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Re: 12-year-old Caned For Wearing Hijab Out Of Class by probsolver: 9:20pm On Feb 24, 2013 |
Dudugirl01: My aunty is an aSSiStant head teacher in lagoS State, and a union member at that, from what She told me,in that particular school,all religious apparelS are banned in that particular school, be it Christian,Islamic or trado, according to my aunt,the said principal is an old woman and just caned the girl twice! I wonder why this is being blown out of proportion, if it were a christian that was beaten, I bet this wouldn't have been newS oo! And beSides, I'm Sure none of our religions preaches diSobedience tO higher authority, but if indeed she was flogged 43 times which I very much doubt,diSciplinary actions should be taken against her Its a lie some of the students of the school confirmed it and even when the WOMAN and d girl were interviewed by tutor general she said she intend given her just six cane but wheb she didn't stay to have it gently that was what make it to be up 43. Get ur fact right either u or ur aunt som1 s lying. |
Re: 12-year-old Caned For Wearing Hijab Out Of Class by ckkris: 9:30pm On Feb 24, 2013 |
probsolver: This is INCOHERENT. |
Re: 12-year-old Caned For Wearing Hijab Out Of Class by Cypost: 11:32pm On Feb 24, 2013 |
43 strokes haba! This part report I suspect was highly exaggerated And nobody have heard from the other party yet pple a shouting blue murder here. Is always good to balance report to avoid unnecessary bickering |
Re: 12-year-old Caned For Wearing Hijab Out Of Class by AnE1(f): 11:40pm On Feb 24, 2013 |
LagosShia:. Oga, what brought her to Lagos? Is Lagos ur fathers house or is Lagos an islamic state? In as much as I don't appreciate her choice of action, I'll d rather u dnt use ur last choice of words or phrase |
Re: 12-year-old Caned For Wearing Hijab Out Of Class by Toneyo(m): 1:12am On Feb 25, 2013 |
Hmm. 43 strokes of cane for 12 years old. I don't think so. When I was in secodary school back then in the 90s to 2000, my muslims mates dont put hijabs or caps until after school hrs. That can only be done in the school mosque after closing hr. The girl might be canned but I dont think 43 strokes. You cant just believe everything the media says. They are good at making us believing everything they say is true. |
Re: 12-year-old Caned For Wearing Hijab Out Of Class by Nobody: 6:32am On Feb 25, 2013 |
Toneyo: Hmm. 43 strokes of cane for 12 years old. I don't think so. When I was in secodary school back then in the 90s to 2000, my muslims mates dont put hijabs or caps until after school hrs.Why are people finding it so hard to believe that a 12yr old was caned 43 times? It is possible o, I have seen a case where a girl of similar age was beaten like that by her mother. |
Re: 12-year-old Caned For Wearing Hijab Out Of Class by babaireti(m): 1:36pm On Feb 25, 2013 |
babyosisi: There are two sides to every story You are in the USA ,no wonder why ur comment is devoid of reality,if you want to know the truth ,then come down to Nigeria and see things the way it happened. |
Re: 12-year-old Caned For Wearing Hijab Out Of Class by Dudugirl01(f): 9:47pm On Feb 25, 2013 |
Guy,I have no reason to lie, I just told what I heard, were u d one that confirmed the 43 strokes of cane? Were u there when they were interviewed? probsolver: |
Re: 12-year-old Caned For Wearing Hijab Out Of Class by daviesore: 9:36am On Feb 28, 2013 |
probesolver, your comment lacks reasoning. she intended 6 strokes but when she did not stay that makes it up to 43. what is the sense in your fact you claimed to have got. |
Re: 12-year-old Caned For Wearing Hijab Out Of Class by daviesore: 2:37pm On Feb 28, 2013 |
please do not move from the main issue. 1. the girl used Hijab in School at what time? 2. is the use of Hijab a criminal offence? 3. DOES THE USE OF HIJAB POSE ANY MORAL THREAT TO THE SCHOOL AND ALL OTHER STUDENTS? 4. IS THE USE OF CANE ALLOWED IN SCHOOL, IF YES AT WHAT LEVEL OF OFFENCE? 5. IF THIS GIRL WAS CAUGHT HAVING SEX IN THE SCHOOL(AS WE WITNESSED IN MANY GOV. SCHOOL) WILL SHE BE HUMILIATED LIKE THAT? 6. the principal saw her and called an emergency assembly,WHY? IS IT TO BRAND HER A TERRORIST, CREATE FEAR IN HER AGAINST ISLAM, CREATE FEAR IN OTHER STUDENTS? 7. WHY WAS SHE PUBLICLY FLOGGED IF NOT FOR HATRED? 8. WHAT MORAL LESSON DID THE PRINCIPAL SIGNALED TO OTHER STUDENTS AND TEACHERS AS WELL? COME TO THINK OF IT: IN MAJORITY OF OUR SO CALLED GOVERNMENT SCHOOLS, 1 CHRISTIANS CONDUCT ASSEMBLY FOR 4 DAY AND MUSLIMS 1 DAY 2. CHRISTIAN TEACHERS ARE MAJORITY WITH EVANGELISM MANDATE AT ANY COST; 3. MAJORITY OF OUR HOLIDAYS ARE PROGRAMMED WITH CHRISTIAN CALENDER AND AGENDA; 4. MUSLIMS ARE VICTIMIZED BECAUSE WE HAVE NOBODY IN AUTHORITY TO SPEAK FOR US; 5. BOTH SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS ARE REGARDED AS WEEKENDS BASED ON CHRISTIAN AGENDA; 6. WE ALL KNOW HOW SATURDAY BECAME A WORK FREE DAY; 7. THE MEDIA IS DOMINATED BY CHRISTIANS WITH ISLAM AS TARGET OF ATTACK AND HATRED 8. CHRISTIANS PREACHES LOVE OF MUSLIMS IN PUBLIC BUT FILLED THEIR HEARTS AND MINDS WITH HATRED AND DESTRUCTION OF MUSLIMS IN THE CHURCH. 9. 'NIGERIA FOR CHRIST BY YEAR 2000' CRUSADE NOW LEADING TO BH INVENTION AND THE SHOUT FOR SPLITTING OF THE COUNTRY HAVE SUCCESSFULLY USED THE MEDIA TO PROJECT THAT CHRISTIANS DOMINATE THE WEST. |
Re: 12-year-old Caned For Wearing Hijab Out Of Class by daviesore: 2:43pm On Feb 28, 2013 |
please do not move from the main issue. 1. the girl used Hijab in School at what time? 2. is the use of Hijab a criminal offence? 3. DOES THE USE OF HIJAB POSE ANY MORAL THREAT TO THE SCHOOL AND ALL OTHER STUDENTS? 4. IS THE USE OF CANE ALLOWED IN SCHOOL, IF YES AT WHAT LEVEL OF OFFENCE? 5. IF THIS GIRL WAS CAUGHT HAVING SEX IN THE SCHOOL(AS WE WITNESSED IN MANY GOV. SCHOOL) WILL SHE BE HUMILIATED LIKE THAT? 6. the principal saw her and called an emergency assembly,WHY? IS IT TO BRAND HER A TERRORIST, CREATE FEAR IN HER AGAINST ISLAM, CREATE FEAR IN OTHER STUDENTS? 7. WHY WAS SHE PUBLICLY FLOGGED IF NOT FOR HATRED? 8. WHAT MORAL LESSON DID THE PRINCIPAL SIGNALED TO OTHER STUDENTS AND TEACHERS AS WELL? COME TO THINK OF IT: IN MAJORITY OF OUR SO CALLED GOVERNMENT SCHOOLS, 1 CHRISTIANS CONDUCT ASSEMBLY FOR 4 DAY AND MUSLIMS 1 DAY 2. CHRISTIAN TEACHERS ARE MAJORITY WITH EVANGELISM MANDATE AT ANY COST; 3. MAJORITY OF OUR HOLIDAYS ARE PROGRAMMED WITH CHRISTIAN CALENDER AND AGENDA; 4. MUSLIMS ARE VICTIMIZED BECAUSE WE HAVE NOBODY IN AUTHORITY TO SPEAK FOR US; 5. BOTH SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS ARE REGARDED AS WEEKENDS BASED ON CHRISTIAN AGENDA; 6. WE ALL KNOW HOW SATURDAY BECAME A WORK FREE DAY; 7. THE MEDIA IS DOMINATED BY CHRISTIANS WITH ISLAM AS TARGET OF ATTACK AND HATRED 8. CHRISTIANS PREACHES LOVE OF MUSLIMS IN PUBLIC BUT FILLED THEIR HEARTS AND MINDS WITH HATRED AND DESTRUCTION OF MUSLIMS IN THE CHURCH. 9. 'NIGERIA FOR CHRIST BY YEAR 2000' CRUSADE NOW LEADING TO BH INVENTION AND THE SHOUT FOR SPLITTING OF THE COUNTRY HAVE SUCCESSFULLY USED THE MEDIA TO PROJECT THAT CHRISTIANS DOMINATE THE WEST. |
Re: 12-year-old Caned For Wearing Hijab Out Of Class by daviesore: 2:50pm On Feb 28, 2013 |
please do not move from the main issue. 1. the girl used Hijab in School at what time? 2. is the use of Hijab a criminal offence? 3. DOES THE USE OF HIJAB POSE ANY MORAL THREAT TO THE SCHOOL AND ALL OTHER STUDENTS? 4. IS THE USE OF CANE ALLOWED IN SCHOOL, IF YES AT WHAT LEVEL OF OFFENCE? 5. IF THIS GIRL WAS CAUGHT Being Intimate IN THE SCHOOL(AS WE WITNESSED IN MANY GOV. SCHOOL) WILL SHE BE HUMILIATED LIKE THAT? 6. the principal saw her and called an emergency assembly,WHY? IS IT TO BRAND HER A TERRORIST, CREATE FEAR IN HER AGAINST ISLAM, CREATE FEAR IN OTHER STUDENTS? 7. WHY WAS SHE PUBLICLY FLOGGED IF NOT FOR HATRED? 8. WHAT MORAL LESSON DID THE PRINCIPAL SIGNALED TO OTHER STUDENTS AND TEACHERS AS WELL? COME TO THINK OF IT: IN MAJORITY OF OUR SO CALLED GOVERNMENT SCHOOLS, 1 CHRISTIANS CONDUCT ASSEMBLY FOR 4 DAY AND MUSLIMS 1 DAY 2. CHRISTIAN TEACHERS ARE MAJORITY WITH EVANGELISM MANDATE AT ANY COST; 3. MAJORITY OF OUR HOLIDAYS ARE PROGRAMMED WITH CHRISTIAN CALENDER AND AGENDA; 4. MUSLIMS ARE VICTIMIZED BECAUSE WE HAVE NOBODY IN AUTHORITY TO SPEAK FOR US; 5. BOTH SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS ARE REGARDED AS WEEKENDS BASED ON CHRISTIAN AGENDA; 6. WE ALL KNOW HOW SATURDAY BECAME A WORK FREE DAY; 7. THE MEDIA IS DOMINATED BY CHRISTIANS WITH ISLAM AS TARGET OF ATTACK AND HATRED 8. CHRISTIANS PREACHES LOVE OF MUSLIMS IN PUBLIC BUT FILLED THEIR HEARTS AND MINDS WITH HATRED AND DESTRUCTION OF MUSLIMS IN THE CHURCH. 9. 'NIGERIA FOR CHRIST BY YEAR 2000' CRUSADE NOW LEADING TO BH INVENTION AND THE SHOUT FOR SPLITTING OF THE COUNTRY HAVE SUCCESSFULLY USED THE MEDIA TO PROJECT THAT CHRISTIANS DOMINATE THE WEST. 1 Like |
Re: 12-year-old Caned For Wearing Hijab Out Of Class by Melahou(m): 4:26pm On Feb 28, 2013 |
can we hear the side of the principal please before we jump into conclusion |
Re: 12-year-old Caned For Wearing Hijab Out Of Class by kalkah: 5:10pm On Feb 28, 2013 |
Does rules and regulation above the constitution of the nation? Even what is the rules concerning disciplinary action against a pupil, am sure 43 strokes of cain is a criminal offence.... Also child abuse is another perspective where the principal is guilty... I will advise the MSSN to sue the principal, they have a case since there is an existing supreme court judgement and court of appeal judgement on similar incidence. |
Re: 12-year-old Caned For Wearing Hijab Out Of Class by probsolver: 5:31pm On Feb 28, 2013 |
daviesore: probesolver, your comment lacks reasoning. she intended 6 strokes but when she did not stay that makes it up to 43. what is the sense in your fact you claimed to have got. That was what d principal was reported to said when interviewed. So get me right am not backing her HATRED act. |
Re: 12-year-old Caned For Wearing Hijab Out Of Class by Nobody: 7:12pm On Feb 28, 2013 |
tbaba1234: Inexplicable hatred!!i was never a catholic, and am not planning to be but I went to a strict catholic missionary school if u know one of the schools ran by the marist brothers, since am a student there and to avoid being d odd man out and also to abide to the school rules and regulations, I prayed my chaplets, i held to my prayer books very tight, i had one of the best and expensive chaplets den dat was 350 naira but did it make me a catholic. Religion shouldn't be an element to disobey. Itz very simple, if u can't abide to it, find anoda school. |
Re: 12-year-old Caned For Wearing Hijab Out Of Class by naptu2: 7:37pm On Feb 28, 2013 |
Movingcoil: i was never a catholic, and am not planning to be but I went to a strict catholic missionary school if u know one of the schools ran by the marist brothers, since am a student there and to avoid being d odd man out and also to abide to the school rules and regulations, I prayed my chaplets, i held to my prayer books very tight, i had one of the best and expensive chaplets den dat was 350 naira but did it make me a catholic. Religion shouldn't be an element to disobey. Itz very simple, if u can't abide to it, find anoda school. That was a private school. In a public school everybody has rights as enshrined in the constitution and the school cannot violate your rights. Besides, the constitution states: 1. (1) This Constitution is supreme and its provisions shall have binding force on the authorities and persons throughout the Federal Republic of Nigeria. (2) The Federal Republic of Nigeria shall not be governed, nor shall any persons or group of persons take control of the Government of Nigeria or any part thereof, except in accordance with the provisions of this Constitution. (3) If any other law is inconsistent with the provisions of this Constitution, this Constitution shall prevail, and that other law shall, to the extent of the inconsistency, be void. |
Re: 12-year-old Caned For Wearing Hijab Out Of Class by Nobody: 8:15pm On Feb 28, 2013 |
naptu2:don't public schools have rules and regulations? And is wearing hijab in nigerian constitution or sharia constitution? This is nigeria and not some arabic country like afganistan. |
Re: 12-year-old Caned For Wearing Hijab Out Of Class by naptu2: 8:25pm On Feb 28, 2013 |
Movingcoil: don't public schools have rules and regulations? And is wearing hijab in nigerian constitution or sharia constitution? This is nigeria and not some arabic country like afganistan. The Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria (1999) grants them the right to practice and manifest their religion in public. The High Court of Lagos State has ruled that school children have the right to wear the hijab (as granted to them by the constitution) and no school rules can deprive them of their right. Now, are you saying the school is superior to the court and the constitution? |
Re: 12-year-old Caned For Wearing Hijab Out Of Class by mbhs139(m): 7:09am On Mar 01, 2013 |
Movingcoil: i was never a catholic, and am not planning to be but I went to a strict catholic missionary school if u know one of the schools ran by the marist brothers, since am a student there and to avoid being d odd man out and also to abide to the school rules and regulations, I prayed my chaplets, i held to my prayer books very tight, i had one of the best and expensive chaplets den dat was 350 naira but did it make me a catholic. Religion shouldn't be an element to disobey. Itz very simple, if u can't abide to it, find anoda school. and a public school for that matter? how do you reason bro? don't use your life to judge others, i hate that part of our existence. as if we have the same challenge and opportunity |
Re: 12-year-old Caned For Wearing Hijab Out Of Class by mbhs139(m): 7:11am On Mar 01, 2013 |
Movingcoil: don't public schools have rules and regulations? And is wearing hijab in nigerian constitution or sharia constitution? This is nigeria and not some arabic country like afganistan. the comment above is not out of proper reasoning. it is actually born out of shared HATRED. My worry is that someone like you, in the near future, will be aiming to be at the helms of affair in this country one day. what type of leader will you be? |
Re: 12-year-old Caned For Wearing Hijab Out Of Class by Nobody: 8:04am On Mar 01, 2013 |
mbhs139:a leader that will do the necessary things not necessarilly the right thing and by then nigeria must hav split |
Re: 12-year-old Caned For Wearing Hijab Out Of Class by Nobody: 8:05am On Mar 01, 2013 |
mbhs139:so cos army, police and oda uniformed civil service jobs ar government works, does it mean u can replace the beret wid hijab? |
Re: 12-year-old Caned For Wearing Hijab Out Of Class by rhymz(m): 9:00am On Mar 01, 2013 |
sharp man: This story does not make sense. It is clearly exaggerated.this is the first comment here that points to main fact here, the story is an exaggerated one. It makes no sense that a principal will flog a little girl of 12yrs 43 strokes of the cane just for wearing Hijab. All we have is the story of a journalist whose religious allegiance we don't even know. It takes common sense to figure out that this is pure journalistic embelishment, an exaggerated version of what realy happened. Until the school or the Principal releases her own side of the story, I am afraid I can't believe this obviously flawed and exaggerated story. By the way, every student should stick to the accepted mode of dressing in school, if it violates the rules, don't expect to be treated with understanding. I doubt there is any such right that allows anyone to exhibit or manifest every aspect of your religion everywhere you go as claimed by the writer, it is obvious that there is no objectivity in this write up. Its motive is to steer emotions in people and nothing more. 43 strokes indeed! |
Re: 12-year-old Caned For Wearing Hijab Out Of Class by rhymz(m): 9:07am On Mar 01, 2013 |
naptu2:Bullshyt! Can you point out the section in the constitution that confers rights to female muslim students to wear hijabs or physically manifest themselves in way not consistent with the rules and regulation guiding any public organizations code of dressing. It will be interesting to read that. |
Re: 12-year-old Caned For Wearing Hijab Out Of Class by naptu2: 9:15am On Mar 01, 2013 |
rhymz: Bullshyt! Chai! How many times will I repeat myself? Go through the thread, I've already posted the relevant sections of the constitution, I've posted the court judgement, etc. |
Re: 12-year-old Caned For Wearing Hijab Out Of Class by JaaizTech: 9:23am On Mar 01, 2013 |
rhymz: this is the first comment here that points to main fact here, the story is an exaggerated one. If you are truly a sincere person, then you would have sought for the Principal's denial or side of the story before making this post, but you wouldn't because your mind is made up to be hateful to anything Islamic not because of any reasonable rationale but that is the way many of you are. The Principal's response and the Vice's was reported in the punch news paper; and just like many of you she was evasive at best. http://www.punchng.com/metro/outrage-as-principal-flogs-pupil-for-wearing-hijab/ It was learnt that Aisha wore the scarf outside the class in the school premises on February, 5, but she was apprehended by Ukpaka, who had warned against such practice. It was said the principal immediately called an emergency assembly after apprehending the teenager to address the issue. A pupil on the assembly, who pleaded anonymity for the fear of reprisal, said Aishat was given no fewer than 43 strokes of the cane. She said, “At about 4pm on that day; we had closed before we heard that there was an emergency assembly. “The principal addressed us and warned that if we didn’t stop putting on religious outfit during the school hours, we were going to get into trouble. She subsequently called on Aisha and gave her about 43 lashes. “Some of us started crying on the assembly. Her body was covered with marks of the cane. The principal had warned us before, but that day was more serious.” Aisha told our correspondent that since the school had closed, she thought that the principal’s warning would no more apply. She was however, prevented from talking further by her father, Rasak Alabi. When contacted, the principal declined comment, saying as a civil servant, she was not allowed to talk to the press. The Vice principal of the school, Mr. S. Ajide, however, said the school had appealed to the parent of the pupil. He said, “The principal is not a harsh person. The beating just came like that. We have pleaded with the father of the girl and he has accepted.” Rasak, who had earlier said he wanted his daughter to forger the “sad experience”, however, insisted that there was no basis for the beating because her daughter did not flout any law. - See more at: http://www.punchng.com/metro/outrage-as-principal-flogs-pupil-for-wearing-hijab/#sthash.I3VIwIJi.dpuf |
Re: 12-year-old Caned For Wearing Hijab Out Of Class by naptu2: 9:24am On Mar 01, 2013 |
Ok, I'm going to round up all my posts and repost them, I just hope someone won't ask me to do it again 2 pages down the line. |
Re: 12-year-old Caned For Wearing Hijab Out Of Class by naptu2: 9:32am On Mar 01, 2013 |
I'm going to go this way 1) Court Judgement 2) Relevant sections of the constitution. 3) Legal interpretations. 4) Similar case in the UK. |
Re: 12-year-old Caned For Wearing Hijab Out Of Class by naptu2: 9:32am On Mar 01, 2013 |
[size=14pt]'Stop Ban On Religious Attires in Schools'.[/size] http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-14506341_ITM |
Re: 12-year-old Caned For Wearing Hijab Out Of Class by naptu2: 9:34am On Mar 01, 2013 |
[size=14pt]Nigerian Muslims Welcome Court Ruling on Hijab[/size] http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?46139-Nigerian-Muslims-Welcome-Court-Ruling-on-Hijab |
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