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Five Year Old Muslim Girl Forced To Marry by mkmyers45(m): 5:08pm On Aug 07, 2012 |
A five-year-old girl is thought to have become the UK's youngest victim of forced marriage. http://ahafoundation.visibli.com/share/NC54qA |
Re: Five Year Old Muslim Girl Forced To Marry by 2864: 6:01pm On Aug 07, 2012 |
Up Islam ! Kudos to Muslims. Iam not surprised. Their Nigerian Father...a former governor , with beards like... did the same thing... A sweet 12 years old Egyptian girl is not to bad for over 60 years old fanatics... I dey laugh ooooo |
Re: Five Year Old Muslim Girl Forced To Marry by Delafruita(m): 10:26pm On Aug 07, 2012 |
jcross19: I think they are following suit ahahah from their wannabe prophet who was a paedophiliachristianity also has a history riddled with absolutely ludicrous sexual immorality. |
Re: Five Year Old Muslim Girl Forced To Marry by Ptolomeus(m): 10:35pm On Aug 07, 2012 |
Christians and Arabs, say they came to Africa to "civilize" the savages ".... Irony! 1 Like |
Re: Five Year Old Muslim Girl Forced To Marry by Nobody: 10:55pm On Aug 07, 2012 |
I wonder what type of sick degenerate would agree to being married to a five year old. . . . . . . . Islamically, you cannot force a girl to marry a man she does not like, it is wrong and unacceptable. This practise has nothing to do with Islam. Thank you. 1 Like |
Re: Five Year Old Muslim Girl Forced To Marry by Saintparis1: 7:54am On Aug 08, 2012 |
fellis: Huh He didn't set the stage? Muhammad asked aisha's hand in marriage when she was 6yrs and consummated the marriage when she was 9. C'mon quit the lying |
Re: Five Year Old Muslim Girl Forced To Marry by LagosShia: 12:35pm On Aug 08, 2012 |
Saint paris: review this thread and discover your ignorance: https://www.nairaland.com/846958/tell-me-why-mohammed-married |
Re: Five Year Old Muslim Girl Forced To Marry by Saintparis1: 4:18pm On Aug 08, 2012 |
LagosShia: Aisha was 9 lunar years old or 8 years 9 months old according to solar years when Muhammad slept with her. This is a fact demonstrated by a great number of hadiths. There is no controversy in that. There has never been until now that some of the Muslims have come in contact with western values and are ashamed to admit that their Prophet could commit such an indecency. They deny the facts and have made it a controversy. . Accept it that's what your prophet is. "Craddl3 robbber" |
Re: Five Year Old Muslim Girl Forced To Marry by LagosShia: 4:25pm On Aug 08, 2012 |
Saint paris: it is not more of a fact than accepting Mary was 12 years old given to a 90 year old Joseph when she conceived miraculously. you take what you want to accept.from historical accounts,Aisha could have being up to 19 or 21 year old. also,up until recently,the age of consent in europe and america (about 100 years ago) at a time christian values were still present in those societies before secularism took over,was 10 and 12 years old! |
Re: Five Year Old Muslim Girl Forced To Marry by Saintparis1: 7:35pm On Aug 08, 2012 |
LagosShia: Sahih Bukhari Volume 5, Book 58, Number 245 Narrated 'Aisha: (the wife of the Prophet) I never remembered my parents believing in any religion other than the true religion (i.e. Islam), If Ayesha was older i.e. 16 or 18 as some You claim, she would have remembered the religion of her parents prior to becoming Muslims. Sadly, it is not just Mohammad who thought he shouldhave a child bride; it is also sanctioned in the Koran. To be clear, a man can marry a prepubescent girl who has not even reached her period. In the case of divorce: Qur’an 65:4 If you are in doubt concerning those of your wives who have ceased menstruating, know that their waiting period shall be three months. The sameshall apply to those who have not yet menstruated. As for pregnant women, their term shall end with their confinement. God will ease the hardship of the man who fears him. The surrounding context deals with the issue of the waiting period for divorce, and remarriage. The Quran is telling Muslims to wait for a certain period of time before making the divorce final or deciding to forego it. The Quran exhorts men to wait a period of three months in the case of women who either are no longer menstruating or haven’t even started their menstrual cycles . Since Muslim men are to wait 3 months before divorcing a prepubescent child it means that they have been engaging in sex with those children |
Re: Five Year Old Muslim Girl Forced To Marry by LagosShia: 10:23pm On Aug 08, 2012 |
AISHA WAS NOT 9 YEARS OLD OR A CHILD WHEN THE PROPHET MARRIED HER [8] The popular version of ‘Ãisha’s youth age has been exploited by the anti-Islamic groups to attack the Prophet “for marrying a child”. The fact of the matter is that Lady ‘Ãisha was not a child when she was married in 2 AH to the Prophet. At-Tabari, the famous Muslim historian, writes that Abu Bakr’s first two wives and their children were all born in the pre-Islamic era. (Ta’rīkh at-Tabari, vol. 2 [Beirut: al-A‘lami, n.d.] p. 616.) Based on this, even if she was born a year before the commencement of Islam, ‘Ãisha would be 15 or 16 years old at the time of her marriage to the Prophet – an age in which marriage is common in most cultures. Ibn Kathīr, in his al-Bidãyah wa ’n-Nihãyah (vol. 8, p. 381) states that Asmã’ bint Abu Bakr, the sister of ‘Ãisha, was ten years older than ‘Ãisha. He also reports that Asmã’ died in the year 73 AH at the age of 100. Based on this calculation, ‘Ãisha was 18 or 19 years old at the time of her marriage. https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-53711.0.html#msg7170329 |
Re: Five Year Old Muslim Girl Forced To Marry by Saintparis1: 3:21am On Aug 09, 2012 |
Really? You may still claim that all these hadithes are lies. People are free to say whatever they want. But truth is clear like the Sun for those who have eyes. No sane person would be aroused by a 9- year-old child. Decent people wince at the thought of this shameful act. Yet some Muslims deny them. The question is why so many followers of Muhammad would fabricate so many false hadithes about the age of Ayisha, which incidentally confirm each other? Why should anyone fabricate a lie about the age of Ayisha that would portray his Prophet as a pedophile? |
Re: Five Year Old Muslim Girl Forced To Marry by nakash: 1:49pm On Aug 09, 2012 |
Muslims are ashamed that their prophet could sleep with a 9 year girl. Saint paris: Really? You may still claim that all |
Re: Five Year Old Muslim Girl Forced To Marry by LagosShia: 2:01pm On Aug 09, 2012 |
nakash: Muslims are ashamed that their prophet could sleep with a 9 year girl. so what do you say about 12 year old Mary getting pregnated miraculously at a time she was betrothed to another man? how do you describe that? it looks like your mission is called "operation defamation".your job is character assasination and trying to provoke others.you have nothing good to say nor to promote about yourself or religion.instead you try to defame others.the same thing you're doing in this thread: https://www.nairaland.com/1006279/how-man-wives-did-muhammad/3 go and die! we are proud Muslims.i even doubt you're a Nigerian.you're promoting that website you referred me to in the thread i just made reference to (above). |
Re: Five Year Old Muslim Girl Forced To Marry by BetaThings: 2:50am On Aug 10, 2012 |
nakash: Muslims are ashamed that their prophet could sleep with a 9 year girl.Muslims are never ashamed of whatever the Prophet (PBUH) did |
Re: Five Year Old Muslim Girl Forced To Marry by BetaThings: 3:14am On Aug 10, 2012 |
Saint paris: Really? You may still claim that all How come sane people of that era never found un"exciting" what the Prophet did Were there no decent people (like you or the way you define it) then? So maybe the age (whatever you chose to put it) was not an issue Did you know that the age of consent/marriage in England was once 10? Did you know that in Europe during the Middle Ages, the lord of the manor had a legal right to spend the first night with any non-noble bride on his land Today the age of consent in Spain is 13; same as in South Korea You can still marry a girl younger than 13 in some parts of Mexico today |
Re: Five Year Old Muslim Girl Forced To Marry by tiarabubu: 8:12am On Aug 10, 2012 |
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Re: Five Year Old Muslim Girl Forced To Marry by Saintparis1: 9:15am On Aug 10, 2012 |
BetaThings: Something that was acceptable 1400 years ago in Arabia or during the middle Ages may not look that good today. Perhaps we should not judge those people so harshly. But the question is why should we follow them? I agree that morality is relative and we should not judge the ancient people’s morality with our modern morality. Obviously we all cringe when we think of pedophilia and acknowledge that it is a shameful act of immorality. But during the time of Muhammad, and even today in some Islamic countries, marrying a 9-year-old child was not immoral. In fact Aisha was given to Muhammad with the consent of her parents and no one raised an eyebrow. The question is, if sleeping with a nine year old child was not deemed bad and therefore was not considered immoral, was it ok? Not everything that a society accepts as moral is right. Having sex with a minor may not have been immoral for Arabs 1400 years ago or in the middle Ages, but it is now, as it was then, unethical. Moralities are defined by circumstances, but ethics transcend time and space. They are rooted in logics. Morality can vary from culture to culture, from time to time and from person to person. Who is to determine what is moral and what is not? “ Having sex with a minor may not have been immoral for Muhammad and his contemporaries in that uncivilized culture, but it was ethically wrong. If Muhammad was a messenger of God or an honorable man, as he made his Allah to proclaim him thus, he should have known that what he was doing was dishonorable and unethical. Although it is true that in the past people married at very young age. And it is also true that occasionally wealthy old men married very young girls. We have to realize that these people acted on their culture. We do not condemn them for they did not know better. What they did was the norm. But we do condemn those cultures. However, we cannot forgive with the same amnesty those who claimed to be the standard of rectitude amongst mankind. If average people could not distinguish the right from the wrong, the messenger of God, if he were from God, should have known better. If His claim was true, if his knowledge was divine, if he was inspired, he should not have followed the tradition of their people but should have set the example. Muhammad followed the morality of his people. But that morality was ethically wrong. He claimed to be the best human and the last messenger of God. According to him God has said to people all he wanted to say in the Quran and his religion is complete. There is no more guidance to come and his examples and teachings are all we need to know and follow for eternity. Yet what he did and said, under the light of modern values prove to be very wrong. [/quote]Today the age of consent in Spain is 13; same as in South Korea You can still marry a girl younger than 13 in some parts of Mexico today[/quote] Nope....... it's 13 for minors, 16 for adults A 16 can have sex with a 13 but a 50 cannot have sex with under 16. |
Re: Five Year Old Muslim Girl Forced To Marry by brentkruge: 11:01pm On Aug 10, 2012 |
Saint paris: Brilliantly said. Brilliant! |
Re: Five Year Old Muslim Girl Forced To Marry by LagosShia: 11:17pm On Aug 10, 2012 |
LagosShia: AISHA WAS NOT 9 YEARS OLD OR A CHILD WHEN THE PROPHET MARRIED HER na wa for blind christians.they keep whining as if they did not see the above or the link to the other thread where this topic was extensively treated. |
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