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PoliticsRe: Do You Greet Nigerian Policemen On Or Off Duty When You See Them? by zaandrew: 3:44pm On Nov 08, 2013
Beaf!:
I mean when you walk pass them not driving in a car. BTW are police supposed to ask you for driver's license?
Since it is ileagal to drive with out one yes they can.
Foreign AffairsRe: Gay Africans Are Entitled To Asylum In The EU by zaandrew: 3:40pm On Nov 08, 2013
The response of people on this forum is all I need to understand that nigeria will never progres.

A nastion is judged how it treats it worst off.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by zaandrew: 2:24pm On Nov 08, 2013
agaugust: .

[size=16pt]nigerian army's makossa dancing deadly Bofors F-77 B0 L52 artillery 60km range[/size]


source proof, technical details, and a video of same type with indian army.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaK1jFg8JBE


"The FH 77B05 L52 is a further development of the successful FH 77B02 L39 howitzer system.

The system meets or supersedes all requirements for a modern, towed artillery system, which is made possible through a number of improvements.

Most of the procedures to control the FH77 B05 are automatic, like indirect laying, execution of MRSI firings etc. The automation will improve speed, accuracy and safety when firing. The operator also will have access to manuals stored in the computer. The new gun computer has a man-machine inter-face similar with the standard commercial PCs, which facilitates the training and operation of the computer.

The new upgraded howitzer, FH77 B05, has all round greater performance including increased range over the 39cal FH77 B02. It is intended that Defence Land Systems India would have a significant and increasing role in the production of FH77 B05, toward the intended goal of Defence Land Systems India becoming an artillery centre of excellence in India. The FH77 B05 meets and exceeds specifications in the Indian environment (winter and summer) and has already been proven in earlier trials in India. The FH77 B05 will be manufactured and marketed in India by Defense Land Systems India, BAE's joint venture with Mahindra & Mahindra Ltd.

One of the most important attributes of the Field Howitzer 77B05 is the high rate of fire, i.e. its ability to fire a great number of rounds in a specified time, and MRSI (Multiple Round Simultaneous Impact). The FH77 B05 has been optimized and tested to be used in extreme weather conditions, including the desert and higher altitudes. "


Description

The FH 77B05 L52 is a further development of the successful FH 77B02 L39 howitzer system. The system meets or supersedes all requirements for a modern, towed artillery system, which is made possible through a number of improvements.

The new upgraded howitzer, FH77 B05, has all round greater performance including increased range over the 39cal FH77 B02. It is intended that Defence Land Systems India would have a significant and increasing role in the production of FH77 B05, toward the intended goal of Defence Land Systems India becoming an artillery centre of excellence in India.

The FH77 B05 meets and exceeds specifications in the Indian environment (winter and summer) and has already been proven in earlier trials in India.

The FH77 B05 will be manufactured and marketed in India by Defense Land Systems India, BAE's joint venture with Mahindra & Mahindra Ltd. One of the most important attributes of the Field Howitzer 77B05 is the high rate of fire, i.e. its ability to fire a great number of rounds in a specified time, and MRSI (Multiple Round Simultaneous Impact). The FH77 B05 has been optimized and tested to be used in extreme weather conditions, including the desert and higher altitudes.

Gun

The FH77 B05 towed howitzer is equipped with a 155 mm L/52 barrel. The longer barrel and larger chamber volume result in extended firing range of more than 40 km and enable firing of the next generation smart ammunition.

Mobility

For long distance, a cross country truck tows the FH77B05. The towing truck and gun can travel at the speed of 80 km/h. For short periods of time and when road conditions allow, the speed can increase. For cross-country driving, the gun can be tandem-driven from the towing truck. The FH77 B05 has a high powered engine which has been turbo charged for high altitude requirements and is capable of aiming direct fire at moving targets as well. Maximum speed is about 8 km/h and cross-country mobility is excellent. Over short distances, the gun can be driven independently at speeds of up to 8 km/h. For deploy/redeployment the gun uses its own power unit. Gun in/out of action time (trained crew) is less than 90 seconds.

Accessories

The FH77 B05 is provided with its own navigation, positioning, and aligning system to achieve optimized accuracy performing multi-round simultaneous impact. The new gun computer has a man-machine inter-face similar with the standard commercial PCs, which facilitates the training and operation of the computer.

Combat use

Most of the procedures to control the FH77 B05 are automatic, like indirect laying, execution of MRSI firings etc. The automation will improve speed, accuracy and safety when firing. The operator also will have access to manuals stored in the computer. The new gun computer has a man-machine inter-face similar with the standard commercial PCs, which facilitates the training and operation of the computer.

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Specifications

Type
Towed howitzer

Crew
5 to 8 soldiers

Accessories
Integrated navigation, positioning and aligning system and onboard ballistic calculation

Gun
155 mm L/52

Rate of fire
5 rounds/minute

Firing Range
60 km maximum
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http://www.armyrecognition.com/united_kingdom_british_light_heavy_weapons_army_uk/fh77_b05_l52_towed_howitzer_bae_systems_data_sheet_description_information_intelligence_pictures_uk.html


The FH 77B05 L52 is a further development of the successful FH 77B02 L39 howitzer system. The system meets or supersedes all requirements for a modern, towed artillery system, which is made possible through a number of improvements.

The longer barrel and larger chamber volume result in extended firing range of more than 40 km and enable firing of the next generation smart ammunition to a 60km range.

Onboard ballistic computer enabling calculating firing data, automatic laying and firing control, automatic input of ammunition data and meteorological data.

The FH 77B05 L52 has its own land navigation system, eliminating the need for surveying and alignment giving the complete system a very low LCC.

BENEFITS

Integrated navigation, positioning and aligning system and onboard ballistic calculation
Automatic servo controlled laying
Intra-howitzer radio communication
Intra-battery communication > 5 km
Handles modular charges and bag charges
Spares and logistics similar to FH77B
Direct firing capability out to 2 km
MRSI capability, up to 5 hits in a target momentarily

MOBILITY

Over long distances, a cross country truck tows the gun.

The towing truck and gun can travel at the speed of 80 km/h. For short periods of time and when road conditions allow, the speed can increase.

For cross-country driving, the gun can be tandem-driven from the towing truck. Maximum speed is about 8 km/h and cross-country mobility is excellent.

Over short distances, the gun can be driven independently at speeds of up to 8 km/h.

For deploy/redeployment the gun uses its own power unit.

Gun in/out of action time (trained crew) is less than 90 seconds.

FIRING

One of the most important attributes of the Field Howitzer 77B05 is the high rate of fire, i.e. its ability to fire a great number of rounds in a specified time, and MRSI (Multiple Round Simultaneous Impact).

The gun has an automatic laying system with on-board ballistic calculation.

Howitzer Computer Unit (HCU)
The HCU contains the GUI (Gun Users Interface) software and the software for ballistic calculations. It also handles communication with:

CCM (Control Computer Module) controlling the system for loading, laying and firing, and also receives data from the INS
Laser Range Finder
Muzzle Velocity System
Barrel Temperature Sensor
MRR for sending and receiving data messages
HCU
Processor Intel Pentium III 500 MHz

Ram 256 MB SDRAM
HDD 10 GB removable
Power specification 10 - 30 VDC with 5 min UPS
CCM

Power card Convert 24 V to 5 V
CPU card
CPU TMS320C32, 50 MHz, 512 kB EEPROM
Logic card Signals IN/OUT
Gun laying is carried out hydraulically using variable servo valves. Laying can be carried out using the following modes:

Normal:
Automatic laying by the HCU. The HCU calculates obtained firing data, prevents laying outside the gun’s laying and firing limitations and automatically lays onto target.

Direct Fire:
When laying using the joystick, the HCU calculates the ?ring data automatically and aiming takes place with no further action. The HCU prevents laying outside the gun’s laying and ?ring limitations.

Technician’s mode:
Manual laying using the joystick - will override laying and firing limitations.

SPECIFICATIONS

Barrel length (calibres) 52

Main weapon caliber (mm) 155

Rate of fire (rds/min) 3

Elevation (degree) 70

Depression (degree) -3

Traverse arc (degree) 50

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FH-77 B05 L52 Quantities:

Country Quantity

INDIA 410
NIGERIA 48
SWEDEN 51

Total: 509

SOURCE : http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product2820.html

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haaaa, fire for fire, nigerian Bofors you too super
nelson mandela wan expire
jacob zuma go retire
them see Bofors firepower
soweto is now on fire !!!

boom !! boom boom !! kaka-boom !!!!!


https://im.rediff.com/news/2010/jul/28slide1.jpg

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Army reconstion does not list nigeria has a user. Only india is listed.


Has for armyguid. We can use army guid a source any time you want. They say SA has over 500 MBTs and 86 G6s so yeah you still think they a trust worthy site?
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by zaandrew: 2:13pm On Nov 08, 2013
agaugust: hahaha grin

now you say the information about south african 73km shells for G6 artillery is classified ? when did south african military start hiding simple information ?

ask @THIZA, he will tell you DENEL is desperate to market that 73km range shell and the G6 artillery for 73km long range to any ready buyer in world market today.

classified ? when we said nigerian EPE missile/rocket current test range is classifies, you and your buffoon south african friends especially that coconut brain @saengine were all shouting us down and calling it fake.


see here mister fool, different countries are making different shells for artillery and they dont come to your house to tell you about it, china has the longest range artillery shell in the world, NOT sweden/american Excalibur 60km, NOT south african DENEL G6 V-LAP 73km shells, the longest range shell and artillery is made in CHINA with range 100km !!!

china has the best artillery range in the world , you did not know about their shell, you boast of DENEL 73km, i said you are completely out-dated on current artillery development worldwide, mister @andrewza you are completely lost in time grin

SOURCE : http://www.wantchinatimes.com/news-subclass-cnt.aspx?id=20130701000036&cid=1101



now i say, south african army 73km range shell for G6 artillery is NOT found to be in service with your army, it is only in DENEL testing laboratory and warehouse until aosuth african army buys one and we get source that they bought it.

manufacturing and testing a weapon does NOT mean your military has it for use in their armoury in case of war.

nigeria manufactures PROFORCE MISSILE CARRIER ARMOURED VEHICLE since last year but it us not yet in nigerian army armoury.

dont ever in your life try to come here again and tell us you counted any country's artillery shells and know all the ranges they have. how will you get that information ?

show us here now the shells that united arab emirate and oman are using for their G6 artillery, show us the details with source to prove that the two arab countries armies have or dont have 73km or 67km range shells for the G6 artillery guns they bought from DENEL


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How is that simmpile infomation? The fact the round is there, it techncal details and cost are not classfied. The numbers of them in serves, how it is made, where they stored extra is clasfied.

Did you even read the link, it is a estmastion and maybe has a result of a printing or translastion era. Aka it is not proven. Sa reached those ranges by firing the round in dubia at iDEX aka every body watched it. You sure you in the defence industry because you act more like a child.

Do you even know what is in our armouries, I don't even know what is in all our armories other than the navies one and there are things there not listed any where? If you do know so NIA may start watching you.


That info is has I said is not public domian stuff.


I never said I counted shells. Only that the 60km of the FH77 l52 is achieved with the excalber round that currently only 4 countries use with maybe another 2. SA is not nearly has pick has the US when it comes to arms deals.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by zaandrew: 1:49pm On Nov 08, 2013
agaugust: desperate to create a big war picture for south african cowardly ANC guerrilla men turned into a half baked army grin

you want to deceive people here and make M23 rebels look powerful like Kenyan army grin

show us source to prove all the above weapons you now claim M23 rebels have, source of the named weapons and the numbers, plus a proof that they are all operational.

same way you ask us to prove nigerian weapons when we claim anything grin

photo of the 'MIGHTY M23 REBELS SUPER MOBILE ROCKET ARTILLERY MRLS OF ANDREWZA' is shown below grin

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when did i say they where has powerfull has the kenyan army? i said they where a real milltary threat.

there is no one source on m23 arments but ever link on them here gives a bit of there hardware info away. and did you not do the same think with seleka?

you laugh now at the 107mm MRL, it is light and very mobil and deadly vs infantry and light vechiles, many parabats and SF units use it.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by zaandrew: 1:35pm On Nov 08, 2013
agaugust: now that you want to claim fake victory for your half soweto-half french helicopter gunship, you confess that Rooivalk is a slow helicopter, was it not you that was boasting during naval blockade combat against nigerian coastal artillery, that it carries some imaginary air to air missiles and you used it to challenge a supersonic speed nigerian F-7 jet ?

i told you then that helicopters dont fight against jets, you were telling some foolish story about iran-iraq war and saying things opposite to world military combat tactic/principles.

now you have finally exposed your own foolishness grin

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So is the swedish gripen half american since it uses a amercan engian, how about your new OPVs are they half german. But just like when I asked qustions that you don't like I know you will not anserw.

The rooivalk is one of the fastes choppers around but all helcopters are slow compared to jets.


Does not matter how fast the luanch platform is, it the speed of the missiel that matters


Helcopters do not hunt jets, but they can fight back. Speed is not every thing.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by zaandrew: 1:26pm On Nov 08, 2013
agaugust: there are F-7 Jets with 37km radar that is BVR, and they will fire a chinese BVRM . google is your friend.

no MiG 21 has the F-7 swept wing of nigeria's type, MiG 21 is delta wing, a major superiority for F-7 jet in dogfight and ground attack where vert tactical maneuver is required to evade or attack the enemy target.

if MiG 21 is better than F-7, china will fill up its air force with MiG 21 instead of the F-7 jets that is still china's largest jet force till year 2015.

chef/cook grin
Just because your radar range is 37km does not mean you can fire that far.


Delta wing aircraft are far frome poor in manvrbliety.


The F7 is the chines version of the Mig21 alterd for chinas needs. I deed not say the Mig21 was better. If you recall I said I don't see a diffrence.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by zaandrew: 1:19pm On Nov 08, 2013
chris365: Look. if it was the defunct SADF, about 30 dead soldiers is enough reason for them to bomb bangui to stone age. They wouldn't be scared of reactions from France. Just like SADF went into Angola with full knowledge they risked going to war with Russia.

SANDF fled from CAR after seleka dared it by brutally killing almost 30 of it's troops and displayed captured equipments for the whole world to see. Is that not enough disappointment?

Now you want to beat your chest from a battle you saw from last row seat. Abeg take your propaganda to your fellow gullible south Africans.
We did not loose 30 dead though. All so there was no risk of war between russia and south africa. That war would bring the US in on our side. SA had (whil has it still in effect)a mutail defence agrement with the US goverment. You more than welcom to chech the us goverment lists of treats to confirm this. Russia knew about this and did not want to start WW3 over some cuban adventure.


What would bombing bangue achieve? SA purpsly did not fight in the citie to minmise coltral damge. Does that sound like a nastion that just bombs cities, all so seleka was and is a occuping force. The civlians there do not support seleka. It is like the RAAF deciding to level paris because the germains were there.




Since when is 15 all most 30. Did you do maths at school. In the milltary run away is rout. A rout is disorgnised and chartrised by solders dumping persnal gear so they can run faster. A retreat is close to route but milltary dissplin is maintained and only what is uneasry or impratcal to carry is left behind a withdrawl is when you redploy to a better locastion.


No SANDF forces where routed in CAR, the para company was encirceled at the y jucstion. The para company fought a fighting withdrawl leaveing vechiles behind because they could physcaly not travel there. All so niether the geeko or landcruiser offer any protecstion but are nice big targets. At the end of the day the sa forces withdrew to the airport since there was no pratcal resone to hold the poliece base. Limted transports ment some stuff was left behind.

So again when did the SANDF run away.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by zaandrew: 10:52am On Nov 07, 2013
chris365: You know I said this earlier that south Africans will soon start claiming the glory for the efforts of the tanzanians. They ran when they saw real battle only to claim glory for a battle they played back seat support sad SANDF are just a bunch of scared sissies grin and south Africans very gullible and propagandists. SMH
When did we run?
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by zaandrew: 7:43am On Nov 07, 2013
agaugust: what type of Tank ? T-72 ?

what type of Artillery ? Bofors F-77B ?

what type of Anti-Aircraft guns ? Type 90 Computerized ?

how dangerous is M23 rebel force ?

5,000 weak M23 rebels fighting against a whole world of united nations armies from europe, asia, africa with about 20,000 UN troops and Ukrainian and Indian air force Mi-35 helicopters gunships combined together.

compare that to 120,000 liberian and sierra leonean rebels combined, that fought against 15,000 soldiers deep inside a heavy rain forest/jungle...and Libya's Ghadaffi gave Charles Taylor rebels hand held anti-tank missiles and many truck mounted anti-aircarft guns including 35mm cannon.

use your brain if you have any !

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T55s

122mm, 107mm MRLS extra. The AO is so small that the range benfit of say a FH77 will be meanless. In DRC you want light guns not big heavy long range stuff.


Up to 37mm, they don't have radar but nore do we have jets there. This is slow moving choppers.


DRC is the size of western europe with those 20 000 peace keepers spread all over it. And only the FIB is taking any active part in operastions


Yes rebels that wore life jackets has body armour, that EO chased arouned with 1 hind. Please.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by zaandrew: 7:31am On Nov 07, 2013
agaugust: so you are saying this now ?

why did you not say this when your foolish south african friends like @msauza and @mike.za were saying nigeria has no real war experience be cause we did not fight another country for many years....as if it is an act of african brotherliness for nigeria to invade other african countries and begin to tear them to pieces with our superior military might.

south africans think like fools you know grin

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How offen doi commint on what my south african commrads are saying, I am talking to you nigerians not them. This is what I am saying not south africa.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by zaandrew: 7:29am On Nov 07, 2013
agaugust: a navy cook must be confused since this artillery matter is bigger than onions and tomatoes grin

you never complained when i posted beegeagle source information that nigeria has upgraded its scorpion tanks from 76mm gun to 90mm gun with longer range. now you complain about upgrade of nigerian Bofors artillery from 30km to 60km gun range.

you r daily prayer is that no other country in africa will every get artillery range close to the 67km of south african G6 artillery.

sorry to disappoint you, God refused to answer your selfish prayers grin

anyway, your information is very out-dated, India has completed upgrade its Bofors L52 artillery, i even watched its video public demonstration where it is declared to fire 42km shell without rocket assistance or excalibur.

@andrewza, you and all your outdated south african friends are victims of very poor research and underestimating other countries weapons advancement

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there is a long standing upgrade for the scorpion from a 76mm to 90mm. it is not new. these new FH77 are just that. New, has in no one has them in serves yet, not sweden and not india. so how does nigeria have them?


the germain SPH could if it had the same shells has south africa match the G6 prety close. Not nigeria does not have them in serves and they do use long range denel shells.

mm i find that supect you sure it was the B05 or the upgraded B02. and has i said they can reach 40km useing base bleed rounds. note 2km is from the higher altuied the test was doneat, shells fired in SA travel farther than when fired in dubia. And i did not say 40km could not be done.

my info may be out of date, the FH77 is not somthing i real care about so i do not realy focuse on it, nor on what the indian army is doing these days. so i will admit my info on weather these new FH77 are in serves in india but it is no more than 1 year old
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by zaandrew: 7:12am On Nov 07, 2013
agaugust: oh yes you will choose a weaker weapon for battle, why not ?

since you are just a navy cook/chef, costly mistake in combat is a must for your level grin
The mig21-97 can fire BVRMs somthing the J7 can not do. The USAF where impresed by indias so yeah weaker my ass. Has I said the J7 is no difrent from a Mig21.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by zaandrew: 7:08am On Nov 07, 2013
agaugust: you want to speak with authority about artillery shells of other countries armies that have not sent their information to you.

who told you that Excalibur is the only artillery shell that Bofors haubit can fire to 60km range ?

do you know what India has developed ? India makes long range ballistic missiles with range of 5,000 km !!!

http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/agni-5-india-s-most-potent-nuclear-capable-ballistic-missile-launched-successfully-418800

tell your 3 year old son a big lie that India cannot make shells for its Bofors artillery to range 60km and sell the same shells to nigeria.

you want to use public internet to get 100% perfect information about other the artillery shells that different countries develop, test, use and store in their armoury.

you are a big joker grin

you think military is like police ?

show us the list and source of how many 67km to 73 km range shells south african army has in its armoury for its G6 artillery.

DENEL makes or tests a weapon does not mean it is in use by south african army. A-Darta missile is NOT yet in service.

there is NO popular military weapons sales log website that lists how many and what type of artillery shells nations buy, the list will be in millions of shells of all types, high explosive, armour piercing, heat anti-armour, smoke, illumination, incendiary, etc.

if you want to count artillery shells of countries, you will count till your head grows grey hairs.

dont try to be a master of what you are not. fool grin

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Please show me another round that the B05 can fire to 60km or beyond 40km.

So the fact india makes SRBMs with 5000km range means they can make high end lonf range 155mm rounds? By your logic since SA makes the longest ranged 155mm rounds we can make long rang SLBMs.


India is only going to get around 40km out of them. Has they have menstioned.

Mm india has stated how far they plan to reach with there new FH77s and they not going to hit 60km since that is done with 1 round used by 4 countries and 2 more are waiting for aprovel to get them. India and nigeria are not on the list.


That infomastion would be clasfied, the fact denel makes and sells the longest ranged 155mm shells is not.

A-darter will be in serves next year and all A-darters fired so far have been fired by SAAF.

Remember Denenl is owened by the state and a lot of it's RnD budget comes from the SANDF. Any thing in Denels arsenal is in south africas since it is a states arms company.


You correct but the excalber is not just a shell it is a sytem and it is a very closly gaurded one with only a few countries useing it since both sweden and america do not want it falling in to the hands of some one who will copy it. Every user of the round is knowen but how many each user has is not.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by zaandrew: 5:25am On Nov 07, 2013
chris365: we never said the Nigerian military budget is above SA and you don't know the actual amount. it's always classified cos more funds come from other sources.
we never said the Nigerian military budget is above SA and you don't know the actual amount. it's always classified cos more funds come fro other sources.

do you really want to compare SANDF financial crisis to Nigerian military? do you really want to? cheesy




Andrewza you are obviously a confused navy chef grin. where in that video did the reporter say they performed that jump for the first time? what time please?

a quote from the reporter.. "some have acquired mastery in night warfare. these 35 just dropped from a plane with para shoots at about 9pm with ladies among them and none of them looks injured. they joyfully expressed how fulfilled they are serving their fatherland"

does that sound like first timers to you? fact is you've been proven wrong and are looking for another excuse to save you zulu A.SS grin
The amout is not clasfied. No democratic nastion hids how much is given. And you minster actualy came out and said how much was promised(aka budgeted) yet not all was given. So you got less that the budget.


This phras is the one that has me sxratching my head
"acquired mastery in night warfare"
Where they not masters before hand?
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by zaandrew: 5:15am On Nov 07, 2013
chris365: err!!! seleka that you ran away from, Liberian and sierra leon rebels, al-shabaab.

rwanda started withdrawing their support for m23 before the intervention brigade fired their first shot. why won't it be over fast when their line of support has been cut. do you understand the principles of war at all?
Seleka had some of the stuff. The rebels in serrie leon and liberia use to. Wear tutus and life jackets has body armour and had zero training. Al shabab had some of the stuff.


M23 had proper art not just mortas but MRLs, field guns and howitzers. AA up to 37mm AA guns, tanks, extra extra.

M23 was a formibal enemy and the fight was expeget to be long. It was over so fast the FIB did not have a next target planed.

M23 is only one group and it was rather new but it was the only group with enough force and numbers to threaten a City.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by zaandrew: 5:08am On Nov 07, 2013
chris365: you are very funny. first it was that the army never had any large scale drill this year and now it's "they seem like they just learned those skills". grin you are confused. grin

Nigerian army training and doctrine is no way the same with SANDF so i don't understand what your comparison is all about. and i was talking about the NAVY and army. Nigerian army amphibious force also takes part in Navy drills.

and for your information, most of the troops that took part in the AFRICAN WINDS were drawn from the army.
[img]http://beegeagle.files./2012/05/vickers-mbtnan.jpg[/img]
I am still not sure if that is a large scale exersize?

Really. How many forghin army personal took part in this last exersize


That photo was uploaded 2012 and has nothing to do with african winds.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by zaandrew: 10:06pm On Nov 06, 2013
chris365: please stop trying to make me laugh grin

Nigeria holds military drills every year and we just upped it this year by involving world military powers.

the only reason M23 was defeated is because it's backers (Uganda and rwanda) backed down due to western and UN pressures. without support, they are just another rag tag rebel group and would be easily defeated. FACT

their previous victory was proof of rwandan army involvement.

i repeat, it's nothing to brag about cos they were choked politically before you sent you scrap to engage them. engage a demoralize force and they are just another target practice..Fact wink
Again that was Navy. Not army there is a rather big diffrence. And where there MBTs at that exersize, IFV, arty all that was shown was infantry, APCs and light armour.


Yes how many rebel groups have things I listed. And M23 was still getting support from rwanda has late has augast and M23 leadship is in rawanda and not in chains so they did not loose all support.

They had support in agust and lost then to.



They still had thousands of fighters, entreched postions, AMMO and WEPAONS. They may have lost there backers but they still had wepaons stockpiled. I would under stand if they lost due to no rwandan aid if the fight was long and drawn out. But it was not. It was over very fast.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by zaandrew: 9:56pm On Nov 06, 2013
chris365: these south africans don't know sh1t about Nigeria. they only depend on warped journalism to feed on.
I know the nigriean miltary budget it far lower than that of SA, your DOD is in a lot of finacial troubel and you fighting a low intesty counter insugiancy war. So you have less money to train in other asspects. The fact that vedioe had partroopers performing a night jump for the first time during the exersize is a indecator that it is not standard among all nigerian paratroopers.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by zaandrew: 9:51pm On Nov 06, 2013
I was talking army not navy.

And that vedie made it seem like those people just learned those skills? That seems very strange and very difrent to a SA milltary exersize. In SA they all ready know every thing they doing just now putting it together. Still intristed in the numbers taking part and units.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by zaandrew: 7:58pm On Nov 06, 2013
rka1: So much for your FACTS. Jut face it, you know nothing of the Nigerian Armed Forces and equipment apart from what you read online, which in most cases is laughable. Anyway, we prefer it this way as there will be a lot of shocked faces, especially in the southern hemisphere.
It is reported by janes, ISS and other crederbil sources that your FH77 are in storage. Persnaly I don't care but they are the L38 model.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by zaandrew: 7:51pm On Nov 06, 2013
rka1: There are regular training exercises. Just because the armed forces don't regularly carry out photo shoots doesn't mean there are no exercises.


COMBAT ARMS TRAINING WEEK: NIGERIAN ARMY ARMOURED, INFANTRY CORPS’ TO HOLD JOINT TRAINING/FIREPOWER DEMO EXERCISE 14-18 MAY

Posted on May 11, 2012 by beegeagle

INFORMATION NIGERIA
10 May, 2012

THE Nigerian Army Armoured Corps
Headquarters in Bauchi State, in
conjunction with the Nigerian Army
Infantry Corps, will hold a joint yearly
training week from Monday, May 14,
2012, to Friday, May 18, 2012. It is tagged: “Combat arms training
week (CATWEEK) 2012” and has the
theme “Repositioning the combat
arms through training and equipment
to meet contemporary security
challenges.”

In a statement issued yesterday in Jos,
Plateau State, the Army Public Relations Officer, Lt. Ishaku Gaji Takwa, said the training offer officers and soldiers of the Infantry and Armoured Corps in the country the opportunity to interact intellectually and prepare the Corps against the challenges of modern warfare.

The statement added that resource
persons were drawn from the military
and the academia to expose the
Infantry and the Armoured personnel
to new trends in their fields.

Takwa said Governor Isa Yuguda of Bauchi State would be the special
guest of honour while the Chief of
Army Staff, Lt. Gen. Azubuike Ihejirika and Governor Ibrahim Hassan Dankwambo of Gombe State are among the dignitaries expected at the training session.

The opening ceremony will be concluded with a cocktail party at the Hassan Usman Katsina Officers’ Mess, Obienu Barracks, Bauchi, at 8.00 p.m. He said there would also be an equipment display at the Hassan Usman Katsina Officers’ Mess and firepower demonstration on Infantry and Armoured equipment at Victor Kure
Armoured Range in Geji Village along Bauchi-Jos Road on Monday and Thursday.


http://beegeagle./2012/05/11/combat-arms-training-week-nigerian-army-armoured-infantry-corps-to-hold-joint-trainingfirepower-demo-exercise-14-18-may/
That's last year, actualy it all most 2 years.

SA does it twice a year. Though this year 1 was a muilti naistional exersize with the USA.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by zaandrew: 3:44pm On Nov 06, 2013
chris365: Bunch of hypocrites. The other time you south Africans were accusing Nigerian military of not having conventional war experience while Nigeria had never been challenged by any country. Now you want to tell us the use of you roivaak against a rag tag rebel group as something to be proud of because SA has not been to war for 23 yaers. Don't make me laugh.

can m23 be compared as more sophisticated than the then Liberian and Sierra Leon? M23 does not have a standard anti aircraft gun and SA is not the lead in the fight. So bros, it's not something to be proud of yet.
Let me put it this way. When was the last time nigeria had a large scale milltary ecersize with focuses on covenstional war where your Tanks, IFV arty extra could be used?

Next nigeria may not have fought a convesniol war but it has never been at peace.

Last. M23 rag tag rebel force? They a dissplined, well trained, experianced milltary force. They used Tanks, arty, Anti aicraft guns, had standized uniform, held phiyscal terrortory, used radios and were a dangourus threat.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by zaandrew: 5:02am On Nov 06, 2013
agaugust: you are not even ashamed to post that kind of story, read what your own source said at the end of the story..... grin

"This is the first time Rooivalk helicopters have engaged in combat since the prototype’s first flight 23 years ago." grin

http://www.africandefence.net/after-23-years-rooivalks-fire-first-shots-in-drc/

you are boasting about south african rooivalk helicopters firing rockets against illiterate M23 rebels that have NO SINGLE anti-aircraft missile grin

M23 rebels 14.5mm gun is just like a boko haram weapon, you call that anti-aircraft gun ? are we in 1940 second world war era ? grin

fly that Rooivalk helicopter against ordinary Kenyan army and see how it will be shot down in 5 minutes grin

M23 rebels is now south african standard for testing military power.

soweto fools grin

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SA has not been to war 23 years and in 2 months 24 years hence non of our new weapons have been shot at. And I am pround of that fact war should not be celebrated. M23 had heavier wepaons but abbdon most of them during the FARDC attack witch is somthing SA can be proud of. Since many of those solders including senior officers where trained by the SANDF.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by zaandrew: 4:55am On Nov 06, 2013
I find it odd that nigeria got there's upgraded before india. Since india only just teseted a protyp of the FH77L45 and swedden has yet to put in to serves there L52s so how did nigiria jump the line?

And the L52 is not just chaing the barrel the FH77 B05 is a lot more it has new fir control coputors(somthing you mocked and said was not needed) ammunastion handling, you need to modfie the entire platform. Yes you could just switch the L39 barrel for a L52 that is not hard but then you limting your self.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by zaandrew: 4:37am On Nov 06, 2013
agaugust: nigerian military have electronic warfare anti-jamming devices, etc, we just had a full scale modenization of nigerian air defences with India and Israel.

nigerian Roland missiles and Type 90 anti-aircarft artillery will shoot down all south african drones, helicopters and jet fighters.

F-7 jet will shoot down Gripen jet, or both shoot down each other and die together.

then nigerian MBB-339 jet fighters will use rockets in ground attack mode to wipe out south african G6 artillery guns.

GAME OVER grin

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I saw F7shoot down gripen and that is it. The I laughed so hard I fell out off bed. You cliam the F7 can shoot down a gripen and claim to be in the defense industry. You sound more ike a kid who still wets the bed. I mean really.
I would take a mig21-97 over a J7
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by zaandrew: 4:29am On Nov 06, 2013
Wether nigeria upgraded to the 155mm L52 is only one issue(and I want proof you did) the fact is that 60km is achieved useing Excalibur rounds. Nigeria is not a user of Excalibur rounds nor of the 45km bouns rounds. I am not even sure if nigeria uses bass bleed but I will give you the benfit of the doubt since they made by a few countries, even then it is 40km. So the max range is 40km(that is if you upgraded to the L52) not 60km. Stop pedlialing your bull.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by zaandrew: 3:29pm On Nov 04, 2013
agaugust: .

[size=16pt] hahahah grin grin grin grin

nigerian army has the 60km range artillery named Bofors FH-77 B05 L52 artillery gun

sources are many, i only quoted beegeagle source for today to make you south africans go craaazy cheesy

when i close from work, i will post other international sources with 100% clear information

many Bofors FH-77 artillery versions have been upgraded and re-developed for all countries that use them and so increased range

nigeria does NOT need permission from you south africans before we buy 60km range artillery cheesy

not only south africa has a 60km range artillery in the world.....fools grin[/size]

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Considring the wepaon is not even in full serves with sweden where it is built I say you talking bull. There is only 2 countries for the order of the archer. Sweden and norway both with 24. India has a mondnisation program but it is in delopement. So unless you can proove other wise you do not have any FH77L52 archers.


Next that 60km range is from a exculbar round. Useing bass bleed you get 35km range the 60km XM982 Excalibur is used by swenden, USA, canda and germany with norway and austrial intristed.


Nigira does not even have the FH77L52 and still uses the L32. Only you and your moronic freinds think other wise.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by zaandrew: 9:41am On Nov 04, 2013
agaugust: .

[size=16pt]nigerian army's new long range 60km k.iller artillery[/size]

truck towed at 80km/hr to 90km/hr speed on ground to close-in on enemy

self mobile without being towed at speed 8km/hr

fires 60km range artillery shells on enemy targets 60km away

fully computerized targeting and navigation systems

48 units in service with nigerian army

one of the best advanced systems and longest range modern artillery guns in the world

matches and can k.ill south african G6 artillery guns in battle

proves that south african army has NO significant artillery gun range advantage over nigeria.

http://beegeagle./2010/05/20/nigerian-army-inventory-as-of-2009/


nigerian army ultra-modern FH-77 B05 L52 artillery gun type....hiding in the bush to hit the enemy 60km away

https://www.armyrecognition.com/images/stories/europe/united_kingdom/weapons/fh77_towed_howitzer/FH77_B05_L52_155mm_towed_howitzer_artillery_weapon_system_BAE_Systems_United_Kingdom_British_640.jpg
There is a lot wrong with this post.

1 and this is a very big one. Nigeria does not have any archer sytems. The sytem is new and not even in full profucstion. Not even sweden or finland have a full battery.

2 this is a nother very big one. 60km range is achieved through exulber rounds that are very high tech(meaning they expensive and no nigerian copy), need a lot of suppory to use(you need speciol targeting sytems and computors) and this is a big one nigeria does not use them nore will america sell them to you.

2 nigeria uses the L38 with a max range of 27km so please try this with somer where else.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by zaandrew: 3:15pm On Nov 03, 2013
NaijaPikinGidi: If I don't have an actual response ... what have you just responded to above? I have said here time and again that it is not my place to discuss internal or operational NA military information here especially when I work as a custodian of same! You are yet to see me offload dossiers of internal or operational information of your weak defence force with all the information available to us. Go through all my posts and you will see a clear pattern of interaction! I am on ground and know what is unfolding.

You seem quite keen on reading stories about BH attacks on soft targets? Why not visit the theatre to experience first hand action and a few bullets on your blockhead? It's time you go dish up food for your hungry seafarers! And don't forget to do the dishes!
so you dont have any thing to say? why dont you take your own advice then
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by zaandrew: 11:14am On Nov 03, 2013
NaijaPikinGidi: AndrewZA please if you lack anything smart or factual to say I will suggest you just shut up and go cook dinner for your senior seafarer colleagues! I am on ground and know exactly what is going down with the runaway BH rascals! We are the Armed Forces of the Federal Republic of Nigeria!! We fight to delete the the last enemy standing!
So you don't have a actual response to what I said? Only some smart has commint. Perhapse you should take your own advise.


And again with the chef insult. Firstly I am not a chef seconadly if you knew what chefs in the navy did you would be shocked.


It sunday let's see if BH attacks some where.

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