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This has got to be the most interesting and intellectually stimulating thread I have seen on Nairaland in years!

Great initiative, and if done properly, this conference will certainly boost the web industry in Nigeria.

Pardon me if I have missed it in the previous posts, but - is there a budget for this conference? I know a lot has been done with regards to good people offering free web hosting etc, but surely a lot of things will still need to be paid for in organising this conference, which is where more than likely, the issue of sponsors will come up.

My question is, if there was to be an approach to a potential sponsor, or if a potential sponsor shows interest now and the question of 'What is your budget' comes up (which it more than likely will) - do we have an honest figure - and break-down - at this stage?

Thanks.

Thanks, @Yawa.

Well @Jesurun07 I'm glad that worked for you.

Of course, I did not expect you to use the code 'as is' - you will always NEED to fine-tune it to suit your needs!

@jeshurun07 - I have sent a sent solution to you via email.

Well, @jeshurun07 - I posted what I believe is a possible solution to the issue you raised, but it appears it has been deleted/blocked (whatever) for some reason.

Too bad.

scary,

Hi Alleno,

I thought I saw your wave id here a while ago, but it appears you removed it.

Anyway, I have set up a public wave (open to all) with the title WaveNigeria - can you hook up to it?

I still find it hard to believe how this happened!!

Full Story at: http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/10/16/australia.baby.train.escape/index.html#cnnSTCText

See CCTV video of this near-tragedy at: http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/10/16/australia.baby.train.escape/index.html

A six-month-old baby had a miraculous escape after his stroller rolled off a railway station platform and into the path of an incoming train.

[center]https://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/10/16/australia.baby.train.escape/art.channel7.baby.train.jpg[/center]

The stroller rolling towards the edge of the platform.

The incident, which happened Thursday at Ashburton railway station in Melbourne, Australia, was captured by CCTV.

The footage shows the baby's mother momentarily letting go of the stroller, which then rolls over the edge of the platform. Second later, a train pulls in to the station.

The stroller and baby were dragged 30 meters (33 yards) further up the track before the train came to a halt.

John Rees, a spokesman for train operator Connex, told Australia's Channel 7 television station: "It's a miracle this baby wasn't killed. The baby managed to escape with just a cut to the forehead, I'm told. It's a complete miracle."

The baby boy was quickly reunited with his distraught mother. He was taken to Melbourne's Royal Children's Hospital but was later discharged.

@Dr Ayo,

I am presuming you mean restricting text entered in a textarea? I am not quite sure that the 'maxlength' attribute is supported for textarea fields (it supports the 'columns', 'rows' and 'name' attributes). It is supported in text fields.

For textareas, you can still use the maxlength attribute but with some Javascript help.

Check this web page out for a sample script that should make this clearer:

http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex16/maxlength.htm

Hope that helps.

Personally I prefer the current look, compared to the proposed one. My main reason: nice as it is, it looks rather cluttered and busy when compared to the current look.

You got a good thing going here Seun - just let us continue enjoying it!

This is one of the situations where I agree with the old saying: 'if it ain't broke, do not fix it!'.

@digitalize,
When you say 'the other systems' I guess you are speaking of the client machines? If so, if you have a DNS server on the network and the clients are on the same network and configured to use that dns server, all you will need to do is ensure the ip address - and alias, for example - are configured in DNS, and the clients should rceive that information.

What operating system is your intended application server runing?

very possible.

1. Decide what web server you will be using on the intranet: Apache, IIS, Domino etc. In many cases, this decision will affect how you develop your application, and vice-versa. install this webserver on designated server
2. Develop your application
3. Load/install this on to the web server decided upon.
4. Configure web server. The name of the site does not ONLY have to be the computer name or ip address - as @goldincome said, you can use DNS and set up an alias for the site

Let us know what web server you are looking at using, and I am sure we can contribute to helping you sort it out.

Thanks, @Yawa-ti-de.

@nitation,

Your apology and my reply - in which I had asked for an apology, not to me of course - crossed.

I have now seen it, and am happy it has gone this way. I am sure @kolitos is happy as well.

Well done, and thank you.

nitation:
@ Xanadu

On the contrary, you are totally off topic! What is wrong with this forum, once we can't provide substantial response to a topic or we observe that someone is commenting positively, the next thing is to insult! You don't fucking have any reserve right to label me in such manner - Maggot!

@nitation - your response is no different than I expected. Your immediate response to my initial post, where I exposed your comments as full of arrogance and patronage, confirms exactly what I said.

Tell me: what exactly is 'positive' about your comments about Nairalanders above? What is positive about your comments about @kolitos? Take a look again, and tell me.

You know what? You have gotten away with this for so long, you did not expect anyone to call you to order. You make yourself a tin-god with all your 'cut-and-paste knowledge', and you think a public forum is a place to belittle people who come here to learn and share?

nitation:
@ Xanadu

On the contrary, you are totally off topic! What is wrong with this forum, once we can't provide substantial response to a topic or we observe that someone is commenting positively, the next thing is to insult! You don't fucking have any reserve right to label me in such manner - Maggot!

And you dare call out to the moderators - really? The reason I quoted your statements is so you can go back and take a closer look at them - the moderators should do so too, and see if, in all sincerity, I was wrong in my opinion.

This is not like me to go this way - but as I said, I think someone needs to call you to order. And hopefully the message will go across to all the self-acclaimed 'experts' who see Nairaland as a place to ride roughshod over people who have genuinely come here to learn and share.

Listen - and listen good. You could very, very easily have contributed to this thread without making anyone feel 'small' for contributing to this thread. Why resort to the comments you made above?  

You have a choice here - you can either apologise and decide to change, or crawl into your arsenal of insults to pick fresh ones to throw at me - it matters not.

The moderators you have called upon have a choice too - look through all the statements I highlighted above and see whether or not my comments about the DISPLAY of arrogance is correct or not - or let this sort of thing go on - again, it matters not.

What matters is that someone has had enough of the patronage and arrogance displayed on some threads on Nairaland, and has made bold to let that known.

nitation:
@ DHTML && Yawatide

You don't expect people to comment because it's not about HTML and Flash, or website review. Na d problem with our peeps be that. They prefare to run away from important issues and attend to unproductive arguments.

We can give tutorials on how to go about it. Both procedural and OOP for whoever that's interested.

- nitation

nitation:
The simple answer to your point kolitos is because, the more interactive your program becomes, the more the database involvement. By your tone, it seems you haven't worked on large applications in the past or else, you should have a general idea about what we are talking about.

Kudos to your observation though:

- nitation

As usual - what a blatant display of arrogance and petty patronage!

Ah @kobojunkie - what can one say? Carrying on with this will only take us further away from the issue at hand - which is appreciating those photos, or not, as the case may be - and more into the issues of the perennial problems we have as a nation.

At least we agree that the original plan was a good one - I guess we have to hope (does any Nigerian still have this for the country?) that the deviation from the plan is arrested, and corrected - in this and all the other projects that have started off on a sound footing/plan.

These perennial problems?
1. Lack of continuty - each successive government wants to 'make their mark' - at new costs, to the detriment of the original plan
2. Nepotism - it does not matter that the post of Marketing manager, for example, requires a qualified person - just put my brother who dropped out of primary 4 there
3. Of course outright 'it is my turn' corruption - afterall, it is the 'national cake', is it not?

I am sure many of you out there can add to the list.

Sorry, @poster, my intention is not to hijack your post. It is just that the post has opened up interesting debates here.

Of course, @kobojunkie - I agree with you: why not put Nigeria's history, culture on display as well as provide means for visitors (tourists) to amuse themselves?  Like yourself, I have never been to Tinapa. You are right, the photos do not show any historical/natural/cultural landmarks. That is something I guess the management will need to do, if indeed such DO NOT ALREADY EXIST there.

One of the key elements in a business plan is demographic,s or market segmentation: who exactly are you offering your product/market to? In this regard, I remember clearly reading at the completion of the 'first' phase of the Tinapa project, an interview with former governor Duke where he mentioned that a major target was the set of Nigerians who frequently travel out of NIgeria for shopping and for holidays - the aim being to as much as possible provide a fitting alternative within Nigeria.

Whether or not the Tinapa project has met this objective, I do not know - but I think it is worth keeping in mind.

[And I do not remember what interview, what magazine or what date Governor Duke said this, unfortunately - so pls I cannot provide 'source']

Thank you, @kobojunkie. I agree with your definition, we can work with that.

So going by your dictionary definition of recreation - "by some form of play, amusement, or relaxation, any form of play, amusement or relaxation"
Tourism - taking the first definition: "the practice of traveling for pleasure". This word - pleasure - means play, amusement, etc. Is that agreeable with you? 
The second definition - the business of providing tours - is still slightly ambiguous, as the word TOURS is used there, which is one of the things we are trying to define. I am sure you will agree with this as well.

So in essence - while recreation is some form of play, or amusement etc, tourism is GOING TO A PLACE OTHER THAN ONE'S NORMAL RESIDENTIAL REGION to seek the same thing - pleasure, amusement, relaxation. What do you think?

Is it really possible to go on a tour without seeking relaxation, or some form of amusement, or means of pleasure? What is the essence of going on a tour in the first place?

Take a look at this:

Tourism and Recreation Common Ground
At a 1984 conference on tourism in Knoxville, Tennessee, participants discovered, among other things, that many recreation and tourism professionals considered TOURISM and RECREATION as two entirely different subjects. Parks and recreation professionals at this meeting called their promotional activities "RECREATION", while the tourism professionals identified the same activities as "TOURISM". At the conclusion of the conference, both professional groups readily agreed there was no large difference between tourism and recreation; precisely, the two are interrelated. Tourism cannot exist without recreation - it's the whole reason why people travel in the first place!

Source here: [url]http://www.ask.com/bar?q=difference+between+tourism+and+recreation&page=1&qsrc=0&ab=5&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lib.niu.edu%2F1989%2Fip890736.html[/url] (fourth paragraph)

So - what's my point? I think too much hair is being split over whether Tinapa is a tourism area or a recreational area, especially by @fegflu, with due respect. While I have no stake whatsoever in the enterprise, my understanding is that there are places there for amusement, relaxation, shopping.

Additionally, the owners have not said that it is for the generality of the people - or have they? I am very much aware that many residents of Orlando, Florida have not visited the Disneyland Resort there. Neither is it reasonably possible that all residents of Paris have visited Disneyland Paris.(By the way, are these tourist attractions, or amusement parks? @fegflu, have you seen them listed in your search for holidays with Thomas Cook or Virgin Holidays? So are they amusement parks or tourist attractions?).

The poster published, shared perhaps is the right word, photos of Tinapa that he/she thought were nice, and is obviously proud of. I am not sure if the post warrants a lot of the sort of comments one has seen here.

But of course, this is Nairaland - I stand to be 'CORRECTED'.

This is quite an interesting conversation, and an eye-opener to different sorts of thinking from Nigerians, at home and abroad.

I just wish to get some clarification of things - @fegflu, you have said more than once in this thread that Tinapa is not about tourism:

the issue is walataa concept of tourism in calabar and donald duke definition.

my piont is that it shouldnt b referd 2 as tourism - but amusement park.

cus as far as i am concern. I regularly go on holiday with Thompson international and Virgin Travells. And i have never seen calabar in their books as a holiday destination.

walaata are u reading this.

I got a question for you, @fegflu - no harm meant just a simple question: What exactly is toursim? Just a simple definition?

I would also like to direct this at @kobojunkie (I hope this is the same kobojunkie whose posts I have avidly followed here before now as they have always made sense) : Leading on from the above question, what is/are the diffference(s) between tourism and recreation?

Thank you both ever so kindly.

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mikesleek:
people i have a challenge here. I have an installation of sbs2008 and im trying to do routing on the server. That is i need to use the system to give out intenet access to other systems in my network but the systems are not just getting access to the internet. I configured DHCP on the server and clients are collecting IP address. HELP me o!

@mikesleek,
First off, I am assuming your SBS 2008 server is connected to the Internet via a router - why not simply configure your clients to use that router's ip addres as their default gateway? As long as the router and the clients are in the same subnet, they should have access.

Anyway to the question. Note that Microsoft's recommended configuration for SBS 2008 is to have a hardware device (router, firewall etc) between it and the Internet - no direct connection to the Internet.

To configure Routing and Remote Access (I'll call it RRAS henceforth) in SBS 2008, you will need to:
a. Add the RRAS role
b. Enable RRAS service
b. Configure RRAS
Follow the steps below and you should be sorted:

1. Add RRAS roles
a. Go to server Manager (Start>>Administrative Tools>>Server Manager)
b. Right-click Roles, click Add Role. if the 'Before you begin' page appears, click Next
c. From list of roles, select (check) Network Policy and Access Services. Click Next
d. Select the RRAS options - remote access services, remote access service, and routing
e. Click Install

2. Enable RRAS - By default, the Remote Routing Access service is diabled, and you will need to enable it:
a. Go to Services (Start>>Administrative Tools>>Sevices)
b. Look for Routing and Remote Access  - right-click on it, click properties and enable the service

3. Configure RRAS
a. Go back to Server Manager
b. Expand Roles, and look for the role you just added - Network Policy and Access, and expand it
c. You should now see the Routing and Remotre Access role. Right-click on it and click Configure and enable Routing and Remote Access
d. Click Next on the Welcome page
e. On the RRAS setup wizard page, select NAT and click Next
f. On the next page, it shows you your available WAN connection that you wish to share. Select that, and  click Next, Next, and that completes the procedure.
Now note: it is possible in step (f) that your wan facing NIC might be greyed out - if this is the case, back up on step to the RRAS setup wizard page, and instead select the last option, 'Custom Configuration'. Click Next, select NAT click Next. Complete the wizard, and that's you done.

Any queries, let's know here. Good luck.

savesoul:
Most of you posters on this topic are a disgrace to this country.

As Nigerians we are not supposed to take shit from anyone, what has this Apology got to do with electricity bad roads or bad governance?

So because we have various forms of corruption in our country, when somebody insults us, we should keep quiet? Nonsense Absolute nonsense!

Thank you!

With reference to Sony's apology - this is one day I am proud to be Nigerian.

[And pls, you really do not have to respond to this if you have nothing to say!]

Well said - but was Boko Haram leader Mohammed Yusuf's death natural?

Quote from lonewolf

Cry me a river, weep me a sea, then go fishing in both.

There's a difference between idealism and realism. In an ideal situation, summary execution is not the best. Rule of law, innocent until proven guilty and all that lawerly nonsense. In the real world, however, where a government has a population to protect, decisions makers are entitled to be pragmatic. I will allude, again, to Obama, the custodian of change. .::Rolls eyes::. Obama promised transparency but when it was time to release pictures of American war vets molesting and maiming Iraqi prisoners, he sat on it. Why? Because it was the pragmatic thing to do. Even though it would have been ideal for him to release the pictures.

Again, when Somali pirates hijacked American sailors, what did Obama do? He ordered the pirates shot. In cold blood.

Sitting down in the comfort of your living room, on a Saturday morning, eating biscuit and moaning about due process is hardly a realistic option when a bunch of morons have decided to visit 13-century beliefs on a struggling developing nation. And in the final analysis, as we develop a jurisprudence for dealing the with terrorism and terrorists, we'll begin to act differently. But in the mean time, kill the motherfuckers.

Hear, hear!

Nice and clean. I totally agree with Yawa et al - a contact form has more or less become 'standard' these days, and it certainly would make the site more user-friendly (as opposed to having the user open their email client  etc).

Tech Pros:
my advise

as a starter, try as much as possible to avoid using template.

Just out of curiosity, @Tech Pros - just why do you  think it best to avoid using templates?

o9999:
For all those who HAIL mend for the bombing,
una do well jare, after all, na dem get the oil wey de flow for the atlas cove.

But remember,
When kidnapping started, na only white man them de take, na so all of una follow rejoice say YES! make the white man commot for Niger delta leave the work and oil for them,

As white people finish for there, wetin happen? na una pickin, brothers, sisters, mama etc them begin kidnap. Y una no de CLAP for them now na!!!!

As them they bomb everywhere so, make we all de hail oh!
At least while we can becasue very soon, there will be no more facilities to bomb, them go begin bomb una houses

If dem de fight good fight, since them begin the fight WETIN THEM DON DO FOR THEM FELLOW NIGER DELTANS

This oil wey we wan use wipe the whole nation so, make the owners of SUN no go but blanket for am say make we nigerians no de recieve sun oh!!!

The most sensible post here so far, IMHO.

You have houses and properties in Abuja (70% of that city is said to be Igbo-owned) according to ElRufai (2007).
You have billions of houses and investments in Lagos, PH, Calabar and northern and southern states

What happens to these investments when you are no longer Nigerians? Are you going to uproot the buildings and move them to Enugu? Do you have the right to own property in a country where you are not citizens or (legal) permanent residents?

Not sure why some have taken issues with the original poster on his questions.
But methinks that anyone who seriously considers a break-away as the Biafra promoters do, should see those questions as very valid ones.