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annunaki2:
I was the one that challenged you to quote scriptures to butress your fraudulent claims and uptil now you failed to do so yet you are shameless enough to ask me to quote scriptures without even stating what you want me to quote scripture to prove. I can assure you that my position is 100% biblical and if you state your specific query on my submissions, I will back it up with scripture. Meanwhile I am still waiting for you to provide scripture that instructs or even remotely suggests we should tithe of our monetary income.

U re getting a little dumb now
I said it before am not here for tithe or no tithe bla bla bla. Am not here to argue anything on tithe. ARE U BLIND? i have said dis over 5 times. Did u see advice anyone here to pay tithe? I said and i still stand by my words, who ever is spending his writing tithe or no tithe is wasting his time because it wont change anything. What type of dummy are u sef?
Again AM NOT INTERESTED IN ARGUING TITHE OR NO TITHE. Pls get dat into ur skull. Rubbish

seunmsg:
Can't wait for cossy to release her account details and shame the pastor that locked up Kemi Olunloyo. All our rotten pastors that enjoy eating young girls jollof rice while still forming saints must be exposed. Ride on Cossy, the official love-vendor of Naija pastors.

Keep waiting for cossy ur role model.
See who u are waiting for. Someone who doesn't know d meaning of decency. Ur case is becoming hopeless. She will still Release it and d next sunday the congregation will increase rapidly. Ask otobo how far. because events must play out d way Jesus said it THE GATES OF HELL(KEMI, COSSY, OTOBO, EL RUFAI, BLACKMAILERS) shall not prevail against it

annunaki2:
Evidently you have no solid scripture to back up your fraudulent doctrine. This is nairaland and not your church were your members just accept the thrash you preach to them without questions. I know many of you prosperity gospel pimps are skilled in the art of twisting scripture for the sake of filthy lucre but you can only get away with it with your mumu followers, here on NL, every fraudulent doctrine you utter will be challenged and exposed.

And yet u havnt even quoted one scripture. U re just blabbing upandan. Am not a pastor not even a leader in any church but a word addict. Am still waiting for u to come up with one single scripture and u cant.
My first comment here was clear dat am not here to argue tithe or no tithe bla bla bla am here to advice op to invest his time into better articles dat will win souls for Christ. All ur attempts to drag me into dat argument failed dats why ur are embittered. All ur blabbings sine yesterday u havnt still come up wit one single scripture. U shud be ashamed to call urself a Christian datz if u re one

pirees:
the point is cain and abel are not the only children of adam and eve

Yes reference Gen 5:3

She preached d same message her husband taught her so its nothing new. Or shuldnt we be cautious of fake prophet? Or u want people to start thinking she was referring to Pst Chris. Take ur time OP

pirees:
there is this atheist that asked me this question and I don't know how to reply or what really happened and I will be happy if you can shed light on it
He said according to the bible God created adam and eve and they gave birthday to cain and abel alone cain killed abel
The question is did God create another set of humans apart from adam and eve or did they give birth to more children if not how did we multiply

Now people make dis mistake of thinking dat d bible follows a chronological order meanwhile it doesn't. Dat is why u think events in Gen 4:3-26 occured before Gen 5:4
Cain and Abel were first and second but they weren't d only children of Adam. Adam bore sons and daughters and cain married his own sister.
Now d way Gen 4:2-end was written makes it look like it only cain and Abel. Read gen 4:3 it says "in d process of time" in between this duration Adam gave birth to sons and daughters
If u understand every part of d bible wen u read it den there will be need for theological schools

annunaki2:
You are the one who is obviously a fake christian, since when did the pursuit of material wealth become a criteria for being a christian Is that what Jesus came to die for You must be a victim or perpetrator off the pentecostal gospel scam.


Kindly quote scriptures to back the lies you just spewed here.

U re a confused fellow i was only correcting u for saying dat u know many rich people who dnt pay tithe and now u are blabbing material wealth bla bla bla.
I wont feed u scriptures like a kid on wat is already clear in d bible.
Go and read all d parables of Jesus and dis time around read about d fig tree dat refuses to bear fruit and the two sentences befor his words "and whatsoever ye shall ask in my name i will do it"
Christian by name

ojuu4u:
d fact remains that God is partial/political, is it that make him not to be God? Capital NO, God is still God. you people should stop bending Bible necessarily just to defend God, my God doesn't need anybody to defend him, you people make Christianity complex for human kind to accept , when u confused urself , how will u convince others,

U called God political and partial? My dear i feel Sorry for u. Keep questioning God ok. If u havnt seen spiritual destruction before u wont know d importance of briddling ur tongue. Just allow d devil be using u anyhow. Or maybe u havnt seen where it is in d bible dat TO BE CARNALLY MINDED IS DEATH. D more i quote u d more i push u towards allowing d devil spew Rubbish from ur mouth. So off i leave ur mention

pirees:
bro pls respond, I am a christian pls I have other few questions to ask

Ask d question again and spell dat name well

pirees:
then if he had (jesus) had known right from time why did he let judas be one of his deciple

I only respond to christians and ur spelling of the name of my God makes me think u are not one.
So get behind me satan

hotspec:
Show me where Jesus accused Judas of theft. Besides, how does my brain work? N*t w*t born-again christian- was that how u were told by ur pastor to win soul. Ure worse than Judas

I follow after Jesus. In his voice WOE UNTO U SONS OF THE DEVIL. go and ask him if dat was how he won souls

hopefulLandlord:
so god does not know what I'll eat for dinner? how is he omniscient then?

U have an option to eat dinner or not. If u eat dinner ok or maybe it will purge u. If u dnt eat dinner he knows wat will happen.
If u eat it at home he knows wat will happen if u eat outside he knows wat effect it will have on ur married life etc
I said it earlier i hate responding to big bangies or chimpanzee evolutes and dis will be my final response to u because i dnt argue with d devil

hotspec:
Ur points contradict one another.
If u blv in divine grace and destiny as u claimed, wht then did u say Judas wasnt destined to betray Jesus. Why cant d destined person carry out d assignment. Read ur Bible where Jesus told Peter that he will deny him 3 times, and that Judas will betray him by taking d morsel from Him. Judas fulfilled a mission for Christ, d only difference was that it has been written that woe unto him that carried out that mission, and it was too late for him to seek forgiveness unlike Peter that seek genuine forgiveness almost immediately. No record of Judas stealing from d treasury in d Bible.

David was also a disobedient servant and more immoralities were recorded against him than Saul. Saul wasnt a proud man. He and David had an humble beginning, only dt Kings generally had to live above par.
The major thing is that just as d Bible says, some people are ordained for grace by God, only that is needed is for u to make urself available and position urslf where u will abide still. Alternatively, u pray.urself into d grace. Examples are Jabez and Hannah.

Judas was not destined to betray Jesus. By stealing from d treasury he opened himself to d devil. Before Jesus ever prophesied anything about Judas john 12:6 had already taken place. Judas was possessed for him not to be afraid to steal from d purse of Christ himself who reads d minds of people.
Someone has to do all d dirty sinful jobs on earth but until u open urself to d devil, he cant use u

hotspec:
Was there any biblical record dt Judas stole from d treasury? Check again

No Judas was called a thief in John 12:6 because he stole nothing. Can u see how ur brain works?

TheVictorious:
You are missing the most important thing which is to believe and you are celebrating works.

Grace isn't merited bro. That's why its grace. But Jesus has died and salvation has been perfected for[b] all[/b] who believe; and this is the very nature of God (all through - "He didn't change"!) that was revealed in Christ. So God is not partial.

Grace is not merited is a fallacy itself. because grace is already defined as an unmerited favor.
God chooses to favor whom he will but bro dat choice most times is not spontaneous it is determined or activated or influenced by something.
Do u think God just said David is a man after my own heart without David pleasing God? Even though David's righteous acts wont be enof to get dat commendation, that is where grace comes into play.

oruma19:
majority of religious people did not choose their religion, Lene correct that impression first. Secondly, u said u scream when u read some tinz in the Pentateuch, shouldn't that be the reason u should ask questions? God gave us head so we can can use it..leave all this plenty tok of u can't question God. Even God said," come let us reason togeda" what do u tink God is saying? Abraham questioned God, Job did, many other people including David. Y won't we ask God question when we don't understand?

Christianity is not by birth, it is by choice. U can be born by a pastor but until u open ur mouth and confess Jesus u are not a Christian.
Abraham didn't question God's actions or purpose he only debated with God in a submissive way for God to consider.
There is a difference between pls Bob dnt do this it will cause pains to others and Bob why did u do this? It is wickedness.
Both can be used in human to human relationships but d second instance is an insult to God

Better still God pls reveal unto me d reason for ur actions that i may know u more

Minemrys:
if by big bangie you mean me being an atheist, you are wrong. Am a religious guy who believes in God. But atimes one needs to questi0n s0methings, such as the authenticity of the b0oks one uses as reference. Fr0m the religious b0oks, am made to understand that the jews were God's favored people am0ngst his other creations. They are blessed, God loves them and banned them fr0m marrying the philistines or other races God sees as d0omed. God sent the jews to war with other tribes, chased them fr0m their land making it theirs. God refered to other tribes and gentiles n0t worthy of the blessings of the jews so they are made to pick crumbs like dogs [the syrophoenician w0man and jesus]. The gospel was only meant for the jews till paul came in to stop that theory. In the bible based on s0me things in it, evidences say the yahweh hated the arabs. C0me to the other side, the muslim said, virtually the same but this time, God favored the arabs than the jews, God sees the jews as bad people and asked the arabs to avoid them. Where am i getting at? Fr0m the crumbs gathered fr0m these b0oks, all i see presented of God are human natures. Racism, imperialism, war m0ngering etc which c0ntradicts fr0m the preachings that God is good, of good and all things good but then the scriptures divert. They d0n't add up unless the b0oks are n0t what they say they are. They are written by people inspired by God yet the b0oks have been revised thousand times with the revelati0n about to be cut fr0m the others. Why are they revised in the 1st place if God inspired the authors? Unless God n0w magically has the power of making mistakes or errors. I believe there is God but n0t what men paint him as.

D only reason i will respond is because u used G and not g.
After d flood Noah and his sons obeyed God. But as time went on, the world turned into wickedness and God found Abraham (and not Israel).
Israel and Edom plus Moab were offsprings of Abraham though Moab came from lot. God instructed Israel not to touch Edom and Moab. But Israel had to destroy Moab because they struck Israel at d back.

All other cities destroyed were Idol worshipping cities and study judges very well Israel got the same punishment wen they join idol worshipping. D only difference between Israel and Others was dat Israel always come bak to God and God will save dem.
Paul didnt put an end to d gospel being preached to only Jews, Jesus already gave dat command before his ascension. Paul was only a tool in d hands of God.

Minemrys:
Thats always their excuse. They lo0k for ways or excuses to pull out when they reach a dead end.

Ok big bangie. I still have nothing to explain to d devil

oruma19:
Bros there's no record that Judas stole from the Treasury. Why una de add to the scripture? Pls show me d place in d bible.. Saul committed lesser sims than David. Paul the apostle was a brutal killer. Achan only stole gold once and he was destroyed with his entire household, what did his household do. In Judges 19 thru 20. There are very controversial stories of pples families being destroyed because someone sinned or disobeyed. Why shuld innocent pple be destroyed for a sin another man committed? It's all over the scriptures. Y shuld I suffer because my ancestors served idols? Na me serve idol?. Lts be bold to ask pertinent questions .we have right to ask cos we are creatures of God, made in His image and likeness

Wat u called boldness i call it temerity. D day u choose to be called a Christian dat is d day u choose not to ask some questions.
And pls in other not to sound foolish do a little research before u start displaying ur ignorance go to John 12:6

I have read d entire exodus, leviticus, numbers and deut. Wat u mentioned there is just a tip of those kind of things.
And i do scream sometimes wen i read so stories but as i said if God wanted me to know exactly why he did wat he did he could have written it in his word or revealed to me. Until den I WILL NEVER QUESTION HIS DECISIONS

ojuu4u:
please stop deceiving urself remember u are not charting with clowns and this is public forum, don't defend wat is not defendable, am always marvel whenever it comes to issues of religions people do proof that White is green, so many people will go to hell fire ignorantly

Yeah because if God calls a green clothe white dat is d final for me. If u want to know how God expects us to reason den go to d story of Caleb, Joshua and the other 10spies and tell me who d liars according to ur Limited brain were. Also tell me d sense in it to call a childless old man Father of many nations.
I lost my brain and personality in Christ dats why i enjoy Christianity. U dat still have ur own intact, kudos keep using ur logic

Zenlife:
"Judas was not destined to betray Jesus but someone needed to do the betrayal and Judas who had been stealing from d treasury made himself available for devil to use him."


Then this God can't be all knowing.
He's not omniscient.

God is all knowing because if u have two options in life A and B he knows where exactly A will lead u to and where exactly B will lead u. But he allows u make those choices.
The first Jesus prophesied about Judas betrayal it was already written dat he knew Judas had been stealing from him
So he knew d choice Judas made and where it would lead him to

Minemrys:
Ehen? But what about freewill then? Don't you think if man has freewill as claimed by the religious books he should be the one in c0ntrol of his destiny and n0t s0me super being? And if there's no freewill d0n't you think God is partial for destining people to be rich, g0od, evil and p0or just to test his powers and supremacy?

Sorry bro i dnt have to explain anything to a big bang product cum chimpanzee evoluted humans

annunaki2:
Firstly there are millions of non tithers all over the world that are far better off than tithers and I also know many faithful tithers that are wallowing in poverty so your claims that you benefit from tithing are at best baseless except you are a tithe collector yourself(my suspicion). That said let's even assume your claim to see results is true, does it justify twisting the word of God to arrive at a strange doctrine that stipulates monetary tithing from income? As we know the tithe God instructed in the bible was neither monetary nor based on income. Do you know it's a very grievous sin to twist the word of God? Do you know the early church never tithed? Do you know that monetary tithe from income was introduced to the church as recently as the late nineteenth century by American evangelical churches? Do you know that the tithe doctrine contradicts the gospel of Christ that is based on grace?

If you are a true christian, you will follow Christ and not man made church traditions. May God give you understanding.

I have heard u. But as i said before am not here to debate tithe or no tithe. If u dnt know its a waste of time den i re still a newbie. For me i will pay my tithe till i draw my last breathe on earth.
Ur correlation sounds too childish though, the richest men on earth are mostly unbelievers, then why do u choose to be a believer?
All i want to tell u guys is dat in heaven We will be asked of wat we did wit d gospel and how we won souls and not how we criticized upandan

An2elect2:
Noooo You have indirectly confessed that you trust in a different "jesus". All I am doing now, is calling your attention to it.

By God's grace I will open a thread about this false jesus many have blindly believed in and tag you. One of his fruits is the false tithe teaching that has spread across denominations.

Am sorry for u.
Its safer for an unbeliever to say Rubbish about Jesus dan a So called Christian because d devil already has d first one in his bag but for d second one d devil wont hesitate to deal with him mercilessly. I have counselled a lot of persons, most of dem are into d problem they are because in their perceived wisdom they didnt know where to draw d line.
I wont quote u again so as not to be d reason u re heading for ur own destruction take ur thread to other people who will be interested

An2elect2:
You can't use talent to "win souls" You can't even "win souls" Oh no!

I can tell by the way you post the "Jesus" you have believed.

I am very careful wen addressing a Christian whether his believe is same as mine or not as long as d person has confessed Jesus as their lord and Savior and accepted d Holy spirit because u may not know wen u point an accusing finger against d Holy spirit and no need to remind u wat Jesus said about it.
D day ur Christianity matures dat day u will carefully choose ur words

mike85060:
sometime ago i watched similar scenenario on television. The man said i was born blind but as the man of God was praying i started seeing and now i can see clearly, glory b to God. The usher in other to proof the miracle brough difference colours of handkerchief for him to differentiate. when he brought one out, he wil ask him which colour is this? the man wil answer, black. which colour is this? the man wil say purple. Abeg, how wil a person who was born blind? who never see colour before in his lifetime, able to know and differentiate the colours? i belief in natural healing that gradually respond to medication and not what this scammers are displaying to decieve the gulibles. that man may probably be paid. most of these paid miracle actors and actresses on television and crusade ground, u can never know where they live. they are always people u can never trace, especially the blind and cripples of many years or from birth. if u doubt me take a cripple or a blindman whom u know very wel to this scammers and see if they wil heal them, they wil tel u their faith is not strong enough.

My pastor illustrated d very same thing u said in one of his messages.
Now answer these questions
How could a person dead for 3 days rise again?
How could a donkey speak?
How could a sea be parted?
How could manna fall from above?
How could 7loaves and 5fishes feed 4000 men
I Sincerely hope u re not a Christian because if u re one u will need to be on ur knees crying to God for forgiveness because d devil might be right at ur door now. How dare u limit the power of the same God who created d senses.

annunaki2:
I am yet to see one single tither that gets results even though most of them are brainwashed to think they are getting results.

I am one. And pls wen u claim u re a Christian restrict ur vocabulary no matter wat u think ur opinions are. D use of brainwash wen referring to christians of whom Christ dwells inside of dem might be an insult to d one who lives inside of dem.
I am a tither and i know d kind of results i get by tithing. I also have people close to me dat have awesome testimonies. D biggest pastors in nigeria pay tithe to their mentors because they first believe in it b4 they preach it.
Am not here to debate if tithing is good or bad but am here to tell OP to stop wasting his time.

annunaki2:
The thought of having to part with 10% of their income for life discourages a lot off would be believers from becoming Christians. And that's a fact. The painful thing is that the church is loosing millions off souls to this fraudulent tithe doctrine and that's the more reason we should expose it for the fraud it is.

It is a wasted effort. And moreover have u ever preached Christ to someone and he tells u he is afraid of tithe or are u just using ur imagination. People go to Churches dat tithe is preached so much and yet almost 80% dnt pay tithe. So why not find a better thing to do for Christ because shouting upandan will not change anything. U can NEVER EVER convince and ardent tither to stop tithing unless he stops seeing results. So stop wasting ur time, allow results to speak

annunaki2:
He doesn't have to open a church to spread the gospel or win souls for christ. Do you know that this false tithe doctrine actually discourages a lot of non believers from accepting christ?

No its exactly wat u re doing now. Always looking for one thing or the other to criticize about d church dat chases unbelievers away

annunaki2:
What is wrong with correcting false teachings making rounds in churches

Wat is wrong in opening ur church, correcting d so called false teaching and winning souls for Christ

NASTYNASOSO:
HMMMNN
YOU BETTER LOOK FOR THE CAUSE OF YOUR PRESENT STATE, NA WHO DO YOU?
YOU ARE ATTACKING THE KANO FOLKS FOR VIOLENCE AND HAILING RIVERS RIVERS PEOPLE TO BE MORE VIOLENT.
ASK YOURSELF YOUR PROBLEM.
POSSIBLY YOI ARE ARE MORE OF A VIOLENCE SPECTATOR AND THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FOOTBALL.
SEEK TREATMENT BEFORE ITS TOO LATE

See dis one. So i shud be preaching to cannibals to stop violence abi. D only language ur cannibal brothers understand is revenge. They were lucky though. U can go to hell but i repeat no one has d monopoly of violence.

mina16:
my dear it's true that Peter chopped the ears of marcus but the fact still remains that his disciples were without weapons if not Christ would have stopped them because he told them to deny their selves so how can I protect my self with weapons when I have denied myself.. thanks

So na bite peter bite d guy ear abi
Or Peter took excuse from Jesus den ran to borrow sword
Or wat happened to d scripture i gave u. Religious folks claiming they know anything
Why didnt Jesus also deny himself wen he was taken to d pinnacle to be thrown down, bros stop showing ur ignorance here