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Fifty-Fifty:
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I think ur question has been answered smewhre up in dis thread.
The ew12 is a more recent engine that was also used in the 407 & 607. Its a 2.2l with a displacement of arnd 2200 cc while d ew10 is older and was used in 406 & 806mpv. It cld hav bn used in d 206 & 306 but i havnt seen it in one in naija. Its 2.2l and has a displacement of 1900+cc.
so that means more power with d ew12. And i think a lot more electricals.
as per d difference btw 202 & 2003? I think d 2003 comes with alloy wheel unique to it. The circumfrence of d speed clocks is if you like; chromed nd in some cases d back grnd is ilumunated appearing to have whaite like appearance. The 2003 i think also has a combined fabric&leather interior. The floor of d door frame of both models has iluminative peugeot 406 writtren.

@ eromosere

abdulkadir: So sorry about ur ayto tranny. Thats what you have to deal with 206,306 nd 406 dey all have same kind of box.
There is alikely hood that ur panel beater/painter took ur car unsolicited to be washed with high pressured water. Wch is a no-no for ur car. He did that or not ur gear box is likely to have d issues anyways. In most review dat is d problem with d al4 tranny so dey rebuild in abt a 100k kms. If u have the patience to go thru dis thread ikenna & other posters have shared a link and or discussed d issue.

Aqva:

Same with my Peugeot. I never mounted any airfreshener though. I read somewhere that the bulb may be responsible. Mine has finally faded completely and it's now totally blank. Will like to knw of a solution too.

Your multi functional display has 3 little bulbs, the brightness depends on the numbers of working bulbs out of the 3 bulbs. Go to any correct peugeot part dealer to replace the dead bulbs and if after replacement it still doesn't display properly, you have to get another multi-functionall display. It is around 4K-5k here in Abuja (Apo). Please make sure you test it, it is not enough to be displaying properly, it has to sync (ie work) with other controls and gadgets like the steering multi control, the car stereo, your CD loader etc ...
Finally make you change the lauguage to English ....lol so that you car will speak the lauguage you understand.
Please pardon my lack of technical terms, I am new to peugeot thing, I joined Lion Owner club like 3 weeks ago

we we:


Your multi functional display has 3 little bulbs, the brightness depends on the numbers of working bulbs out of the 3 bulbs. Go to any correct peugeot part dealer to replace the dead bulbs and if after replacement it still doesn't display properly, you have to get another multi-functionall display. It is around 4K-5k here in Abuja (Apo). Please make sure you test it, it is not enough to be displaying properly, it has to sync (ie work) with other controls and gadgets like the steering multi control, the car stereo, your CD loader etc ...
Finally make you change the lauguage to English ....lol so that you car will speak the lauguage you understand.
Please pardon my technical terms, I am new to peugeot thing, I joined Lion Owner club like 3 weeks ago

In addition, I gathered from Apo too last year that liquid airfreshner damages that screen. I dont know how true it is, but it wont cost us anything to place such Airfreshner far away from the screen or not mount them directly under the display screen, since the liquid tends to drop. I would do that if i had Lion with that multi function display screen.

Ikenna.

we we:


Your multi functional display has 3 little bulbs, the brightness depends on the numbers of working bulbs out of the 3 bulbs. Go to any correct peugeot part dealer to replace the dead bulbs and if after replacement it still doesn't display properly, you have to get another multi-functionall display. It is around 4K-5k here in Abuja (Apo). Please make sure you test it, it is not enough to be displaying properly, it has to sync (ie work) with other controls and gadgets like the steering multi control, the car stereo, your CD loader etc ...
Finally make you change the lauguage to English ....lol so that you car will speak the lauguage you understand.
Please pardon my technical terms, I am new to peugeot thing, I joined Lion Owner club like 3 weeks ago

To support we we, find the link below:

http://www.aussiefrogs.com/forum/showthread.php?t=88646

Ikenna.

Hello house,

My car: 2004, Peugeot 407, 1.8l petrol.

Scan result
(1.) Pedal sensor incoherence of signal 1 and 2.
(2.) Permanent fault- RCD line control.
(3.) EGR solenoid valve control open circuit or short circuit to earth.

Symptoms: car suddenly stalls, revs up to about 1500 rpms and never higher even when accelerator is fully depressed. Car goes back to normal after turning off for approx 5 mins.

I hope someone can help.

08062629890.

olashow: Hello house,

My car: 2004, Peugeot 407, 1.8l petrol.

Scan result
(1.) Pedal sensor incoherence of signal 1 and 2.
(2.) Permanent fault- RCD line control.
(3.) EGR solenoid valve control open circuit or short circuit to earth.

Symptoms: car suddenly stalls, revs up to about 1500 rpms and never higher even when accelerator is fully depressed. Car goes back to normal after turning off for approx 5 mins.

I hope someone can help.

08062629890.

no ideas. Ikenna, trac, siena, cardoctor... Dis guy needs help.
But does 407 hav a 1.8 engine. I thot 407 pulls with a minimum of ew12 wch is a 2.2

Wow!!finally I get τ̲̅ȍ comment here.well for me the 406 1.8 is the cheapest performance car τ̲̅ȍ maintain,except maybe ‎u don't have an idea about diagnosing engine faults.I service mine personally and don't wait for Į̸̸̨ƭ τ̲̅ȍ stop me on d raod τ̲̅ȍ carry out maintainance inspections.apart from d benz which I feel can rival d lion, d 406 is a master of d road. Į̸̸̨ƭ is d only car I have driven for 2yrs plus cos I find Į̸̸̨ƭ hard τ̲̅ȍ sell such a reliable car.but even when I do sell Į̸̸̨ƭ anoda lion will replace Į̸̸̨ƭ.Up lion,Up peUgeot cars.

olashow: Hello house,

My car: 2004, Peugeot 407, 1.8l petrol.

Scan result
(1.) Pedal sensor incoherence of signal 1 and 2.
(2.) Permanent fault- RCD line control.
(3.) EGR solenoid valve control open circuit or short circuit to earth.

Symptoms: car suddenly stalls, revs up to about 1500 rpms and never higher even when accelerator is fully depressed. Car goes back to normal after turning off for approx 5 mins.

I hope someone can help.

08062629890.

No idea.

Are you a member of aussiefrogs? If you are, repost this there. If you are not, register. You will get answers and solutions immediately there. 70% percent are Peugeot expert; fix their lions themselves. Find the link below:

http://www.aussiefrogs.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=12

My lion dont have these components. So I know little about them.

Ikenna.

Hello Lion owners,I'm happy 2 be member of this family. Pls I need help as regards my oil indictor light coming on when ever I switch on my a/c.Its a 504 best line.... @ Ikenna gritinz... Mouweta frm Edo state

Muoweta: Hello Lion owners,I'm happy 2 be member of this family. Pls I need help as regards my oil indictor light coming on when ever I switch on my a/c.Its a 504 best line.... @ Ikenna gritinz... Mouweta frm Edo state

You mean the oil pressure warning light? Does the car have tachometer? Whats the rpm when you switch on the AC at idle? Does the bulb lit when you are accelerating too?

Ikenna.

Thanks Ikenna. Will do.

I now have a diagbox, properly installed and running, thanks to bigx, t-die, peace777, etc. It took about 10 persons to install xp on/partition windows 8 laptop and install the diagbox. No be small thing o! Most especially, bigx & t-die, i didnt let them rest until i got the diagbox running. Thanks all.

Ikenna.

Dear All,

Pardon me for not going through all previous posts, in case this issue has been discussed in the past. I escorted my friend to his mechanic on Saturday for servicing of his car and an interesting argument started between the two most senior Ogas in the workshop.

One said it is advisable to use injector cleaner at interval when fueling and the other says he do not recommend the use of injector cleaner at all.

Dear experts and experienced in the family, INJECTOR CLEANER; to use OR not to use

Rgds,

ymb1

ymb1: Dear All,

Pardon me for not going through all previous posts, in case this issue has been discussed in the past. I escorted my friend to his mechanic on Saturday for servicing of his car and an interesting argument started between the two most senior Ogas in the workshop.

One said it is advisable to use injector cleaner at interval when fueling and the other says he do not recommend the use of injector cleaner at all.

Dear experts and experienced in the family, INJECTOR CLEANER; to use OR not to use

Rgds,

ymb1

For me, there is nothing wrong in using injector cleaner once in a while, but my concern is what you pour into your fuel tank in the name of fuel injector. Most of them do more harm than good. Thats why am of the opinion not to bother using any, if you are not sure of the quality, unless you wouldnt mind to be doing valve job every now and then, including replacing the injectors.

A good fuel from good fuel station would have fuel additive that cleanses the fuel system. Avoid buying fuel anyhow.

If your fuel injectors are not giving you issues, leave it as it is. If you get a good fuel additive/injector cleaner you can vouch for, please use it. But like i have noted, a good fuel does the job of an injector cleaner as well, even better.

Ikenna.

Thanks Ikenna d oil pressure light only comes on when d engine is idle. It goes off when u push d trotle pedal or when u move d car

Muoweta: Thanks Ikenna d oil pressure light only comes on when d engine is idle. It goes off when u push d trotle pedal or when u move d car

XN1 usually does that when the engine speed at idle is very low. If the car has tachometer, I would like to know the rpm when at idle, with A/C on & off.

I dont want to conclude it as an Oil pump failing symptom, when i do not know the engine speed at idle.

Ikenna.

Thanks Ikenna d oil pressure light only comes on when d engine is idle. It goes off when u push d trotle pedal or when u move d car

Thanku Ikenna for this thread. I live in PH and my Dad lives in Calabar, He has a pegeot 504GR whom he loves and cherish so much , but recently he was very sad as the engine of the car parked up and needed a new one ..I dnt know where i can source the engine for Him , and preferably a new body too or alternatively, i dont know if i can find an affordable good 406 Peugeot for him at a price range of about 200k..A lion that wud not give him headache?

au.hanson:
Thanku Ikenna for this thread. I live in PH and my Dad lives in Calabar, He has a pegeot 504GR whom he loves and cherish so much , but recently he was very sad as the engine of the car parked up and needed a new one ..I dnt know where i can source the engine for Him , and preferably a new body too or alternatively, i dont know if i can find an affordable good 406 Peugeot for him at a price range of about 200k..A lion that wud not give him headache?

Tokunbo XN1 engine can be found at Onitsha, including a clean full 504 body. But you may end up spending more than 200k to get those two.

The best engine to rebuild, as far as Nigeria is concerned, is XN1, including other Peugot engines. They have original standard piston & sleeve set in the market. But very expensive. But if one can afford it, you will enjoy it more than the tokunbo engine. But it also depends on the condition of crankshaft. Since its PAN production, the crankshaft will be inferior one. He may have to buy the foreign one that has drilled holes, for proper oil circulation and lubrication on the crank journals and bearings.

Rebuilding XN1 with original parts will cost nore than tokunbo engine. Am talking about 100k +. Because, i dont know the condition of the engine block, camshaft & cylinder head. All that may have to be changed. But like i said, if you rebuild an XN1 with original parts, the engine will start running as it was when the car was bought brand new. I have experienced it.

Buying an engine and replacing the body sounds like a project. Its not something you will expect your dad to go through at his age. Best thing will be to buy a clean running 504 at that price range and work towards replacing the engine with a tokunbo one, when you can afford one. If i were you, i would look for a GL for him. He will love it. But getting a GL in good condition will be very difficult, almost like impossible. But if your dad is not a stunt man, get an SR or phase II 504 for him. The GL is for those that like catching fun on the wheel. The model posseses so much power and handling for an I4.

Ikenna.

Muoweta: Thanks Ikenna d oil pressure light only comes on when d engine is idle. It goes off when u push d trotle pedal or when u move d car

You still haven't given me the answer i needed. Since you said the oil pressure warning light only comes on when A/C is switched on, i would like to know the engine speed of the car at idle when the A/C is on. Let me put in another way, how high or low does the engine sound when the A/C is running? Too low that the engine would behave it want to go off? Or does the sound remains normal when you switch on the A/C?

Am asking this question because am familiar with that engine; grew up with it and knows how it behaves. If XN1, the engine in 504 & 505 PAN production, is tuned low via carburettor, that warning light will come on after some minutes of the engine running, whether with A/C on or not, as long as you are not accelerating. You can hardly know the engine speed, since most of the models dont have tachometer, to know the rpm at idle, except TI (foreign assembled 504 with mechanical fuel injection engine). So, the mechanics would tune the engine from the carburettor by mere listening to the engine sound. But after a while, the tuning would go off, if at all it was tuned properly. Tuning XN1(A) is not a childs play. A difficult task,i tell you.

Their is another way to know how good your oil pump is on XN1 or XN1A. I believe yours is XN1A, since its phase II, unless it was modified/converted to phase II. On the cylinder head, behind cylinder 1, there is a small pipe that connects the cylinder head and engine block, around temperature switch. The pipe has bolt on each end. To know if the oil pump is failing or pumping oil well (good pressure), start the engine, leave it at idle and loose one of the bolts a little with 13 flat or ring spanner, i think. The force at which oil flows out from the bolt will determine if the oil pump is still pumping oil well, how good its doing that. It maynot be the best way of knowing the correct oil pressure, but it will tell you whether you should worry about the oil pump or not.

Ikenna.

Ikenna: thanks I got ur explantion, the car actually lacks a tachometer. As regards checking d oil pump viability I'l give that a shot. I really apprecite ur response

Thank you very much Ikenna, Please which one is phase II.. I dnt mind the 'sr' or 'phase II' , if its clean ..where do u think i can get that? , and at what price? I dnt even mind a 406 if it's affordable and clean?

Ikenna351:

Tokunbo XN1 engine can be found at Onitsha, including a clean full 504 body. But you may end up spending more than 200k to get those two.

The best engine to rebuild, as far as Nigeria is concerned, is XN1, including other Peugot engines. They have original standard piston & sleeve set in the market. But very expensive. But if one can afford it, you will enjoy it more than the tokunbo engine. But it also depends on the condition of crankshaft. Since its PAN production, the crankshaft will be inferior one. He may have to buy the foreign one that has drilled holes, for proper oil circulation and lubrication on the crank journals and bearings.

Rebuilding XN1 with original parts will cost nore than tokunbo engine. Am talking about 100k +. Because, i dont know the condition of the engine block, camshaft & cylinder head. All that may have to be changed. But like i said, if you rebuild an XN1 with original parts, the engine will start running as it was when the car was bought brand new. I have experienced it.

Buying an engine and replacing the body sounds like a project. Its not something you will expect your dad to go through at his age. Best thing will be to buy a clean running 504 at that price range and work towards replacing the engine with a tokunbo one, when you can afford one. If i were you, i would look for a GL for him. He will love it. But getting a GL in good condition will be very difficult, almost like impossible. But if your dad is not a stunt man, get an SR or phase II 504 for him. The GL is for those that like catching fun on the wheel. The model posseses so much power and handling for an I4.

Ikenna.

au.hanson:
Thank you very much Ikenna, Please which one is phase II.. I dnt mind the 'sr' or 'phase II' , if its clean ..where do u think i can get that? , and at what price? I dnt even mind a 406 if it's affordable and clean?

PAN 504 series 2 models are: best line, prestige, 2000, etc. Exactly the Muoweta type, above.

You can get a clean one in the East: Enugu, Anambra, etc.

You dont expect to get a clean Nigerian used 406 at 200k without major issues? Your budget can only fetch you a 504, but maynot get you one in good condition as well. You will need to up your budget if you really want to get him a 504 or 406 that will serve him well.

Ikenna.

Found something 2 share with fellow lion owners

Muoweta: Found something 2 share with fellow lion owners

An aggressive looking Lion!

It must definitely have a Turbo, V6 or V8 engine under that hood, considering the modification.

Mehn! Thats a sweet ride. Reminded me when I was pulling my dad's 504 GL foreign assmbly. Loved it!

Honestly, if am to buy and start a project car in future, it must be a 504 GL. A "Never Say Die" Lion!

Ikenna.

Man, i long for this ride, its more than restoration ride..i feel like getting one kind of this lion now for me and my dad

Muoweta: Found something 2 share with fellow lion owners

Seriously,guys ‎u neeD τ̲̅ȍ do away with 504/505s.even when I'm thinking 406 is out dated and trying τ̲̅ȍ get a 407! •̸№ insult meant pls but those cars belong τ̲̅ȍ d museums now.

nony30: Seriously,guys ‎u neeD τ̲̅ȍ do away with 504/505s.even when I'm thinking 406 is out dated and trying τ̲̅ȍ get a 407! •̸№ insult meant pls but those cars belong τ̲̅ȍ d museums now.

No insult meant indeed!

Last month, i sold my 605 of 1990 production and kept back my 1987 505. What does that tell you? You should have known that not everyone reasons or thinks like you; not everyone lives rest of his/her live trying to impress everyother person.

You dont have to tell the whole world that you are not a car enthusiast. Thats what you have achieved with that your post above. Because something is new makes it better, in all ramifications? Even with all the safety stuffs in newer cars, yet we have more records of deaths via road car accident now than in the '70s & '80s. The older cars even without air bags in those decades, were able to save/protect the occupants from heavy impacts, since their body were strongly designed to do that job, unlike now that newer car bodies have become plastics, where even the air bags would burst when rolling over or on a serious impact.

By the Grace of God, i will still buy more cars, even brand new ones or the plastic ones. But no one of them will ever replace my 505, as long as God still gives me the resources to keep it in good shape.

Since the topic or the thread did not state any Peugoet product that would be discussed here; since you are not comfortable seeing the figures 504, 505 or even 403 mentioned here, you can start a thread on strictly Peugeot 407, 408 or 508, since you are already ashamed of owning a 406.

Ikenna.

Issues with peogeot 406 [1998]automatic
I was informed by a mechanic that Peogeout 406 [1998 model]automatic has serious issues with its gear box and that buying 406 auto cars is not advisable.How true is this?