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agaugust: NAF ? ATR-42 ? Beechcraft 350ER ? Your wife will soon run away from you...you have brain Ebola

Surface search is not ground search. You have 350Is not 350ERs

agaugust: NAIJA...

Light transport aircraft not recon.

agaugust: SIGNIT is NOT same as ISTAR.

Your fvcking SAAF Oryx helicpoter has no ground search radar.

Stop mixing EW with ISTAR.

South Africa is 166 years behind Nigeria in ISTAR capability.

Now go jump on jump on your wife in bed if you have nothing else to do
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And non of your aircraft have ground search radar either

agaugust: 40 ordered and staring to arrive this month, plus the current 80, NAF has 120 helicopters bought or paid for.

SAAF is stuck with 70 current and zero ordered, so we almost double your helicopter strength.

See how things this forum changed from page 1 to 1,065....no condition is permanent
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You don't have 80 though.

SAAF has no pressing needs for helcopters. We have enough for the number of men in the army you don't.

agaugust: If you knew that, why do you post Nigerian police shooting rifles by mistake at sea as a big deal when nobody was injured?

You see how foolish an adult you are?

Did I make it a big deal? I only posted it because it was funny has hell. It all so highlighted the fact that your security forces have poor comuncastion with each other. That was the thing I got out of it.

agaugust: Please find another topic, jet fighters are not ISTAR platforms, many F-7 jets do reconnaissance too. Mumu.

"F-7BG 16 was delivered to Bangladesh in 2006 including with 4 two-seater FT-7BG. The capability to carry reconnaissance pods and operate the equipment inside the pods from the cockpit of earlier F-7MB is retained. Reported to use Grifo MG radar."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chengdu_J-7

Your Gripen jet is NOT an ISTAR aircraft.

Anserw the qustion. Swedish gripens had one rle during the nato bombing of libya. What was it.

agaugust: Reason why pirates operate there...pirates go where ships are...retaaard.

" Six million tonnes of oil are transported around South Africa’s western coastline, which makes this a prime target for pirates’ (Sisulu 2011). It is clear therefore, that South Africa is growing as an anti-piracy actor having defined maritime piracy as a security threat to the region in recognition of a need to protect its self-interests in time of changing circumstances by stopping the spread of piracy before it become a serious problem in South African waters."

http://www.e-ir.info/2012/11/06/anti-piracy-actors-south-africa/

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That is the routs civlian ships use to travel the world, it then marks the dangers. Note no pirats are marked in south africa. There are no pirats down here. Pirats from the east coast do not sail to the west and vic versa.

agaugust: Relevant for ever, shows you have a retaared navy .

The USN sailed a sub in to a mountain, the french sailed a sub(on surface) in a SA sub(on serves) accednt was french fault and the SA DC teams perdomed there drills better than the french. We had only just got the subs, USN beached a mine hunter on some reefs, extra extra. Every country as the odd accdeint.

agaugust: Dude, Sweden does not depend on Gripen jets for ISTAR, they have Saab 340 called S 100B aircraft for that...

"In July 2006, Saab was awarded a contract to upgrade two of the Swedish Air Force's S 100B aircraft for surveillance missions and for deployment in multi-national operations. The upgraded Saab 340 AEW-300 aircraft, are planned to enter service by 2009."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_340_AEW%26C

Also, Sweden has Gulfstream G-IV SP aircraft for SIGNIT.

Your South African air force must be 66 years behind the world for you to be calling Gripen jet fighter your fvcking ISTAR aircraft.

British air force did not list Eurofighter Typhoon swing-role jet fighter with powerful radar and special functions including Search Modes - Ground Map, High Resolution Map, Ground Moving Target Identification and Sea Surface Search and Track While Scan capabilities, as their real reconnaissance or ISTAR aircraft despite the fact that Typhoon can do better recce than your tiny toy Gripens.

See what sensible countries call ISTAR aircraft..... http://www.raf.mod.uk/equipment/istarandcistar.cfm

South African air force is 166 years behind Nigeria, you have zero ISTAR aircraft and zero ELINT aircraft.

SANDF-SAAF is an over-rated over-bloated balloon, when I pin you with needle now, you go burst

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During the nato bombing of libya what where seedish gripens doing?

agaugust: Beegeagle is a very credible source, European media consult him, Nigerian navy consults him for partnership.

Beegeagle is the one who named Nigeria's new stealth warship NNS Centenary, that is powerful recognition
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Show me a source of him consulting any body. He is one mane that gives his opion and will not suffer any repercustions for giveing false infomastion

agaugust: That was Nigerian police, not military....and nobody died in the shooting error.

Well, South Africa's 'experienced blue water navy' d.estroyed their own Frigate during sea training and sank it to sea bottom, k.illing many naval men...


"On 18 February 1982, while under the command of Captain de Lange, the President Kruger sank 78 nautical miles (144 km) south west of Cape Point after colliding with SAS Tafelberg in the early hours of the morning. The ship was involved in an anti-submarine exercise with another frigate, the President Pretorius that involved intricate manoeuvres around the Tafelberg. The bows of the Tafelberg impacted on the SAS President Kruger on her port side at the senior ratings’ mess, resulting in the loss of sixteen lives. A Westland Wasp helicopter, operated by 22 Squadron SAAF from the other frigate, rescued crew members from the water. "

http://scenicsouth.co.za/2012/01/sinking-of-sas-president-kruger-30th-anniversary-commemoration/



Bwahahahahahahahahahahah Pay Back time !!!!

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My mother was a baby back then. Hardly relvant now is it.

agaugust:

World Piracy map shows that pirates from Indian Ocean operate through South Africa and pass through your home front in Cape Town waters undetected by your sleeping navy


https://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/magazine/09/sailing_piracy_threat/img/sailing_piracy_threat_786map.gif


South African navy busy making hollywood photographs while Pirates from India escape through Cape Town

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That is routs civlian ships use for trade not pirats you moraan.

agaugust: Part of the reason why you did not win the war. Your jets were reconnaissance failures.

Anyway, SAAF did very very few air recce because your pilots were afraid of Cuban MiG-23 when your Mirages were fully armed for combat not to talk of when they are equipped for recce....and your other jets would not venture to any place where Cuban MiG jets will eat them for dinner.

All top notch airforces have highspeed reccon aircraft


We still flew countless flights. Yes The cubans had better aircraft but SAAF air to air losses where not high.

agaugust: Gripen is a jet fighter. Dakotas include ordinary transports and the MPA has no radar. Cessna includes ordinary transports and their EW has no radar. Super Lynx are ocean ship carried helicopters and won't save your army on land. Your drones have no radar and cannot work like aeroplane. Frigates and Submarines are useless to your army unless your soldiers are imprisoned inside harbor dry dock. Satellite is a luxury South Africa does not have.

You got bucket loads of poooh poooh coming out of your b.ottom...not surveillance

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So it can carry 2 different types of recon pods and when carrying 3 drop tanks, plus a pod it can act as a recon aircraft.
Dakotas do have great EW gear
and EW can be used to locate targets
nothing is stopping a lynx from supporting the army
And your MPAs radar (all 2) are useless on land since they where built for naval operations and not ground search
proven wrong, I posted the source long ago how SA had satellite imagery access for recon over CAR.

NAF as 2 ATR42 that are MPAs that is there entire air recon. Your other aircraft are transport aircraft with no recon fucstions.

agaugust: DefenceWeb is a blog, try prove me wrong with definition of a blog from dictionary.

There are many websites that are actually blogs but don't call themselves by that name.

Beegeagle is a more reliable blog than DefenceWeb, NOBODY can post comment on Beegeagle without special access pass from the owner Mister Beegeagle himself, he questions you one on one and screens you to know your ability to comment on military matters.

ANYBODY including patients in psychiatric hospitals can post comments on DefenceWeb without being screened.

It took me 2 months screening to be allowed on Beegeagles blog, I have posted on DefenceWeb blog without the owner asking who I am.

Beegeagle is the most intelligent and knowledge exhibiting military blog in Africa.

DefenceWeb is the usual South African copy and paste epidemic worse than Ebola.
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you posted a committed to a article on defence web, not a article. Please go and try and post a article on defence web.

agaugust: That was a police error and NOT military error.

Something 100 times worse happened in South African navy, a world class error. I will post that with nice photos at 7 AM tomorrow morning....payback time !
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what, talfilberg sinking the kruger. Happened long time ago. Hardly a issue and hardly payback.

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=35903:is-ghana-becoming-a-piracy-hot-spot&catid=108:maritime-security&Itemid=233


In Nigeria, for instance, the navy and the maritime police need to coordinate their activities and increase collaboration – as demonstrated by the incident of the Histria Coral.

On 23 October 2013, a Nigerian maritime police unit mistook a small boat transporting Nigerian navy personnel for a pirate boat and opened fire on the vessel. Fearing the anger of the navy, the policemen locked themselves into the Histria Coral’s citadel (a safe room designed for crew members to seek protection in the event of an attack) for days before they were arrested.



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

agaugust: [size=14pt]

South Africa : Sea Pirates Origin and Head Quarters

http://allafrica.com/stories/201202171191.html?mstac=0

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South Africa will host 32 member states of the Indian Ocean Naval Symposium (IONS) and various international parties with interests in these waters when the third such event takes place in Cape Town in April 2012.

The South African Navy and navy representatives from [b]other Indian Ocean countries [/b]will focus on piracy at this year's symposium. (Image: South African Navy)

agaugust: [size=14pt]South Africa now looks up to Nigerian navy for help with SADC ocean security where SANDF navy has failed woefully

Who has the strongest military in Africa?

Nigeria !

This ends the argument from page one of this thread.

What a sweet end indeed.

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I don't think we ever asked you to help, this is more like angola say "hey Nigeria get your pirates off my back yard"

agaugust: Now you have asked for trouble again, I am going to h.umiliate South African air force with photos and web links tomorrow morning, not today.

Your stupiidity has made you place fresh orders for insults to be heaped on South Africa's head, delivery time is 7am tomorrow.

We will know who is flying only civilian Beechraft versions

SAAF is 166 years behind NAF
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http://www.african-defense.com/?p=6682

In line with the transformation agenda of the Commander-in-Chief (C-in-C) of the Armed Forces Federal Republic of Nigeria, Dr Goodluck Ebele Jonathan, the Nigerian Air Force (NAF) received three turbo-engine (KingsAir 350i) Beechcraft light transport aircraft. The handing over of the aircraft to the Chief of Air Staff, Air Marshal Adesola Amosu was done by Mr Scott Plumb, the Vice President Sales, Middle East, Textron Aviation Austria the vendors of the aircraft at the 209 Executive Airlift Group’s Hangar, Nnamdi Azikwe International Airport, Abuja.

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=35787

The Nigerian Air Force has taken delivery of three King Air [b]light transport aircraft [/b]and has reportedly ordered 40 new helicopters as it continues its expansion.

The three King Air 350is were seen transiting the Canary Islands during their delivery flight on July 30. The aircraft were acquired “in line with the transformation agenda of the Commander-in-Chief (C-in-C) of the Armed Forces [of the] Federal Republic of Nigeria, Dr Goodluck Ebele Jonathan,” the Nigerian Air Force (NAF) said in a statement.

The aircraft were handed over to the Chief of Air Staff, Air Marshal Adesola Amosu, by Scott Plumb, the Vice President Sales, Middle East, Textron Aviation Austria, at the 209 Executive Airlift Group’s Hangar at Nnamdi Azikwe International Airport in Abuja.

Amosu stated that the acquisition of the King Airs will go a long way in boosting the [b]airlift capacity [/b]of the NAF

agaugust: Now you have asked for trouble again, I am going to h.umiliate South African air force with photos and web links tomorrow morning, not today.

Your stupiidity has made you place fresh orders for insults to be heaped on South Africa's head, delivery time is 7am tomorrow.

We will know who is flying only civilian Beechraft versions

SAAF is 166 years behind NAF
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seen your photo and read your beagel blog. That thing under it you though was for EW gear and what not is for baggage.

agaugust: Nope ! Liar !

The southern Angola sea is much closer to South African territorial waters than Nigeria.

You failed geography in school, how did you enter soweto navy ?

Your navy has no single long endurance OPVs that are always at sea well positioned for emergency action.

Fools buy 7 frigates/submarine and zero OPV in peace time when crime is rising all over the worlds oceans.

The Angolan incident just showed SANDF has a useless peace time navy.

Over-rated sea force, Crap
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northern Angola is closer to Nigeria than SA

Our frigates have long rang and we have strike craft in Durban. There is nothing along our west coast of note. Angola is not SA and is not our concern to chase your pirates there.

agaugust: Oh my God !!!!

Here is South African navy's senior potato frying cook-chef in kitchen brain display !!!!

Beechcraft aircraft has both civilan utility and transport versions and separate military surveillance versions called Beechcraft King Air 350ER special missions version.

South African air force is fvcking around with some fvcking transport versions Beechcrafts.

Nigeria is ruling Africa with military versions Beechcraft 350ER special missions dedictad ISTAR version purpose build ISTAR.

Go educate your onion frying brain on page 988 where I posted it in July when you were too busy cooking for your navy sailors

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and the version you have is civilian. there is zero indecision they any thing but transport only. Your beagal blog agrees

agaugust: We received new powerful AW101s 2 units and Hind E night fighter helos 6 units I did not even count...we got extra 8.
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A transport chopper that will be used for VIP flights vs a attack chopper. They at different levels.

And I mean your hinds are gone. Any case we unsure if the hinds you talking about are part of the 40.

agaugust: Bwahahaha !!!

International security operations are not carried out by kilometer distance, they are governed by regional security arrangements. Nigeria is responsible for security in ECOWAS, while South Africa is responsible for security in SADC that covers Angola.

You guys posted comments boasting here last year that all SADC region countries have signed a security deal and that Nigeria cannot do anything in your region of influence.

Now pirates trouble came and South Africa's Frigate and Submarine photography navy is caught p.a.n.t.s down unable to respond to ordinary pirates invasion of her SADC region, they now say Nigeria is responsible for security in both ECOWAS and SADC, reason why they could not help Angola in distress and Nigerian navy saved Angola as Super Naija the giant of Africa.

Okay, we accept the new responsibility you Southies have put on your Nigerian master's shoulders. The Federal Republic of Nigeria is now responsible for the safety and security of all Africa from Cape Town to Cairo.

Valuor Frigates + Type 209 Submarines + Dakota aircraft + Gripen Jet + Caravan EW aircraft + Lynx ASW helicopters = ZERO Force Projection Beyond Simmons Town



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and the pirates came from your water and you where closer.

You sorted out your mess, what did you influence

If a frigat left from Simmons town it would take a few days to reach northern Angola. you guys where closer. So far we only patrolling for east coat pirats in any case. a known issue.

agaugust: NAF has 120 helicopters, 80 now plus 40 ordered.

SAAF is an over-rated dwarf standing tall by wearing high heeled shoes to pose for photographs

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you send a bunch of hind to new Zealand

agaugust: MiG 29, Su-27, F-16, Tornado, Mirage, JF-17, all are built capable of reconnaissance missions, so they become ISTAR special mission aircraft?

With supersonic jet speed and loud engine noise, short range, need of special runway, inability to loiter without detection, etc.

You don't know what a dedicated ISTAR aircraft is. I take it that you are a regular failure in military academy exams, but South Africa will keep promoting you according to national retaardendo policy.

Nation of Retaards
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If given the needed tech and systems yes

And they can fly well above any possible threats and use powerful Intel gathering systems. They all so do not need escorts

agaugust: [size=14pt]

Your source's revenue figures for Nigeria are VERY wrong, looks like an illiterate's mathematics.

Anyway, South Africans always fail Mathematics.

Oil & gas sales alone at 4 million barrels per day consolidated for crude oil barrels and converted cubic feet of natural gas, plus uncontrolled OSO Condensates that OPEC does not control with production quotas...

4 million barrels per day x $100 barrels per barrel x 365 days per year = $ 150 Billion approximately.

Nigeria revenue from oil and gas alone is about $ 150 Billion per year without counting Solid Minerals, Tax, etc.

You and your source must be living in the stone age when calculation was done by arranging small stones in a line and adding them up on the ground

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how is it wrong, we all know you country makes very little money and is rather poor.

http://beegeagle./2014/08/07/nigerian-air-force-beechcraft-super-king-air-350-planes-spotted-in-canary-islands-spain-enroute-nigeria/

intelligent Nigerians doubt it is a recon aircraft. Most know they just more transport stuff

agaugust: [size=14pt]

I hate repeating posts especially when they are long.

I posted Nigerian Beechcraft ISTAR aircraft with photos and manufacturer technical data repeatedly in July, I think I have posted enough on that.

It has 80km ground search radar range and aircraft has travel mission 4,000km range.

Go back and chew it on page 988, Retaard of Gauteng province ;P ;P


https://www.nairaland.com/415620/strongest-military-africa/988

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you mean that cargo pod undneath it for cargo

Thiza: THE NEW R-5 TO ENTER SERVICE....DESIGNED AND PRODUCE IN SOUTH AFRICA

actually that is a AR15, the version is called R4 hence google image gets confused.