objects -- the basis of everything from the bicycle to musical scales -- are the focus of "1001 Inventions," a book celebrating "the forgotten" history of 1,000 years of Muslim heritage.

"There's a hole in our knowledge, we leap frog from the Renaissance to the Greeks," professor Salim al-Hassani, Chairman of the Foundation for Science, Technology and Civilisation, and editor of the book told CNN.

"1001 Inventions" is now an exhibition at London's Science Museum. Hassani hopes the exhibition will highlight the contributions of non-Western cultures -- like the Muslim empire that once covered Spain and Portugal, Southern Italy and stretched as far as parts of China -- to present day civilization.
Hospitals as we know them today, with wards and teaching centers, come from 9th century Egypt
--professor Salim al-Hassani
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Here Hassani shares his top 10 outstanding Muslim inventions:

1. Surgery

Around the year 1,000, the celebrated doctor Al Zahrawi published a 1,500 page illustrated encyclopedia of surgery that was used in Europe as a medical reference for the next 500 years. Among his many inventions, Zahrawi discovered the use of dissolving cat gut to stitch wounds -- beforehand a second surgery had to be performed to remove sutures. He also reportedly performed the first caesarean operation and created the first pair of forceps.

2. Coffee

Now the Western world's drink du jour, coffee was first brewed in Yemen around the 9th century. In its earliest days, coffee helped Sufis stay up during late nights of devotion. Later brought to Cairo by a group of students, the coffee buzz soon caught on around the empire. By the 13th century it reached Turkey, but not until the 16th century did the beans start boiling in Europe, brought to Italy by a Venetian trader.

3. Flying machine

"Abbas ibn Firnas was the first person to make a real attempt to construct a flying machine and fly," said Hassani. In the 9th century he designed a winged apparatus, roughly resembling a bird costume. In his most famous trial near Cordoba in Spain, Firnas flew upward for a few moments, before falling to the ground and partially breaking his back. His designs would undoubtedly have been an inspiration for famed Italian artist and inventor Leonardo da Vinci's hundreds of years later, said Hassani.

4. University

In 859 a young princess named Fatima al-Firhi founded the first degree-granting university in Fez, Morocco. Her sister Miriam founded an adjacent mosque and together the complex became the al-Qarawiyyin Mosque and University. Still operating almost 1,200 years later, Hassani says he hopes the center will remind people that learning is at the core of the Islamic tradition and that the story of the al-Firhi sisters will inspire young Muslim women around the world today.

5. Algebra

The word algebra comes from the title of a Persian mathematician's famous 9th century treatise "Kitab al-Jabr Wa l-Mugabala" which translates roughly as "The Book of Reasoning and Balancing." Built on the roots of Greek and Hindu systems, the new algebraic order was a unifying system for rational numbers, irrational numbers and geometrical magnitudes. The same mathematician, Al-Khwarizmi, was also the first to introduce the concept of raising a number to a power.

6. Optics

"Many of the most important advances in the study of optics come from the Muslim world," says Hassani. Around the year 1000 Ibn al-Haitham proved that humans see objects by light reflecting off of them and entering the eye, dismissing Euclid and Ptolemy's theories that light was emitted from the eye itself. This great Muslim physicist also discovered the camera obscura phenomenon, which explains how the eye sees images upright due to the connection between the optic nerve and the brain.

7. Music

Muslim musicians have had a profound impact on Europe, dating back to Charlemagne tried to compete with the music of Baghdad and Cordoba, according to Hassani. Among many instruments that arrived in Europe through the Middle East are the lute and the rahab, an ancestor of the violin. Modern musical scales are also said to derive from the Arabic alphabet.

8. Toothbrush

According to Hassani, the Prophet Mohammed popularized the use of the first toothbrush in around 600. Using a twig from the Meswak tree, he cleaned his teeth and freshened his breath. Substances similar to Meswak are used in modern toothpaste.

9. The crank

Many of the basics of modern automatics were first put to use in the Muslim world, including the revolutionary crank-connecting rod system. By converting rotary motion to linear motion, the crank enables the lifting of heavy objects with relative ease. This technology, discovered by Al-Jazari in the 12th century, exploded across the globe, leading to everything from the bicycle to the internal combustion engine.

10. Hospitals

"Hospitals as we know them today, with wards and teaching centers, come from 9th century Egypt," explained Hassani. The first such medical center was the Ahmad ibn Tulun Hospital, founded in 872 in Cairo. Tulun hospital provided free care for anyone who needed it -- a policy based on the Muslim tradition of caring for all who are sick. From Cairo, such hospitals spread around the Muslim world.

MarieSucre:
More irrelevant discourse. I'm happy to know you're from the middle belt too. where? I hope you'll answer this question as well as the other.

Yagba East,as for the research,you havnt mentioned how much you've got

crotonite:
well, that is his own cup of tea.

as for me, I will rather worship a pig than believe in islam.


Jesus is the son of allah GOD, which I believe and will always adhere to, NO REMORSE

islam is peace , it seems the definition of peace has changed of recent.
there is nothing good in islam.





btw he should start preparing for his 72 virgins.

If I engage you in comparative religion discussion for 3 days, you will embrace Islam.

You will realize the diff btw worshipping God and worshipping who He God has created.

Every human being cannot be a Muslim bcoz certainly hellfire has been created and it must be filled with transgressors.

You currently feel this way bcoz you are overly beclowded by the false teachings you have been fed from childhood and conscienteously consumed by your parochial dwelling in erroneous knowledge..let's meet up brother and place the books side by side...

Peace unto you.

MarieSucre:
Its a 'she' not a 'he' and what does 'asking brewing questions mean?'. Should 'brewing' be used to qualify that verb? especially within this context? That's by the way and I'm a patient person. so dear sir, provide the evidence and stop with this nonsense or I shall conclude you never had any evidence in the first place and were just talking for talking sake.

I like your courage and I will reward you by doing for you what you could have done by yourself, before I do d research on your behalf,how much will you pay me ma?

However, I'm from the middle_belt too

MarieSucre:
Good! its confirmed you're not a child so away with the childish responses. Evidence please and no more if that evasive nonsense.

God, I ve been dealing with a toddler,what a waste of time...no wonder he kept asking brewing questions

This story is made up.


No Muslim Lady would consider a non Muslim an option in the first place.

Those dumb pple

@OP if only you knew the kind of reward you ve earn yourself..jazakalahu khairan

Islam, there's no such perfection, imagine having clear and affordable rules to carrying out all obligation...

Ramadan is a gift, please embrace it as it should be embraced brothers and sisters

There's no such thing as office of thre first lady, this scam has to stop

Wife is wife...this looting has to stop

Pinocchioo:
a wonderful thread, learnt a lot. Nice one @ OP

Could you add me up for a healthy conversation? 7EE64D04

thnx

OREMUSSANCTUS:
We don miss dis man die
Nigerians re saying thank u for d peace u brought to dis nation
May God give u life to see ya reward on earth before u join him in heaven,Amen.

No man can pirate your mumu bcoz it has patent right

Boring...


Looks nothing like Dubai


What happens to all the beautiful Ngozi,Chidinma in Niger....this woorworish oyinbo


Mike fall my hand o

celeron40:
Anything is possible if they have muslim citizens..fvck islam.

How do you sleep at night with this kind of woeful soul

MarieSucre:
Please I humbly beg; give me the evidence of such an assertion.

Why are you stalking me? i'm married o

MarieSucre:
I politely repeat: pls provide evidence?

I humbly put to you to challenge of researching yourself and stop playing lazy

I hope he doe not forget his shoes which was his only achievement

he fell things apart

I wont be surprised if he has to go to jail