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Fynestboi:
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hi. please you didnt contact me again. I need you to call me dont have your no again. thanks

MULLAH123:
What is kosso please?

This is it.

gurujoe:
I want to use this platform to thank Ymodulu for the great job!

He has laid the foundation on which any serious mind could work on without asking unnecessary questions.

It only takes a strong mind to reveal his business secret & when it does that take the full advantage.

MY ADVICE TO PEOPLE THAT WANT TO TAKE THE RISK

. having a partner in business is good, it reduces the risk let say an Igbo and housa guys or Yoruba & housa...
. try starting small & u build up. Let say 1j5 appr. 1.5M
. work with people that knows the in & out. Here the housas
. don't escort the vehicle you will incur more road expenses but make sure you got your vehicle from Union. From my Kosso experience
. make sure you have the necessary documents. Here custom clearance & Union papers. It helps avoid police/ tout wahala .
@ the guy with 5M to invest I am not impress with your post.
Thank u all!

you did the kosso business?

Guy you get mind oo. i chickened out. Do you still source from Taraba or ina don enter Sambisa?

[size=14pt]BREAKDOWN[/size]

x240:
Let us even assume he has the funds.

He has stated he used FBN, Gtb and diamond.

I operate a Platinum Card for one of these banks and the maximum Dollars I can transfer, cash or even use over POS or at is $5000 per month and $30000 a year.

So how was he able to move over 70 million naira. That's like $250,000 between Nigeria and Cameroun. Gtb or Diamond does not have a branch there neither FBN and you wouldn't for the love of Satan dare move such amount across ikom. If there is any axis so dangerous for road robbery after Kaduna-Zaria-Kano that axis would take the cake. I have experience with people buying bananas in Cameroon so I am talking from a point of clarity not ignorance.

He would do well to clarify such.

Sir first of i never said i transfer such amount directly to cameroon.

Secondly, Sir you dont transfer to a foreign account. You transfer to Nigerian Agent BDC at the Border. This agent gives you the conversion rate and amount in Naira to pay. Thats how it is done. This nigerian Bdc at border is also responsible for converting the cash. Whem the farmer sees this. Transaction is done. Now the Bdc sending the money to cameroon is his work.

Clearing at Cameroon requires Their currency which is not a problem, its equivalent in Naira is 150,000 for a cameo depending on category of cameo.

Thirdly Sir, redrawing for minor expenses is done at ikom. As there are several banks.


Finally, Sir with all due respect am not trying to be insultive but you coming out to say transferring N70,000,000 a day is not possible is ridiculous. Please go visit a BDC to school you more.

You want to send N56million to a foreign country and you are using platinum cards? for whatever you believe sake in 2016??
Sir please ignorance is also a disease. Go find out how things are done. Nigerians are smarter. Lets take on one on one on this. Common $1M is moved out a day by several shipping companies. So i know what i say.

AleAirHub:
I was at Tombia market in Yenagoa today, to get few things for stock and cooking items . I was told that a mini rubber basket of tomatoes is 12k why the main basket was no go area.... The minimum amount sold today was N200 per 5seeds[very small].

Well am short of words....

We planning by next week to expand our base like 1 J5 to Each States with high demand. We conxluded our research now in Illorin - Kukulende market, Minna Niger State- Kure Market, Abuja - Wuse 2 Market.

jsnow90:
Ymodulus, Thanks for this insightful narrative. I can not be more grateful

I would to ask you some questions.

Thanks Brother.
Go on.

1. Did you have to register or go through any official documentation with the customs of F.G.N. as a tomato importer? Did they give you any hassle?

Hahaha. Brother fight Corruption.

You really dont need that. Though we bribed 15k each to have our way. To have a legal paper cost 40j. These enables you get into cameroon as you like. Also note you can go to some areas in cameroon without been harrased. But avoid Police. Though cameroonians love money and can kill for a bribe.

Simple Answer in short words: If you want to go by the law, you need to have a paper pass to enter cameroon freely and the price of that paper pass is N40,000. Aside this nothing else. If you dont want to go this way

2. During transportation of the goods, did you follow the drivers or they delivered the products independently from Cameroon to Nigeria? If yes, how did you find them and how were you sure they would be loyal?

There are two transportations.
1. From cameroon to inside nigeria after the boarder. A park in Ikom. ( a Cameroon car and a cameroon plate number. This car cannot exceed ikom).
2. From Ikom to Lagos. A nigerian vehicle with a nigerian plate number.

We send them independently. Brother dont be scared trust me everything is documented on a waybill reciept. All these drivers are under a union they dont misbehave. Hausas are honest and also laws are in place.

3. When you bought the over 5000 baskets of tomato, did the drivers of the lorries move in a convoy or individually?

Yes almost all left at once., independently. The advantage of them moving in convoy is that when one breaks down on road, the others can assist. For example whem 7 broke down at Benin ore and Sagamu/ Mowe- Ibafo. The others assisted in repairs and drawing the vehicles.

Today 1000baskets. 1 J5 left alone he is already in Ogun.

4. What measures did you put in place should incase any of the lorries broke down in an isolated area? How would have been able to solve this kind of unforeseen problem?

No measures. We only inspect the behicle before we agree with the union head that we love the vehicle.
Beside if it spoil in an isolated area they will get mechanic and fix it. But most Drivers know how to repair the cars and they carry box tools. But we always tell them to move in convoy

5. If I can get a military personnel to follow the drivers on their voyage back to Nigeria, will it reduce risks? will it change anything?

Yes it if the military personnel are like 4 in a car with guns. Yes it will reduce all those unnecessary settlements. However you must pay the union fees. And also rit gurantees extra security.

6. I understand that in a typical Nigerian market of today, you can't just bring products and start selling. There have to be a union and all sort of people who would have to give you permission. How did you tackle this problem? How were you able to penetrate the market?

Yes in Lagos state for example.
You will have to pay Revenue fees to the state government before your produce can be sold or your vehicle enters the mile12 market. Its N4,000 revenue. Now also your Dealer of tomatoes is already under any union. You are just using him as a front. Do you understand?

your Tomatoes Dealer has a commision for every basket. it could be percentage basis which is 10% non - negotiable or it can be another way. If you gives him commision based on percentage you wont pay revenue and all he would do so. However if they reverse is the case. you will pay such.

Looking at the fact that you are 23 years of age, you really inspire a lot of people here, and I can only wish you more success and even more success. I await your response. Thanks!

Thanks Sir

EnterPRO:
this is really impressive. kudos to you both.


mind sharing if you followed the J5 convoy or you stayed back in Cameroon and monitored them on phone, giving instructions to sell for the ones that broke down?

No i didnt follow the J5 we are still in cameroon. It was a difficult task trusting an Hausa man you met once in the market with large sums of money running into millions. But we were just confident enough. We understand and trusted the honesty of the hausas. So our money are been sent back to us.


Note: We specifically dont allow the drivers to carry any Yoruba or igbo boy. we tell them we want hausas all through. Please note this is not tribalism. we followed the instructions of the Alhaji in the market at ikom he loved the fact we were young. he then schooled us properly.

Note also that when the 4 J5 vehicle got spoiled it did at Benin Ore Road. we instructed them to sell. These they did and sent out money back.

Lordtrillion:
Wow . No risk, No reward.
I'm really enjoying this. Make I park well learn new ideas from my Ogas them @Ymodulus, @Izikjon
But come oh, Ymodulus. I thought you were in camp
Wishing you both all the best.

Oga you understand that thing right?


Who Camp Epp?

bikinisexy:
Ymodulus... This business is capital intensive. I want to start it, but donno if the little allawee I gathered can start it. Pls enlighten me on the start up capital. Since u said its a business we can delve into by ourselves.

Ehm that questiom is a tricky one.

Let me explain. If for example you want 10Baskets. A J5 wont qant to transport 10Baskets to your location because transportation a lone of 150Baskets ( 1J5 ) is 150,000. However if you have someone who loaded and have some left over. tell him you will pay based on your space occupied.

Like yesterday one of our J5 took only 121Basket remaining 25Baskets all to lagos. But we had to pay for 25 Slots. thats almost 30K loss already.

However we plan to recover the loss today by forcing and making sure we add extra 25 baskets anyway possible to the J5.

note you can add more baskets to a J5 however to prevent the product from decaying due to hear. You take care by leaving it at 150

Now another thing is your location. yes you might send 10Baskets to Lagos succesfully and pay your transport. However what if you stay in warri?

Many sellers goes to Lagos. Few go to warri. All these factors contribute to things in deciding your initial startup capital. However Never say never. Thats the secret

winetapper:
lol so please tell us..
is it necessary we check our blood pressure during business transactions

My Brother, investing 56Million+ on Perishable Goods alone.

You loose all your life or gain.

You just have to proove yourself right. No time for stories.

sonnie10:
Bros. you get mind. 7000 basket @ #10000 each = #70M

#70M on perishable goods fit cause high blood pressure for some people.

here

africanman85:
Can u give us a breakdown of the expenses involved ?

Yes i will do all breakdown,i promise to do so. However i camt do breakdown for bribes amd all so i will lump them under a tag called bribe/ settlement. Ita not funny here am browsing at N3.5 per KiloByte with my Mtn. so i will make my post so direct and straight to point.


Today i paid for 1000Baskets. These guve estimated profit of 2Million.

anthney87:
Ymodulus...
Is there anyway we also can tap from this?

We can buy and order from you and we also tap into this tomatoes turn gold biz opportunity.

pls reply asap so man can start making plans....

sorry sir. i will prefer everyone does it him or herself.


However what i must tell you is dont be scared even if you have 1Million Baskets. You can sell all a day. I mean a day.

Dont be scared.

I am so sure of 7,000Baskets in Lagos a day. And am sure of 1000 Baskets in Portharcout in a day.

Tomatoes is also been imported from Benin and Togo into Nigeria.





Note* due to experience you can sell 1,000 basket in portharcout and make a profit of someone who sold 5000Basket in Lagos.
PORTHARCOUT is the money market. Those people live a high life.

Acidosis:
You're a REAL businessman, a risk* taker!

Doing Business in Nigeria is tedious, I can imagine all you passed through settling those area boys & incessant 'tax' collectors.

I would like to see your expenses, ROI, etc.

Thanks so much

i will do so sir. In few hours. Am at the Border now processing custom clearance and all. After which i head to The Union Park. A cameo of tomatoes just got here.


Below is a picture of a cameo. It contains 500 Baskets. About to be loaded into 3 J5 vehicles. However i want to use a Boxer J5, as it contains more tomatoes than normal J5.

A boxer J5 contains 160Baskets.
A normal J5 contains 150Baskets.

Also union fees and clearance and loading and all have been settled at once

The tomatoes Business is one whixh is best runned with self-sponsored funds. as anything can go wrong at any point in time.


Next i will be giving a breakdown of fees and expenses etc.

[size=14pt]SetBacks[/size]


1. PERISHABLES/ Poor State of Vehicles:
Tomatoes are Perishables, some J5 got spoiled on the way. And when this happens. Just be sure you have a back up plan and hope it happens where there is a presence of settlement. Out of almost 48J5 - 51J5. 7J5 got spoiled on transit. Some were repaired but 3 J5 about 450 Basket got Sold at extremely ridiculous price of 3K/Baskets.

2. BANK TRANSFER:
Thanks to My Bank. I love Diamond Bank. This Bank made transferring of money so easy for me. I transferred millions with ease and instant reflection.
However i hated the fact that bank customer care always  calling me to confirm if i transferred such amount.  Even after confirming it,  they will give you one call.
Shout out to FirstBank. Hehe i cant believe i am saying this about firstBank. but una don try small. I am impressed.

3. THUG FEES:
We loose much money to area boys and road side thugs. For example- W give every J5 Driver as much as N10,000. This is set aside to bribe police and soldiers and area boys on the road. In a certain area of  Enugu  State the youths demand as high as N4,000 just to allow the vehicle have their way.
some youth wont want to work, rather they will just be on the way trying to get money from others. Its so annoying.

4. RIDICULOUS UNION FEES:  We see fees that we begin to ask ourselves, if such words exist in the dictionary.  We dont pay such ridiculous fees in Cameroon, then why Nigeria? Nigerian Government needs to Look into this.

5. NATIONALITY: Too be honest visiting cameroon and doing business in cameroon is not an easy task. We try to hide our nationality. When and If they should know you are a Nigerian, they will try to exploit you by all means. I have been in the currency business ( Dollars to Naira to Yuan for roughly  7months amd i am very versed in it. My final year thesis in the university  last year was also on currency so i kmow every in and out ). But in cameroon i was taught to not Brag. These guys will give you ridiculous  exchange rate and see you have no option but to pay. At times they rub this daylight robberry directly to your face.
Imagine we buy a Can of Coke at N400 whem converted into naira. when i asked an hotel attendant why things are expensive she replied that we should stop acting as nigerians. Because they believe Nigerians are rich.
We handed her N5000 which she thanked us and acted as our tour guide through out our stay.

5. BANKS RESTRICTIONS:  GTBank Needs to step up her Game.  In Diamond Bank, a savings account holder can transfer up to 10M a day  without  hassles all from Mobile App. Gtbank restricts transfers to N1Million. Also Gtbank Tramsfer is very slow as compared to Diamond. My Friend Had a hard time transferring Funds.

6. NETWORK ROAMING:
Roaming at N40/Minute isnt fun. Note i said N40/Minute not N40/Second.
The implication is this:
- When i am recieving a call they charge me N40/Minute. Even if the call is just for 3Seconds i will be Charged N40.
Ahhhhhh!! Iyalaya to all those Flashers :-)
Men Diamond Bank Customer care agent just dei tell me say sir hold on while i confirm these details. i told her madam, confirm it and call me back.
 Hehe!!! Recharging Phone Ko easy.
- Mtn Roaming is not so nice. The network is Pathetic. I had no option but to  use it.

7. FOOD:
No food like Nigerian Made Food. I couldnt eat some trash. so i resorted to drinking Soft Drinks and Snacks.

MizMyColi:
Please don't let Jadekitana see you upload pictures of your meal.
You will be declared broke by her standards

hehe. .

She should help the boy

[size=14pt]Success[/size]

Every Business idea needs three things to run succesfully- Idea, Funds and Courage

1. IDEA: I had the idea, i saw the need for tomatoes, i saw a vacuum, i then searched for s solution.

2. FUNDS
Having a business  Idea is 1 Thing, having capital to run all your idea is another.
a. Ymodulus- I did the business self sponsored. Though added Close Friend's money. I personly bought a total of 6,556 Baskets of Tomatoes. These were mine.
b. IzikJon:  got 700Baskets of Tomatoes.

3. COURAGE:
Several people have funds but dont have the courage to try. It wasnt new to me. I didnt get to where i was without risking. i have lost and gain. Its Life.

4. PROFIT:
I Ymodulus personally love to risk all in business so i can rise fast. I always love to set a high target that can make me better than my mate. I had a mindset to hit a total profit of 10Million in a 2-4day frame. Hehe.

IzikJon wamted just any profit above N1Million.

*Making necessary calculations. It cost us N9,993.7 to get a Cameroon Basket of Tomatoes to Lagos. And this Basket goes as high as  13,000 - N14,000 in lagos. However we asked our Tomatoes Dealer to sell all the tomatoes at a flate fee rste of N12,000.

5. LANGUAGE
I hate to say this. But if i must say. Please learn one of the Major Languages. If you plan doing International Business. Its a big Plus. In our case we spoke Hausa to an Hausa Man who them translates to French and one funny Language Cameroon Tomatoes producing area speaks.  We settled our Hausa Interpreter N25,000 and bought him a new Gionee M5 Mini.

6. HONESTY
Some things can not be bought. In Mile12 Market our Dealers do sell and send money back to us without we been present. Hehe.

7. LOCATIONS
Our Decision of sensing our tomatoes to several locations ( Isoko Marker Warri- Delta State , OilMil Market Portharcout Rivers State, Abbdjdikw Aba Abia State ). Was a big boost to us. We ruled the market.

8. FRATERNIZATION
We became friends with most top boss from Head of Customs to Immigratiom to Head of Union Markets. We bought drinks for those who needed drinks, cigarettes for those who needed cigarettes. All in a bid to get what we want. Yesterday we successfully became close to the Head Military officer here.


i wont want to upload some pictures. For privacy sake

mployer:
Interesting..

Sounds more like an adventure...Hope you recover all theses expenses when the business finally starts.

Ability to speak Hausa is an added advantage to you, Just the way I mingle with the Igbo boys in Alaba and Idumota.

hehe! our expenses so far including transport and hotel bills and gifting to fulanis and local farmers is N306.780 as at today.

This is no issue as our profit will cater for it.

More pictures to come soon.


The picture of reciepts are union and state clearance pictures in ikom. And all..

We were so happy because the tomatoes we saw at Cameroon was as so described.- In Hausa " Jajaye Kaman Jini" :- As Red As Blood, Big and succulent. Have a view below


Here are some pictures..


We saw 5Alive. we were sooo happy. I couldnt risk drinking some rubbish cameroon pissy drinks.

Day 4: JOS - BAYELSA
Based on the information we got from the two tomatoes Dealer we have in lagos. They informed us that to go into the republic of cameroon we have to go through Bayelsa.

- We boarded a sienna through Plateau Riders to Abuja. We paid him extra to take us to the Airport at Lugbe.

- From Abuja we flew to Portharcout, and then board a bus to Bayelsa. This was the shortest route as bayelsa had no Airport. On getting to Bayelsa town i was troubled i recalled that bayelsa had no bordering town to cameroon. Thanks to my Google Map.

- We immediately  called our Tomatoes  Dealers in lagos and informed them of developments. My Major Dealer then told me a driver came down from Cameroon now with Tomatoes. We collected the driver's  number and we asked him questions about getting there. We then found out that we have to go through Cross River Calabar via a local  government call Ikom.

-We then went back to Portharcout. On getting to Portharcout we heard from a passerby that Ph- Calabar  is a 7Hour Journey by Road, As there was no direct flight that day to Calabar. This we were not ready for. If you use to travelling by flight you will understand.

-On checking the various Airline websites, We flew back to Abuja then board another plane same day to AKWA-IBOM UYO. We did this as the direct flight to calabar that day left already. We also heard that UYO to Calabar is roughly an Hour Journey.

-We got to Uyo and then took a vehicle to Calabar. We booked an hotel slept over till next day.

Day5: Calabar - Ikom. To Cameroon.

-We Checked out the hotel at calabar around 6:20am morning and headed to a park Called Ayade or Ayare Park ( Cant recall exact spelling but the park/pronunciation  is owned by the Current State Governor of Calabar. So we heard).

- We got to Ikom Local Government. And then made several Enquiries about heading ro cameroon. We got to hear that we cant get into cameroon without running  several  papers or bribing our way through. We decided to follow the latter. As it was the most Viable at that time.

-When we got in. We made research about where tomatoes can be obtained. We heard several Places, which we declined and headed to an area Filled with Hausas. we mingled spoke and interact in Hausa with them and they directed us.

- We made necessary  findings, till we were set to start..

We were so happy because the tomatoes we saw at Cameroon was as so described.- In Hausa " Jajaye Kaman Jini" :- As Red As Blood, Big and succulent. Have a view below


Special ShoutOut to Josites*. We enjoyed our Relaxation at the Tuscany and Resort Centre.

Day3: Bauchi State / Jos.
- We woke up safely without been hurt by any herdsmen. They are lovely people. We drank live Cow Milk . i touched  cows easily and we all talked. We gave the fulanis N10,000 as a token of appreciation and then bidded them fairwell. They even saw us off through the bush down till we got a vehicle.

- We took a vehicle and headed straight to Bauchi to a town calles  Til De Fulani. This we did all to no success. In the town we were advice to go to another called Maga-Mungo Man. We went from Maga - MungoMon Village  to Gada to Angwari. All to no success.

- Same day we went to Borno State cause we heard we will be able to get in large quantity there. All these was to no success.

- Right in Borno State roughly about 30mins. We got to hear from another "Tomatoes Delale" in Lagos Mile12. That we can get tomatoes in Republic of  Cameroon. We asked him if he was sure, he confirmed to us that he was. He further added that 400basket of tomatoes came in from cameroon.

- This weekend us. my friend IzikJon said he couldnt continue on the trip. I told him not to worry. We both went back to Jos had a nice bath and went out to relax ourselves at Resort. All with the intention of travelling to Republic of Cameroon the Next Day.

[size=14pt]Soujourn[/size]

Having made all research necessary, i called a fellow friend of mine and i told him of my findings and asked him to make his research down south in warri before coming back to lagos. I also informed him of my desire to travel up north in other to buy these tomatoes.


My Initial Market Survey Summary, based on Mile12 Market.

These were my findings-

1. SEVERAL KIND OF TOMATOES BASKET -
- Hausa basket ( used in zaria , kano and katsina )
- Jos Basket
- cameroon basket

2. TOMATOES MARKET IN NIGERIA: I found out that there are 4 major producing states for tomatoes in Nigeria-
a. Kaduna: Zaria
b. Kano:
c. Katsina: Funtua, Birin
d. Jos: Barkin Ladi, Anpam West, Mougu, keran
e. Bauchi: Til De Fulani, Maga-Man Gumo
f. Gombe: Dadin kowa

3. PRICING: i will try all my best to lump pricing on a subtopic  on its own. Due to the changes  in price, and all. also i will add it to my story as we go on




My Travel Soujourn and Experience.

I wont want to bore you with unnecessary stories so i will be brief, i will be sharing how we travelled from states to states in search for tomatoes.

Day1: LAGOS - JOS
We travelled to abuja via flight around 3pm and then board a sienna vehicle to Jos. Getting close to Jos around 10pm we were attacked by thieves close to the Jos Science High school Road., lucky enough our driver was fast to manuever and had go back. we go to jos around 12 Midnight.  we slept at jos to the next day


Day2: JOS SOJOURN.
-we visited the Farin-Gada market in to buy tomatoes. On getting there we were dissapointed there was nothing. The sellers attributed it to lack of tomatoes. We decided to meet the "Sarkin Kasuwa". I wont lie you Alhaji was to blunt to us ( Ymodulus and IzikJon ). He told us we wont get due to scarcity and that the few available are been sold to loyal customers. i got discouraged and stopped speaking to him.

-We then left and went down to mungo. we heard we can get from that area. we visited mungo, anpam west. we got nothing. we went all were we were advised too go. we literally slept among Fulanis even when we knew of the current fulani herdsmen fight. we spent 2 nights down in the bush. This is to tell you how deep into the bush we went.

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nice

[size=15pt]The Market Research[/size]

Having been in the Yam business in time past, coming into the mile12 market wasnt new to me or running around the market.

I got to the market on 27th of April 2016, then went straight to the tomatoes section, looking for some hausa sellers.

I met a man who linked me up to a major tomatoes delale ( Delale is an hausa term for dealer ). I met the Delale and began asking him questions about the business. At first he was hesitant  been that my dress and looks was not in tandem with that of most marketers. I had to go native, speaking the Hausa language. i told him  that am interested in bringing tomatoes to the market to sell and if he can sell for me. He told me he can and took me round the market to show/ teach me the nitty gritty  of the tomatoes business.


Note: Some may ask why i had to meet the Hausa sellers and not any other tribe  like yoruba been the dominant tribe there. From my research, and having been a Yam Dealer in time past of up to 10,000 tubers in a day. I noticed that the Mile12 markets operates a Cartel Like system of Government. You cant just beat the Hausa Cabals of sellers. Also for you to survive in a new business you have to go with the HONEST party. The Hausas are very much more loyal in business/ open in business dealing than any other tribe.

[size=14pt]THE IDEA[/size]

Ater several thought of going into a new business which

Half way  into the month of April, i have been reading wide and far ( i read the papers daily), and i noticed that that the product TOMATOES has been on the High Side due to scarcity

- Even celebrities r complaining:
 https://www.nairaland.com/3090036/waje-bemoans-high-cost-tomatoes
- Lagosians complaining: https://www.nairaland.com/3091570/lagosians-groan-prices-tomatoes-skyrocket#45398311



 This is in Contrast to early Febraury this year when the price of tomatoes was as low as N300 / Baskets due to a Glut in the market. You can read here for more Information as to that date ( https://www.nairaland.com/2939685/tomato-glut-hits-katsina-markets ).

Having taken note of this development, i headed my way for the popular Mile12 -Ketu Market in Lagos state.

Hey Nairalanders,

As usual i have always enjoyed sharing my business soujourn all through out the years. And as several people here who know me, i do not believe in running a permanent business all through, i beling to the warren Buffet Business school of thought which believes that your business ideas and moves should be adaptable  to CHANGE.


Today am here to share my story on my quest for Gold. With much detailing to trial and error and success.

My story will be shared in the following line-up.


- The Idea
- The .....

CrazyScientist:
Ymodulus , I see you...

hehe.
I am still reading.

Typing...

Lies.. i use the samsung galaxy s7 edge. And have never experienced this

CaptainBomb:
the money you will make from with new keke can not be compare with old keke Model ; Bajaj 145 compare with TVS KING. Let me analyse how it how it work.
An Average Keke Rider will make 5000 now from that 5k you will pay money for Ticket and Booking which is Minimum of 1000 to 2000 daily depending on your route, after paying that , you will buy fuel , from the 5k after paying for the ticket as well , what you will have left will be 3k and from that 3k you will pay deliver of 2k and you will have 1k left for yourself..

you not answeringthe question.

didnt you save anything meaningful over that period of time?