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DoctorAlien:
You never answered my questions. Instead, you're trying, by your answer, to imply that GOD is inconsistent. GOD could have rained down fire and brimstone upon Amalek, but He chose to eliminate them through human agency. Thus, it was GOD executing Judgment on Amalek, not Israel killing them. The 10 Commandments are different from the ritual laws.

Dats wat u were told?
The ten commandments is just a part out of d entire law. It was not distinguished for any reason so wen u obey one u must obey d rest.
Let me even play along wit u on d law bla bla bla
Holy means sanctified and wat do u understand by sanctified?
After d death of Jesus how many times was sabath mentioned?
Wat do u understand by sacred?
Do u know d law was not meant for a gentile?
Do u know dat uncircumcision is not a sin?
Do u know dat d bible say dat d law could not justify us?
Do u know we are only justified by faith?
Wat happened wen Paul said That d law was unto death?
Do u know dat John still ministered to d Jews throughout his ministry?
Dat is why he quoted dat scripture
I need u to make reference to paul because dat was d person who had d ministry to d gentiles

Edenoscar:
Nuclear weapons are not legalized yet some countries has it and wont hesitate to use it if necessary

D same way cloning wont be legalized.
Do u think the international community would just fold their arms and watch north korea launch a nuclear weapon without a repraisal, grow up man

DoctorAlien:
Rom. 3:23 says that all have sinned. 1 Jn. 3:4 says that sin is the transgression of the Law. Now if those who are not Israelites have sinned too, which law did they transgress? What about those who lived before Sinai? If they have sinned too, which law did they transgress? Bear in mind that there is no sin where there is no law(Rom. 4:15), and that sin is the transgression of the law.

I dnt want to start going deep into d person of John and Paul because they were different. Paul defined sin as anything not done by faith. Ok lets talk about d law.
Start by listing d laws of moses dat Jesus abolished according to d bible before i start Quoting laws from exodus to deutronomy. Or u think d 10commandment is d only law abi.
D law said thou shall not kill period (no condition attached ) .
But God instructed d wiping off of d amalekites why?
So answer my 2 questions so dat i can go to where i packed d law and start bringing them out.

I live by grace and i am justified by grace and not by d law

Judas was not DESTINED BY GOD TO BETRAY JESUS.
Judas wasnt afraid to steal from Jesus and dat opened him to be used by d devil.
There was no prophesy about betrayal of Jesus until Jesus said so. And Jesus made his first statement about Judas wen he acknowledged dat Judas was a thief before he prophesied dat judas would betray him.
Assuming something bad has to happen to an evil man, God would never use a righteous man to execute it, he would make another evil man a vessel to d devil to carry out his plans.
Dat is why we shouldn't make ourselves available for devil to use

DoctorAlien:
No, I obey GOD because I love Him and because He saved me(Jn. 14:15).

Jesus surely regarded the Sabbath day highly(Matt. 5:17-19), and as a follower of Christ one has no reason to do otherwise.

Yes, I strive to obey the 10 Commandments, as Eccl. 12:13 and 1 Cor. 7:19, among many other passages, instruct us.

No1
I DNT TRY TO OBEY GOD.
2.Jesus harvested ears of corn on the sabath day d same with his disciples. Jesus didnt rest on the sabath day, he did his major job of healing on dat day. The only times the sabath was mentioned in the new testament was only to show why Jesus was in d Synagogue
The commandment was a school master to lead the Israeltes into canaan and it was not meant for me. The only commandment i was given was to Serve God with all my heart and den love

Before u start ranting over my number one
There is a different between driving a car in the direction of someone who wants to lead u to somewhere and allowing the person drive d car while u sit back and watch.
The Holy spirit is God and he is one with my spirit so d day i surrendered my life to him he drives my life so i dnt needs to try to obey him, he has d key and d steering so he drives

Edenoscar:
do you want them to use it on you?

Now go back and read my first comment dat u didn't understand before rushing to quote me.
Nuclear is not authorized d same with way cloning wont be

xtreemk:
ur no. 3 answer the question.. jesus died and is a bad day

No his death is synonymous to being in labor because i was about to be born.

DoctorAlien:
Do you think Christianity is freestyle? What makes you think that GOD would accept your own choices over His in worshiping Him? Who told Christians to disregard the Sabbath? If it is not GOD,

"Who is he that saith, and it cometh to pass, when the Lord commandeth it not?" Lam. 3:37

Yeah Christianity is freestyle. because grace makes it to be so. So u think ur doings and undoings makes u deserve d love of God?
In all the activities of Jesus does it look like he regarded the sabath? Apart from d fact dat he will to synagogue dat day.
So its d sabath day u want to keep abi, how many other old testament laws given on dat same time do u obey.
All these holder dan thou believers i call u guys hypocrites

Edenoscar:
nuclear weapons that can cause mass destruction is in the hands of several nations so your point is invalid

So is nuclear weapon legal?
Why hasnt its usage been approved?

DonroxyII:
lol, keep asslicking the jew's fairytales !!!

U re d chimpanzee not me , Chimpanzee is even better than you after all it can identify itself and reason within itself unlike that easily identify with fairytale downloaded into ur empty skull !!

Jesus was d creator of heaven n hell n everything
Yet, demons were in hell fighting him lol .... poverty mixed with ignorance/Stu.pid.ity .... Na mumu go kee u dia

Why dnt u want to be called a chimpanzee wen u great great granny was a chimpanzee and u are just a matured chimpanzee or rather a glorified chimpanzee?
As a christian i will gladly answer any name from d bible so as an atheist also be glad to be callled an ape or big bangie

rexbuton:
please gimme reference for NO 2..

I asked u not to ask for reference because i said it in a light mood, jokingly.

DonroxyII:
"every demon was in hell fighting Jesus" .... Na wa ooo ..... see mentality !

Whether its true or not wat effect does have on ur salvation (as a christian ) or ur chimpanzee evolute (as an atheist )
I was just being in a light mood. And yes its my mentality d creator of heaven and earth was in hell so every demon must be there to watch him

Its a good dat bro.
1. Jesus could have still refused to die because he had d choice. So victory began immediately he died.
2. Dat day was d only day there was no single demon on earth because every demon was in hell to fight Jesus (pls dnt ask me for biblical reference for this)
3. D day ur wife goes into labour can never be a bad day unless she dies in labor.
4. No single day is ever a bad day? God has made all days beautiful so it would rather be a sin seeing any God made as bad

And wat has d day Jesus died or d day Christians choose to remember wat he did for dem on d cross got to do wit ur salvation?

NoWorries7:
Answer: No
Sabath day is on Saturday not Sunday, thanks to Catholics who changed it. so they can worship the sun(holy sacrament) and Queen of heaven (A demon) but it doesn't matter where or when you choose to worship him. So far you worship him in Spirit and in truth.

Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.
John:4:21

But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
John:4:23

Does it really matter d particular day to go to Church and rest from work or not. Sabath no longer exists in d dictionary of Christians
There is no more a holy day apart from anyday we choose to sanctify. I can choose to sanctify anyday and call it a day for and my God. Even Jesus constantly derided d Sabath day and yet churches like seventh adventist cannot grow up to stop preaching sabath upandan?

I dnt care if d initial choice was a day to suite d worship of sun God or not. All days were made by God and there is no day we choose to honor God dat he wont accept the honor

CatfishBilly:
No it won't, a base pair is removed and is replaced with same non defective base pair. No anomaly or alteration of protein synthesis or triggering of any of that sort would happen, I'm telling ya.

It sounds more convincing on paper.but remember in reality things may be different. Wen u rule out these possibilities den d world maybe awaiting a great shock

CatfishBilly:
A correction won't trigger another anomaly, that's not how it works.
Or do you have anything to back up your position?

A correction would alter the inital synthesis. And this would trigger another reaction
I never said dat an anomaly must show up, but it has a high probability. Am only considering wen that unfavorable situation shows up

CatfishBilly:
You are now talking like a sci fi enthusiast.
Cloning doesn't generate psychopathic behavior. You are talking about this programming as if it's a computer where you'll write some lines of code to change things.
The cloned human is given birth to and then raised to adulthood. The rules of nature vs nurture comes to play.
If the human was cloned from a psychopath, of course, it will exhibit psychopathic behavior, if not, it won't.

Am not talking of psycopath here am talking of anomalies. U are talking as if d person cloned wont be a normal human like u and i walking d streets and living his life.
Have u ever thought of wat these humans would suffer wen these anomalies start showing up. Have u thought of d discrimination.
Now wat good do u think cloning would do to human race
Now for d programming stuff, it can happen. Dnt ever rule out dat possibilty

CatfishBilly:
Abnormal genes could theoretically be removed and normal ones added in it's place
It is already being done with 3 person babies and gene therapy, why not with cloning?

And d cycle would continue. Once a chain reaction is triggered a correction would trigger another anomaly. Bro in near years to come, anomalies rising from all these alterations of nature would start showing up.

Edenoscar:
I dont think clones are fiction anymore,you need to forget about all those sci fi movies you watch because significant progress in research has been made although there are some hiccups but it's gonna happen sooner than you think.

Point of correction i dnt watch movies.
Another point of correction human cloning is never a reality and will hardly come to pass. Not because its not possible but because anything dat can alter a human genetics is a potential deadly weapon. Example is killing cancer using a nanobot programmed to distinguish between a cancerous cell and a human cell, though d technology is proven to be Effective yet it is not yet implemented because it can be d most deadly weapon on earth.
A person who can produce a specially engineered human can also programme dat human to enter into a crowd and open fire.
Stop looking at christians as enemies to science or ignorant in scientific developments.

adepeter26:
For us to be on same frequency, I won't say you're missing point(s) but I'm trying to make you understand that, human cloning attempt was made and due to reasons unknown to me (due to my restricted knowledge), it was cancelled.

Now, go back to comments of many peeps(ifene*s, ftechclas*s, catfishbill*y) on this thread, you may get an insight as to why human cloning isn't in play currently

This is my own reason why cloning wont be approved.
Wen a human is cloned, that is in line with genetic engineering. Now a human is a complex system and one feature of a complex system is "anomalies". Which can hardly be prevented in cloning. A cloned human would be welcomed into d human world with his human rights and priviledges, but wen this anomaly happens which is likely to occur in d person's 2nd generation, we will have a human who d best way to end his miserable state is by mercy killing and dis is quite extreme.
So in short am saying dat cloning will create a painful anomaly which can only be stopped by killing d specie

adepeter26:
ME? Argue with you? Fvcking no.
But I suggest you read about human cloning online before spewing trash.
As for humans been cloned, it's not gonna be a big deal, moreover, a cloned human embryo was destroyed after twelve days.

I wasn't cloned but successful attempts have been achieved in cloning other creatures. BTW, collection of people frown at human cloning and that's my main purpose of creating this thread, so we air our opinions. (pros & cons)

I know about cloning of plants and lower animals but i guess dat is not ur topic here.u were talking of human cloning and i told u its still a fiction until a successful human has been cloned. What exactly did i miss out here
I am someone dat loves to freestyle my language. I dnt really fancy using biological lexis. It doesn't make me ignorant

adepeter26:
LOL you funny o-o.

Camel cloned,.
Rat cloned
Sheep cloned

What haven't been cloned?
You need to educate yourself better on cloning

Mr know all, we are talking of human cloning here. Where u cloned? Or were u told dat a human has been successfully cloned

Religion is indeed a bondage.
Wen would some old folks grow to know dat Christianity is not a religion. So we should start debating whether it is right or not for christians to choose a day to reflect on the death and resurrection of Jesus. Na wa ooo
Op was mother's day, father's day, etc all celebrated in d bible or shud we also wait for it to be in d bible b4 celebrating it.?
I guess its ur type dat still wear oversized faded shirts and trouses all very long skirts, shoulder pads and rope hairstyles all in d name of holiness.
RUBBISH

Edenoscar:
what do you mean they are not humans?

Until otherwise proven. They are not humans they are just ideas Human cloning is still in d fiction State so simply.

Its 12am to 6pm.
If it was 6am-6pm den its not a fast because d purpose for which the fasting is done which is to suppress ur flesh is defeated

jmichlins:
lols. Is it because they didn't come from your grandparents Adam and eve. What do you have to say about artificial insemination

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Sorry to disappoint u. I dnt attach religion to everything.
Cloning wont produce humans. Artificial insemination is a different case

adepeter26:
Cloning doesn't mean making robots. Robots are programmed beings while Cloning entails making identical copies of living things, cells using genetics

Pardon me for my choice of words. But i classify dem under robots because they cant be classified as humans.

Human cloning is not illegal as long as d purpose is not to impersonate any human.
But its not necessary because the earth already has enof human workforce. So it would be selfishness to give d job a human to a robot

If it is in d north. Pls allow d guy or better still find another Muslim and secretly ask him to help u tell d guy to stop using ur space
But if it is in the south
Bro where two or more hot tempered persons must gather, heads must be broken. Ie he shud call his friends and just tell d guy only once, if he refuses, bro make use of hammer, nail, cutlass, wire, rope anything u can find. Those guys think we are weaklings

annunaki2:
You and your fellow prosperity gospel pimps are the ones duping millions of believers including some of my family members.

Is dat why ur life is frustrated like this? I guess u aren't even from a Christian home and for a gospel love-vendor to dupe a babalawo like ur father and grand father, it would take a miracle though. Anyway am tempted to say foolishness runs thru ur blood line though.
Keep wailing on tithe, dnt go and locate ur destiny

annunaki2:
Dunce, so why are you telling me to quote scripture? Useless fraudster.

I guess i duped ur entire generation and lineage including ur great great grannies in frustration. Frustrated puppy.