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Re: Atheists Please Tell Us About Your Conversion And Deconversion Stories by wiegraf: 3:28am On Jan 10, 2013 |
musKeeto: PRE-CONVERSION What were the odds of listening to this while reading this post? heh http://www.youtube.com/watch?hl=en-GB&gl=NG&v=H8ZUV9IBEXY The insouciance of some people when dealing with issues related to religion can be puzzling. ie, when debating certain aspects like mortality, evil, etc. They seem to delude themselves into thinking they have the answers. My condolences Ah, lemme get out of the way... |
Re: Atheists Please Tell Us About Your Conversion And Deconversion Stories by Nobody: 3:37am On Jan 10, 2013 |
wiegraf:Lol.. stay in the way o.. the story never even start.. still on pre-conversion... |
Re: Atheists Please Tell Us About Your Conversion And Deconversion Stories by Nobody: 8:19am On Jan 10, 2013 |
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Re: Atheists Please Tell Us About Your Conversion And Deconversion Stories by Nobody: 8:45am On Jan 10, 2013 |
musKeeto: PRE-CONVERSION very interesting, will respond later this evening, work resumed fully today.. It's a small world, you will be surprised to know that my niece narrowly missed the Sosoliso accident, her cousin died, they both went to Loyola, suffice to say it was a dark period for many of us. speak later ! 1 Like |
Re: Atheists Please Tell Us About Your Conversion And Deconversion Stories by Nobody: 9:08am On Jan 10, 2013 |
wiegraf: waiting for yours, I dare you |
Re: Atheists Please Tell Us About Your Conversion And Deconversion Stories by Nobody: 9:11am On Jan 10, 2013 |
2good: very interesting, we will walk through this later, appears many of us where once Catholics and derailed either to the atheist side of life or other Christian denominations/experiences. Irrespective, I dare say we are all victims of our upbringing , environment and life experiences. Thanks ! 1 Like |
Re: Atheists Please Tell Us About Your Conversion And Deconversion Stories by Nobody: 9:13am On Jan 10, 2013 |
Logicboy03: Logicboy I see great hope and potential for you , not in religion, but in the discovery of the jewels of truth, not man-led but this time God-led. |
Re: Atheists Please Tell Us About Your Conversion And Deconversion Stories by Nobody: 9:14am On Jan 10, 2013 |
Delafruita: no, no , no. I want the full gist please |
Re: Atheists Please Tell Us About Your Conversion And Deconversion Stories by onetrack(m): 9:15am On Jan 10, 2013 |
I often say I was a 'born-atheist' because I cannot think of a time where I ever really believed in any religion. However, given my upbringing, I did accept the notion of God. My parents were not really devout though I was forced to go to church. I found the whole experience fake and boring, and I would sneak in books to read during the sermon. My mother tolerated this. Then when I was 16 my mother told me that she would no longer force me to go. I stopped going IMMEDIATELY and never went back. At university I looked into other religions and found them just as uninspiring, though I at least admired Buddha for not claiming to be a god, a son of a god, or a prophet. What made me an atheist, however, was reading the Bible and the Quran. The God portrayed in those books has way too much evil (as well as making some dumb mistakes) for me to accept as a God. In addition, reading other books like "God is not Great" and "the God Delusion" made me think that atheists make a more convincing argument. In recent years this has been strengthened by looking at internet websites like reddit. 3 Likes |
Re: Atheists Please Tell Us About Your Conversion And Deconversion Stories by Nobody: 2:50pm On Jan 10, 2013 |
Keep 'em coming |
Re: Atheists Please Tell Us About Your Conversion And Deconversion Stories by cyrexx: 3:58pm On Jan 10, 2013 |
Hmmm. This is gonna be interesting. But I wonder why frosbel, the number one accuser of my atheist brethren, is interested in our deconversion story, its sort of a negative christian testimony, you know, and it wont edify any christian. Just wondering |
Re: Atheists Please Tell Us About Your Conversion And Deconversion Stories by Nobody: 4:05pm On Jan 10, 2013 |
cyrexx: Hmmm.Lol.. My broda, no be only you dey fear o... But the stories could help inquisitive folks and 'dolts' alike... I doubt atheists on NL know how many 'guests' and background 'users' our posts influence... |
Re: Atheists Please Tell Us About Your Conversion And Deconversion Stories by Nobody: 4:05pm On Jan 10, 2013 |
[quote author=cyrexx] I do not have a grudge against atheists, most of our debates and arguments here are just friendly banter , though sometimes they can be heated and harsh on a bad day at work But honestly, there has to be a reason why atheists are put off religion altogether, probably bad experiences with family members who professed to follow GOD but acted like the devil, wars, misunderstanding of scripture, strange religious doctrines and practices etc. its sort of a negative christian testimony, you know, and it wont edify any christian. I also had some negative Christian testimonies which can be viewed in Anony's thread on born again experiences' , to be quite honest my faith was almost totally derailed , if not for the mercy and grace of GOD. Let's have yours please |
Re: Atheists Please Tell Us About Your Conversion And Deconversion Stories by Odunnu: 4:31pm On Jan 10, 2013 |
Re: Atheists Please Tell Us About Your Conversion And Deconversion Stories by Nobody: 4:36pm On Jan 10, 2013 |
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Re: Atheists Please Tell Us About Your Conversion And Deconversion Stories by Nobody: 4:36pm On Jan 10, 2013 |
Odunnu:Lol, Madam this one your eye dey shine like this.. |
Re: Atheists Please Tell Us About Your Conversion And Deconversion Stories by honeychild(f): 4:48pm On Jan 10, 2013 |
@musKeeto why you stop na? This story is just too interesting....pls continue pls pls pretty pls.. |
Re: Atheists Please Tell Us About Your Conversion And Deconversion Stories by Nobody: 4:59pm On Jan 10, 2013 |
musKeeto: PRE-CONVERSIONWHAT IS THE SOSOLISO PLANE CRASH ? |
Re: Atheists Please Tell Us About Your Conversion And Deconversion Stories by Heatblast(m): 5:49pm On Jan 10, 2013 |
1. Your conversion story We were catholics at first, later became RCCG members. Gave my life to christ at a tender age(out of fear of hell) but back then, I loved it cause I seemed to like the gosple stories and gosple music, and I had a new friend(now I know it was an imaginary friend) 2. Experiences in the church/mosque I never did like going to church, but my mom always forced us to go every sunday and atleast once during the week even after coming back from a long day in school, it always made me .. But I'll always comfort myself that "I was doing it for god" 3. Duration as believer 7yrs of lies and fear 4. When and why you began to lose faith. It all started one day(during one of my long vacs in secondary school), I was home alone dying of boredom, so I decided to pray fervently for 'NEPA' to bring light, after about 2hrs of continious prayer with no result(light), I gave my self the usual excuse that maybe god didn't want to answer my prayer to prevent impending danger, so I decided to pick up my bible and read, I started with Genesis, Exodus, read a little bit of them and moved on to Leviticus, after reading some parts of this book, I began to see a contradiction to the new testament all loving god, he seemed to kill for virtually no reason at all, gave the isrealites absolutely ridiculous laws, at a point I had to close the bible, because my mind had started to ask different questions and I've been brainwashed to never question god or the bible. But my curiosity seemed to be stronger than the brainwashing, so the next day, I forced myself to read other books of the bible and saw a lot of contradictions to the god I previously thought I knew(no wonder they don't read those books in the church instead they say its the mosiac laws, but they'll readily quote leveticus when it comes to tithing).. During this period I was also intrested in science stuff, always went to to school lib to read science books, this books also helped to increase my curiosity, tho I always skipped pages on evolution and condemed darwin and his theory as agents of the devil. 5. Your deconversion story. It took me almost 3years of information gathering, constant study and questioning of the bible to re-program my mind. upon all I prayed for the curiosity to dissappear, It had already gotten to a stage, where I couldn't stop my mind from thinking about my faith, I finally became agnostic atheist 2 years ago. They told me I couldn't make it without jesus, prayer, or religion. But today, all that is a big fat lie thank 'god' I'm totally free from and immune to the bondage called christianity Big thanks to every thing that increased my view of life including all the science books, websites like narialand(cause I've been viewing as a guest before I finally registered in 2008,) all the science stations including discovery, history, nat geographic for programmes like 'Mankind: the story of all of us' and others... Most especially google for the usefullness of the search engine. 3 Likes |
Re: Atheists Please Tell Us About Your Conversion And Deconversion Stories by Ishilove: 5:56pm On Jan 10, 2013 |
obadiah777: WHAT IS THE SOSOLISO PLANE CRASH ?Google is your friend |
Re: Atheists Please Tell Us About Your Conversion And Deconversion Stories by Nobody: 6:10pm On Jan 10, 2013 |
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Re: Atheists Please Tell Us About Your Conversion And Deconversion Stories by Nobody: 6:12pm On Jan 10, 2013 |
Ishilove:LOL. JUST DID. WOW. THE ONLY SURVIVOR http://naijaura.com/wordpress/facial-reconstruction-fundraiser-for-only-survivor-of-the-sosoliso-air-crash-in-2005/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sosoliso_Airlines_Flight_1145 CONDOLENCES TO ALL WHO LOST FAMILY. CONDOLENCES TO YA MUSKEETO AND FROSBEL |
Re: Atheists Please Tell Us About Your Conversion And Deconversion Stories by cold(m): 6:27pm On Jan 10, 2013 |
First,a devout Christian. Then a sceptic & then agnostic....now a full blown atheist,i think. Will post my story later |
Re: Atheists Please Tell Us About Your Conversion And Deconversion Stories by Ishilove: 6:46pm On Jan 10, 2013 |
Wow Muskeeto, your narration is rather captivating. There's a storyteller in you. 1 Like |
Re: Atheists Please Tell Us About Your Conversion And Deconversion Stories by Nobody: 6:49pm On Jan 10, 2013 |
Ishilove: Wow Muskeeto, your narration is rather captivating. There's a storyteller in you.Coming from a 'literature section' guru, this is more than a compliment.. We have a holiday tomorrow, so may post my deconversion before I sleep.. skyping things now sha.. |
Re: Atheists Please Tell Us About Your Conversion And Deconversion Stories by Ishilove: 7:01pm On Jan 10, 2013 |
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Re: Atheists Please Tell Us About Your Conversion And Deconversion Stories by wiegraf: 7:10pm On Jan 10, 2013 |
frosbel: Mine is nothing special, and told before. But since I'm vain and like to think the world revolves around me, here it is again Never really religious. Never prayed 5x a day, never fasted the full 30, etc. They even killed a goat in my honor for memorizing what I thought was gibberish, but a year or two later I could remember maybe only fatiha (which I can't remember now sef) and some special cheat surahs/prayers. You know? Like the ones that could fast track you to heaven? I also did have a bit of the 'I can always repent, or go to hajj' mentality. I reasoned I could do little sins with abandon and make up for them later. Surely god wouldn't be that petty, no? But generally, I just never was religious. I've never really bought into the concept, fear was the only connection I had to it. A thing of note though with my story was the final nail in the coffin, so to speak. I have always been douchie, and frankly I can't say I was aware of raw, unconditional love us mere mortals are capable of until an altruist demonstrated this to me. At tremendous personal cost no less. My assumption was we're all d**ks, sky men included. The evidence seemed to be clearly heading in that direction; all of us d**ks just trying to get to heaven. Granted the odd fo.ol or sheeple that was useful only as a door mat existed, but they could be ignored as silly abberations. For most of us it was about pleasing an (usually angry) god, any one of them, the smart thing to do. Concerning ourselves only with our own petty self preservation. Society seemed to encourage this so surely it was ok, no? Who wants to be the f.ool that's left behind, hmmm? They'll probably laugh at me from heaven while I roast, "silly wiegraf, I told him so. Look at that fo.ol burn". The kindness though of said person made me realize, "hmmm, there are genuinely kind and altruistic people who would die for total strangers on this planet? Interesting. And here I am being a full time d**k". As I was never really a theist and was just being held back by fear, the bravery of altruists to do what is right regardless of repurcursion, personal injury, loss etc, finally gave me the courage to fully question religious beliefs, dogma, etc. And once I got by the fear their cases were paper thin at best. For instance, when I compare a mere mortals actions with those of a supposed omnipotent that does naught about evil, I have to wonder to myself, wtf? The problem of evil becomes too conspicuous to ignore. Other issues I'd been ignoring became unavoidable as well of course. Irony to all this being the main person that inspired my last step is religious. He didn't grow up in a religious household though, so his altruism is probably in built. And his actions were not based on some sort of religious obligation. Religion or no, that's just the nature of many of us. We don't have to be d**ks it seems. Looking back now though it's rather clear I've come across many others like him, just never noticed. The official story being whispered into my ears was one of petty hate, and this was indeed aided by religion for me. I'm personally very glad to have gotten rid of that 5 Likes |
Re: Atheists Please Tell Us About Your Conversion And Deconversion Stories by UyiIredia(m): 7:13pm On Jan 10, 2013 |
Muskeeto's deconversion story is rather lengthy. |
Re: Atheists Please Tell Us About Your Conversion And Deconversion Stories by Nobody: 7:17pm On Jan 10, 2013 |
Uyi Iredia: Muskeeto's deconversion story is rather lengthy.A pant as to come along and spoil my chance at stardom... |
Re: Atheists Please Tell Us About Your Conversion And Deconversion Stories by Nobody: 7:20pm On Jan 10, 2013 |
@weigraf: I still wonder why it's difficult for most theists to understand that one cane be 'good/altruistic' for the sake of being good. I was always sort of that person, and when I became Christian, that disdn't change much. I put my tithes to much better use, and also ran some computer classes for the 'youth' group members for a while from my own pocket.... I read mazaje's spag theory recently and I tend to concur with it. |
Re: Atheists Please Tell Us About Your Conversion And Deconversion Stories by Nobody: 7:30pm On Jan 10, 2013 |
Wow. This just happened to show up on my followers list and it captured my attention. I had wanted to ask you what led to your convertion before the YM correspondence thing died. wiegraf: You were never a Muslim.........just a follower of rules....... 1 Like |
Re: Atheists Please Tell Us About Your Conversion And Deconversion Stories by Nobody: 7:39pm On Jan 10, 2013 |
WIEGRAF I WOULDNT PUT YOU DOWN FOR SOMEONE FROM A MUSLIM HOUSEHOLD. I WOULD PUT YOU DOWN FOR SOMEONE FROM A FREE-THINKING HOUSEHOLD. ABSTRACT. 1 Like |
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