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Mtcheeeeeeeeew....!

He has a right to say he is Ijebu and not Yoruba. It's a pity you are seeing such for the first time. Take it or leave it, the Awujale of Ijebuland has spoken on their identity-that they are not Yorubas and that they came from Sudan.
Long live Ijebu ethnic nationality.

^^^Andre_Uweh, what's good?

When will I get an invite to the Igbo youth meeting in London?

Ijebus are Yoruba.

shymexx: ^^^Andre_Uweh, what's good?

When will I get an invite to the Igbo youth meeting in London?

We are not same and am based in Nigeria. Carry time oo.

PAGAN 9JA:
Ijebus are Yoruba.

If their overrall paramount ruler and the custodian of their history says they are not yorubas, who are you to say what they are not. The Ijebu peoples right to ethnic nationality must be respected.

Ngodigha1:
If their overrall paramount ruler and the custodian of their history says they are not yorubas, who are you to say what they are not. The Ijebu peoples right to ethnic nationality must be respected.

I've seen the statement, and that was a political statement... I asked pops who's from a royal Ijebu family, and he said any Ijebu guy that says he isn't Yoruba is delusional... We're 100% Yoruba and one of the purest Yoruba sub-group.

I kind of seeing where the Awujale was coming from - because the Ijebu kingdom(Sungbo Eredo) in the ancient times was a massive Kingdom, and he was just trying to compete with other Yoruba Obas. And he was also trying to bring the Itsekiris back under the Ijebu tag, but saying Ijebus aren't Yoruba is ludicrous... That being said, we also have a right to be cocky because Ijebu Kingdom have controlled most of the sea access Yoruba people have from ancient times, till now - but we're Yoruba people..

Almost all the most respected leaders of Yoruba people also have Ijebu ancestry... Chief Awolowo and Chief Abraham Adesanya... We're are Yoruba people!

Ijebu is not youruba?
..or am i not reading right?
Nansense!

It was in the late 30's that Ijebu monarchs started attending yoruba meetings and even at that they attended it as observers. Ijebus being Yoruba today is just political and that started during the Awoic era.
Ijebu is Ijebu and Yoruba is Yoruba.

Ngodigha1:
If their overrall paramount ruler and the custodian of their history says they are not yorubas, who are you to say what they are not. The Ijebu peoples right to ethnic nationality must be respected.

it is not for the paramount ruler, or the people to decide. it is for history and genetics to decide.

history clearly dictates Yoruba ancestry, unless you have proof of otherwise. there is also one simple test: do Ijebus have a different Traditional religion because Pagan religions cannpt be proselytysed. it is solely acquired by birth, be it anywhere in the world. if they arefollowers of Ifa-Orisha, then they are Yorubas.

Yoruba leave Ijebu tribe alone the are not yoruba you people want to steal their lands

Why are you people trying to claim other people's land

PAGAN 9JA:


it is not for the paramount ruler, or the people to decide. it is for history and genetics to decide.

history clearly dictates Yoruba ancestry, unless you have proof of otherwise. there is also one simple test: do Ijebus have a different Traditional religion because Pagan religions cannpt be proselytysed. it is solely acquired by birth, be it anywhere in the world. if they arefollowers of Ifa-Orisha, then they are Yorubas.

They ijebus are neighbours to the Yorubas and as a result, they have exchanged cultural traits with their neighbours . Up till the early 30's , the Ijebus will fight anyone who identifies them as Yorubas.
They are not Yorubas, why is this hard to accept. W

Ijebu people have made it clear they are not Yoruba so why force them?

Ngodigha1:
They ijebus are neighbours to the Yorubas and as a result, they have exchanged cultural traits with their neighbours . Up till the early 30's , the Ijebus will fight anyone who identifies them as Yorubas.
They are not Yorubas, why is this hard to accept. W

why are you saying they are not Yorubas it seems you are more worried about the land than the "Yorubas" themselves. and please dont talk about culture. i clearly mentioned "Yoruba religion". the only way to acquire Yoruba religion is by descent. culture can be copied.

also what is your basis on this claim?

dazey: Ijebu people have made it clear they are not Yoruba so why force them?

who is forcing? isnt this thread created by an Ijebu

PAGAN 9JA:


why are you saying they are not Yorubas it seems you are more worried about the land than the "Yorubas" themselves. and please dont talk about culture. i clearly mentioned "Yoruba religion". the only way to acquire Yoruba religion is by descent. culture can be copied.

also what is your basis on this claim?

Culture in this context is every aspect of life including religion. So the two nations have copied each other. You are not an Ijebuman and shouldn't be speaking for them. Aribisala0 etc who are Ijebus have made it clearly known to all that they are not Yorubas. It is a lack of total respect to refer the Ijebus as Yorubas while they are not. Dude, show some respect.

Ijebu are NOT yoruba,simple and short. Even awori self!

PAGAN 9JA:


who is forcing? isnt this thread created by an Ijebu

99% of ijebu and Awori don't see themselves as yoruba

Ngodigha1:
Culture in this context is every aspect of life including religion. So the two nations have copied each other. You are not an Ijebuman and shouldn't be speaking for them. Aribisala0 etc who are Ijebus have made it clearly known to all that they are not Yorubas. It is a lack of total respect to refer the Ijebus as Yorubas while they are not. Dude, show some respect.

it is non of my business as to what they re. but by my personal opinion they are Yorubas. you didnt even furninsh any proofs as to your claims and you expect us to believ you.

PAGAN 9JA:



it is non of my business as to what they re. but by my personal opinion they are Yorubas. you didnt even furninsh any proofs as to your claims and you expect us to believ you.

Go and check the list of Ijebu Awujales before 19th century and you will see that none of them bore a yoruba name. Forget about the yoruba people that have recently migrated to Ijebuland, the original ijebus knows that they are not yorubas.

Ngodigha1:
Go and check the list of Ijebu Awujales before 19th century and you will see that none of them bore a yoruba name. Forget about the yoruba people that have recently migrated to Ijebuland, the original ijebus knows that they are not yorubas.

Andre, what's gwaning?

That's very good for you shymmex.

Ngodigha1: He has a right to say he is Ijebu and not Yoruba. It's a pity you are seeing such for the first time. Take it or leave it, the Awujale of Ijebuland has spoken on their identity-that they are not Yorubas and that they came from Sudan.
Long live Ijebu ethnic nationality.

interesting. lol

shymexx:

Andre, what's gwaning?

Ngodigha1:
Go and check the list of Ijebu Awujales before 19th century and you will see that none of them bore a yoruba name. Forget about the yoruba people that have recently migrated to Ijebuland, the original ijebus knows that they are not yorubas.

i will research this one.

shymexx: I just saw a post by aribisala0 where he said; "he's Ijebu and not Yoruba." That's a fallacy that shouldn't be allowed to destroy the unity among the Yoruba Nation... Obanta, the progenitor of the Ijebu sub-group migrated from Ile-Ife, and we have been Yoruba since the beginning of time.. We the Ijebus also make up at least 25% of the people who first inhabitant of Ibadan... We're Yoruba people and we're very proud of our Yoruba heritage.

Hypocrisy, from lack of a better word.

Says that person who was trying to draw a line between Lagosians and Ekitis.

I guess unity has its time, when one decides to play the role of the unifier.

Phew!! NLers, very scary bunch.

Ileke-IdI:


Hypocrisy, from lack of a better word.

Says that person who was trying to draw a line between Lagosians and Ekitis.

I guess unity has its time, when one decides to play the role of the unifier.

Phew!! NLers, very scary bunch.

interesting.

BelaMorena:


interesting.

MzD,

Not sure if you have an issue with me or not, but I sense a tension. It's better to say it upfront than to slyly instigate an assumption you've carved up.
This is simply my observation.
And I chose to ignore when you said "I thought you were good pals" or sth like that because if anyone should know that it really is the "opposite", it would be you.
So any issues you want to clear up with me. . . . please do so.

Ileke-IdI:


MzD,

Not sure if you have an issue with me or not, but I sense a tension. It's better to say it upfront than to slyly instigate an assumption you've carved up.
This is simply my observation.
And I chose to ignore when you said "I thought you were good pals" or sth like that because if anyone should know that it really is the "opposite", it would be you.
So any issues you want to clear up with me. . . . please do so.

You know me long enough to know if I had a problem with you, you would know off gate .
I WAS really curious to know why you two fell off and that's it.

Beer Parlor talk...Ijebu's are 100 + 10 % Yorubas and no one can change that