ckkris:

The Bible has consistently trumped its Jewish antagonisers. In 33 AD over 80% of the Sanhedrin were against the few Jews that believed the Bible. Today you are witness that Israel is helped by the USA, founded and sustained by genuine believers in the Bible.

You will find that america was founded on racism, slavery and populated originally with criminals. Furthermore, some of the founding fathers were Deists.

The US constitution is a secular document

poopli:

this is because of immigration of people and civilization of people and not because of xtianity. USA helps alot of country too.

Thanks for this rare sincerity.

Logicboy03:


You will find that america was founded on racism, slavery and populated originally with criminals. Furthermore, some of the founding fathers were Deists.

The US constitution is a secular document

The US Constitution was made secular in order accommadate freedom of speech and worship, especially to accommodate people like Logicboy, Ifeness, etc. You'll all agree that atheist nations imprison and kill anyone that's theist.

ckkris:

The US Constitution was made secular in order accommadate freedom of speech and worship, especially to accommodate people like Logicboy, Ifeness, etc. You'll all agree that atheist nations imprison and kill anyone that's theist.

Heard of Japan and Sweden?

ckkris:

The US Constitution was made secular in order accommadate freedom of speech and worship, especially to accommodate people like Logicboy, Ifeness, etc. You'll all agree that atheist nations imprison and kill anyone that's theist.

atheist nations give freedom of worship

Mr_Anony:
Are you saying that God Himself brought sin into the world or that sin came as a result of man's actions?

Unless you are saying God is confused, and is not all knowing as is claimed, he should have known that the creation he is about to create and give free -will can not always do his bidding, so why the fuss and threat about throwing people into hell and making them suffer eternal damnation. Is he that bored and savege at thesame time.
From the argument, it appears the all powerful god can't even make the human spirit or soul(according to the christian afterlife concept) seize to exist unless of course he makes the suffer eternally in hell and turn the ones in heaven into some human music box and slaves. His power only shows where toture and enslavement reigns not where it matters. No wonder people are begining to see through his God farcade.

ooman:

atheist nations give freedom of worship

Just like Cuba, China, North Korea, etc

Logicboy03:



Heard of Japan and Sweden?

Shintoism isn't atheism.

daylae:

Christianity has no business in proving anything about God, conforming to the premise of logic,because logic itself is handicap in such capacity. The concept of "seeing is believing" is out of place. That's why atheists have failed woefully in disproving the existence of God,all you are left with is the philosophy of doubt. The reason you earnestly find answers, and unrelenting.


You have no choice but to conclude the bible is a difficult book,and that's because of your ingenuity in reading it.


Your own understanding.

You sure know what you think you know. But it is not about your familiarity with its contents,but understanding it. And knowing the bible doesn't make one a christian. Even theologians wouldn't make such claim.

This is exactly where I always have problem with religion, christians and muslims alike.
It tend to view critical thinking and the empirical evidence of science and history as the characteristics of a bad christian or muslim. If anything, it helps you understand better your purpose in Life. Telling an intelligent person with an impulsive critical thought process to limit himself just so they can accommodate the unprovable teneths of a faith is pure brainwashing and mind-program. Adherent have to think in a pre-defined set of ethos to ascertain what constitute a universal truth. The moment any adherent refuses to be subjected to any predefined system of belief to ascertain the truth, he is seen as a heretic that has given in to satan.

Like seriously, what has such ways of limiting people's intellectual journey to the truth gained for the church? Revolts, people feeling used, regrets, shock and eternal suspicion of the church or religions motives for the restrictions in the first place.
Do you know how disappointed I felt the first time I came to the realization that afterall, I might not be a believing christian again with all these lies, outright fabrications, concealed truth, outright denial, pius forgeries and holy denial all in an effort to continue to control people and rival other religious sect.
It is even more appaling when you now realize that many of the clergy have come to the realization of this liebut are too kneel deep, making a living out of this lie, that it will seem self-destructive if they went out with all honesty and confess that, all they are doing is continue a life-long lie that has been made a truth at the expence of human lives and properties.
Learning the truth does not stop you from believing in anything if you are convinced but it gives you a peace of mind that you know the truth not as set out for you to see by religious fraudstar but by the proof of tangible and concrete facts that can not be easily refuted or dismissed.

Wow!!!

ckkris:

Shintoism isn't atheism.

Wow, what a failed reply

bump for sunday!

God is too great to be elusive. If he exist, man would have found him!!