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Re: Somebody Needs To Write A Book On The Foolishness Of Biafra And Ojukwu by Nobody: 3:04am On Oct 08, 2012 |
CyberG:Which evidence? |
Re: Somebody Needs To Write A Book On The Foolishness Of Biafra And Ojukwu by Nobody: 3:26am On Oct 08, 2012 |
I dont knw why some people tink that war was foolishness.....so we shud have folded our hands to watch our bros and sis being massacred in the north abi? The igbos were asking for a confederation because the opperession under federalism was too much for them. Come 2015, i see a repetition of that grievance if an Ibo is not given that presidency..yaahh call us fool...we dont mind, we refuse to be oppressed. |
Re: Somebody Needs To Write A Book On The Foolishness Of Biafra And Ojukwu by Standing5(m): 3:29am On Oct 08, 2012 |
ezeagu:If cameroun closed it borders, what does that tell you about Biafra? Isn't it suppose to put Pa Awo in the same category as Cameroun for technically closing the Nigerian Border too? But No, in the eyes of Chinua Achebe it meant something else. I guess you know your argument is dead on arrival. |
Re: Somebody Needs To Write A Book On The Foolishness Of Biafra And Ojukwu by ebere1712: 3:32am On Oct 08, 2012 |
CyberG:He attacked one of our greatest veterans with hateful comments and defamed his good name. He showed no empathy for our once dead, and he taunted igbos with his malevolent lies. Nigerians can't even beat a fly, talk-less of beating the great jewel of the Chukwu (Biafra). Nigerians are not free people, they have been enslaved. Explaining why Nigeria is home to some of the smartest people on earth but wallow in disgraceful poverty. Why must all your presidents leave important issues in their country and pay tribute to their owners (immediately after every election). If you doubt me check news articles immediately after general elections in Nigeria. This topic can take hundred pages but believe me dude, you didn't win shit. People that win take away spoils. Where are your spoils? You were mere overused slaves that refused to be free. Azikiwe tried, Nzeogwu tried, Ojukwu tried, ironsi tried, yet you chose to be slaves. For the proof you asked for; research online or read this book http://books.google.com.au/books?id=LWhgw4HheN4C&pg=PA193&lpg=PA193&dq=the+british+against+aburi+accord&source=bl&ots=u5sUPBujh4&sig=_DC9s3PZzLw_oPFfyDlid9fFYEU&hl=en&sa=X&ei=4jdyUN-DKqKgigfKiYCgAg&ved=0CB0Q6AEwADgK |
Re: Somebody Needs To Write A Book On The Foolishness Of Biafra And Ojukwu by ezeagu(m): 3:35am On Oct 08, 2012 |
Standing5: Ahmadou Ahidjo, president for 20 years, shut the borders for unknown reasons in collaboration with Gowon, probably because of Southern Cameroons. I don't even understand why you would think your argument makes sense. If you want to associate your dear leader with a dictator go ahead. |
Re: Somebody Needs To Write A Book On The Foolishness Of Biafra And Ojukwu by Katsumoto: 3:38am On Oct 08, 2012 |
I don't get why some are attacking the OP and questioning whether he is Igbo. As usual, rather than articulate their own arguments to counter what he has provided, they have resorted to ad hominem attacks. |
Re: Somebody Needs To Write A Book On The Foolishness Of Biafra And Ojukwu by Standing5(m): 3:53am On Oct 08, 2012 |
Answer my questions. . . Stop going after irrelevant personalities here. ezeagu: |
Re: Somebody Needs To Write A Book On The Foolishness Of Biafra And Ojukwu by ezeagu(m): 3:58am On Oct 08, 2012 |
shymexx: And how does this take away blame from the British like I already said through their decision in the 60s? I hope you're not one of those that claim the western region had no promises with Biafra which was why starvation was seen as okay? I believe Nnamdi Azikiwe was naive in his view of one Nigeria, the same as other Igbo, but his efforts in the independence movement cannot be forgotten (unmatched actually). |
Re: Somebody Needs To Write A Book On The Foolishness Of Biafra And Ojukwu by ezeagu(m): 4:00am On Oct 08, 2012 |
Standing5: Answer my questions. . . Stop going after irrelevant personalities here. You're questions are pointless and based on opinion. Nigeria was supported by those who it just gained independence from, what does that tell you? That it was and is a muppet with a hand up its nyash. Let's not try and pretend Biafra didn't have support on the African continent. |
Re: Somebody Needs To Write A Book On The Foolishness Of Biafra And Ojukwu by Degis(m): 4:39am On Oct 08, 2012 |
gree-die: Musings of a Ganja-inspired rambler!. A tribe of people, who have no compunction mouthing inanities is called IGBO |
Re: Somebody Needs To Write A Book On The Foolishness Of Biafra And Ojukwu by Katsumoto: 4:51am On Oct 08, 2012 |
gree-die: This made me laugh so hard. |
Re: Somebody Needs To Write A Book On The Foolishness Of Biafra And Ojukwu by Degis(m): 4:51am On Oct 08, 2012 |
gree-die: The haziness of this your post shows that you are part of the problem because if Palenstinians who have fulfilled all your UN resolutions have not yet been granted their heart desires why will anybody for that matter take the Igbo serious |
Re: Somebody Needs To Write A Book On The Foolishness Of Biafra And Ojukwu by greedie1(f): 8:58am On Oct 08, 2012 |
Lol @ you all quoting me, the truth struck home didn't it? And u will do all within ur means to stifle it. A load of crap it may be but it is a factual load of crap! How do u expect dis info to be docmented and made public knowledge? There is a document all right, but u have to be at the top to know and even then, if u r Igbo and becomes privy of this, ur life just has to be snuffed out. There shouldn't have been a nation called Nigeria, the diff tribes dat make this country up and so diverse in belief and culture that they just can't co habit wit each other. They knew this but still chose it coz it was the lesser of the two evil. The alternative was to remain under d rule of the British and this was a no-no. Obj fought against Biafra quite allryt but he was a smart man and wen he assumed office and knew the ploy of the British, he saw that it would be to the detriment of all, he tried to salvage the situation to save his hide and dat of his kinsmen. U think his bid was foiled by the senate? Think again! The British has penetrated all out sectors and they act tru our gullible spokesmen. As tactful as Britain is, do u think they ll leave any trail? U say I ve bin brainwashed but it's u all who have swallowed the lies written down hook and sinker. Often times u hear people interpret d saying " if u want to hide the truth from a black man, hide it in a book" to mean that blacks don't read and research but I tell u, what the white man meant was that the blacks believe everytin they read, they don't make further research. U see d whites, someone ll come out wit a theory and another will research and dispprove it but dat isn't d case here. U post ur source and want me to do same, I ask u, what is the source of ur source? Do a lol research nd u ll see dat this popular belief was spread by the unreliable British. U have countered my arguments on the basis that it's all hog wash and dat the igbos possess nothing that other nigerians and the British fear. U say we amount to no threat so I ask, why is it so hard to se this supposed whiny tribe free? Why do u choose to remain paired wit this tribe u detest so much? Why would u rather fight us than let us go? Fellow nigerians, u ve to think outside the box. I ve not the time or the zeal to argue wit u or make u see the truth. Any further contribution ll ve to wait til weekend. But I ll leave u wit this- d few unenlightened igbos advocating for war doesn't know more than u do but the rest of us that know the real deal is biddin our tym, mapping out a strategy dat doesn't involve blood. Keep calling us whiny and countering our arguments, we ll get wat we want and wen we do, u all won't know wat hit u. Like I wrote earlier, Britain is the real problem. all other tribes can't stand the heat. Have a nice week u all peace, out 1 Like |
Re: Somebody Needs To Write A Book On The Foolishness Of Biafra And Ojukwu by amaba: 9:26am On Oct 08, 2012 |
Olodo! and u r still suffering today as an ibo man. Prodigal son. Rossikk: Somebody Needs To Write A Book On the Foolishness Of Biafra and Ojukwu |
Re: Somebody Needs To Write A Book On The Foolishness Of Biafra And Ojukwu by truth4meal(m): 9:48am On Oct 08, 2012 |
redsun: The title will be "a becloude Nigerian views about survival instinct"so you are alive today because you have to genuine cause to die for abi? Wat the OP said is the truth look inward no man is infalliable - ask question, think, don't just dub skewed history, think - questions. If you can't ask questions can you at least answer the one he raised. |
Re: Somebody Needs To Write A Book On The Foolishness Of Biafra And Ojukwu by abes(m): 10:08am On Oct 08, 2012 |
gree-die: Seriously? A fact you cannot get from google or any text book but it's a fact because you pulled it out of your anus? 1 Like |
Re: Somebody Needs To Write A Book On The Foolishness Of Biafra And Ojukwu by ikeyman00(m): 10:16am On Oct 08, 2012 |
@@@@ why oh why do people open up post to write rubbish even we that lives in UK know how much role this country played out during that war op it never gona be as easy as opening up useless and meaningless thread like this one just do urself a favour and shut up plz |
Re: Somebody Needs To Write A Book On The Foolishness Of Biafra And Ojukwu by greedie1(f): 10:19am On Oct 08, 2012 |
abes:seriously?? U read all i wrote and dis is the only tin u could pick out? Dude, u are loosing it! D least u could Have done is try to strike back wit a baseless argument lyk others did. U think u know it all from ur little spot in d world? U think all answers can be found in textbooks nd google? I cant waste my time on you 2 Likes |
Re: Somebody Needs To Write A Book On The Foolishness Of Biafra And Ojukwu by aduboy(m): 10:29am On Oct 08, 2012 |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZeELnOiHAw&feature=related This is for those trying to cover up history, biafrans fought a war of self defence against a lager interest which is the British. The British had the resources of the then Biafra as their strategic interest and backed the then Nigerian government to achieve it. More small arms rounds were used in biafra war than the second world war. That explains the extent of atrocities committed against biafrans. It is left for the actors to apologize for the atrocities they committed. 1 Like |
Re: Somebody Needs To Write A Book On The Foolishness Of Biafra And Ojukwu by abes(m): 10:43am On Oct 08, 2012 |
gree-die: I didn't read the 'fact from your anus', sorry. |
Re: Somebody Needs To Write A Book On The Foolishness Of Biafra And Ojukwu by greedie1(f): 10:44am On Oct 08, 2012 |
aduboy:their sole aim was to eliminate the igbo race if not, why starve children who had nothing to do wit the war... They failed and they will stop at nothing to hang us, even if it means giving us a bad name.. I do not fear for my people, we are conquerors. I pity these tribes dat foster d white mans cause, they think the white man is their friend but by the time britain finishes wit dem, posterity wont even know their names.. The only reason why they still exist is us but dey have failed to realise that |
Re: Somebody Needs To Write A Book On The Foolishness Of Biafra And Ojukwu by ikeyman00(m): 10:46am On Oct 08, 2012 |
British Interests, Nigerian Tragedy Michael Leapman on cabinet papers that recall the starving children of the Biafran war BIAFRA was one of the great emotive causes of the late Sixties. The name still conjures up images of emaciated children, close to death, starved as a result of the blockade imposed by the Nigerian Federal Government to defeat the secession of the country's Eastern Region. I was there, and the images do not fade. yes una see am Britain, the former coloniser of Nigeria and its main supplier of arms, could not escape involvement. As the outcry over the famine grew, Harold Wilson's government came under attack at home and abroad for providing the weapons that tightened the noose on Biafra. pro corruption the joker u listing The war began in 1967. Cabinet papers for that year, just released, show how the decision to continue arming Nigeria was not based on arguments for or against secession, or on the interests of its people, but on backing the likely winner. It is a case study in realpolitik. As one Commonwealth Office briefing document to the prime minister put it: "The sole immediate British interest is to bring the [Nigerian] economy back to a condition in which our substantial trade and investment can be further developed." yes na oil abi [size=28pt]now ofenmma people listen and listen [/size] [size=28pt]The Biafran secession was the culmination of a long period of tribal and regional unrest in Nigeria that had come to the boil with the assassination in January 1966 of Sir Abubakar Tafawa Balewa, the Prime Minister, in a coup led by General Johnson Ironsi. The new military ruler was an Ibo, the dominant tribal group of the Eastern Region. In May that year, thousands of Ibos were massacred in the Northern Region in riots against Ironsi's regime. A further coup in July was led by Maj-Gen Yakubu Gowon. Fearful of renewed massacres, the Ibos of the East sought autonomy under their military governor, Col Odumegwu Ojukwu. He declared the region's independence, as the state of Biafra, in May 1967. As more recent conflicts in Eastern Europe show, it is hard to judge the rights and wrongs of other people's ethnic fears and hatreds. In any case, the cabinet papers make clear that right and wrong were the last considerations on anyone's mind. Oil, trade and the protection of British citizens dominated the decision-making process.[/size] If today's Foreign Secretary, Robin Cook, really wants to introduce an ethical basis for policy-making, he should read the file to see how radically he needs to change the diplomatic mindset. The bulk of Nigeria's foreign earnings derived from oil and most of it was in the Eastern Region. Shell-BP, then partly owned by the British government, was the largest producer. After secession, Col Ojukwu demanded that royalties for oil production should be paid to Biafra and not to the Federal Government. Shell agreed to make a "token payment" of £250,000. The Commonwealth Office at first proposed to support this decision on the grounds that Col Ojukwu was in de facto control of the oilfields. Harold Wilson bridled at that: "Dangerous argument - cf Rhodesia" he scrawled in the margin of the policy paper. Rhodesia unilaterally declared independence in 1965 but Britain was urging that nobody should recognise it, despite the regime's de facto control. Gen Gowon imposed a blockade on Biafra, which meant that no oil could be exported anyway. This was a blow for the British economy, already floundering in the crisis that led to devaluation later in the year. Now the prime object of Whitehall was to get the blockade lifted. An important lever fell into British hands when Gen Gowon asked for more arms: 12 jet fighter-bombers, six fast patrol boats, 24 anti-aircraft guns. George Thomas, Minister of State at the Commonwealth Office, was sent to Lagos. The Commonwealth Office note to Wilson about the mission was explicit: "If Gowon is helpful on oil, Mr Thomas will offer a sale of anti-aircraft guns.'' The plan went awry. Gen Gowon would not lift the blockade but he got his guns anyway; planes and boats were refused, but the Nigerians were permitted to take delivery of two previously ordered patrol boats - which ironically helped enforce the ban on Shell-BP's oil shipments. In August the Biafrans scored a military success (their only one, as it turned out) when they marched into the Mid-West Region and occupied Benin. This provoked a rethink in Whitehall. The Commonwealth Office set out five choices. A and B involved maintaining or increasing arms to Nigeria, C was to stop all supplies, D to promote a peace initiative and E a combination of the last two. Thomas wrote to Wilson, holidaying in the Scillies, recommending Option E. That view might have prevailed had not Sir David Hunt, British ambassador in Lagos and a keen advocate of the Federal cause, flown to Britain and persuaded the government to continue providing arms. Soon the war turned in Gowon's favour and in November the flexible Thomas wrote to Wilson again, proposing this time that arms supplies be stepped up: "It seems to me that British interests would now be served by a quick Federal victory." That victory came, but not quickly.During 1967 the words "famine" or "hunger" appeared nowhere in the hundreds of official documents devoted to the conflict. They would not emerge until 1968, when I and other reporters went to Biafra and witnessed the scenes for ourselves. By then the policy was too set to be altered. Too many reputations depended on the war's outcome. The conflict went on for another two years. Millions of children starved. How many would still be alive if that one slim chance had been grabbed back in August 1967 and Option E, E for ethical, had prevailed? - THE INDEPENDENT, SUNDAY 4 JANUARY 1998. (posted to Igbonet by Obi Taiwan) Source: http://andromeda.rutgers.edu/~nwosu/biaf2.html so after reading from all corners of the wall nevermind Achebe u seriously believe no atrocity has been committed right the truth is the only option that can set us free for good no point chewing amala and ewedu all over the place im afraid now who lose? aduboy This is for those trying to cover up history, biafrans fought a war of self defence against a lager interest which is the British. The British had the resources of the then Biafra as their strategic interest and backed the then Nigerian government to achieve it. More small arms rounds were used in biafra war than the second world war. That explains the extent of atrocities committed against biafrans. It is left for the actors to apologize for the atrocities they committed. correct!! case closed right from the £20 era |
Re: Somebody Needs To Write A Book On The Foolishness Of Biafra And Ojukwu by greedie1(f): 10:47am On Oct 08, 2012 |
abes:lol.... U fail to realise that my anus is smarter than your brain!!! |
Re: Somebody Needs To Write A Book On The Foolishness Of Biafra And Ojukwu by greedie1(f): 10:47am On Oct 08, 2012 |
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Re: Somebody Needs To Write A Book On The Foolishness Of Biafra And Ojukwu by ezotik: 11:28am On Oct 08, 2012 |
the igbos led by ojukwu were really foolish. they somehow thought they were going to win without support from their neighbours? hell, the ijaws their so-called closest cousins were not fully convinced and fought gallantly to see the demise of biafra and ‘abandoned properties’ in ph have still not been returned. even though ojukwu schooled in the uk and was trained by the brits, and with achebe's superior knowledge of the english language, they still failed to convince the british to support biafra? how is that not an all-round failure in the making? even cameroon blocked their border to biafra. where was achebe when this was happening? why didnt he use his brilliance and superior knowledge of the english langauage to negotiate with cameroon to open their borders? oh wait, the cameroonians dont give a shiit about the english langauge and only understand french. achebe should have mastered french instead of english language, it would have done biafra some good. 2 Likes |
Re: Somebody Needs To Write A Book On The Foolishness Of Biafra And Ojukwu by ikeyman00(m): 11:42am On Oct 08, 2012 |
^^^^ if anyone is foolish that should be u stop writing nonesense here plz |
Re: Somebody Needs To Write A Book On The Foolishness Of Biafra And Ojukwu by ezotik: 11:49am On Oct 08, 2012 |
ikeyman00: ^^^^ if anyone is foolish that should be u lol...a prof of english and cultural minister of biafra failed to convince the british for support. ha ha ha, thats an |
Re: Somebody Needs To Write A Book On The Foolishness Of Biafra And Ojukwu by ikeyman00(m): 12:05pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
^^^ the oracle has spoken envious hater |
Re: Somebody Needs To Write A Book On The Foolishness Of Biafra And Ojukwu by slimghost(m): 12:14pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
Somebody needs to write a book on the foolishness of Rossik and his father! 2 Likes |
Re: Somebody Needs To Write A Book On The Foolishness Of Biafra And Ojukwu by abes(m): 12:49pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
gree-die:lol..you are not the first person to reason with d anus, one fled to Abidjan. |
Re: Somebody Needs To Write A Book On The Foolishness Of Biafra And Ojukwu by ikeyman00(m): 12:58pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
@@@@ ^^^ then tell us the truth plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjKhzLrxcRM |
Re: Somebody Needs To Write A Book On The Foolishness Of Biafra And Ojukwu by warrior01: 1:06pm On Oct 08, 2012 |
PROUD-IGBO:You've said it all bro. |
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