I was banned there because the hadiths I quoted were confirmed as authentic and they portrayed their prophet as a murderer, rapist and a robber. The post was even deleted. Verily verily I say unto you I have noticed that there are so many people questioning that stupid deen there and in so many forums elsewhere. Today there was a very explosive one that I did not save but it basically chronicled their prophets life as a fake prophet. It was deleted because the mods had no answer. If you can go over there, create many handles because big mac will ban you like he has done my 2 handles when I beat him hands down. Ditto Jarus. We have to get rid of this scourge that has brainwashed them .

The moment these brainwashed Muslims realise that every non believer knows that they believe in a fake deity, sex maniac, a violent religion, a 52 year old man who was kind enough to thigh a 6 year old while waiting for her to get her first menses @9 years so that he would achieve penetration , dah It will be too much shame for them. Let it be known that all kufr know that these silly zombies believe in a fake deity. Let them know that they are fooling noone with their warped interperation.

phock them! phock allah!

nakash: I was banned there because the hadiths I quoted were confirmed as authentic and they portrayed their prophet as a murderer, rapist and a robber. The post was even deleted. Verily verily I say unto you I have noticed that there are so many people questioning that stupid deen there and in so many forums elsewhere. Today there was a very explosive one that I did not save but it basically chronicled their prophets life as a fake prophet. It was deleted because the mods had no answer. If you can go over there, create many handles because big mac will ban you like he has done my 2 handles when I beat him hands down. Ditto Jarus. We have to get rid of this scourge that has brainwashed them .

The problem with you people is that you start threads with bias against Muslims already firmly planted in your hearts and so whenever you are told that a statement you posted is false, you immediately protest and go to google to search for all manner of falsified information from anti Islamic sites and then come back to claim that your falsified info is the 'truth' and the Muslims are trying to hide the truth.
You claim that the Hadiths you posted were authentic; what makes you so sure? Are you an Islamic scholar? An Ustadh? I don't know what got you banned or which of your posts was hidden but you people have to learn to start threads with good intentions and not with the intention of making trouble/insulting Islam and Muslims if you don't want to keep getting banned.

diluminati: phock them! phock allah!

Today some handle tore muhammad apart. The mods deleted the thread and possibly banned the handle. When someone proves that they believe in a made up god they ban the handle. PAThetic How long will they lie for their religion? How long will Big Mac, Lagoshia, tbaba, sweetnecta, et all lie to prove their paedophile prophet right? I am active in faithfreedom.org and some guy iffo was like them but they are are all exmuslims with classical arabic knowledge till he apostated and is the biggest islam critic there.

seriously i dont give a phock about islam,mo or allah. i think they are all deluded and crazy

nakash: I am active in faithfreedom.org and some guy iffo was like them but they are are all exmuslims with classical arabic knowledge till he apostated and is the biggest islam critic there.

Your guy, if he actually exists, probably didn't even understand the Islam he was following before he decided to join the rest of you confused buffoons on faithfreedom.org.

I posted a hadith on a thread that showed the prophet attacked a community 150 km away and the clerics want to justify that. As a first thing ask any retarded inbred muslim (married to his genetical cousin) why they hate Jews.[ quote author=nakash][/quote]

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Guide to Understanding Islam


What does the
Religion of Peace
Teach About...
The Sex Life of the Prophet



Question:
Was Islam's "perfect man" sexually restrained?


Summary Answer:
Muhammad had sex with just about anyone he pleased, thanks to Allah's
extraordinary interest in his personal sex life, as immortalized in the
Qur'an.
Although the Qur'an didn't appear to have enough space for topics like
universal love and brotherhood (which Muslims sometimes insist are there,
but aren't), the list of sexual partners that Muhammad was entitled to is
detailed more than once, sometimes in categories and sometimes in
reference to specific persons (ie. Zaynab and Mary).
Muhammad was married to thirteen women, including eleven at one time. He
relegated them to either consecutive days or (according to some accounts)
all in one night. He married a 9-year-old girl and even his adopted son's
wife. On top of that, Muhammad had a multitude of slave girls and
concubines with whom he had sex - sometimes on the very days in which they
had watched their husbands and fathers die at the hands of his army.
So, by any realistic measure, the creator of the world's most sexually
restrictive religion was also one of the most sexually indulgent
characters in history.



The Qur'an:
Allah managed to hand down quite a few "revelations" that sanctioned
Muhammad's personal pursuit of sex to the doubters around him.
Interestingly they have become part of the the eternal, infallible word of
the Qur'an, to be memorized by generations of Muslims for whom they have
no possible relevance.
Qur'an (33:37) - "But when Zaid had accomplished his want of her, We gave
her to you as a wife, so that there should be no difficulty for the
believers in respect of the wives of their adopted sons, when they have
accomplished their want of them; and Allah's command shall be performed."
No doubt millions of young Muslims, trying to outdo one another at
memorizing the Qur'an, have wondered about what this verse means and why
it is there. In fact, this is a "revelation" of convenience that Allah
just happened to hand down at a time when Muhammad lusted after his
daughter-in-law, Zaynab, - a state of affairs that disturbed local
customs. The verse "commands" Muhammad to marry the woman (following her
husband's gracious divorce). As for why this should be part of the
eternal word of God...?
Qur'an (33:50) - "O Prophet! surely We have made lawful to you your wives
whom you have given their dowries, and those whom your right hand
possesses out of those whom Allah has given to you as prisoners of war,
and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your
paternal aunts, and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the
daughters of your maternal aunts who fled with you; and a believing woman
if she gave herself to the Prophet, if the Prophet desired to marry her--
specially for you, not for the (rest of) believers; We know what We have
ordained for them concerning their wives and those whom their right hands
possess in order that no blame may attach to you; " This is another
special command that Muhammad handed down to himself that allows virtually
unlimited sex, divinely sanctioned by Allah. One assumes that this
"revelation" was meant to assuage some sort of disgruntlement in the
community over Muhammad's hedonism.
Qur'an (33:51) - "You may put off whom you please of them, and you may
take to you whom you please, and whom you desire of those whom you had
separated provisionally; no blame attaches to you; this is most proper, so
that their eyes may be cool and they may not grieve, and that they should
be pleased" This is in reference to a situation in which Muhammad's wives
were grumbling about his preference for sleeping with a slave girl (Mary
the Copt) instead of them. Accordingly, Muhammad may sleep with whichever
wife (or slave) he wishes without having to hear the others complain... as
revealed in Allah's literal and perfect words to more than a billion
Muslims.
Qur'an (66:1-5) - "O Prophet! Why ban thou that which Allah hath made
lawful for thee, seeking to please thy wives?..." Another remarkable
verse of sexual convenience concerns an episode in which Muhammad's wives
were jealous of the attention that he was giving to a Christian slave
girl. But, as he pointed out to them, to neglect the sexual availability
of his slaves was against Allah's will for him!
Qur'an (4:24) - "And all married women (are forbidden unto you) save those
(captives) whom your right hands possess." Allah even permitted Muhammad
and his men to have sex with married slaves, such as those captured in
battle.



From the Hadith:

Muslim (8:3309) - Muhammad consummated his marriage to Aisha when she was
only nine. (See also Bukhari 58:234 and many other places). No where in
the reliable Hadith or Sira is there any other age given.

Bukhari (62:18) - Aisha's father, Abu Bakr, wasn't on board at first, but
Muhammad explained how the rules of their religion made it possible. This
is similar to the way that present-day cult leaders manipulate their
followers into similar concessions.

Muslim (8:3311) - The girl took her dolls with her to Muhammad's house
(something to play with when the "prophet" was not having sex with her).

Bukhari (6:298) - Muhammad would take a bath with the little girl and
handle her.

Muslim (8:3460) - "Why didn't you marry a young girl so that you could
sport with her and she sport with you, or you could amuse with her and she
could amuse with you?" Muhammad posed this question to one of his
followers who had married an "older woman" instead of opting to handle a
child.

Bukhari (4:232) - Muhammad's wives would wash semen stains out of his
clothes, which were still wet from the spot-cleaning even when he went to
the mosque for prayers. Between copulation and prayer, it's a wonder he
found the time to slay pagans.

Bukhari (6:300) - Muhammad's wives had to be available for the prophet's
handling even when they were having their menstrual period.

Bukhari (93:639) - The Prophet of Islam would recite the 'Holy Qur'an'
with his head in Aisha's lap, when she was menstruating.

Bukhari (62:6) - "The Prophet used to go round (have sexual relations
with) all his wives in one night, and he had nine wives." Muhammad also
said that it was impossible to treat all wives equally - and it isn't hard
to guess why.

Bukhari (5:268) - "The Prophet used to visit all his wives in a round,
during the day and night and they were eleven in number." I asked Anas,
'Had the Prophet the strength for it?' Anas replied, 'We used to say that
the Prophet was given the strength of thirty men.' "

Bukhari (60:311) - "I feel that your Lord hastens in fulfilling your
wishes and desires." These words were spoken by Aisha within the context
of her husband having been given 'Allah's permission' to fulfill his
sexual desires with a large number of women in whatever order he chooses.
(It has been suggested that Aisha may have been speaking somewhat wryly).

Muslim (8:3424) - One of several narrations in which a leering Muhammad
orders a clearly startled woman to suckle a grown man with her breast so
that he will become "unlawful" to her - meaning that they can live under
the same roof together.

Tabari IX:137 - "Allah granted Rayhana of the Qurayza to Muhammad as
booty." Muhammad considered the women that he captured and enslaved to
be God's gift to him.

Tabari VIII:117 - "Dihyah had asked the Messenger for Safiyah when the
Prophet chose her for himself... the Apostle traded for Safiyah by giving
Dihyah her two cousins. The women of Khaybar were distributed among the
Muslims." He sometimes pulled rank to reserve the most beautiful captured
women for himself.

Tabari IX:139 - "You are a self-respecting girl, but the prophet is a
womanizer." Words spoken by the disappointed parents of a girl who had
'offered' herself to Muhammad (he accepted).


Additional Notes:

Muhammad's sexual antics are an embarrassment to those Muslims who are
aware of them. This is particularly so for their prophet's consummation
of his marriage to Aisha when she was only nine years of age. The thought
of a 52-year-old man sleeping and bathing with a young girl is intensely
unpleasant and it reflects the disgusting character of a sexual glutton
rather than a holy man. Critics even allege that Muhammad was a
pedophile.

Some Muslims respond by denying the hadith itself, which is a mistake.
The accounts of Muhammad sleeping with a 9-year-old are no less reliable
than those on which the five pillars of Islam are based. They have been
an accepted part of tradition and did not become controversial until
social mores began to change with the modern age.

The charge of pedophilia may or may not be true, depending on how it is
defined. Technically, Muhammad did have a sexual relationship with a
child, but Aisha was also the youngest of his twelve wives. Zaynab was in
her 30's when she attracted the unquenchable lust of the prophet. We
don't know the age of Muhammad's sex slaves. They may or may not have
been as young as Aisha, but there is no point in speculating.

Prior to the medical advances of the last century, marriage occurred at a
much younger age across all societies. When life expectancy was in the
mid 20's (or lower), it made no sense to wait until 19 to start having
children. Otherwise, one ran the risk of not being around to raise them.
In short, childhood as we know it was abbreviated by the reality of the
times.

Another strong piece of evidence against Muhammad being a pedophile is
that, according to the same Hadith, he waited from the time Aisha was six
(when the marriage ceremony took place) until she turned nine to
consummate the relationship. Although the text doesn't say why, in all
probability it was because he was waiting for her to begin menstrual
cycles - thus entering into "womanhood." It is unlikely that a pedophile
would be concerned about this.

On the other hand, Muhammad passed down revelations from Allah that
clearly condoned sleeping with underage girls, even by the standard of
puberty. Qur'an (65:4) relates rules for divorce, one of them being that
a waiting period of three months is established to determine that the
woman is not pregnant. But the same rule applies to "those too who have
not had their courses," meaning girls who have not begun to menstruate.
(In our opinion, this would have been a great time for Allah to have said
something else instead like, "a real man is one who marries an actual,
grown woman"... but that's just us).

Thanks to Muhammad's extremely poor judgment (at best) and explicit
approval of pedophilia, sex with children became deeply ingrained in the
Islamic tradition. For many centuries, Muslim armies would purge
Christian and Hindu peasant villages of their menfolk and send the women
and children to harems and the thriving child sex slave markets deep in
the Islamic world.

When it comes to child marriage, contemporary clerics warn fellow Muslims
against succumbing to the disapproval of the Christian West: "It behooves
those who call for setting a minimum age for marriage to fear Allah and
not contradict his Sharia, or try to legislate things Allah did not
permit. For laws are Allah’s province; and legislation is his excusive
right, to be shared by none other. And among these are the rules governing
marriage.”

The Ayatollah Khomeini, who married a 12-year-old girl, even gave his
consent to using infants for sexual pleasure (although warning against
full penetration until the baby is a few years older). In April, 2010, a
13-year-old Yemeni girl died from injuries suffered to her womb during
"intercourse".

Some clerics show relative mercy on underage girls by advocating a process
known as "thighing" (also known as child molestation in the West).
According to a recent fatwa (number 23672), an imam answers this question:
"My parents married me to a young girl who hasn't yet reached puberty. How
can I enjoy her sexually?" by telling the 'man' that he may "hug her, kiss
her, and ejaculate between her legs."

Muhammad's penchant for girls so much younger than him was such that at
least two of his father-in-laws (Abu Bakr and Omar, the first two Caliphs)
were actually younger than him as well. This disappointing pattern is
very much at odds with the sort of sexual discipline that one might expect
of a true "prophet of God."

Muhammad's pursuit of Zaynab, the wife of his adopted son is almost as
tough for Muslims to explain. This is because it not only raises a
similar question of moral character, but also casts suspicion on whether
his so-called prophecies were really divine revelation or dictates of
personal convenience. According to one biographer, even Aisha appears to
be somewhat doubtful of Muhammad's claim that Allah commanded him to marry
Zaynab, wryly remarking, "Truly Allah seems to be very quick in fulfilling
your prayers."

So controversial was Muhammad's desire to marry his adopted son's wife
that he had to justify it with a stern pronouncement from Allah on the
very institution of adoption, which has had tragic consequences to this
day. Verses 33:4-5 are widely interpreted to imply that Islam is against
adoption, meaning that an untold number of children in the Islamic world
have been needlessly orphaned - all because Muhammad's lustful desires for
a married woman went beyond even what the other six wives that he
possessed at the time and a multitude of slaves could satisfy.

Some Muslims deny that Muhammad was married to more than four women at a
time, merely on the basis that the Qur'an only gives permission for
marrying four. Unfortunately, Muslims historians disagree. Only one of
Muhammad's last eleven wives died before him (Zaynab bint Khuzayma). The
rest outlived him by many years.

Muhammad forbade his ten widows from remarrying, even making sure that
this "divine" order was forever preserved in the eternal word of Allah -
Qur'an (33:53). To add insult to injury, they were all summarily
disinherited from Muhammad's estate by his successor (courtesy of another
divine order "given" to Abu Bakr from Allah).

In summary, Islam's holiest texts portray Muhammad not as a perfect man,
but as a sexual hedonist. Not only did he become fat from indulging in
food, but his pursuit of sex was no less gluttonous. On top of it all, he
used personal "revelations" from Allah to justify his debauchery to the
gullible masses which, to this day, continue to be venerated and memorized
as if they are the holiest of utterances.



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i have opened a thread about this three times and it was closed or moved three times, NAIRALAND MUSLIMS ARE TOTALLY INTOLERANT

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@ poster, I don't know what religion u worship ur God in, but I will suggest u concentrate more on pleasin ur God by doin his will at all times instead of bashin and sayin tins about other peoples religion.

Honestly as a Christian,I am sick all this bashin of other peoples religion especially between the Christians and moslem. What happene to freedom of religion and respect for other peoples religion. If anyman chooses to whorship stones how does that affect u.

Pls Christians let moslems be and let them follow Mohammed, amd moslems let us follow our Jesus. Bashin each other will never help us

frank3.16:
@ poster, I don't know what religion u worship ur God in, but I will suggest u concentrate more on pleasin ur God by doin his will at all times instead of bashin and sayin tins about other peoples religion.

Honestly as a Christian,I am sick all this bashin of other peoples religion especially between the Christians and moslem. What happene to freedom of religion and respect for other peoples religion. If anyman chooses to whorship stones how does that affect u.

Pls Christians let moslems be and let them follow Mohammed, amd moslems let us follow our Jesus. Bashin each other will never help us

THANK YOU!!!

frank3.16:
@ poster, I don't know what religion u worship ur God in, but I will suggest u concentrate more on pleasin ur God by doin his will at all times instead of bashin and sayin tins about other peoples religion.

Honestly as a Christian,I am sick all this bashin of other peoples religion especially between the Christians and moslem. What happene to freedom of religion and respect for other peoples religion. If anyman chooses to whorship stones how does that affect u.

Pls Christians let moslems be and let them follow Mohammed, amd moslems let us follow our Jesus. Bashin each other will never help us

Allah 1st started the bashing in its book.

Saint paris:

Allah 1st started the bashing in its book.

Just stop d bashing, u will never gain anytin from it. U make religion a joke when u bash. After all are we not supposed to worship our God d way we deem fit? Must I worship God the Wau u like?

Saint paris:

Allah 1st started the bashing in its book.

Just stop d bashing, u will never gain anytin from it. U make religion a joke when u bash. After all are we not supposed to worship our God d way we deem fit? Must I worship God the Way u like to worship him?

E_monkey:
The problem with you people is that you start threads with bias against Muslims already firmly planted in your hearts and so whenever you are told that a statement you posted is false, you immediately protest and go to google to search for all manner of falsified information from anti Islamic sites and then come back to claim that your falsified info is the 'truth' and the Muslims are trying to hide the truth.
You claim that the Hadiths you posted were authentic; what makes you so sure? Are you an Islamic scholar? An Ustadh? I don't know what got you banned or which of your posts was hidden but you people have to learn to start threads with good intentions and not with the intention of making trouble/insulting Islam and Muslims if you don't want to keep getting banned.

are you saying that you hadith dont contain the info that muhamad got married to a 9yrs old child?

Are you saying that he did not thigh a 6yrs old girl?

Is it not the same hadith that contain the pilar of islam?

frank3.16:
@ poster, I don't know what religion u worship ur God in, but I will suggest u concentrate more on pleasin ur God by doin his will at all times instead of bashin and sayin tins about other peoples religion.

Honestly as a Christian,I am sick all this bashin of other peoples religion especially between the Christians and moslem. What happene to freedom of religion and respect for other peoples religion. If anyman chooses to whorship stones how does that affect u.

Pls Christians let moslems be and let them follow Mohammed, amd moslems let us follow our Jesus. Bashin each other will never help us

that is if that religion allows others to live there lives while the live theirs.

Are you not aware that your just talking can lead them to kill you?

How are we sure it is to prevent you from knowing what they worship that give room for the threat and killing?

men, speak the truth and call black black, if not, may a 50 years old man marry your 9yrs old daughter?
Otherswise you make yourself a hypocrite.

truthislight:

are you saying that you hadith dont contain the info that muhamad got married to a 9yrs old child?

Early marriage was a common custom among the Arabs back then. It was a widespread and accepted thing in their Arab traditions and was not done because of Islamic tenets.

truthislight:
Are you saying that he did not thigh a 6yrs old girl?

He did no such thing. Quote the hadith to show that he did it.

@nakash
I checked Quran.com for Quran 33:53 and there is no such verse. Could your write-up contain errors in the quoted verses?

Update: My mistake. I was initially viewing from a mobile phone. Now that I have accessed it with my computer I see the verse. Allah did ban others from marrying the prophet's wives. Hmmm, how interesting.

E_monkey:
Early marriage was a common custom among the Arabs back then. It was a widespread and accepted thing in their Arab traditions and was not done because of Islamic tenets.


He did no such thing. Quote the hadith to show that he did it.

well, i hope you are saying the truth.

On this forum a guy nakash or so said he did and quoted an iranian of so source.

but if this things are lies it should not be difficult for the islam guys to defend him?

Ayesha in her own words said that the prophet married her at 6 years old when she was playing with her dolls

Any question the muslems can not answer or anything that shows the indecency of muhamed is from anti-islamic site.

Mee234: Any question the muslems can not answer or anything that shows the indecency of muhamed is from anti-islamic site.

is the hadith anti islamic?

@Nakash: [quote]by nakash: 9:28pm On Aug 22


For such an important matter, it would not have been told reported by a single source. The whole community would know about it and it would not be a secret to be reported for future or even the current generation then.

Many people would have practiced among the muslims and the jews of Madina would have used it to say the messenger [sa], this message and those who followed it were immoral and hence cant be from God. But this was not the case.

I therefore summit to you that the so called hadith is a false, forged, fabricated for many reason more than I gave here.

But when Quran disagrees with anything, even that alone proves that the hadith is false, fabricated.
Allah says no one should be considered adult until the age of marriage {BALAGH}.

I say based on the evidence of the birth and events that happened in the life of Aisha [ra] and her parents, her father's divorce from her mother, her father's plan to migrate to Ethiopia, her father asking the family which had engaged her for their son to take her and look after her so that he [ra] her father can migrate show that she was born before the first year of revelation when her father became Muslim. Hence, she would not have been 9, 15 years later.


Anyone could have reported anything about anyone who will not be able to deny it. After all christians say Jesus is God. When Jesus said I can do nothing of my own power, we truly know that the claim for Jesus is God is false when he said your Lord and my Lord is One God

Sweetnecta: @Nakash:

well, you seem to be making some sense though.

But the sense you are passing over is destroying the hadith that contain the pilars of islam.

You really need to come up with something better.

Again, the muslim community/islam are still into the marriage of 9years old kid today.

I have picture of mass marriage of 9years old kids by grown up men in an islam community. About 15 marriages.

I hope i wont have to upload this pictures to drive home my points.

So, how can one excuse this and accept that the hadith was wrong as you claim?