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Re: A Layman's Question About The Multiverse Theory? by Nobody: 4:09pm On Jan 17, 2013 |
Mr_Anony: I never said that the multiverse is true and so, how can it be "mulitverse of the gaps"? I have always maintained that it is a hypothesis! Not a theory based tangible evidence! You ask how it can be compatible with the big bang (if it were true)and I give you a time in the big bang, in which we dont know what happened- which people believe that universes could have existed in that time. After giving you the explanation you then complain that "we dont know" or "anything could have happened" is not a way to say that it is compatible with a theory!! How are you not reetarded for that? Where does a hypothesis start from? Furthermore you should read up on wormholes as a hypothesis. They answer you question very well |
Re: A Layman's Question About The Multiverse Theory? by Nobody: 4:10pm On Jan 17, 2013 |
Mr_Anony: Seriously? You are encouraging Reyginald with his foolishness? You have no shame or morals |
Re: A Layman's Question About The Multiverse Theory? by MrAnony1(m): 4:12pm On Jan 17, 2013 |
Logicboy03:If there is no boundary between any two entities, how can we say that they are distinct from each other? Do other universes exist intermingled with ours? If so, why can't we observe them? how do we know that they are particles from another universe? Secondly, the moment you talk about distances between any two universes, you have referred to space between them. How can this be true if space itself originated from the big bang? |
Re: A Layman's Question About The Multiverse Theory? by Nobody: 4:14pm On Jan 17, 2013 |
Logicboy03:Reyginus please. |
Re: A Layman's Question About The Multiverse Theory? by MrAnony1(m): 4:15pm On Jan 17, 2013 |
Logicboy03:Abeg commot for road joor. Anything that doesn't agree with you is "foolishness". How can you talk about distance if there is no space? |
Re: A Layman's Question About The Multiverse Theory? by Nobody: 4:20pm On Jan 17, 2013 |
*Thinking* who knows what that boy is typing now* |
Re: A Layman's Question About The Multiverse Theory? by MrAnony1(m): 4:22pm On Jan 17, 2013 |
mazaje: Anony on the other thread dropped the testimony of a doctor who claimed to have gone to heaven on the soul thread. . .The guy claimed there are is a multi universe when he visited heaven. . .He claimed he was shown that in heaven. . .He says that there are other universes, with less "evil" then ours, and that some are more technologically advanced. He is talking about how we are one of many universes with people living in it, and that our Earth, is a unique one spiriually in that it has more evil in it. However, if any of the other universes had people in them and anyone who had committed any sin, they would need a saviour. Would god also send his son through the process of being guilty for the world more then once again? Would he be able to go back to his position as a man on other planets as a physical body when his real body was up in heaven as the conquering king who had overcome sin and death, who held the keys of death and hades? He also tosses out that evil was made so that there could be free will. What does the bible say about other universes, and the things this man mentions? Does it line up with what is written in the bible?. . Not just the feelings of love and all the nice sounding stuff, but the actual ideas presented in his account. Does anony believe in the guy's(Dr. Eben Alexander) multi verse claim?. . .red herring: eben alexander's story and whether I believe it or not is irrelevant to this thread.....I am not favouring either position on this thread. My contention is simply that the big bang theory and the multiverse theory are not compatible. If you think they are, show it if not, go scratch your itch somewhere else. |
Re: A Layman's Question About The Multiverse Theory? by Nobody: 4:24pm On Jan 17, 2013 |
Mr_Anony: 1) What is in between the earth and mars? What is between our solar system and other solar system? Space. You need space for that distance, you trave through space. Now, how do you know that you're in another universe? The gravitational pull is different? the time-space relationship is a bit different? Aging has slowed down? When you go into hypotheticals, anything is possible. 2) And the seconds immediately after the big bang? |
Re: A Layman's Question About The Multiverse Theory? by MrAnony1(m): 4:29pm On Jan 17, 2013 |
cyrexx:Yawn.....your poster is one of the most braven celebrations of ignorance I've seen so far. Commot for road make I pass joor. |
Re: A Layman's Question About The Multiverse Theory? by Nobody: 4:33pm On Jan 17, 2013 |
Logicboy03:Lololol. 1. We know space to be between the planets. That is easy even for the toddlers in science. As logical as you can get, you didnt see why it should it be so or you enjoy adorning the god of retardation with pretty laurels? The universe came with the big ba.ng right? With it came space. So what are you all about. Oh! Oh! Are you comparing the planets and your universes? 2. I don't follow. |
Re: A Layman's Question About The Multiverse Theory? by Nobody: 4:36pm On Jan 17, 2013 |
Reyginus: Lololol. Use your brain 2) And the seconds immediately after the big slam? |
Re: A Layman's Question About The Multiverse Theory? by Nobody: 4:38pm On Jan 17, 2013 |
Just to remind the reetard reyginius; I gave two answers -wormholes -distance, no boundaries |
Re: A Layman's Question About The Multiverse Theory? by Nobody: 4:39pm On Jan 17, 2013 |
Logicboy03:I'm trying to. You can still help me out if you think I'm not using it properly. |
Re: A Layman's Question About The Multiverse Theory? by Nobody: 4:49pm On Jan 17, 2013 |
Logicboy03: Just to remind the reetard reyginius;A wormhole is any hole created by worms.:-). Joke aside. 1. Mr logic, for a wormhole to exist, time and space dimensions must be present. 2. Still stubborn. Okay. Ponder on this question. Is it possible for their to be no boundary where their is distance? Seen how contradictory you come? |
Re: A Layman's Question About The Multiverse Theory? by MrAnony1(m): 4:53pm On Jan 17, 2013 |
Logicboy03:good. for the first time you are beginning to think. . .however I hope you do realize that you are not proposing a multiverse rather you are proposing a model of the universe where multiple cosmological constants apply in different areas of the same space. This would also contradict the big bang because the universe could not possibly have expanded while simultaneously respecting multiple cosmological constants. It would mean that if for instance the gravitational constant had 10 different values (very very conservative number) acting at the same time, the singularity couldn't have expanded (or contracted) at the same time at 10 different simultaneous rates i.e. nothing would have banged. or maybe there was no singularity but a multiplicity all banging separately to separate cosmological constants. This would literally mean multiple universes 'far apart' because if they are 'close together' and all expand the same space, then we won't have any coherent laws of nature acting on things. They will all be jumbled up within the same realm. or maybe after the big bang, multiple other bangs took place within the universe but then the laws that will govern their 'banging' would be determined by the nature laws dominating the universe that they are banging in. So they won't result in another universe and will be a mere explosion within the present universe. Either way you look at it, your multiverse explanation doesn't sit well with the big bang theory. When you go into hypotheticals, anything is possible. Not really, it must be logically coherent. 2) And the seconds immediately after the big bang?What about them? |
Re: A Layman's Question About The Multiverse Theory? by Nobody: 5:01pm On Jan 17, 2013 |
Mr_Anony: Everything in bold is bullshyt! Sorry, if you feel like talking nonsense, play with Reyginius. WTF is this; I hope you do realize that you are not proposing a multiverse rather you are proposing a model of the universe where multiple cosmological constants apply in different areas of the same space. or WTF is this It would mean that if for instance the gravitational constant had 10 different values (very very conservative number) acting at the same time, the singularity couldn't have expanded (or contracted) at the same time at 10 different simultaneous rates i.e. nothing would have banged. If you want to pull things out of your azz, go do it elsewhere |
Re: A Layman's Question About The Multiverse Theory? by MrAnony1(m): 5:07pm On Jan 17, 2013 |
Logicboy03:Wow! you have just exposed your ignorance......and to think that I thought that you had some vague idea of what you were discussing about! smh |
Re: A Layman's Question About The Multiverse Theory? by Nobody: 5:09pm On Jan 17, 2013 |
Mr_Anony: and to think that I thought that you had some vague idea of what you were discussing about! smhLololol. This almost gave me a stomach ache. |
Re: A Layman's Question About The Multiverse Theory? by cyrexx: 5:54pm On Jan 17, 2013 |
Mr_Anony: LOL, and your op question is one the most dubious and silly I've seen recently. Abeg, shift go one side jare. Your anonysm tactics of asking silly questions has been detected and defused. |
Re: A Layman's Question About The Multiverse Theory? by mazaje(m): 5:54pm On Jan 17, 2013 |
Mr_Anony: It is very relevant to this topic. . .You gave his testimony on another thread as evidence of the soul and life after death because he stated that he went to heaven. In his testimony he stated that in heaven he was shown that there is a multiverse by god and his guide in heaven. . .Do you believe that his story is true?. . .This topic is about multi verse, no?. . . |
Re: A Layman's Question About The Multiverse Theory? by advocate666: 7:01pm On Jan 17, 2013 |
It is a pity that such an interesting topic has been turned into a to and fro of "you don't know but I haven't got a clue." The theory of the big bang raises many questions and that of multiverse is still in imaginations. But that is us humans. We imagine things and test them. When you start really thinking about it, the big bang makes no sense in a single universe. The big bang can only make sense when applied to a multiverse system. Mr Anony asks what is between universes? This question supposes that there is "something" known to and understood by us, between these verses. Have you considered that there may actually be something between verses that are nothing like what we know? Have you considered scenarios where there is "nothing" between the verses? Like two rooms with a sliding door separating them; when this door is open, we still have two rooms but nothing between them. Another hypothesis is that there actually is a single infinite universe without beginning. Just space with a lot of things in it going on forever. Imagine some of these "things" in it exploding (BANGG!) from time to time. And these explosions destroying what was there previously and "creating" new things, like galaxies, planets etc. And imagine that we are inside one of these explosions. Even this theory of a singular infinite universe eventually leads to multiverse because in space, there is a finite number of ways in which objects can be arranged. This means that within a given space, after all possible arrangements have been exhausted, any new arrangement in another space will be an exact copy of one of the arrangements in the previous space. Thus, it could be that right now, there are trillions of Advocate666 writing exactly this same thing in response to trillions of Mr_Anony in trillions of multiverses. The magic of infinity. |
Re: A Layman's Question About The Multiverse Theory? by Nobody: 7:09pm On Jan 17, 2013 |
advocate666: It is a pity that such an interesting topic has been turned into a to and fro of "you don't know but I haven't got a clue." Anony has no idea what he is asking about. I gave him answers that he didnt expect. The distance hypothesis was just something i formed on my own....he then goes to pull nonsense out of his azzhole to claim that my hypothesis isnt logical. Note how he evaded the wormhole hypothesis as well. Anony made this thread so that he could trip atheists on some difficult question he found on his apologist research. Just like Frosble's thread, it misfired |
Re: A Layman's Question About The Multiverse Theory? by thehomer: 7:25pm On Jan 17, 2013 |
Mr_Anony: The counter isn't necessarily the concept of the multiverse, but that the universe had to have some values. Now if you're assuming that those values are that way just for humans come on the scene, then that is simply a lot of hubris and an example of puddle thinking. Mr_Anony: That isn't contradictory if you allow that between universes, there is no space. Even if we assume that there's only this universe, one cannot say that it is expanding into space. Mr_Anony: The problem with the theist's idea is talking about a mind that exists without time and space. Our knowledge of minds don't simply allow for such concepts. Or do you wish to claim that your God exists in the void between the various universes? |
Re: A Layman's Question About The Multiverse Theory? by cyrexx: 7:40pm On Jan 17, 2013 |
Thehomer dear thehomer, where have you been? We miss you around here. |
Re: A Layman's Question About The Multiverse Theory? by thehomer: 7:49pm On Jan 17, 2013 |
cyrexx: Thehomer dear thehomer, I've just been a bit busy though I'm freer now so I can engage more with the numerous theists here. |
Re: A Layman's Question About The Multiverse Theory? by cyrexx: 8:02pm On Jan 17, 2013 |
thehomer: Good to know and I am really happy to hear this from you. |
Re: A Layman's Question About The Multiverse Theory? by truthislight: 8:44pm On Jan 17, 2013 |
baby atheist says: Dady cyrexx: Thehomer dear thehomer, and Dady atheist says thehomer: it makes no difference. Btw. Good to see therhomer, after a long time though. |
Re: A Layman's Question About The Multiverse Theory? by truthislight: 8:46pm On Jan 17, 2013 |
and baby atheist is happy and all smiles cyrexx: one happy family. |
Re: A Layman's Question About The Multiverse Theory? by cyrexx: 9:17pm On Jan 17, 2013 |
^^ @truthislight, hahaha now that is just funny |
Re: A Layman's Question About The Multiverse Theory? by MrAnony1(m): 10:06pm On Jan 17, 2013 |
Reyginus: Lololol. This almost gave me a stomach ache.It is just sad because that was one post where I actually tried to understand him. I felt he had really touched on something and was trying to articulate it but just didn't know how to say it properly. Little did I know that he had absolutely no idea what he was talking about. |
Re: A Layman's Question About The Multiverse Theory? by MrAnony1(m): 10:11pm On Jan 17, 2013 |
cyrexx:Lolololol.............isn't it funny how you shout "anonyism" anytime a difficult question is posed at you? My dear cyrexx, there are some things that you are ignorant about. A person does not automatically become "dubious" just because he/she asked a question that exposed such ignorance on your part. |
Re: A Layman's Question About The Multiverse Theory? by MrAnony1(m): 10:15pm On Jan 17, 2013 |
mazaje:Red herring. Irrelevant to this thread. |
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