₦airaland Forum

Kill then all

membranus:
Can you recite the first stanza of our National Anthem offhand without missing the wordings, not to talk of the second stanza?

It is always easy to critize when you are not facing the same situation.

Number one: yes I can. Infact due to the nature of most meetings I attend, opening prayers is either the first or second stanza

Number two: I am not vying for any political position.
Let me ask you, if you are to go for an interview, won't you at least know the mission and vision of the company?.

Chucks13:
Oga keep quiet if you can't recite the Anthrm and the Pledge and paste it here pls.

Am not vying for a political position am I? Your political god nominated people to serve a country they can't recite her anthem. And zombies will always jump into the defense. And most of these zombies are bigots with empty brains

fk001:
I'm not even an Apc supporter to start with, I have no personal affiliation to Apc my dad might be Apc but that doesn't mean I must be an APC too.

Your definition of someone with brain is tackling insecurity? Lol. I will leave you to your own beliefs.

My definition of someone with brains is in the ability to find solutions to pressing issues and critical matters that are within the range of your responsibilities. El rufai number one responsibility is safety and security of kaduna indigenes. So how well did he perform at that?

I supported LP in the last election, and also in one or two states. But you will hardly hear me defending any of their politicians even Obi. If you do well, I applaud you, if you fail I say it with my full chest. I worship no one.

Chucks13:
You are the fool here. Oya recite the Anthem and recite the Pledge and send it here?

Who cares about anthem all we want is better hands to do good job and not Davido, Burna boy, Timaya etc minister who is busy with national anthem like a musician with nothing to offer.

That was how your obi was given stupid data and calculation with idiotic statistic that he couldn't used when he was a governor than building Ipob brewery with state fund and still owned the brewery himself.

You enter an organization and tell them "who cares about their missions and visions?. And another zombie here thinks anthem is song because the wordings were enshrined into tunes.

Oya swerve while I still keep waiting for any apc supporter who is not stupid

fk001:
Your problem is the killing right? Aside from the killing you agree that El Rufai did tremendous achievements in Kaduna.

I'm not from Kaduna but Abuja to kaduna is just few hours and I have been there before El rufai became a governor and I was also their when he became a governor, even a kid of 5 years can tell the difference.

I kept on citing example of Ortom maybe you can see a reason that your blame game is lame. Ortorm didn't accomplish anything in Benue in terms of Security, infrastructures, economy and empowerment . Just throwing blames at Fulani up and down.

Now let's go back to pre APC era, how about Jona jang when he was a governor there was always a mini Civil war in Plateau it wasn't funny, till now the impact is still there. But did your people blame Jona jang or hold him accountable? Your selective narrative won't work anymore.

I'm from Borno state people always hail my governor that he is doing good, but to me El Rufai best him in and out no contest. I am seeing thing base on economy point of view and what's on ground not mediocre activities and propaganda by moving up and down to IDPs.


You can search on twitter or better still anytime Biden makes a post or kamala Haris makes a post just read the comments how some people are ass-licking them while some are against them likewise go to Trump's page or any Republican party man and see how people are used as political tools.

What happened in Capitol is also an example.

You know why politics is the easiest job, all you need is followers who will give excuses for your ineptitude. It's only politicians that are not accountable for performing the job they are given to perform. You said El rufai is a man with brains, I need statistics of how he has generated solutions to insecurity in kaduna. That is what people who have brains do

You know the problem you guys always have, "benchmarking failures" its always this governor is worse, this governor is worse. You want me to benchmark El rufai with ortom, when did you hear me say ortom has brains?
I will refuse to diffuse my attention to another governor, the subject here is El rufai

A man who has brains but no solutions to pressing issues

In USA, a lot of them are democrats today, Republicans tomorrow. They owe no party or politicians no worshipping. They attach themselves to parties based on ideology. Now as an APC supporter, what is your party's ideology?

seunmsg:
Good one from Akpabio and Opeyemi Bamidele for shutting down the idiotic and irrelevant question asked by the PDP Senator.

Nigerians want them to ask the nominees critical questions bothering on their capacity to serve and the ideas they are bringing to the Federal executive council and not to be singing an anthem that will be played publicly anytime there is a need for it.

Still waiting to see any apc supporter who is not foolish.

So a person seeking to serve the country doesn't know the anthem. They think the anthem is just a song. Because they are too stupid to realize that an anthem represents the core beliefs of a country

fk001:
Your blunt hatred towards El Rufai won't work or let me say because he is a Muslim won't work.
Keep on emphasising on the killings is just a shallow propaganda

He has already soar higher, if I were you I will just calm my nerves down cos you can't do anything about it you will just give yourself BP.

As for me and many sane Nigerians we know El rufai has brain you can't even lace his shoes when it comes to brain.

Those people you are saying they are sycophants well that's what they think is best for them, we can't be all rich and wealthy, we have people that are willing to be tools and they enjoy being it. It happens everywhere even in so-called developed countries.

If you have never travelled out to see for yourself google has made it easier for you. Political jobbers are not limited to Nigeria alone.

Lol that's the easiest way out of accountability: play the religious card
But you are yet to tell me how thousands were killed in kaduna without the so called brains finding implementable solutions.

Sane Nigerians like thousands who have lost their fathers, mothers, children, relatives in kaduna. Or you mean apc supporters.
So sanity is now equated in your own terms by worshipping and praising politicians because of the party you support.

So because I can't lace his shoes in power, I have no right to question his performance? Is that your own mentality?. So the masses have no rights to demand accountability from their leaders because according to your mentality, they can't lace his shoes?

So name a developed country where political office holders are worshipped as gods. Maybe my Google is not working fine. As for the willing tools who suffer the same fate every other person suffers, my job is to let them know they are stupid

fk001:
Watch the video again. El rufai was ready to answer but the SP stopped him from answering.

Yeah El rufai can feel like a mini God because he deserves it, the man has the brain.

So why was he stopped, that's what we are questioning.
Can you prove that he has brains? Because aside politics (which ignorant people are the willing tools), I am yet to see how intelligent he is. I mean a governor who has brains recorded thousands of deaths in his tenure? Without any solutions?.
So having brain is building roads and flyovers?flyover?.
In developed countries political office holders feel like servants not gods. It's a shame to say a common politician should feel like a god.
I don't know the kind of people you interact with everyday, but I have seen brains, and politicians are not in that class

fk001:
He did very well in Kaduna in terms of economy and infrastructure. When he was a governor insecurity was ravaging every part of the country. He even advised the FG to bombshell the terrorist hidden in the forest you can go and watch the interview on channel news.

He wasn't nominated as defence minister what's the correlation between bringing the said allegation and the ministerial post he was nominated for?

El Rufai has paid his dues he is the modern architect of kaduna state, He even gave a southern Kaduna indigene Samuel Aruwa commissioner post of Internal and external security just to have first-hand information and curtail the menace.

When you start blaming Ortom for his incompetency then I will start taking the allegation seriously.

So why is it wrong for El rufai to speak by himself? So he shouldn't be asked any questions because he is above all?

If he performed well, what's the difficulty in talking about your performance and limitations?
So we should start blaming ortom for El rufai not answering questions on his performance as a governor?.
You guys make these men feel like mini gods and I don't blame them sha

fk001:
I know you don't care much to persecute Ortom despite all the killing that happened in Benue, you rather blame Buhari than blame ortom. You know why? Because Ortom is a Christian

Benue have more life lost than kaduna, why do you exonerate Ortom and blame El rufai. Don't cover up your sh!ts by telling us that you don't care about politicians. You have never blamed ortom, we know you are a bigot

Secondly, you have never talked about the killings that are happening in Zamfara we also know the reason why. Because the victims were Muslims.


Thirdly when Yakowa was a the governor and Kafanchan Christians and other part of southern Kaduna were having their full day of killing Muslims to the extent of eating Muslim flesh, your likes didn't complain instead you try to justify it.

Now the table has turned and you are trying to get sympathy and play the victim card. We can see through your hypocrisy.

Also, ask me about my surname and I will proudly tell you

I will give you 1M if you find anywhere I ever hailed Ortom's performance. The topic is here is about El rufai not Zamfara governor. And I wasn't on NL when your so called event happened in Southern Kaduna. Even If we assume it's true
I supported Obi in the last election but I don't owe any politician or party any loyalty. I only ask for accountability from those who are paid from my taxes. Since El rufai was a governor and wants to be under payroll from taxpayers money, asking him to tell the country how he handled security is only out of place to stupid politicians worshippers

You will go for an interview and they won't ask you how you performed in your previous job?

IamtheTruth1:
Idiots like you are the reason Nigeria is in a mess. You have become so sentimental that you don’t even question the credibility of those chosen to serve you. The same people that will use your resources and tax payers money to do whatever they like. You are not bother bother if an incompetent individual is chosen.


Look at the crack head that said he finished primary school at 4yrs.

Did you see the other nitwit that has only 2credits in his school cert yet could not explain how he got into the University.


Here he have a full grown idiot, questioning the screening because they have paid their dues

With all due respect, you are a NITWIT

Now after spitting rubbish, slowly read that post you quoted, then read your reply. It will teach you the importance of paying attention to meanings

Richb44:
You have nothing to offer so let me be quick on this, ain't you bothered about your life, your father failed you are you also willing to fail your child?

Lol
Still an idiot who talks about people they don't know. That's how ur own father raised u. Nah I have nothing to offer to idiots rather than letting them know that their stupidity is OEM.

Richb44:
What about you what are you in life? Your fast to talk about his life while yours is a complete mess no single achievement smh

No am just asking that because of his passion in worshipping certain political gods. Only a fool stay far and assume that someone's life is in a mess. A class 600 idiot for that matter

Profbukky:
Ode

Ikpu

Ecos:
Are you normal Oga?

Not at all
Am still learning political lessons from those teaching us

Why the strike?
Election was this year na. So who are we fighting?
Shebi Election is all about teaching other political lessons, so what happened to the tutorials?

I just hope my people don't involve themselves in anything strike, before others pull out and they turn the strike against them

adekolaelect:
what ever you say or claim is just an opinion. Your theories is just yours alone. Even God that create us doesn't make us the same.Some are prophets,Some are leaders ,some are followers while some are slaves either you like it or not. Why are you now fuming on what God has done? Why do you allowed emotional feeling to deprive you the better way of reasoning?

Nah, they are not theories. Holding our leaders and politicians accountable is nothing emotional. We have meetings and indirect dealings with a lot of those politicians. They taught me "everyone on earth is greedy but by varying degrees"

So my theory will be right if politicians are adjudged right or wrong based on their parties on any issue. U guys are gone, far far gone. That's the mentality that makes these thieves feel on top of the world.
I am a follower, proud to follow, but must hold my leaders accountable for what they do with my tax and the resources God gave us. Nobody owns Nigeria

ozo13:
please who did he kill for God sake.u can see the reason such issues are sensitive and must be avoided as much as we can.He was even ready to speak Abt the clarification he was asked to make but most of the lawmakers elected by the citizens of the country don't see it a wise decision to allow him speak on such sensitive issues.
Its not about me loosing someone or not.I know Kaduna to an extent.infact na there my sister build her house despite the fact she and her husband are not from kaduna.
I pray and hope the current governor will be able to unite both side because I saw alot of disturbing videos before the conclusion of the last gubernatorial election and all I saw was division and serious hate from both side.
When you talking about the architect of modern FCT, Before you mention 3 names , am sure El Rufai name will be among them.Same thing in kaduna.i went there and saw things myself and hear people speak about issues too.Infact I dey some kaduna Whatsapp group to to be current Abt happenings there.I was even to marry there but it didn't later work.
Like I said earlier, I hope the current governor unite both side in equity, peace and Justice for the progress of the state the exact same way we want in other part of the country where there is serious political and religious division.
We no fit dey suffer economically and still be killing ourselves in the name of tribe, politics and religion

He was the governor of a state where people died in their hundreds without any reasonable government intervention. I am not a preacher of love, if u are given a job, do it. If u can't do it, step down.
If an engineer is expected to deliver a job in the midst of impossible constraints, if professionals can be prosecuted for their failures on the job, why can't we hold political office holders responsible for the job they are supposed to do.

Why do we resort to prayers when it gets to politicians?

maasoap:
Those who are supporting this party and that party are actually better than you because they're party to those who are looking for solution. With people like you, where is hope? Where is optimism? Country won't run on autopilot and we won't import aliens to govern us. Through trial and error and our participation, we might be lucky one day and get the right person/people for the job. Swerve!

And as long as the blind loyalty for stupid greedy wicked politicians continues, there will never be accountability. I am looking for the people that are better than me.
With people like me every politician will stand and be accountable irrespective of party affiliation and not take a bow idiots

So El rufai shouldn't be asked how he handled security in kaduna again because apc politicians are unquestionable. Now examine yourself if your brains are working at all

leanonme82:
STFU Loser. None of ur backward SE Governors including Obi achieved 5% of what Akpabio and Elrufai did in their states as governors.

Fake ass proselytizers

Tribal bigots are very stupid in my eyes. They are actually idiots to me. See you boasting of akpabio and elrufai. What us your surname again?
And wats my business about any SE governor. I don't asslick politicians, I don't care where they are from

Loser? Lol. Ok winner go and shake hands with ur political gods na. Like find where they are meeting and try to gain entrance. Bigots always reasoning like animals

ozo13:
In some sensitive issue,high level of maturity is needed.Do you expect the Senate president to allow such sensitive and divisive issues be discuss in the open.i don't think it is wise.
For example do u think it will be cool to ask peter Obi in the same situation about the audio leak of call he had with a "pastor" where he talked about "election bn a war" .Am sure the Senate president will not allow such a divisive question to be answered by peter Obi even if he is innocent of the accusation.My Observation Sha.

So they shouldn't as him how he handled security issues in kaduna, it's sensitive because your loved one was amongst those killed.
And why mention Obi? I am not a worshipper of any politician. I don't judge right or wrong on the basis of personality. For u guys as long as it's APC everything is correct
Sensitive issue indeed

Why the screening in the first place?
There was no need for it. They don't need to give any reason or explain what they intend to do as ministers. They have paid their dues by helping out in elections. Just give them their rewards and let everyone move on

The greatest idiots are the ones here who won't smell any dividends of the party to stay here day and night worshipping

BOSSkesh:
Elrufai should take a bow and go
He is already a minister
God punish anybody that wants to stand in your way

And what are you in life?

Yeah their salary is not enough

These are the people idiots in Nigeria worship. All in the name of I support this party I support this party

Very soon you will see idiots that have not fed well for the past one month coming to defend them thinking they are spiting anybody

budaatum:
We, are the Nigerians, as in all of us. And it is we who are responsible for the government we elected, including obidient me who was unable to convince enough people to elect my preferred Obi. Basically, I failed, but I am still part of the we, and should consider trying harder and starting earlier next time.

As for Niger, Nigeria should only keep quiet if it wants the military to do a coup and take over the country Nigeria. Hopefully, those of us who lived through military rule in Nigeria would consider if it's better than having the opportunity to try again every 4 years to elect a more competent ruler or be ruled in perpetuity by an unelected soldier who would likely be a dictator.

The choice is entirely ours, as are the consequences.

So we should try harder by carrying guns during elections? Because obviously those who have the guns and the weapons call the shot in Nigeria. Is that democracy?
Under democracy, people are being killed daily. The army that cannot restore peace in SE and NC should go and fight in a country where no one is being killed?.

Sometimes I wish military can take over this country for like a month, clear all the terrorists in this country whether UGM or bandits or boko haram, kidnappers etc. Then hand over the government to a civilian .

A country that is not at war yet have hundreds dying weekly from insecurity

budaatum:
Yes. That is the definition of democracy. Unless you expect it to be perfect of course. America is a democratic country, and they also have illegal deterrent to people voting in some areas, you'd find.

Democracy is run by you (we) the people, and is therefore subject to how competent or incompetent we are. If we can not organise ourselves to conduct a smooth election, that is on us, and we should continue to endeavour to run our elections better. It's still democracy, regardless, despite what you stand by.

Who are the "we"
Who were Paid trillions of taxpayers money to conduct the election?
Were "we" the ones that disenfranchised hundreds of thousands of eligible voters?
So If "we" call the shots, or "we" should be held responsible for the failure of the government, then why should there be a democratic government in the first place?

Anyway Nigeria should allow Niger deal with their issues. After all we are no role models to any nonsense democracy practiced here

budaatum:
Nigeria just had an election to choose it's leader so by all accounts, Nigeria is a democratic country.

We all must have read Things Fall Apart, and must therefore know that "if the hunter has learnt to shoot without missing the bird should learn to fly without perching" instead of giving up or claiming the hunter has become too good at shooting it when it perches.

Anyone who was prevented from "exercising their democratic rights to vote and have their votes counted" should work harder next time.

As for one region dominating the army (untrue by the way), others should encourage it's region to join the army so they are not dominated.

So those who thugs prevented from voting and those whose votes were altered at the collation centre, and those who votes were destroyed should try harder next time. That's your own definition of democracy.

I shake my head
I stand by what I said, Nigeria is not a democratic country.

budaatum:
Nigeria can not and should not remain neutral, but should not send forces to other countries because they had a coup.

These coups seem to be the works of those who dislike democracy, and Nigeria saying nothing encourages the democracy dislikers in Nigeria to attempt a coup too, which Nigeria must resist now before it crosses into our borders.

Nigeria and other democratic countries must stop doing business with coup countries, and must strongly state its dislike of the coups.

Nigeria is not a democratic country. Those that hate Nigeria are those that prevented citizens from exercising their democratic rights to vote and have their votes counted

Anyway don't be scared, an army that has a combination of hausas yorubas and igbos cannot carry out a coup. I hope those dumb idiots who thinks that one region dominating the highest ranks in armies will do them any good think again

Nigeria is at war, there are lots of insecurity issues to deal with here. Why not allow nigeriens handle their problems since their citizens are not complaining

adekolaelect:
we have only two Tribes yes Poor and the Riches . Why do poors only blame,envying and Badwiseh the Riches for no reason than allegation ? It is good for the poor to become riches but bad for the poor to wishes the Riches to become poor.

Only 2 tribes, the poor and the rich
I respect rich men who got their wealth through intelligence, hardwork and honest means
Politicians can still be rich and still not be embezzling funds meant for development
Tell me why a poor man driving on potholes, facing police molestation on highway, be happy with a politician stealing our money and flying first class
Do you know how many people have suddenly become poor because they lost their goods due to bad roads? Those who cannot continue their business due to lack of power?
You will hardly differentiate between a wealthy igboman from a wealthy yoruba or hausa. The differences become glaring amongst the masses because we don't use our brains.

Go to developed countries, you can't differentiate their politicians from ordinary citizens. But here, an idiot who has no hopes is already happy that a politician will likely become a president in the next 8years