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ENIGMATIC2023:
Religion has enslaved many African nations from developments of Nigeria is chief

stop blaming religion for individual foolishness and faluire.

Righteousness89:
Someone says " I will never come to church anymore "
For a little Trial, you won't go to church anymore?
Probably a little persecution will also make you to quit/Deny JESUS!

We are in Last days Folks! If you are not willing and ready to die for the Name of JESUS! You are not Worthy of Eternal Life

the point is that they disobeyed. They were not stopped from worshipping but flouted the safety guidelines. When the devil asked Jesus to jump down from the temple's pinnacle in hope that he would be safe, He replied saying "You shall not tempt the Lord". Even though you feel God can save you, why put God to the test. What about those that don't share your immunity. What happens to them?

Virus99:
All I know is that the opposite of what I dreamt about is what usually happens

At the Nigerisn Army Short Service Selection Board in Kaduna that year, I dreamt and I saw my self in full military regalia... The next morning I totally messed my Interview. And I wasn't shortlisted in the final list.

Months later, I dreamt that I failed woefully and everyone was mocking me. Couple of weeks later, I found an Angel investor for my startup.

These things perplex me so much especially since I detest religion or the notion of an omnipotent God who watch on while evil happens in the world.

if it's the evil that God allows that is your problem, that can be easily explained.

Virus99:
All I know is that the opposite of what I dreamt about is what usually happens

At the Nigerisn Army Short Service Selection Board in Kaduna that year, I dreamt and I saw my self in full military regalia... The next morning I totally messed my Interview. And I wasn't shortlisted in the final list.

Months later, I dreamt that I failed woefully and everyone was mocking me. Couple of weeks later, I found an Angel investor for my startup.

These things perplex me so much especially since I detest religion or the notion of an omnipotent God who watch on while evil happens in the world.

if it's the evil that God allows that is your problem, that can be easily explained

iamvictorbassey:
EDITED : Before stating anything. I want express my sadness over the death of our brothers and sisters who lost their lives on the 20th of October, 2020 and the many more who have also lost theirs in the course of this fight for freedom. I am in no way better than any of you. You laid your lives so that we can live ours better. I want to say that we will not and never relent on this fight. We must win this fight. You'll forever remain heroes and never be forgotten in our hearts. Liven on warriors.


Good day nairalanders,
So much to say, but I have to be as brief as possible. So from where do I begin?

Let me start by doffing my hat and saluting every young person who in whatever way supported this #ENDSARS movement. You are truly a hero whether noticed or not.

I have been typing this write up for a while now, trying to make it precise and concise. But as events unfold I have to edit it everytime. Yesterday's was the worse I could ever imagine. It has affected many things I already typed.

Since what I will be talking about will be very lengthy, I will categorize the writeup into headings and paragraphs, so as not to bore readers.

WHAT WE DID WELL ; It is an excellent idea that the protest has no leader and took to the pattern of the Mexican Mafia called La Eme, where everyone is a leader and a brother. Thus making it very difficult to break in by the government.

I'm extremely impressed at how Nigerian youths have united and shown so much support to each other. This is something I always wished for, but I don't have the platform to air my views. Support in terms of feeding, health, security, kind gestures like paying for an artificial leg for that lady amongst numerous others. I believe this is the begining of testing our strength.

I want to commend us for understanding that the media in Nigeria is highly compromised, thus the need for us to setup our own radio network "SORO SOKE"

I want to commend us also for putting up a "5for5" demand before the presidency and consistently mounting pressure on them to fulfill every part of it.

REALITIES
1st REALITY : Yes Buhari is in the know about what is happening, no doubt. But it might suprise you to know that Buhari has not been given a real picture of what is really happening. They probably just said to him "your excellency, a handfull of people are not happy with SARS brutality, so they said I should come and beg you to look into it. They also made a few demands.". Those around the President have made it a duty of painting a picture of perfection in the country.

They control the entire media space and everything related. This means the daily newspapers brought to him have been properly vetted. The news stations he watches are all controlled by these big shots. The initial most trusted news channel Channels, is owned by Tony Momoh. This same person was appointed by Buhari to act as the governing council chair to Unilag. Such romance, what does that tell you? TVC is owned by a strong member of the ruling party. NTA, Oh! lets respect the dead. Which other TV station is capable of giving big blows to the government?

Next stop should have been the internet but unfortunately, I doubt if your president uses the twitter app or the internet at large.

2nd REALITY : SARS is a menace no doubt, but wouldn't you say same about the Nigerian army? Customs? Ordinary Police Officers? EFCC? Even Civil Defence they gave guns to just "yesterday" have extrajudicial killings in their name. So what then is the problem? Is it the name of the squad/body, the people in the squad? Their trainings? Or what? Let's get down to it.

Logically speaking, what these operatives do is just a manifestation of the average Nigerian. If you take the rifle, uniform, badge, capacity and office of a SARS officer and give it to an ordinary civilian, he'll most likely do same or worst. And I'll tell you why much later.

AN INTERLUDE
SOME TRUTHS YOU DONT KNOW
On sunday I had a chat with a Police Officer, and I recorded him half way though very late (when I discovered those truths cannot go unrecorded) but I can't post it here because nairaland does not support such media, but I will convert it to a video and post the link here much later. Beneath is a summary of some of the things he said.

Firstly he said, I am 101% in support of #REFORMTHEPOLICE / #ENDSARS and I'm sure 80% of junior officers are in support. Then he continued saying:

1. There is a system in the Nigerian Police Force which mounts pressure on you to be corrupt. You cannot avoid it. For instance, you are asked to go on patrol with the police truck. To start with there is no fuel inside the truck, but you must ensure that you and your team fill the tank with fuel and go for the patrol. You can never find a NPF truck with more than 1litre of fuel inside. Definitely extortion on the road must occur, because I'm definitely not going to take out of my #40,000 or #60,000 naira meagre salary with a wife and maybe 3 children to fuel the truck.

2. He said, for one to become the head of some squads and teams of strategic points, one could pay as high as 10,000,000 bribe because it's sure that you'll make multiples of that amount. In the first place how come you have so much money to spare from your meagre salary, he questioned? Secondly how are you going to meet up if you're not planning to rob people and shoot them if they don't unlock their phones and show you their bank balance?

3. Then I asked him if it was true that they buy buttons and sew their uniforms for that ridiculous amount I heard. He confirmed it that they buy about 8 buttons for their uniform and so on totalling over 50-60,000. How does one meet up?

4. One of the biggest jackpot that can change a Police Officer's life is the UN peace keeping missions he said. When you return from that mission, UN calculates your 1year stay there and pays you an equivalent of 8-9million naira. Such an amount of money is life changing, he said. But even that one has been hijacked by the big guns in the NPF. Ideally, one who has gone before isn't supposed to go again until everyone has gone like in the Nigerian army. But in the NPF, the person who went last time, will take 1Million out of his/her 9million and bribe his or her way again for another, thus depriving others. There is a commision paid on return to the top.

5. During the Edo election, we were about 31,000 officers who went for that election both uniformed and undercovered, he said. (I was stunned). We were supposed to be paid 100,000 each on return. But we received only 40,000. Now ask me how to receive this 40,000 he said, I asked how? He said you must lobby with the person who will put your name. His cut is 20,000. (I became weak).

6. We are supposed to be entitled to a lot of allowances, but they cut all of them, he said. Furniture allowance for instance was totally cut off. Look at our barracks, go and see how messed up it looks, but you dare not say a thing. We have to suffer in silence.

7. I joined the NPF 16years ago with school cert, he said. We were asked to further our education if we want to grow, I hustled to get an NCE, some of my colleagues HND, ND, Degrees and so on. Still nothing till date.

8. There is a very big romance on-going between the government and our institutional heads. And the monies involved is not in tens of billions. They've got each other's back for the looting. There is so much money within the NPF, he said. Outside government fundings the NPF recieves quite a lot of money. Companies come to pay homage to top officers monthly, amidst others that can't be typed here. Wherever you go you find the police in charge of security, but we the junior officers dont benefit in any way.

9. He further said, myself in particular and I'm sure a whole lot of Nigerian Police officers who are suffering in silence are stronly in support of this movement because we are the biggest beneficiaries. The only ones not supporting are the corrupt few at the top benefitting directly and the few SARS unit officers extorting people.

WHY IT MIGHT NOT WORK
THE ROMANCE BETWEEN THE POLICE BIG GUNS AND THE GOVERNMENT
There's obviously a deep "romance" and "handshake" between the NPF and the Government, though this is to our detriment it doesn't matter. Because a wrong system will always seem right to those benefitting from it. To think of it that we did not demand anything tangible yet they cannot grant our request, that alone should tell you the amount of money they are raking in from the SARS units daily.

INFERIORITY COMPLEX
Should the government heed to our demands, we will from now henceforth realize the magnitude of power we possess. This primary reason alone is why government is refusing to succumb. They don't want to feel inferior.

OTHERS
The international community is not interested in our case. Let's not deceive ourselves, I watched on CNN how a sincere man said point blank that Nigeria is not a priority. I have lost faith in organizations like the UN, ICC, AMNESTY, AU, ECOWAS etc. Because I have never heard or seen them take any action before. And if there's any requirement for their intervention, I believe Nigeria has surpassed it multiple times. But I have never seen or heard them do anything. No matter the killing spree.

The government is using the access to tools under their control to discredit the peaceful protest in order to tag it a violent one. As a result launch attacks and impose curfew. Unfortunately I am posting this after the attacks. Because I wasn't able to finish proof reading this lengthy write-up before yesterday's attack. I knew it would happen. Once again, may the souls of the departed rest in peace. You will continue to live in our hearts.


SOME NOTES TO TAKE AND POSSIBLE SUGGESTIONS AS TO HOW WE CAN MAKE IT WORK

OUR DEMANDS AND NEGOTIATIONS : Yes I understand that we don't have a protesting leader/face/front and that's good. But when government began to ask us what we wanted. We ought to come together and draft out a flawless plan of what we actually wanted. There are professional negotiators specialized in the act of negotiating. We ought to have come together to employ the services of one. Himself and a lawyer should have drafted out a demand for the youth and negotiated with the government on our behalf.

A STRUCTURE : Earlier on, I said that the killings being perpetuated by the Nigerian security operatives only reflect the typical character of an average Nigerian when handed power. This simply implies that "these extrajudicial killings will not stop so long as uneducated, untrained, average power drunk Nigerians will wear those uniforms and hold those rifles" unless we want to be economical with the truth.

Now that we know the inevitable, in my honest opinion the best way to curb Police excessess is to design a structure to handle their expected excesses.

Some of which includes:
1. Body Camera : Though expensive to maintain, it's still cheaper than a human's life. I always say, "A camera is the deadliest weapon today". This alone can put Police and every other agency in check for as long as possible.
The biggest advantage of this is it'll help to improve police accountability, transparency, and legitimacy.

2. Truck Camera : Quite similar to the body camera, this will further strengthen the evidence for and against the alleged offender. Kicking against this idea shows that our police is not trust worthy.

OUR INCORRUPTIBLE MEDIA : Although this has already been done, I must commend the initiators of the SORO SOKE RADIO outfit. I must say we still need more especially a TV station. This is as important as Oxygen. I also want to use this medium to salute ARISE TV what they have been doing. We hope they dont compromise too. I want to state here at my own risk that Channels and TVC have been compromised. And I have known this since early 2016, but I cannot say it here because everyone in Nigeria who condemns the government is automatically termed a PDP member. People fail to understand that some of us hate both.

TELECOMMUNICATION : Sincerely, one of us has to go into telecomm business and we will support you immensely. I had to edit and add this point after seeing how helpless we were yesterday. We need one of us in the game.

REWARD AND PUNISHMENTS : Nigeria is where it is today because we lack this two (rewards and punishments). No consequences for whatever action. The impunity has further boldened others to do wrong. On our list of demands, we were not specific about what the "Justice for all victims" should be. We gave the government that brought us the same pain, a "blank cheque" to choose what to do with offenders they are trying to sheild for their selfish interest. What do you expect them to do? I expected precision on the demand. To start with, anything beneath death penalty for killing an unarmed civilian is a stupid demand. This is the only way to enforce good working ethics. Other offences can be jailable.

CONSTITUTIONAL BACKING : Earlier, I stated that we need a lawyer and a negotiator who properly understand some of these things, their possiblities and feasiblity. I stand to be corrected on this point, but I believe both the House of Assembly and the Senate will have to pass laws criminalizing criminal acts by the police and the punishments as laws so as to aid enforcement.

With this being made law, should an officer contravene, we can hit the streets in protest. This would make a lot of sense since it's already a written down law.

INVESTIGATING BODY : We must not let the government hijack this panel. We must ensure we have incorruptible and bold representatives representing the youth in whatever panel and capacity they setup. Be it the panel to investigate Police misconduct, or assesment of mental health status of officers into tactical units. We must be a part of the process. The days of "sidon look" are over.

CAMERA LAW : Sincerely this has to come under its own seperate heading. Because I don't see what damage a camera can cause if the attacker is not doing something he shouldn't be doing. We must press for a law to protect people who video activities of force operatives. Snatching of recording devices, breaking, harassing, deleting and so on must be a serious offence with the ability for the harrased to lay whatever claim since evidence has been erased or altered.

ONENESS (ONE FOR ALL, ALL FOR ONE) : I grew up in Nigeria to hear one stupid slogan called "Mind your business". I'm happy we are gradually seeing that, that slogan is a stupid slogan. We can not mind our business anymore because when one of us is affected all of us are. Whenever SARS or whatever stops anyone of us, I'll write this one in caps " WE MUST ALL COME ROUND, PASSERSBY MUST STOP, PEOPLE AROUND MUST COME CLOSE AND DEMAND TO KNOW THE OFFENCE OF THE YOUNG LAD. WE MUST HAVE EACH OTHER'S BACK, FRUSTRATE THEM TO A POINT WHERE THEY GIVE UP ON ARRESTING ANY OF US ILLEGALY ". We must have each other's back always.

Talking about having each other's back, we must ensure that everyone of us locked, arrested during this protest is fought for and freedom regained.

OUR POLITICAL PARTY : The last and probably most important point is the need to register our political party. The present crop of leaders we have today started ruling this country in their 30's and 40's. Yet they've refused to give us same oppurtunity. But truth be told, power is taken not given. And so shall it be, we shall grab that power. We may loose this battle, but we must not loose the war in 2023. We must ensure that we vote and defend. That's the real fight to die for. Because I will lay my all during that election.

I will urge us to start selecting candidates with reputable track records and character from now. People who have handled the little in their hands excellently. We must ensure we support them. Let's set up structures in every state and credible people to occupy positions from Local Government to Federal Goverment.

Lets donate funds to this cause via crypto currency. This protest has already shown how accountable we can be if we choose to. No amount is to small. If 1,000,000 youths donate 100naira to this cause that would be 100,000,000 naira. I know we can donate 500-1000naira per month until 2023. We now know that cost of governance is not expensive, we only have theives at the helm of affairs. And come 2023, we must oust them all.

Thanks.

PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ADD YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS. THANKS.



I WANT TO ALSO APPOLOGIZE FOR POSTING THIS VERY LATE.

Very well said sir

luminouz:
Antimatter is good. I hear that some new discoveries have been made about dark energy/dark matter too.

The only teleportation I know of is what is called quantum leaps(such as tractor beams and such) and they involve small distances(as claimed by the research)...

Funny that we are discovering all these but not how to prolong our lives long enough to actually witness them

true.

luminouz:
Maybe but time will tell.

Besides, there are alternatives like wormholes, jump points, quantum leaps/entanglements or WARP drive, then the BLINK drive.

A man doesn't just have enough life-years in him to survive to the nearest star system unless he stays in cryo-sleep, at least with current technologies. Even at that, it is never enough. What we need that can help US is a way to rip apart space-time barriers(what you call PORTALS) in order to experience what spacefaring truly is.

I've been a lover of space for many years. I hope I get to really experience space travel in my lifetime

that's our true enemy- "not enough time". Antimatter will be a big breakthrough in space travel. But it will be a miracle to produce large enough quantities in or lifetime. Scientist have also had some degree of progress with teleportation. All these take time to perfect. Guess we are gonna have to leave that tech to future fellows

Kennyking1234:
Explore I mean...
What if we discovery a transport system that allows move at 99% spread of light it would change the game.
And Bro besides what do you think about "Elon Musk".

not a scientist but nothing with mass can approach or move a light speed.

Friend22:
Stop using this false equivalence.
It actually makes you sound very shallow.

Can you please show me one proof that those looting the warehouses that their names were already signed in a paper as beneficiaries?
Just one proof?

At least in my house, we already know who and who are living there and who will benefit from whatever that's been shared or to be given.
But has the government mentioned any name if I were to follow your logic?
You can't just move things based on an open ended perception.
What if those who looted these palliatives are not even among the beneficiaries, won't it still amount to taking what has not been given to you?

If you can show me a proof that any of those looting are beneficiaries then I will retract my statement and apologise.

The citizens of the country are the beneficiaries. The looters.... Sorry reclaimers are nigerians. So don't they have the right. Is it better to starve the people to death. my major annoyance is the nonchalance off the government to the hungry masses.

Until someone tells me why govt would lock away resources meant for the people, I stand to reason that those against this(not thuggery) are simply being insensitive and foolishly idealistic

Friend22:
Calling me mumu shows the level of your thinking capacity.

Even if I get your point.
It still does not justify taking what has not been given to you.

Your mom told your elder sibling that you can have a piece of cake. Your sibling did not give you. Then you took it. Tell me, as a parent, would you get pissed. Is it stealing when it's already yours. Taking in excess and denying others from an equal chance to get theirs can be the only wrong in this scenario

helinues:
You can say that again....

But could you pls go through my threads?

no matter the logic you think you portray, lives were lost. Defenseless people were killed. When has death been the way to settle things in a democratic setting?

anonimi:
How many tribes/nationalities are in America, a country of migrants?

I agree that America is multicultural but is that serving as a barrier? Only race is.

Princedapace:
That of Nigeria is long gone. Tribalism will never allow the people to hold their leaders accountable.

Too many tribes for one nation if you ask me. Instead of our diversity being a strength, it's more of a weakness.

stagger:
Geneva is the one of the most expensive cities to live in globally. Whatever this wage translates to will be eaten up by domestic bills.

All these cross-country comparisons make no sense. Will you be here earning that money from Switzerland, except you have a freelance contract with a company there?

Correct, but isn't that better than Nigeria's wage disequilibrium?

Princedapace:
This is exactly what I have always said. Any country can succeed if the masses pay attention to issues about governance and they can hold their leaders strictly accountable.

In all willingness to learn, how can we do that? Pardon my ignorance

codemaniacs:
You're very ignorant..

Nigerians have protested against bad governance many times.. But a lot of the protesters have been killed by the government and the security agencies.

thanks very much. What are we supposed to do in this situation?

phazotron:
Nigerians like you are very few

Most are irredemably stupid

Well you are not wrong. But let us look at Nigeria. Our best shot at a better governance are our periodic elections. But they are usually rigged. So what do we do now

Welcome to a country, what abounds there is the needy. Priority is a mess I mean it really is a pity. When we rise up to challenge and decide to vote aright. Sabotage arises. Oh what a horrible plight. Hardwork pays so little. The real employer is connection. Corruption on the rise. Top dogs with evil intentions. Before a Reformation, we must work on our foundation. The people are frame, that sustains any nation.

Sheisenough01:
What they won't tell you is that the cost of loving in Switzerland is very high due to NGOs and other factors.


The increase is to ensure their citizens can meet up with the high cost of living. Rent, food, taxes gulp a lot.

But is our government helping the masses catch up with the skyrocketing prices?

ggirl4real:
I'm not an Atheist. That's all I have to tell you.

Ok then.

dukeprince50:
lol, I mean we don't have anything so fast to take us there, even with fastest jets, it will take us thousands, if not millions of years to get to mars

Chilll man. Scientific statistics States that we can get there in about a year. I'm talking of Mars oh.

Kekereekun123:
Yet the bible told us God changed the languages of people building tower of babel. Implying heaven is in the clouds. Well today we know its not there. The bible is a joke

they would get themselves killed, toying with altitude sickness. God could have been preventing a tragedy not the discovery of heaven which may not even be in our physical plane.

ggirl4real:
It would even be better if man keeps being curious and asking questions as you've said.

The issue now is that the answers about the beginning of life as well as creation of the universe and all its content, have already been provided in religious books for our religious folks so they refuse to engage their minds again nor be curious. They just conclude that what is written in that book is the truth and can never be faulted.

what you think is not true. I believe that the Bible, if I may was inspired of God. Written by man. Man is imperfect and susceptible to error. Therefore, the general idea of the Bible is true but the presentation could have errors. For God's sake the original language of the Bible is one which only few this day understand. In my understanding, do you know why the bible calls atheist fools? The have no idea of the bounds of reality(knew things keep being discovered. Have no idea what out there in entirety.) They encourage open mindedness but are not own minded enough to the possibility a creator. I will never force my idea on you but if my collective experience have driven me to
believe in God, a Christian one. I suggest you go with the flow and orientation life gives you. The truth will eventually show. If you have questions or contrary thoughts, please express kindly.

cristy149:
dude the only pes that is offline on Android is pes 11... pes 17-20 are fully online ... and this is 2020 mobile game developers only do online game ..so up your game and subscribe

thanks man. Guess I wasn't really up to date

sheggsliveth:
Is cracked I guess it's offline, you could get it on dvd since it's not large

This works for me and it's 2h, though I now have patch to 2020 which is 17gb

I intend using it on an Android phone.

Denique:
The children of the cofounder of Nike are just your average Americans because their dad didn't leave much stocks for them. This was someone worth billions of dollars in his lifetime.

Charity is a good cause but we all strive to acquire this wealth to leave an inheritance or at the very least, A Life Starter Pack.

I'll give to the charity but will most definitely leave the chunk of it for my children. I didn't come this far to have them go through the process of starting afresh again. O wrong nau! Very wrong!!

Imagine a child who's accustomed to a lifestyle now having to start from the bottom because they were unable to maintain such all because "parent" wanted to be hero/heroine??.??! That's depression!! WTF?!!!

Why are you giving to charity in the first place? Isn't it because someone is financially unfit or needs the support at least?

Why put your children in such a precarious situation??. I can never understand it!

Any parent who does that is only but selfish— such an inconsiderate parent!

speaking of which. Why all these inheritance hassle. Who says he left nothing to his children?

Pls fellow gamers. Is Pes 2017 an online game. I just downloaded pes 2020 and guess what? Online mode only. I was really disappointed. Don't wanna make that mistake again. And yes, the platform is android

Denique:
The children of the cofounder of Nike are just your average Americans because their dad didn't leave much stocks for them. This was someone worth billions of dollars in his lifetime.

Charity is a good cause but we all strive to acquire this wealth to leave an inheritance or at the very least, A Life Starter Pack.

I'll give to the charity but will most definitely leave the chunk of it for my children. I didn't come this far to have them go through the process of starting afresh again. O wrong nau! Very wrong!!

Imagine a child who's accustomed to a lifestyle now having to start from the bottom because they were unable to maintain such all because "parent" wanted to be hero/heroine??.??! That's depression!! WTF?!!!

Why are you giving to charity in the first place? Isn't it because someone is financially unfit or needs the support at least?

Why put your children in such a precarious situation??. I can never understand it!

Any parent who does that is only but selfish— such an inconsiderate parent!

We never know. He could have left something to the children, if any. The father's legacy has made a way for them. It's up to them to make something of it. I'm not saying that just because one had it hard the children have to but the cause he gave to could create more helpers to the society. The world is bigger than family alone.

sigiyaya:
To hell with Luke 18:22, to hell with your bible, to hell with your Jesus Christ, F00lish Africans that has refused to wake up from this mental slavery called Christianity and Islam always twisting every thing to favor their religious stupidity. Go and make your research Charles Chuck Feeney is not a Christian or a Muslim. How many of your billionaires and millionaires pastors, Apostles, prophets, Daddy GO's even your Rev.fathers that has no wife or children can ever do such a thing.

Calm down man. You couldn't even pick the humour in the statement. Everything you just said is very disrespectful. You don't know who you are talking to on this forum. Have you ever considered your claims without Anger. That emotion is blinding.

Denique:
E nor born ni? Hmmmm

Even though. It's an encouragement for the children to make their own wealth and name.

edoairways:
It is a disclaimer hence you can't sue the entity for airing such show or movie. If people choose not to respect rating, that is their headache.

Your are right. Goodness. We have digressed so far from the main question at hand. People are free to choose what they want. But claiming that something with immoral content adds more value than one without, that the issue to me.