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seborrhic:A vulture will always hover around scavenging for spoils. He has no morals and thus is regarded as unclean animal. |
😂 😂 Domperignon, FSBoperator and HacheNoire, your useless propaganda will not stop the total obliteration of the terrorist regime in Iran. Of course, the US and Israel expects a decapitated serpent to rage and spew some venom here and there will them incurring some casualties but it won't stop their main goal. The terrorist regime must be exterminated. |
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ChiefOloye:When a whole neighbourhood is called Oniparaga in the SW, what else do you need to hear before you'll agree that the people there a majority drunks. There's also another area called Onipetesi in the SW. Alcohol drinks make up 80% of your region. Monkey tail, Agbo and all those concoctions are daily gulped by your women. |
lawani:Ok. Let me clarify that of Jos for you to understand clearly. The only time Yoruba death in the Jos crisis was very huge was that of 2008. This was because it was the only Yoruba 'dominated' area (not actually dominated but heavily populated) was hit badly by the usual destroyers who wanted to take over the city. I knew lots of those affected Yorubas including my own Chemistry teacher and friend, Mr Ojebisi 😭 (may his gentle soul rest in the bosom of our Lord Jesus). He alongside his brother were murdered in cold blood in their house in Rikkos, an adjoining area close to the more Yoruba known territory of Nasarawa. These areas saw the biggest Yoruba casualty ever recorded in Jos and probably the whole northern Nigeria. Some Igbos also lost their lives in this area and other areas around it. The Igbo dominated areas were very well fortified and impregnable which was why the casualty figure was low in this particular year. The earlier crisis of 2001 and 2002 had more Igbo casualty than Yoruba because the whole areas were heavily mixed with all ethnic groups and Yorubas were mostly spared at that time. A good number of Igbos fled from the less defended areas to areas far from vulnerability while the Yorubas remained probably thinking because they had a big population in these specific areas and maybe weren't the 'target'. Unfortunately, the killers seeking for blood and territorial expansion turned on them suddenly. In case you don't know, even some Yoruba muslims were among those killed in these areas. Generally, Yoruba muslims in Jos are not fanatical and so, were considered opportunistic by the fanatical islamists. They refer to the Yoruba muslims as 'tubaban rana' which transliterates to 'conversion of daylight' and loosely translates to a hypocritical convert. If you doubt this statement, ask any Yoruba muslim living in Jos or the north what that statement means. As you can see, I'm writing what I witnessed myself and areas I've lived and walked for years. Yorubas today have fled Nasarawa and went further NE of Nasarawa towards Bauchi ring road, Tina Junction and Eto baba including Furaka with other ethnic groups. None of those areas is considered dominated by them anymore. Yorubas in Jos are mostly artisans and tradesman, taxi drivers and a little into business. This is why rarely you see them dominate area business or trading in the city. This is why I can say for certain that the Yoruba population in Jos is far below that of Igbos. As for PH, no matter the Yoruba population there, it is still small compared to that of Igbos from the nearby SE. The same can be said in all the other SS cities and towns. Therefore, my argument is valid. Don't downplay the Igbo population because those who have visited and lived in Igboland don't do so. |
The usual haters of the Easterners won't utter a word in this thread that shows the killings happening against their own people. My prayers have remained the same. Whatever evil they wish against my people, may it return to them and theirs in hundred fold. |
lawani:Ok let's do a simple maths. Tell me what areas in Jos are dominated by Yorubas and I'll tell you two for each one you mention. Like I said before, the trade/profession dominance of a people can be used to gauge the population of a people. Tell me what trade or profession Yorubas dominate in Jos and Kaduna city. Listen, I don't argue what I'm not certain about. If you know the population of Igbos in Jos, you won't even drag with me. As for PH, can you tell me what the probable Yoruba population is over there? Do the same for Benin City, Warri, Asaba, Calabar and Yenagoa maybe. You'll agree with me and the Igbo/Yoruba population of those cities differ greatly in favour of the Igbos. Reality is different from your assumptions if your mind isn't clouded by sentiments. There's a reason why the West(especially Lagos and northern Nigeria witness a huge traffic loss during Christmas and New Year in the late 90s and early 2000s when Nigeria was still peaceful. Let me give you another thing Yorubas don't pit into consideration when discussing Igbo population especially when they compare cities and towns in Igboland versus those in Yorubaland. Most Yoruba cities and towns have been formed for long which is why Yorubas were classified as the most urbanized people by Europeans who studied the various tribes in Nigeria. This means that those early Yoruba towns had more population are were bigger than the few Igbo towns of those days which mostly became 'towns' because the Europeans chose those them for some level of convenience as against their neighbours. These Yoruba towns continued to expand till date with the surrounding communities not being of much significance unlike in Igboland where most of the neighbouring towns were as equally populated at the time Europeans saw them but preferred the other to them. This means that the population density in Igboland far exceeded what was found anywhere in Nigeria and the entire Africa at the time except only Cairo, Egypt. Take for instance Anambra and Imo states. When you travel through them, you'll be surprised at the density you see. When you mention Onitsha as a city, most times, it's only the traditional Onitsha town that is spoken about but when you consider the entire towns today that surround and are directly connected to Onitsha but not known like Obosi, Atani, Nkwelle Ezunaka, Nkpor, Ogidi and Umuoji, the entire population is massive hitting likely 3 million. Then you talk about Nnewi which wasn't known before but today has become a force to be reckoned with because of commerce and the link up of other Nnewi South towns like Ukpor, Osumenyi, Nnobi, Awka Etiti, Oba, Ojoto, Igbo-Ukwu, Adazi Nnukwu, Agulu, Aguluzigbo, Ekwulobia and numerous other neighbouring towns. The population of these areas is also very massive and is at least 2.5million. Awka, the capital and surrounding towns plus the rest of the communities scattered around around both far SE and North East of the state can account for about 2,5million people. This places Anambra state to around 8million people. You can check Google map for the level of urbanized clusters in the state for yourself. So, when you hear about only Onitsha, Awka and Nnewi, they are just a fraction of what Urban area is around them. All these three areas are Metropolitan in nature with huge population when counted as a Metropolis. Onitsha as a metropolis is made up of Onitsha North lga, Onitsha South lga, Idemili North lga, Oyi lga, parts of Ogbaru lga, and parts of Dunukofia lga. Nnewi as a metropolis is made up of Nnewi North lga, Nnewi South lga, Idemili South lga, Anaocha lga, Ekwusigo lga and parts of Aguata lga. Awka as a metropolis is made up Awka North, Awka South, parts of Dunukofia lga and parts of Njikoka lga. This is why Anambra has a huge population. Check Google earth map of Anambra for yourself. |
lawani:At least, you confirmed that they're solely of Igbo(Nri) stock. Having a caste system isn't necessarily an Nri something. While it surely is an Igbo thing, it isn't certainly an Nri thing. Just want to clarify this. As for the Igala language creeping into their community, it isn't strange since they've been carved into the same district for over a 100years but no one can say they're bilingual as a community. However, saying they're under Idah is being preposterous. Is just like saying other Yoruba communities in Kwara state are under Ilorin. We all know it isn't so. For the fact that they were just independent villages hundreds of years ago who was sought Idah's protection from their attackers doesn't mean they perpetually will live under Idah. Idah is today powerless and without any power to protect them therefore whatever Idah was to them before doesn't hold anymore. They remain Ndigbo by ethnic group and under the state that can protect them. As for their Eke market, it can never die due to how the Igbo culture is built. It may be have less activity due to government negligence and abandonment eg bad roads and lack of amenities which deters external buyers from easily accessing their communities to buy from them but it will always remain. |
lawani:If you want to have a more accurate comparison of both Igbo and Yoruba SETTLER population in the northern states, do secondary school student counting. The reason for a lower Igbo population in Northern universities is because of some factors mainly due to the underrating of those universities, lower interests in tertiary education by Igbo parents residing there and/or preference to send their children to the East for socio-cultural reason. 'Yours truly' and the entire siblings went to the East for universities for the last reason. Most of the Igbo students from my secondary school both those before and after my set went to the East for university and tertiary education while our Yoruba colleagues schooled in Northern universities. I can speak more confidently for Jos, Plateau and Kaduna states very well. There are more Igbos than Yorubas over there very well. You can ask any Yoruba resident in both states for confirmation. Igbos prefer SS universities than northern universities and you know very well that Yoruba population in the SS cities and universities are very small. Let me give you another good way of being able rate the population of a specific set of people in any town or city. Check if they dominate any settlement and type of trade or profession. If so, how many of such settlements and how large? For the trades, how important and big are such trades in socioeconomic chain of the town or city? Now tell me; what trades and how big are they that Yorubas dominate in the Northern states apart from Kogi and Niger states where they're indigenes? As you can see, I'm more pragmatic using easily accessible markers to show my points. |
lawani:Nobody closes a traditional market because of traffic. Say something else. Avrugo is just one out of many such Igbo communities in Kogi state. |
lawani:Going by your comment, you'll like to have us believe that there are more Yorubas in the SE than there are Igbos in the 17 northern states plus Abuja. This is what living in denial can cause because it makes you incoherent. Again, we all know that the population of Igbos in Lagos alone is more than 3 million. The population of Igbos in the SS both indigenous and settlers is more than 8 million. The population of Igbos in the 17 northern states plus Abuja is a least 5 million. That should give you an idea of what we are talking about. Can you breakdown by states where your 1 million Yorubas are found in the SE? |
franchasng:No, they weren't carved into the North Central by the military. It was the under Frederick Lugard that the border between the East and North was changed and many Igbo communities in Kogi and Benue were shifted up North. Before that time, Idah and Oturkpo downwards were all in the Eastern region. I'll post the image of change in borderline that reflected it. Notice how the line on the Eastern side dropped further south. That was when the boundary was adjust and all those Igbo communities in Kogi and Benue were pushed into the north.
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lawani:How small do you think they are? Let's focus first on Benue state... how many communities do you think we're talking about there? |
lawani:I guess we should agree with your mouth and opinion more than that of others (non-partisan experts who studied Nigeria in details and reported what they saw. Again, I noticed you do mix up present day SW with the Yoruba population on the one hand and the SE population with the Igbo population. In today's Nigeria, the SE has witnessed a sizable emigration while the SW has witnessed huge immigration due to the Lagos factor. Therefore, SE population isn't a near measure of Igbo population just like the SW population isn't a near measure of Yoruba population. Therefore, I can confidently say that while Igbos can claim more than 93% of the SE population, Yorubas can't claim more than 83% of the SW population. Apart from the SW states plus Kogi, Kwara and maybe Niger states, Igbos have more population in the rest than Yorubas. The Igbo presence still shows everywhere more than that of the Yorubas to buttress my claims. I know how hurt you guys are to this reality which is why you guys always through the common cliche 'attachee' or land grabbers. You so wish what we say about our people being in 13 states isn't true but it is. You have to swallow the truth the way it is for your own sanity. |
[right][/right] lawani:Can you quote or show just one pre-independent document that stated Yorubas have more population than Igbos? I'll provide you with two that states otherwise. |
shortgun:Sarcasm at its finest. You won't see Igbo haters on this thread. The haters will still continue to say only the 5 SE states has indigenous Igbos. This tells you they're following an agenda while denying the obvious. |
Kobojunkie:If a wife to be so detests her would be husband's sister such that his intervention can't change it, it is best they don't marry. Whatever happened which we don't know, I agree with the man's decision to cancel the wedding. The woman should have been bold enough to cancel it if he insists his sister be one of her bridesmaid. Maybe this perspective will make the situation clear to you. All men know their family members especially those they can die for and those they won't go all the way for. If he thinks the woman's refusal of his sister is worth canceling the wedding, it definitely is worth it. A good marriage is a union of two families. Wedding is just the event. If a wife to be can't accommodate her sister in law this early in a such a trivial issue, it shows she don't love his family. The cancelation is in order. |
God bless MNK God bless IPOB God bless Biafra. God bless all lovers of freedom. |
loffyloffy:Can you stop shifting ground and stick to a solid argument? You're the one rambling here. You came to compare Oyo state to a whole region and when you were trashed, you returned to IGR. If I may ask, are you still comparing the IGR of Oyo to the SE or to the individual states of the region? I guess you've learnt what perspective to follow in your argument. IGR is very easy to increase if your GDP is high but not vice versa. This means those SE states with high GDP are covered to survive on their own to your disappointment. Now talking about size, why aren't the smaller SW states showing any serious development due to their size just as you point to SE states? Your problem remains tribalism. |
UnknownQueen:Wow.. is this all you can say? Is preaching a bad thing? Did he attack anyone? Was he armed? Was it stated he was detained and he made any form of resistance? What exactly was his crime? Going by your comment, your likes would have condenmed John The Baptist who went to deliver a message to King Herod and ended up being put in jail. Shame on you. You even accused him of having an ulterior motive. This means you've justified the beating and killing of the young man. This is why you said nothing to those who killed him. Shame on you once again. May the soul of the young man rest in the bosom of the Lord. Thank God it doesn't all end here. |
blackgold2018:What you see isn't what I see. Evidence is being kept for posterity sake. |
Just here to gather information. Let it be known that Yorubas have invaded Rivers state, fixed the people they bought into power and are forcing the indigenes to wear their attires. These here are some of the evidence. We shall revisit it some day. |
manck:Can you provide the population of Ogbomosho, Oyo and Saki plus Owerri's population so we can decide for ourselves? |
Ttalk:We never saw you guys as enemies but as competitors. We thought there would be a bit of fairness from you guys but it hasn't been so. The recent treatment we've seen from Tinubu and his ronu gangs have shown that the physical clashes we never had will eventually and sadly start occurring. It is the reality many of Igbos have to face today. On the political arena, Igbos have been president, vice president and senate president before any Yoruba tasted those positions, so I wonder what you're talking about. However, if the post Biafran war politics is what you're talking about, you should know that it is itself just a phase. As you can see, we've bounced back economically and punching really strong which is why the rivers of bitterness is flowing out from the soul of your ronu people. That won't stop our acceleration. Yes, you guys are slowing us down but can't stop us. We on the other hand aren't stopping or wanting to stop you guys in anyway. However, since you've started clawing at us, we will have to claw back to balance the treatment. |
esnbrutality:They have a sinister agenda against the SE which we must fight back at all cost. Biafra will be the icing that will expose them more but until then, we must match them fire for fire. Leave nothing unattended. This is the information age which we should utilize to undo all the evils they've propagated against us. You'll note that it was a human being who brought the bill that wanted to make the Sultan and Ooni as permanent chairmen of traditional leaders in Nigeria. There's a serious agenda on board. |
Christistruth00:Show proof. The SE is about 30,255Sq.km whereas Oyo state is 28,454sq.km. Why do you guys love to lie like this? If you must do your bigoted comparison, at least try to present facts not lies. |
loffyloffy:It still doesn't sound condescending to you making such a baseless comparison? If you can't compare the population of the SE with Oyo state, what makes you think you can compare the structures. Infrastructures and wealth of the people of both areas? That's madness. Ok, let's do the comparison. 1. What's the population of Oyo and what's the population of the SE as at 2025? Oyo is less than 1/3rd the population of the SE. 2. What number of houses do we have in Oyo and the SE? 3. What's the GDP of Oyo compared to the SE? Imo state alone is twice that of Oyo. Anambra's own is still significantly above that of Oyo. 4. What are the number of educational institutions and academic performance of Oyo compared to the SE? As you can see, there's no single basis for such comparison beyond stupidity. Next time, you can compare state to state or region by region. That way, it looks more matured. |
manck:Name the other towns in Oyo state apart from Ibadan that is larger than Owerri. |
manck:Can you produce the population of both states for comparison? |

