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PenSniper:I don't. |
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PenSniper:The threat of hell is the reason I would never be a Christian. The very thought of the idea of subjecting a person to eternal torture for rejecting a way of life out of 'freewill' is galling to any sane and sound mind. 1 Like |
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An incident happened in Barkin Ladi local government in Plateau State. Young man was accused by the Special Task Force of stealing a riffle. Rumors said that he was tortured for over 3 weeks. People were fighting for him, because later he was found to be innocent. You can see his photos below. The details are sketchy, so if you have some more information about this incident, please share it with us. http://www.ob9ja.com/2014/09/young-man-tortured-by-nigerian-army.html?utm_source=&utm_medium=facebook&m=1 1 Share
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alexleo: @Uyi,One question: you believe in predestination? |
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EvilBrain1: Our ancestors were not just ape-like, they were apes. In fact, every human being on this planet is an ape. Chimpanzees are more closely related to humans than they are to gorillas. And we, with the chimps and gorillas form a natural group (the African apes) that is genetically distinct from orangutans and the lesser apes (gibbons).The truth. The more-than-gospel truth. 1 Like |
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malvisguy212: as our athiest friends are working hard to convince you. We the christians (your brothers) will pray for you in silent.Silence, not silent. Basic English Grammar. 1 Like |
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CrazyMan: Nope I won't cos I don't think I would have time to start answering silly questions (no thanks to their atheist friends) during our family devotion.No. Joshua 1:8 states that "This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success". Thank me later. 6 Likes 3 Shares |
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ba7man: Where do atheists come from??...chai... We have a long way to go in this parts. 1 Like |
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Gloria3389:Nah. I'm a feminist. But I'm rather more "evangelical" and outspoken about atheism in real life than here. You look good BTW. |
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Gloria3389:Oh! I was merely comparing one garbage to another. Online atheist you say? Trust me, I'm polite with your trash here. You don't wanna meet me in real life. 2 Likes |
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Gloria3389:Ask the Islamic guys. I'm an atheist. |
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Look at grown men embarrassing themselves. It's a shame, really. The Quran has more scientific citations than the Bible. Plus, Philosophy and Science go way back. 2 Likes |
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finofaya:Interesting. |
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free2ryhme:There is no such thing as a sane Christian. |
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Raiders: If we are to go by the bible. he went to heaven and we are waiting for him to come back to destroy earth.That's outta the question. Did Jesus, if he existed, commit suicide? |
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Raiders: Jesus Christ did not exist. how can a man that never existed commit suicide?We're assuming he existed and lived as reported in the Bible. |
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So, did Jesus commit suicide or not? Let’s examine the situation. First of all, people stating that Jesus committed suicide admit that he has a full power to control the situation; In other words, they acknowledge his divine nature; they agree that Jesus is God. But In this case, speaking about a suicide is nonsense because the God is immortal, and “the term suicide is applied to all cases of deaths”; the death of an immortal, as we understand, is a contradiction in terms. The Bible shows Jesus’ immortality in a number of cases; John, for example, says, “And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth” (John 1: 14). Thus, Jesus is the Word which existed in the beginning of time, has lived among us as a human, and will judge the humankind at the end of times. Is it relevant to talk about a suicide of the God’s Word? “But Jesus was the God and a human at the same time” someone might argue, “and his human nature was terrified by the death.” ” Abba, Father, all things are possible unto thee; remove this cup from me,” Jesus says (Mark 14: 36). If there is a fear of the death, doesn’t it mean that the death is real for Jesus? And if it is real, allowing the enemies to kill himself is a suicide; the death “resulting directly, or indirectly, from a positive or a negative act of the victim himself, which he knows will produce these results.” This statement is logical; however, “lays down his life” has a different meaning for Jesus than for mortals. “For this reason the Father loves me, because I lay down my life, that I may take it again. No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again; this charge I have received from my Father" (John 10: 17,18). Jesus also says that “I and the Father are one” (John 10:30). I believe that trying to understand Jesus’ human nature apart from his divine nature is meaningless; Christ could be studied only as a whole. Consequently, the death does not exist for him; and if there is no death, there is no suicide. But what cup is Jesus talking in the Garden of Gethsemane about? What is he trying to avoid if not death? The Bible does not give us a direct answer, but we can presume that Jesus is naturally afraid of upcoming sufferings. The Jesus’ moment of weakness is very short, however, and he faces his fate courageously. Now, let’s consider this case from an atheistic perspective, and presume that Jesus is an ordinary man; I’m doing it because there is a wide-spread opinion that Jesus commits a so-called suicide by cop. It refers to a situation when a victim intentionally provokes somebody, usually a law enforcement officer, to kill him. I think this claim is not serious because Jesus does not provoke anybody. If the man tried, for example, to grab Pontius Pilate by the beard to provoke the procurator’s guards to slash him, then it would be a suicide by cop; otherwise, there is nothing but an ordinary execution. Lastly, another interesting scenario is possible; what if Jesus is not a god, but a powerful prophet as he is seen in Islam, for example. As we remember, the Old Testament prophets do not hesitate to use their powers to protect themselves and kill people. Thus, Elijah slays 850 pagan prophets, and his pupil Elisha makes she-bears tear 42 children to pieces just because they have called him baldhead (1King18: 19,40; 2King2:21). Thus, in this case, Jesus is mortal and he has a power to save his life; however, he is not doing it to fulfill the God’s will. Consequently, his death is resulted “directly, or indirectly, from a positive or a negative act of the victim himself.” So, I think that we have a right to say that from this viewpoint, Jesus Christ has committed suicide. Rational opinions are highly welcomed. |
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emmyskies:Yep. It's like a poorly written Apocalypse movie script.... And you can save your pity for yourself. |
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www.nairaland.com/1007141/biochip-mark-beast I wrote that article when I was still a Christian like you. |
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Idiotic Christians everywhere promoting idiocy If you're so tired of the world and it's technological advancements, do the needful and go inherit your mansions. 2 Likes |
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GJames: May i ask how you all came to accept evolution. It seems you all just accepted it because you can't accept creationism and not because you 've seen evolution at work. You 've never witnessed an animal growing longer necks for stretching to eat something beyond its reach neither have you seen a Snake transforming into an alligator, you just accept it because scientists (who can't even physically prove it) say it is so.Hopeless! |
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malvisguy212: this is your actual statementYou're trolling this thread. Above lies evidence of plagiarism on the part of Paul. What do you have to say about that? |
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loveroftruth:No, why? |
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I think that, though I can't speak for everyone, atheists are against it. It is not just atheists who are against circumcision. The idea of forcing an infant onto a table and cutting off erogenous tissue from him is barbaric. You don't have to be an atheist to be opposed to such an idea. I do have a contempt towards religious ideas that demand the circumcision of infants, but I mostly have a contempt towards circumcision because of what has been removed without the person's permission. The foreskin has three major functions. 1. It prevents the glans (head) from becoming dry and numb. The glans is a mucous membrane and is not meant to be exposed to the outside environment. 2. The foreskin reduces friction during sex, increasing pleasure for both partners. 3. The foreskin itself contains 20,000+ nerve endings directly contributing to sexual pleasure. Having these removed permanently removes an enormous portion of a man's sexual pleasure. It that sense, yes. You have been damaged. 1 Like |
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The first time I heard him speak about national issue was when President Jonathan wanted to contest in 2011. He said Baba God will send good leaders to Nigeria and we ended up with President Goodluck Jonathan. If president GEJ is what Baba intended to send to us, all I can say is “Baba, you can do better than this.” Epic! |
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treasuregr8:Hello Pretty! |
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Marc9: Admission is nt offered by Jamb, or UI, no it's nt. Admission is offered by God!This is super story. 3 Likes |
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...swallow a Buffalo... Dear Infidels, Never give up in your efforts to reach out to the unsaved. Overlook the mockery. Answer their worn-out silly questions. Plead with them to see reason and use their common sense before their ignorance sends them to premature destruction. 3 Likes |
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onihaxy: Sauce?. Abi na source?http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/sick.htm |
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Doyle "Buddy" Harrison , Founder of Harrison House Books, son-in-law of Kenneth E. Hagin died Nov. 1998 of cancer . He was the founder of Faith Christian Fellowship, the WOF denomination. How could he have died of cancer? He was in the "faith movement" BEFORE Copeland and others . . . 0. E.W. Kenyon , Father of the Word of Faith Movement. One of the initial teachers of divine healing and it always being God's will to heal His children. Died in a coma brought on by a malignant tumor. Copeland teaches that Kenyon was sitting in a rocking chair, his daughter came into the room and Kenyon said "there's Jesus, good bye," and went to glory. This is a lie. He died from disease . 1. John Osteen , mega-church pastor in Houston - his wife, Dodie got liver cancer and through medical attention survived . John Osteen is more sound today than when he initially began with the renewal movement, he is probably not as much a WOF teacher as he used to be. 2. Frederick K. Price, Word of Faith mega-church pastor in Los Angeles - his wife, Betty got cancer and was medically treated (chemo-therapy). "If you need a crutch upon or something to help you get along, then praise God, hobble along until you get your faith moving to the point that you don’t need a crutch." How Faith Works pp. 92-92 I guess after all the years of sitting under "anointed" faith teaching by one of the movements leading faith teachers was not enough for Fred’s wife - she needed a doctor after all. 3. Jamie Buckingham, Discipleship Movement & charismatic author - died of cancer . He was under a medical doctors care. 4. Charles Capps, Word of Faith teacher, teaches power of our words to create reality - his wife got cancer and was medically treated . I don’t deny the existence of disease. I deny the right of that disease to exist in this body, because I’m the Body of Christ." The Tongue p. 43. I guess Chuck’s wife must have not spoken the right magic words to keep the cancer from her body. 5. John Wimber , Signs & Wonders Movement, author of "Power Healing," - just died from cancer . He too, was medically treated - no "power" healing for him, only chemo-therapy. 5a. Chris Wimber , GM of Vineyard Music died Feb 6, 1998 of melanoma cancer . Mahesh is supposed to have "healed" people of cancer and AIDS - yet there was no "healing" for Chris. 6. Mack Timberlake , Word of Faith pastor - suffering from throat cancer, getting medical attention . 7. R.W. Schambach , Faith Healer - got a quadruple heart bypass (from a real live human doctor) "You don’t have any problems, all you need is faith in God." 8. Dr. Hobart Freeman, Word of Faith teacher & pastor of Faith Assembly - over 90 people died in his church following his teaching and then Hobart died due to a medically treatable disease . I personally respect Hobart & his misguided followers. They actually took the teachings of the WOF movement to their logical conclusion. They stood on the "promises" alone and believed in their doctrine enough to face painful deaths instead of refusing to deny what they believed. Hobart Freeman is the most chilling testimony of the complete bankruptcy of the WOF errors. If WOF teachings were true they would have certainly worked for Hobart and the 90+ people who died in "faith believing." (BTW - Hobart is a name NONE of the WOF'ers mention, he was too serious about the teachings). 9. Joyce Meyer , the fast rising Word of Faith female preacher. On Aug. 31, 1998 on her morning broadcast admitted that she had breast cancer and was MEDICALLY TREATED . I found her admission to be very interesting. 9. Prophet Keith Grayton , Prophetic Movement - died of the complications of AIDS He spoke at our Church in Detroit, and declared he was totally healed. He died a year or so later. 10. Kenneth Hagin , "father" of the Word of Faith Movement - sister died of cancer, (he wears glasses as does his son). Hagin’s great faith and special anointing could not keep her on the planet or his eyesight from growing dim. 10a. Hagin's sister died from cancer. 10b. Hagin's wife had to go to the hospital for an operation even though Jesus " appeared" to Hagin and gave him a special anointing to heal the sick (read I Believe In Visions). If people believe Hagin is anointed then they will be healed, I guess his own family members doubt his healing powers. 11. Robert Tilton , God's "profit" admitted he had to get special face-lifting surgery because of the danger of getting ink poisoning from laying on all the prayer requests he received. Why didn't he command healing . . .like he does for countless others over the airwaves? |
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