Support the call for the division of Nigeria today and save yourselves from invaders from the Sahel. A stitch in time saves nine.
Mazi Nnamdi Kanu and IPOB saw it far ahead of time and warned everyone but your naivety got the better part of you.
The division of Nigeria will save millions of lives.
Support it today and while you can.

AjaanaOka:


Enebeli and Ojugbeli are actually Ukwuani/Aboh names. You will also find them among Ogbaru people in Anambra State who are cultural cousins of the Ukwuani. I do not know any Igala person who bears these names. But it there are, they borrowed them ultimately from Ukwuani.

Enemona is Igala. It has an Igala meaning and is used by Igala people till date.

The use of Alumona cuts across Nsukka and into the Oshimili-Aniocha axis of Delta State. I have no idea what it means, but the people I asked pointed to Igala as the source. If the name came from the Igala, then it has been altered in Igbo mouths, because the name in that form does not exist in Igala. The "-mona" ending is strongly suggestive of an Igala providence where a number of names with "-mona" endings do exist, eg., Ilemona and the already mentioned Enemona.


Well, the Ibaji people kind of fit what you're thinking here. These were a people on the border area between Kogi, Enugu and Anambra who are essentially a mixture of Igbo and Igala. They spoke both languages with equal facility; and ethnographic information from the last century and the late 19th century suggests that until the hardening of ethnic lines in late Colonial and post-Colonial times, they leaned more towards the Igbo, culturally. Their names seem to have been predominately Igbo (that is changing today), they took Ogbuefi titles and venerated Ikenga. They wouldn't have identified as Igala in precolonial times - but this doesn't mean they would have identified as Igbo either. They were simply Ibaji or Olu - as more hinterland Igbo called them.

So when you speak about some of these "Igala" women already speaking Igbo, you're probably speaking of the Ibaji people. There was a village in Awka that did marry quite a lot from Ibaji: Umubele Village. While Ụmụzocha travelled to Nsukka and the hinterland Igala villages (i.e., the non-riverine parts of Igala), Umubele travelled to the riverine areas north of Onitsha, covering the Anam communities, Ibaji and as far north Idah.

I did meet some of the last of the old generation of Ibaji women married to Umubele name, and I particularly remember one of them who went by a regular old-school Igbo name, but was known to everyone as 'nwanya Igala'.

Thanks for your response.
Talking about the Ibaji people, it is very clear they were more of Igbos than Igalas. The headquarters of Ibaji LGA is located in a community known as Onyedega which isn't far from Idah. Onyedega clearly has an Igbo origin as Igalas aren't known to use the prefix 'onye' in their names. The word 'odega' is another name that is found around that axis even into the Idoma area. We all know the popular comedian and actor, Francis Odega. Many Ibajis still bear Igbo names which they sandwich in the middle and leave it out in official functions due to the political climate in Kogi state. Many other communities in Abaji bear Igbo names till date apart from those ones that are clearly related to Nsukka people.
While studying the Igala history, it was stated that they migrated from the Kwararafa confederation and displaced a people known as the 'Okpotos' who were occupying the Idah environs. Could the Ibajis be the descendants of those 'Okpotos' who didn't flee and were absorbed by the Igalas? Could the Ibajis be a smaller Igbo group who were so influenced that they had a dual language at an earlier stage in history?
There are a people who still go by that name(Okpoto) not far from the Igala area. They can be found deep in Ebonyi and outlying of Benue states, their communities are none contiguous.

AjaanaOka:
I will only speak about Umuzocha. If Nsukka people are here, they will speak for themselves.

Umuzocha is not a mixed community in the sense that you seem to be thinking. There is no indigene-vs-settler, Igbo-vs-Igala dichotomy going on among us. We all are indigenes.

A brief background of Umuzocha people to make what I'm saying a little clearer:

Umuzocha is a splinter-group of a larger community in Awka known as Amachalla-na-Ato. Amachalla-na-Ato is wholly indigenous and has no memory of migrating from anywhere outside the boundaries of Awka, ie., they are autochthonous. When a group of blacksmiths from Agbaja-Udi area came and settled in Agulu-Awka, some lineages from Amachalla-na-Ato befriended the settler-smiths, learnt the art of smithing from them and took the name of Umuzocha. Thus of all the lineages in Amachalla-na-Ato, only the Umuzocha lineages are blacksmiths; the other lineages (Amudo and Amachalla) remained farmers.

Later, much later, during the age of itineracy, Umuzocha blacksmiths began travelling to hinterland Igala communities and the neighbouring Nsukka areas where they made and sold metal wares. Some of these travelling Umuzocha men married Igala women from the communities they sojourned in and had children who ( of course) were maternally of Igala descent.

There was no significant settling of Igala men in Umuzocha, apart from these wives that some Umuzocha men married. Igala men did not come here as traders, dyers or warriors - the way they did to some Nsukka communities. Absorption of female foreigners as wives does not give rise to mixed communities, as the tendency is for women to be absorbed and for whatever children they birthed to be raised as full members of their fathers' kingroup. This is why I say Umuzocha is not mixed in the sense you are thinking, and there is no indigene-vs-settler or mixed dichotomy.

I guess the absence of male Igala settlers in Umuzocha also accounts for why there are virtually no imprints of Igala culture on Umuzocha. The only Igala name that I know used in Umuzocha is Attah. Contrast this with Nsukka where there is a plethora of Igala or generic northern names - Asadu, Idoko, Abugu, Abba, Onoja, etc.

There is a masquerade-cum-deity that is said to have been brought by Umuzocha blacksmiths from Igala land. It is called Agunabo. If indeed it came from the Igala, it was repackaged and rebranded, because the name, for one, is an Ìgbò name and not Igala.

Long story short: Umuzocha is not mixed, in the sense of being a mixed Igbo-Igala community, with a group identifying as being of indigenous (Ìgbò) descent and another group identifying as being of settler (Igala) descent . No. It is a homogenous Ìgbò community. It is only mixed in the sense that every community is mixed - through intermarriage.

Thanks for the clear explanation of the Umuzocha community history.
When one studies the Igbo history especially the aspect that has to do with our relationship with Igala, one can observe a different pattern in the interaction between different Igbo clans with the Igalas. For instance, the Nsukka/Igala interaction which is the most investigated appears to be different with the Anambra/Kogi border communities. While in the Nsukka area there were structural Igala influences, in the Anambra area it appears to be mostly marital influences that happened without my knowledge on which side it tilts towards more.
In such intermarriages, it was noted from some sources that those Igala women married by men from these Anambra areas were Igbo speaking themselves. This had me thinking about who and who were actually Igalas originally back in the days and even today. There are some surnames that are shared mostly in that Igbo/Igala boundary that don't really sound Igala yet are widespread in southern Kogi. Could it be that those women where from such areas?
Examples of such surnames are: Alumona, Enemona, Enebeli, Ojugbeli, Onah, Ogbole etc.
I've been trying to identify the exact identity of those specifically with that surnames if they were a separate Igbo clan from Nsukkas or if they were actually Nsukka people or a separate Igala clan. Personally, I think they were a separate Igbo clan whose smaller identity saw them enveloped by the Igalas and as such took the Igala identity early enough. This might be the reason behind those ladies married to Anambra men speaking Igbo but claming they were Igalas. Those surnames didn't survive in Anambra today but you find them in Ukwuani, Enuani, Nsukka and Southern Igala territories.
It's my hope that you have an understanding of this topic especially what I wrote here.

helinues:


No, other regions can escalate things and continue with the back and forth fracas.

None of our headache

Thanks for being honest. Don't change the story tomorrow though.

helinues:
Good

Avoiding unnecessary chaos and confusion is not a sign of cowardice

So it is your suggestion that all other regions should sign similar 'peace agreements' with invaders who ocuppy lands without paying for them, graze their cattle on farmers farmlands and attack anyone who questions them. This is exactly how the British signed similar agreements with the different parts of Nigeria shortly before they colonized Nigeria. It's clearly Yorubas don't learn from history and are repeating it again but this time with a non-progressive people like the fulanis. Tufiakwa!
Others will be extremely foolish to follow the Yoruba example and suggestion.

Zulu11zulu:
ESN should block the exdit of anambra and enugu state to make sure that fulani terrorist did not close into the state just allow good people of benue in.

ESN knows exactly where to meet them. This is not the 19th century where you can be taken unawares. Anambra, Enugu and Ebonyi are well covered.

Oduduwapigs:
The Nigerian military is infested with terrorists.

Infested I mean fully infested, from givjng locations to bandits to giving first hand classified TAK coordinates to jihadists.

Bola Ahmed Tinubu save Nigeria now you brought in buhari remove the mess that monster created in Nigeria

The whole of Nigerian Army is a terrorist organization at present. If not so, those who clearly set the support given to fulanis would have pulled out and speak against it.
How can fulanis be destroying communities in Southern Kaduna, Plateau, Benue, Taraba, Kogi, Edo, Delta, Enugu and a host of others without any group of top military men observing and speaking out against it? It means all of them in the Nigerian Army are complicit in the destruction wrought by the fulani militias.
May the blood of the innocent villagers slaughtered by the fulani militia be on the heads of all those military men who can see the obvious genocide happening but choose to do nothing against it.

The terrorist Nigerian army can only kill unarmed villagers, protesting youths and students but will come up with all sorts of stories when it involves fulani militias destroying villages all across Nigeria.
May God punish all the stupid senators from the affected areas who can't stand up for the security of their constituents. May the blood of all the victims be on the heads of the foolish governors, senators, HOR members and all those who should speak up but have remained silent.
We from Biafraland are watching and documenting all the fulani moves and killings especially as they're moving south. Biafrans all over the world are aware of all that's happening here in Nigeria.
Death to the evil contraption.

Israel is yet to fire any missile into Iran. When they do, Iran will definitely feel it.

Iran should brace for impact and should also endure whatever damage will happen to them if they fail to intercept Israel's missiles. An eye for an eye makes the world see better.

LocalFARMERS:



Bunkering negatively affect the environment

So you don't know mining illegal mining also affects the environment? Don't you know one major cause of of erosion is illegal mining?
Don't justify the partiality in the evil contraption called Nigeria.

The terrorist Nigerian soldiers dehumanizing and killing off indigenous people within the Nigerian area since 1900. They have never defended the people from any external aggression or invasion but have raped and killed more indigenes and burnt down more communities.

LocalFARMERS:


They are two different thing

What are the differences?

Penguin2:
One of the problems we have this in country is that a lot of us do not know history. But I blame the government that expunged history from school curriculum.

I made a post of Oba of Benin commissioning Olumide Akpata’s project and speculated on how Akpata might be candidate of the palace due to Governor Obaseki’s running battle with the Oba which has led to litigations.

I made a point of how Governor Obaseki was following in the footsteps of his ancestor who betrayed the 35th Oba of Benin, Oba Ovonramwen Nogbaisi, in 1897 but some people were here challenging my assertion and I couldn’t help but shake my head at the level of ignorance of history that pervades even amongst those who claim to be educated and enlightened.

Well, here I bring you the story of Agho Obaseki, the ancestor of Governor Obaseki who betrayed the then Oba of Benin to the British.

To reward his betrayal, the British appointed him Prime Minister of Benin Kingdom after Oba Ovonramwen was exiled to Calabar in 1897 until 1914 when the son of Oba Ovonramwen, Oba Eweka 11, succeeded his father to the throne.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agho_Obaseki

Binis should stop mutilating the history of Aniomas. The way they claim their princes founded all Anioma communities, one will wonder if all Bini princes only moved into Anioma territory. Who are the other leaders that founded the other Edoid communities in Esan, Edo North and Urhobos? I wonder why Anioma people nowadays don't debunk those lies.

Iran in truth can hurt Israel but they'll be destroyed by doing so. The best thing for them to do is absorb whatever destruction Israel sends their way in the expected attacks.
You all can save videos and pix of Iranian cities because if it escalates, Iran will never recover.
Already, other Iranian enemies are salivating at taking a bite off her. Will Iran be wiser than Hamas? Only time will tell.

Chukwuka319:

Point of correction, brother.
Iran doesn't have up to a hundred million people in population.
The population count as of April 2024 is 89,670,137.
It's the second most populous country in the ME after Egypt, which is also the most populous Arab country.

Point of correction. Iran is the most populous country in the ME. Egypt is an African country.
Whatever is pushing Iran to attack better be prepared itself. Iran itself better have excellent defense system else it will difficult for her to recover after the fighting has stopped.

predictor1:
He should stop wearing Aba shoes. Period. How come everything else he wore and used which came from Oyo and Sapele looked well except the shoes the bad shoemaker from Aba made for him?

It isn't the fault of the Aba manufacturers that he failed to maintain the shoes. Millions of other people are wearing Aba made shoes without you even knowing it. Aba made shoes can be very good looking and long lasting than even China made shoes.

Observation: Reno's shoes are dirty, a bit above his size and looked uncleaned. Picture doesn't appear like it was shot after he had walked through a rugged terrain.
Overall Picture Outlook: Good looking except for his feet due to the complains above about the shoe.
Verdict: Reno should get/wear shoes his size and ensure they're well cleaned. It has nothing to do with the manufacturer.
Gossip: Whether Reno is broke or not, the appearance of that shoe did the picture a disservice and is marker to his level of cleanliness.

FatherOfJesus:
no, igbanke is a combination of Esan and Ika.

Out of the six quarters(villages) that make us Igbanke, which part is Esan spoken?

FatherOfJesus:
To be sincere, all igbanke don't speak Igbo.
Some communities speak ika while some speak Esan. Bini as a language has to root in Igbanke.

The ruler of igbanke is called Onojie, which is an Esan name. Ika people are like a melting point for Igbo and Edoid culture. The reason why they have Edo and Igbo culture to be sincere is still unknown but people are coming up with various hypotheses and the most accepted is that they are originally esan/bini people who were influenced by the igbos.

But this hypothesis does not make any sense to me if they cannot demonstrate how Igbo influenced them so bad that many of them changed their kings name from Oba to Eze.
And even if anyone ends up explaining it, it still goes a long way to demonstrate that igbos were at some point very powerful and they hegemonized the Bini kingdom into changing their culture and adopting Igbo culture. There's no where in history with evidence that all these happened.

Igbanke is an Igbo community of the Ika stock. Whatever Esan you find there is as a result of proximity which is common in many ethnic boundary areas. Igbanke has six quarters and all of them are Igbo speaking with fewer Esan borrowed words. Going East of Igbanke is heading to Esan territory where you find a community called Ekpon. Now this is the community with a proportionate mix of Igbo and Esan. From my estimation, Esan seems to be more influential in Ekpon but the Ika Igbo presence is also visible.
Igbanke call their kings Eze because that's their utmost word for a king just as it is all over Igboland.

As for the reason behind the mixing of cultures, it happens everywhere at border communities. From my observation, the Igbo/Esan mix is much more than the Igbo/Bini mix maybe because the Esans are more amenable to the Igbo republican nature and hence easily blend in with Igbos unlike the Bini that are engrossed in their monarchy. Most Bini that came into Ikaland were fleeing their monarchy. Some Esans came as far down as Asaba and integrated into their society. The same happened among the Igbos who went as far as Edo north. Do you know that the Igbo oja was found as far as Uzebba, northern Edo state?
By and large, the relationship among the tripartite of Igbo, Bini and Esan was a funny one. While there's no doubt that the Bini monarchy was respected by all, the Igbos still wanted their independence and fought Bini anytime they wanted to go beyond their level. The Esans accepted to have Enogies subject to Bini but didn't want to be called Bini people. The average people of the ethnic groups just moved and settled wherever they felt at home and communed with one another especially as they used the Igbo market days.
The Bini traders who came to trade at River Niger (Asaba) eventually settled in some of the Igbo communities on the path because they felt at home among them. Igbos who went to Benin for trade and other things settled in Benin and also around it but were forced to retreat after sometime leaving just a few scattered around after Abudu.
This is the best I could make out of the scattered communities around that boundary.

NaMe4:


False.

Communities may adopt a second language due to proximity, migration, intermarriage, trade, etc. Also many migrants claim indigeneship over time. Igbanke has always been Bini and is Bini.

What is the Igbo history in Igbanke?

Still waiting for the other communities in Edo.

If you're smart enough, you'll see that Igbanke is at the boundary created not long ago. It simply means that before Bendel state was splitted, Igbanke and other nearby Ika communities were all called Bendel/Ika Igbo. Igbanke isn't Biniland simply because they're found in Edo state. It's just common sense.
Igbanke is Igbo and remains Igbo just like Oghada.

NaMe4:


Igbanke is Edo and the Primary language is Bini. Ika is spoken there as a second language due to proximity with Ika communities in Delta North. And even the Ikas in Delta claim Edo heritage.

Which 'other Igbo communities' are there in Edo?

I don't write what I'm not certain about. I'll give you just one name for you to go and confirm. There are still more.
Another Ika community in Edo state is Oghada. It is connected by road directly NW of Igbanke. It also has boundary with Agbor. You can go and verify for yourself.

NaMe4:


Igbanke is Edo and the Primary language is Bini. Ika is spoken there as a second language due to proximity with Ika communities in Delta North. And even the Ikas in Delta claim Edo heritage.

Which 'other Igbo communities' are there in Edo?

You came late to market. Igbanke's story is well known and their people are speaking out about the marginalization by Binis. Personally, I've spoken with some Igbanke people and they clearly don't understand or speak Bini as a primary language. The Ika dialect is well spoken alongside Pidgin English. Very few older people understand Bini.
Their proximity to Agbor ensures the Ika dialect remains intact.
Once again, you're late to the market.

Meanwhile, see Ika people's response to Egharevba (Bini people) in 1939 i.e 85years ago. Don't make foolish claims next time.

Efewestern:


The Ijaws still wield so much power in the region and are one of the most dominating group. While they come behind the Ibibio-anang-Efik and Edoid when it comes to population, these groups don't know the essence of unity. And you are actually wrong to think these non-ijoid groups are pulling out of their Ijaw identity.

The IYC is one of factor that bridges the unity of they Ijoid groups. There are a lot of other factors that has made other subgroups go strong with their Ijaw identity and letting go of that identity means their end and possible subjugation. No other group in the whole of Southern Nigeria has been able to unite all of its groups like the Ijaws has.

The Edoid groups in Bayelsa are long gone. They have been so incorporated into the overall Ijaw body and you also need to know some have Ijaw ancestry. Even here in Delta, some Edoid groups are of Ijaw ancestry including some Urhobo clans. If linguistic isn't used as a uniting force, ancestry link will definitely be used.

Ok. Let me try and reason along with you. Let's discuss the ancestral claims of communities that connects them back to Ijaws. Can you mention some Edoid communities who actually have Ijaw ancestry? Let's verify from their culture, traditions and norms to see if they're actually Ijaws or not. If the claim of their ancestry is simply because IYC says so, then don't bother yourself.
Our education helps us to study a claim based on various factors to arrive at the conclusion of either confirming the claim to be correct or fraudulent. We just don't accept hook, line and sinker whatever claims a group of persons say.

I really want the Ijaws to unite all the Ijoid speaking people because I believe it's the right thing to do. That way, confusion is minimized and synergy maximized. Communities who aren't Ijoid but are comfortable and willing to align with them shouldn't be stopped. What I don't agree with is the forceful annexation of a people who have no ethnic or linguistic affiliation with you. This is what the Ijaws are doing to those ethnic groups near to them. Like I told you before, the Ogbias were never Ijaws and are still not Ijaws. There are many other such groups who aren't Ijaws and aren't willing to be aligned with the Ijaws but were forceful put into IYC. That some of them aren't speaking out doesn't mean they want it to be so. The pressure started during Adaka Boro's time when Ijaws were handed power in Rivers. The subsequent Ijaw led governments continued with and the climax was in 2009 when the IYC unilaterally included lots of non-Ijoid groups into their fold. They even came to claim Ndoki in Abia state. If we are to follow your argument, Igbos should have kept quiet as the IYC claims Ndoki. Below is one of such Ijaw claims of a non-Ijoid speaking people as having Ijaw ancestry. They no longer make such funny claims on Ndokis anymore. BTW, we know why they came for Ndoki. It is because of Bonny and Opobo.

I await your response.

proeast:


Igbos are actually indigenous in all SS states including Edo. Igbanke areas of Edo state are Igbos.


That guy you’re arguing with is never objective, he sees everything through the prism of politics. If you like, smack him hard on the face with facts, he will still remain obstinate in his tomfoolery.

There are more Igbo communities in Edo apart from Igbanke. Igbanke though is the largest of them all.

Jogs1900:

It doesn't still make them igbo because of their origin.

Think about this...Can the blacks in America ever deny their African origin?

Reason along with me. While the African Americans are very eager to know their ethnic/national origin in Africa, the Haitians who also came from Africa aren't that eager. When you can get the difference in attitude, you'll be able to understand why a lone African community surrounded by another group of black communities will eventually be subsumed.
Intermarriages are happening and migration too. The Igbo influence on them has been very great and steadily moving towards them. Ugbodu is right at the border which is why they managed to keep the olukumi dialect which is itself having loan Igbo words. The Igbo language is already dominant in the community/village.
Let me help you understand them better. Think of them like the Igalas who though speak a langauge classified as Yoruboid obviously but aren't considered Yoruba in any way. Just like you won't call Igalas Yoruba so also you can't call the Olukumis, Yoruba.
Their history for about two centuries has been with the Igbos mostly and to a lesser extent the Esans and Igalas.

Jogs1900:

That does not make them forget their origin.

Like I wrote before, only in Ugbodu, a small community is the Yoruboid dialect surviving. They speak mostly Igbo in Ugbodu. They are bilingual. You can't call them a Yoruboid people. What then happens to the Igbo language there? They are found in an Igbo dominated local government and surrounded by Igbo communities. Their probable origin will only remain on paper eventually.

Jogs1900:

There is Olukumi which is a Yoruboid group in Delta north.

The Olukwumi are today a bilingual people and can't be called a Yoruboid people anymore. Of the about 6 communities that share that heritage, only in Ugbodu is the Yoruboid dialect barely surviving. Igbo language has eclipsed the community and they're considered an Igbo community today.

Efewestern:


Actually, the Ijaws are the only groups that have been able to unify all related groups into a single umbrella. The issue you will face uniting the Edoid groups is the same issue you will face uniting the Igbpid groups.

There are Edoid groups that are fully Ijaws now. They go with the Ijaw identity and readily flaunt it. See me here debating the bond between the Efik/Ibibio/Annang and you see garfield1 fighting me to standstill not to group his people as one.

But not the Ijaws. They are fierce and have been able to command dominance even when we have a bigger group from the Akwa-Cross Axis.

It takes more than just having a branch of IYC and INC in your in a SS community to become Ijaw. A lot of those non-Ijaws accepted those groups due to the power the Ijaws haad in the old Rivers state. Today, the power of the Ijaws have waned and we see some of these communities charting a separate course. People aren't foolish you know. They ask questions over time when they see that the language is different. Without linguistic ties, it's very difficult forming a bond with diverse groups. Even the fulanis in the north had to promote Hausa language all over the north to unite the diverse groups there for a stronger political block. The Ijaw group is standing on a shaky foundation. It won't take time before it comes crashing down.
For the Efik-Ibibio-Annang, they can easily close ranks because they can communicate with one another in Efik/Ibibio. I've seen this happen many times. Despite how they kick openly, they will easily form a united front WHEN THE TIME COMES.

I really wish the Edoid can come together to form a united front but it seems so far fetched. One major problem is still language non-intelligibility. In case you don't know, some Edoids are still holding on to their linguistic brothers but there seem to be no help from fellow Edoids. I'm talking about the Udekama people of Degema town. The Ijoids around them are putting so much pressure on them currently even to the level of violence. It was similar pressure the Ijaws put on those other smaller groups you saw in Bayelsa and parts of Rivers. With Rivers being out of the grip of the Ijaws, a lot of those smaller groups now breathed a sigh of relief and are today exerting their real identity.

garfield1:


Oga,they are ijaws.what they have is rather sub tribes or clans but they accept their ijaw ness.why not limit yourself to the SE

I won't even waste my time with you again. Clearly, you didn't start this thread with any sincerity. Ndigbo are the biggest ethnic group in the SS. The fact speaks for itself. You can post whatever makes you happy.

garfield1:


The ijaws are number one sir.all those small groups in bayelsa see themselves as ijaws so who are you to to say otherwise? Always maintain your lane

They don't see themselves as Ijaws but don't make noise about themselves being different. They are not Ijaws and have their own ethnic associations.

garfield1:


The indigenous Igbos in CRS are called isobo in obubra lga and occupy just 5 Hamlets.i already counted the delta igbos.yes,I know the igbos in Edo(igbanke),very insignificant.i already counted igbos in rivers.i have excluded ikwerre please as they see themselves as a separate entity and government recognizes that.let us not argue that one or you go and open your thread.
Which part of bayelsa and akwa ibom do we have igbos and even if they are there,it is insignificant
IGBOS in ss are about 2.3 million as I calculated

Lol. What's your population for Anioma alone?