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adepeter26:
By ednut1:
From the tower of babel story it can be implied heaven is in the skies and he confused them so they wont reach there...

->> But when the white men (aka oyinbos) were inventing & building space crafts why did God not confuse them.?

->> Or is it that heaven was never in the skies or it was moved . I am not understanding.

Who can shed more light

After d big bang event, where did diverse languages originate from?
Tower of babel was being built in a quest to reach God, Go back to d bible where u got d story d reason God decided to confuse dem was not because he was afraid the building will get to heaven but rather he was courteous of d fact dat wit one language man will be able to achieve watever he wants to achieve whether good or evil

Now why are sky scrapers built

I will keep it simple here. Anything u do to ur body dat doesn't cause it to damage, or lead a brother astray is not a sin. Somebody will think dat wen God looks at u wat he sees first is ur body, dats a lie!!!! Wat he sees first is ur spirit.
Now let me ask u, wat damage does dyeing of hair cause to d body or how does it lead someone astray

Lazarus went to Abraham's bossom after death. Now nobody human went directly to heaven before d death of Jesus. That is d reason d graves of the righteous were opened wen Jesus defeated d devil in hell, it was a transportation from Abraham's bossom to heaven
If God could command Ezekiel to speak life to dry bones and life came into dem after years of being dead or a man whose corpse was dumped on d bones of Elisha rose to life, den d resurrection of Lazarus was just in line with those ones

oaroloye:
SHALOM!



IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE TAUGHT?

It happens to be a LIE.

What actually happened is THE EXACT OPPOSITE of what you were taught!

PAUL PREVENTED THE GOSPEL FROM REACHING THE GENTILES!

That is what REALLY happened.

PAUL hunted down and brought all the Jewish Christians who tried to spread YAHSHUA'S ACTUAL TEACHINGS, AS HE COMMANDED, back to JERUSALEM to DIE in RIGGED TRIALS, unless they swore to never preach Yahshua's Teachings any more.

That was the DEAL the Original Disciples accepted, that allowed them to operate out of Jerusalem for DECADES, when their LORD, who REFUSED to COMPROMISE THE GOSPEL was KILLED in his FIRST WEEK!

(Or how do you THINK that that happened?)



Is THAT what they used on you?

Were THEY there, when Paul was allegedly called by Yahshua?

Of course not!

But that has NOTHING to do with it!

YAHSHUA LAID DOWN THE RULE BY WHICH HE MANIFESTS TO PEOPLE.

Namely, that person MUST BE A KEEPER OF HIS COMMANDMENTS.

. JOHN 14:21-27. (Sorry, but the browser I am using here messes up my pastings.)

This RUBBISHES all the "VISIONS OF JESUS," people have said that they have seen, and all of the "VOICE OF JESUS" people say that they heard- WHO DID NOT LOVE JESUS NOR KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS before or after their so-called MANIFESTATION OF YAHSHUA.

You and I can go appear to, talk to, and interact with whoever we want.

Before his Crucifixion, so could YAHSHUA.

He appeared to, talked to, and interacted with Righteous people and Sinners alike.

After his Resurrection, however, he COULD ONLY manifest to THOSE WHO OBEYED HIS COMMANDMENTS.

Hiis Disciples LOST THAT RIGHT, after they BROKE HIS COMMANDMENTS, and got ANANIAS AND SAPPHIRA killed.

. ACTS 5:1-11.
. MATTHEW 6:1-4.

If Yahshua could manifest to just anyone- even those who HATED him, he should have just walked out into the street in Jerusalem, and the whole CITY would have converted immediately.

If Yahshua could manifest to just anyone, he would have manifested to EMPEROR NERO, and his NINE SUCCESSORS, who persecuted the Church, killing the Christians OUTSIDE OF PAUL'S JURISDICTION- which was his PLAN the whole time.

PAUL DELIBERATELY TOLD NERO THAT ONE WAY TO MAKE YAHSHUA MANIFEST TO HIM WAS TO KILL AS MANY CHRISTIANS AS HE COULD: BECAUSE IT HAD WORKED FOR HIM!

. MATTHEW 7:1-6.

But that was a LIE: it had NOT worked for HIM- nor did it work for the TWO THOUSAND YEARS of UNBELIEVERS who said:

"GOD? JESUS? IF YOU ARE REAL, MANIFEST TO ME NOW, AND I WON'T KILL THESE CHRISTIANS!"

You see how PAUL PLANNED to KILL CHRISTIANS, even after he had DIED.

. JUDGES 16:30.

U re a confused fellow if u believe d bible and u dnt believe d entirety of d contents den u are confused. U quote acts bla bla bla and still telling me dat luke peter and d other apostles were all deceived by paul. First of all are u even a Christian?

Freethought:
I suppose yu don't knwd meaning of get rich quick

There is no grammar like get rich quick. It was coined by lazy persons who dnt know how to get out poverty. It can take a minute of unexpected event for someone to get rich, wen u want to talk about illegal means of income its wrong to generalize it as get rich quick

People can be foolishly inane sometimes. U dat is pointing fingers doesnt know dat u couldnt have heard of Christianity if not for Paul who went all out to bring it to d gentiles.
And wait, where u there when Jesus called him? I wonder why people can be so foolish

Freethought:
Mayb you shld give me a name of someone who has or is still working a job of 10k per hour

Bros a footballer earns more dan dat.
Nairabet or naijabet is not a sin but it is not decent. It rules ur emotion and if u re not careful it can make ur faith in God to stagger. So d aftermath effect of betting can be a sin but betting on its own is not a sin

frank317:
Shame on you... You believe in an imaginary being... We have been here all day, helping you come out if your delusion and the next thing you call me is frustrated.

I have read your interactions with other athesits and they have been consistently called you mumu and dumb, but you didn't react (maybe that's what u believe u are)

Did i insult you in my post? Yet you quickly call me frustrated and drunk? Show me where i called you names... What warrants you to call me a rascal... Or did just actually see that i made nonsense of your God and your belief?

Everything u believe in this world is imaginary or do u know wat d air looks like? Have u also seen a man's spirit b4?
Dumb, mumu and dummy are not irresponsible words to me but i dnt have any business with someone who cant control d use of d F word even though they might be insults everyone is entitled to his opinion.
I didn't call u frustrated neither did i call u a drunkard. I used a simile there and not a metaphor

frank317:
Ya, your religion said a lot of meaningless things about God. It analyzed your God like a married bachelor.

He show mercy to whom he choses yet he gave those he decides not to show mercy to that ability to feel hurt and pain because of his purposeful lack of attention.

Who even worships such a confused being?


If the origin of life is beyond human imagination, then that's just what it is...

If you bring in a God to be the creator how does this answer the question of the origin of life? And if you are asked about this God, you will still say he is beyond human imagination?

Accept it, bringing God or not does not explain the origin of life.


This is how u guys make nonsense of your God after calling him omini everything, you still bring him to human level by comparing him with us.

If i have a girl friend, am i her creator? Because she is my girlfriend does it make me her creator? Are we not no the same level trying to manipulate ourselves?
How can God create us and want us to treat him like we would treat our girlfriends?
Biko if your God is an ordinary humans pls tell us. Tell him to grow up, it's time he starts acting like a God he is supposed to be, not begging for love like someone with low self-esteem.



The bigger question is ,how would we love it when we don't fuckinggg know what, where and who he is. How can we love a so called almighty creator who only choses to live in our imagination?

I dnt think i have any business wit a rascal who doesnt know how to choose at least decent words wen expressing himself
U sound like a drunkard or rather a tout. And if u re frustrated find wat is frustrating ur life and deal wit it.

enshy:
Your assertion here is worse than that of acidosis..
You spit rage and vengeance!
Why not leave the rest for God.

Wat do u know about God and his vengeance?
U can cry me a river WHO CARES?
And before spitting out Rubbish Paul commanded BarJesus to go blind. Afterall he could have left him for God's vengeance too.

Seun:
Yes, I stopped assuming that God exists and the bible is his book. I decided to base my beliefs on evidence and logic. That made me an atheist.


Things that are right tend to be logical. Things that are wrong tend to be illogical. Is it likely that your religion is the only exception to this rule?

Nothing spiritual is logical. Think about creation and beginning of d world. Is there anything logical about it? Anyway bro its well.

alBHAGDADI:
Your response shows you didn't read my post where I said that he's suppose to save her as a Christian Should, not have her arrested. Christ had the ability to destroy his killers, but he didn't. If pastor Ibiyeomie calls himself a follower of Christ, he ought to have emulated that.
Do you know that amount of souls that were won and are still being won an a result of Christ not retaliating against his persecutors?

Do u think Jesus wanted Judas to perish? If yes is Judas to be blamed for wat he did?
If no den why didnt Jesus convert J.

My brother i will comment on ur post
Pastor Ibiyeome did nothing wrong.
Reason being dat: kemi is not a Christian and d bible only says dnt take ur brother to court. Dat means it will be wrong for pst David to do dat if d lady was a Christian.
Remember wat is happening to apostle Suleiman do u know how many souls dat must have been lost because of dat. If Kemi succeeds in diverting d pastor's attention into defending himself even though he did nothing do u know how d matter will excavate and how many souls will be lost?
Sometimes we need to shut d devil's vessel

Seun:
The same can be said about most bad people in the real world. Hitler was 'merciful' to Germans and dogs but he was a total devil to the Jews. Most drug lords are protective and loving to their children but will destroy strangers who stand in their way. Why is God not better than them?


Yes, I would rather marry a robot than marry a woman who must be threatened with an eternity of being burnt alive to convince her to love me.

I checked on u bro. U were born into a Christian home. Something must have made u an atheist. I mean something strong, would u mind sharing wat that thing is at least so that others can learn.
We can argue from now till eternity i cant logically defeat u because Christianity is nothing logical at all. But trust me one day something will happen (not praying for something bad) and just like saul who was a persecutor of Christianity became d fore runner of Christianity, u will see light and u will be back.
Wen i call d names of people like u in prayer, its not because of anything but dat d fact dat ur influence will be very important for d propagation of d gospel

Am a full blooded Christian and am not comfortable with these things sha. Its not good disturbing people's in d morning but for dat of buses and classes am not really against it as long as it is not a test or an exam period

GeneralTee:
You and your Bishop are not Christians.

Watever makes u feel happy though inside of u is full of misery.
U rejoiced over apostle Suleiman's defamation, come and rejoice over kemi let me see u.

According to that pastor, Bishop Oyedepo is his mentor, Bishop came from a cool and calm background but before he became a pastor he was rugged and he doesn't take defamations. U can insult pst Chris, bishop Oyedepo, Proph TB Joshua etc and walk free but dnt try it near him, he will deal with u physically not even spiritually. Dat shame of a woman shud have known her boundaries. Let her stay there small, those calling d pastor all sorts of names are d same people happy wit wat is happening to apostle Suleiman. Assuming Otobo was in prison today all these Rubbish could not have happened. Why dnt they try these Rubbish on imams and see if they would go to d grave with their head intact or is it because they take christians as weaklings

Seun:
Religion says that God is loving, kind, just, merciful, etc. Elementary logic shows that this can't be true. Religion says that the universe was created in 7 days. Science shows that this is comically inaccurate. Why should we believe this same source when it says that God exists?


If God existed, and wanted us to obey him, he would have made us naturally eager to obey him, like robots and German Shepherd Dogs. He would also have made his existence more easy to verify. A God who wanted universal obedience would not pretend that he does not exist.

My religion says that God is both merciful and also a consuming fire. It also says dat God shows mercy to whom he chooses to show mercy to.
Science can never ever prove d origin of life itself because it is beyond human imagination, meaning dat its d work of a supernatural being. Remember d only thing dat supersedes all physical laws is life and that flaws the big bang theory because even if life emanated from an inanimate substance then it must also be counted as a miracle.
On our relationship with God, let me ask u wud u want to marry someone who is programmed to love u even without her having any other choice or wud u want someone whom even though she has a million choices but still choose to love u.

Christianity is built on Love for God and God commands total love. How wud we call it love wen we are just programmed to obey without a choice?

coolgee26:
Will you STFU and stop claiming to be a MEDICAL NANOTECHNOLOGIST.?

@boldened text, who told you the entire trait of the individual would be altered?

Now, read about SILENT MUTATION. It's one among the three consequences of POINT MUTATION....

Its only when MISSENSE & lethally, NONSENSE MUTATION occurs that the entire trait is changed.

D emboldened word used a statistic terminology "should" and not "would" meaning dat its not entirely altered by d process wen it shud have been. Learn how to read meticulously before diving into argument

adepeter26:
First, na otondo you be. Akamu
Secondly, a jack of all trade is a master of none.

You have area of specialization? Aswear, if i know where you work, I'd draft a letter to withdraw you from ya place of work. You are too dull to be employed.

Micro what did you just say? Stop lying Mr man cos if you knew microbiology, you wouldn't have been asking if science can successfully transfer genes via Conjugation, transformation and transduction

Actually it did help in displaying your level of OTONDO online.

Stop abusing science and saying sh!ts you know nothing about.

Stop displaying ya worthless pride. You couldn't even finish MEDICAL MACRO-technology.
You are here shouting nanotechnology.
Sharrap my Friend.

See mumu oo.

Thank you for signing your foolishness on this thread.
Enjoy ya imaginary nanotech class

I have a classified publication on medical nanotechnology. And it wont be of any benefit to locals like u. We aren't mates bro. Just to let u know. Lest forget in nigeria its useless to enter classes dat are not ur field but things are different here. Its mandatory. So next time i catch u. U wont see a mouth to talk

adepeter26:
So now it's behavior again not gene, dna, transfusion, tempérament ? You are confused

I Ve visited the link, it in no what correlate to the trash you Ve been spewing since

Otondo

Anytime you (and not we) see a similar post, don't display your stupidity and moronic ideas like you did on this thread

All am tryin to let you know is that, you Ve sounded 200% dumb than I earlier thought.
Supernaturals don't exist, just that the naturals have not been understood

Next time I see you you online trying to claim intelligent, i will redirect them to this thread. So they would all see how level of intelligence.

Lol. Physics you say?
You aint even science let alone bring facts about physics. NA my SS1 brother go debunk all your trash in physics and not me

For as long its science, then I won't even engage in arguments with you. I only wanted to bring out the dullness in you totally.

Buahahahahahahahahaha.....

Fvxk off... You dullard

I wont exchange nasty words here. I have left d practice terrain into a pure research terrain. U deal on a micro plane and u re shouting there is no God. I wonder wat u will feel like wen u enter d nano terrain. And we can continue d argument for a hundred years and u wont still answer my question but rather it will be more vulgarity. A human's choice of words depends on his level of exposure so am not surprised. Anyway a little dig showed u were d person who ran away from my other question on reflexes dat makes a child suck breast and why biology defies d second law of thermo. So bro till next time. U can keep d vulgarity for politics section because i dnt use those words on religious sections

adepeter26:
Buhahahahahahaha........
So na Art student you be sefffff....

No wonder. Equating philosophy to Science........

I done see the genesis of all your confusion.....

Aswear it's not good to be an art student o-o....

My children will never study non-science course

I am vast bro. And we have not even gotten close on my specialization. In a quest for knowledge i do enter philosophy and microbiology classes and dat helped a lot. because d origin of science came from philosophy and d origin of dna stems from biochemistry. Even though i will welcome u into medical nanotechnology. But wen we enter there u wont find urself at all. As i said before am outta here

adepeter26:
So all this while you claimed to know, Asha nA empty you be
What is that something

Even type 4 alpha thalassemia (hydrops fetalis) is a form of abnormal hemoglobin and involves genes but cant be corrected. So what's your point exactly

What is that something OOO Pls.

You are confused brother.

I mention above that you are confused ABI? Now what do you want them to re-arrange?

Goshhhhh

www.humanillnesses.com/Behavioral-Health-Fe-Mu/Genetics-and-Behavior.html
Hope it will help u a lot.
I dnt exceed a day on a post. So next time we see a similar post. We can continue. All i am trying to let u know is dat there are somethings dat cannot be touched belongs it was designed by a supernatural being. But next u time u jam me on a similar argument keep a physicist close because it wont be dna dis time.
Outta here. Genetics is not my field anyway.

adepeter26:
Kaiiiii..... I wont lie to you, i can see you are now confused cos you're words are becoming incoherent

Dis is where we can involve a mathematician because permutation and combination does a lot. If dna are numbered 1-500 and u change d position of strand 1 to 2 and vice versa. D entire trait of dat individual should be altered. Now answer my question

adepeter26:
Lol. So you're pained ABI

If only you attended pathology class. You would understand why a resected LIVER grows back (compensatory hyperplasia)

CatfishBilly will educate you on this aspect. Better still read his posts

I now know the etiology of your illness

Otondo

Kai Kai Kai.............

Ọmọ, your parents will think them done born pikin ABI?
Kaiii

Na your parents i sorry for at this junction if you could ask the boldened text.

Which school of genetics or molecular biology ever told you that "TEMPERAMENT IS A GENETIC THING"

Which school ever told you that temperament has amino acid sequence?

Temperament is just an individual habit and not a genetical.....

Otondo. Go and rest now

I was opportuned to be in an advanced philosophy class and we learnt dat unless a hypothesis has pass through d experiment stage and can be reproduced without being challenged it cannot become a law. Whether temperament is a function of gene or culture or hereditry is still on d table of experiment and its not yet a law because there are contrasting facts about it. So no one can challenge me for choosing any side i want to stand with.
Now remove temperament there and put traits

adepeter26:
You aint just deficient in SENSE, But now, you lack sense.

Correct. What are the abnormal genes? On which chromosome? Which loci?

What are genes.... What are the compositions of a genetic makeup? I want you to catch yourself and see how dumb, useless and foolish you are.
Your parents have wasted their money on nothing thinking they sent you to school.

So you don't even know what DNAs are?

No wonder........

Ok i erred here genes are made of dnas but wen u study wat d fact dat every human has d same dna and genes but wat makes us different is d combination patttern of d 1.4million dnas. And remember sickle cell is a function of something dat is abnormal and can be corrected. But it doesn't involve rearrangement of d combination pattern. Now if d combination can be rearranged den a simple rearrangement can make u have d same gene with someone in china.
Now my question is wen wud scientists start rearranging these dna patterns?

adepeter26:
Mr man, the person you quoted is a doctor as well. He's only looking at your foolishness online.

So you expect a doctor to be telling his patient that, "see o-o, you beta globin has been altered at position7". therefore you Ve Hemoglobinopathy bla bla bla?

Instead, we tell the old woman that, "mummy, you are having a complicated issue that couod be managed and treated. Well the best management will be by TRANSFUSING you blood at intervals".
But if her relatives have the money, we call on them and advice them to go for "splenectomy" or better still "MARROW TRANSPLANT".



Use your sense naw.

If u re a doctor and u still say there is no God den u are still at the junior level bro.
How many times have u diagnosed a very sick patient and found abnormal with d person and yet d person is dying. Have u ever found d woman whose womb was removed come back to ur hospital for ante natal?
How many persons have u experienced their dying moments?
My dear a doctor who says their is no God needs to be checked.
Back to my dna stuff, wen will we be able to change d behavioural pattern of a person by mutating his dna. In a layman's language. Obi's father is hot tempered and obi is hot tempered how can we mutate d dna of obi to make him a benign person?

adepeter26:
No, it's as a result of one's foolishness.
Do you know the molecular basis of SICKLE CELL? If you knew, you won't be asking such a question.

I think you have no idea of what GENETICS is all about....

But i will make you look so specifically stupid online among other Theists online

Infact, science has gone beyond that. Science have now successfully transformed a man to become woman.
They synthesized all the hormones for female traits and transfer it to the man.......

So, your nxt dumb question

Wen dat man get pregnant u let me know.
Meanwhile sickle cell occurs wen a person inherits two abnormal copies of d haemoglobin gene, one from each parent. I am talking of dna here. And better still study wat d function of d dna is

CatfishBilly:
I give up. If you know nothing about genetics don't come here and talk.
It's okay to be ignorant on some topics, it's not a crime, shoving half baked knowledge down people's throat, that is a crime.
You don't know genetics, accept it and move on. Heaven won't fall. Stop posting nonsense here.

U know wen people like come to show their talents in copy and paste we only tell dem, pls explain to dis old woman in a way she will understand wat sickness she is suffering from. And dat is d end of d road for many people. Am used to all those grammatical gabbages but wen i want to frustrate all ur copy and paste i go very simple. So bro u re frustrated now.
Next atheist can take over pls. Adepeter26 are u still ready?

adepeter26:
Am gonna troop in now..... You are sounding more dumber Mr man....

Now have you heard of Bone marrow transplant in individuals with marrow anomalies such as Sickle cell??

If you know where the Missense mutation occur (at position 6 of the beta globin chain where valine is substituted for glutamine) in the base sequence, then, your answer is right in front of you....

When marrow transplant is done, what happens? Continue from there....

Science is sweet zionmade

Science is very sweet and for ur info science is not d opposite of theism dats why we have metaphysics.
On d bone marrow transfer i agree with u but wat has it got to do dna mutation? Is sickle cell anaemia a result of one's dna. I am being specific, wen will science make okon to have d behavioural pattern of tunde by mutation of okon's dna or wen are we going to start seeing anomalies in humans as a result of Dna mutation?

ipobbigot7:
That Fulani man dey craze!

Why is he including the Yorubas?

Right from all parts of Nigeria to South Africa, India, Indonesia, Malaysia, Torkey, Italy, Germany, even Ghana and other parts of the world the Igbos are the ones embarrassing Nigerians with their criminal activities.

Dat is wat we call international embarrassment and yet no country sees us as threats. But ur tribe is into local cutting and bagging of head, raping of underage and all d gruesome savaging things u can ever think. Wole wole wole celle oshodi coconut bustop professionals.

coolgee26:
I will take my time cos this would be my last response to you concerning the dumb questions you are asking.
I Ve stated it above. If you wanna see where synthesized DNA have been altered (mutated), i advice you Teleport yourself to advance countries that carry our Molecular biology experiments.

Your word have never been simple because they are trash and senseless.

If am to get you right, do you mean to say, "WHEN WILL SCIENCE change the double HELICAL STRUCTURE OF DNA to triple helix and more?
If so, then I Ve no discussion with you because Google is there.
Sharrap. You don't know the building blocks of DNA cos if you knew, you won't be asking nursery one social studies questions, callin it science.

When the first tissue transplant was done, did you think science was accurate as compared to now.?
Now, science is a gradual something.

What exactly is/are your question(s)? Is it mutation or transplant or what?
I told you, science have altered genes and r3synthesized genes in the lab

Keep quiet, you are asking dumb and stupid questions because you even know the best choice of words in science.

No, because don't don't have an idea of what am telling you. So, Pls, visit advanced countries and stop asking Nigerian questions based on the laboratories we have.

I Ve answered your questions in simple scientific, medical and biochemical terms

Every one here in his right state of mind would give me credit cos it's the best I could break it down to.
Moreover, this is nairaland.com not quora.com, sciencediscoveries.com or online science tutorial class/forum etc. They both serve different purposes.

If anyone needs integral understanding of what am talkin about, then he/she should get a comprehensive biochemistry, pathology textbook.
Then supplement with Google.

Mr,,,, am done with you.......

CatfishBilly,,, i think this one is a lost shepherd of Yahweh and even Science.

Wen am done confusing u and wen u re done running around like a mad dog den u just shut up.
Or if u re still interested in making a travesty of ur brain den in simple terms, wen will akpan and simbi's dna be combined to produce a dna dat can override d dna of okon. Or rather wen will d a synthesized dna from prof alabi's lab be injected into okon's blood to override okon's dna so dat okon's blood can be genetically mutated