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Predominantly Atheist Countries Have Lowest Crime Rate According To Study by bawomolo(m): 11:21pm On Mar 18, 2008 |
Several weeks ago, a ground-breaking study on religious belief and social well-being was published in the Journal of Religion & Society. Comparing 18 prosperous democracies from the U.S. to New Zealand, author Gregory S Paul quietly demolished the myth that faith strengthens society. i think this shatters the thinking that morality is lost when societies become secular. http://www.humaniststudies.org/enews/index.html?id=219&article=7 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Predominantly Atheist Countries Have Lowest Crime Rate According To Study by Ibime(m): 1:46am On Mar 19, 2008 |
Bamo, even by your standards, this is very shallow analysis. Firstly, aetheist countries are either (a.) Rich (b.) Communist Those are the factors that affect crime, not religion. Why did you not draw your analysis against countries which have Sharia law? After all, they have the lowest crime. 1 Like |
Re: Predominantly Atheist Countries Have Lowest Crime Rate According To Study by bawomolo(m): 2:05pm On Mar 19, 2008 |
Firstly, aetheist countries are either ha ha, isn't the USA a pretty rich country, why isn't it on the list. the scandanavian countries are socialists and not communists. u might need to get ur facts straight. the Dutch are predominantly liberal. 9 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Predominantly Atheist Countries Have Lowest Crime Rate According To Study by 4Him(m): 4:04pm On Mar 19, 2008 |
The funny thing is most of the countries you name were founded on christian principles - The US and much of western Europe. |
Re: Predominantly Atheist Countries Have Lowest Crime Rate According To Study by bawomolo(m): 4:09pm On Mar 19, 2008 |
The funny thing is most of the countries you name were founded on christian principles - The US and much of western Europe. the US wasn't founded on christian principles, it was founded on secular principles. Christian conservatives from the 70's are the one spreading that theory of yours. so why do u think atheist countries have less violence and crime?? 4 Likes |
Re: Predominantly Atheist Countries Have Lowest Crime Rate According To Study by 4Him(m): 4:29pm On Mar 19, 2008 |
bawomolo: It was founded by devout christians who recognised the wisdom in separating church and state. 1 Like |
Re: Predominantly Atheist Countries Have Lowest Crime Rate According To Study by bawomolo(m): 5:41pm On Mar 19, 2008 |
so where bejamin franklin, monroe, thomas jefferson etc devout christians?? 3 Likes |
Re: Predominantly Atheist Countries Have Lowest Crime Rate According To Study by 4Him(m): 5:46pm On Mar 19, 2008 |
bawomolo: we've been through this before. Say something else. |
Re: Predominantly Atheist Countries Have Lowest Crime Rate According To Study by Ibime(m): 8:39pm On Mar 19, 2008 |
bawomolo: Sharrap dia! Do you think I even bothered to read your list? So USA is not on the list? If so, USA is not on the list because although it is the richest country in the world, the rich-poor divide is too large. Crime in the US would be as a result of the 'economics of envy' - and lax gun laws. Rich countries have no incentives to commit crime Communist countries do not commit crime because of strict authoritarian regimes and because there is no real difference in the standard of living of the people. Anyway, back to religion - what does aetheism have to do with reduction in crime? 1 Like |
Re: Predominantly Atheist Countries Have Lowest Crime Rate According To Study by bawomolo(m): 3:58am On Mar 20, 2008 |
secularism and humanism seem to have a better effect on morality that religious fanatism 3 Likes |
Re: Predominantly Atheist Countries Have Lowest Crime Rate According To Study by Nobody: 9:45am On Mar 20, 2008 |
bawomolo: Neither here nor there. Jesus said --> Luke 5:32 "I have not come to call the righteous but sinners to repentance." |
Re: Predominantly Atheist Countries Have Lowest Crime Rate According To Study by WesleyanA(f): 9:47am On Mar 20, 2008 |
more like: PREDOMINANTLY WELL DEVELOPED COUNTRIES. of course, richer countries will have lower crime rates. if the standard of living, security etc were generally high, there will be less incentive to commit crime. unlike here were the police is afraid of thieves and a lot of people are poor. rich people also tend to slack off in faith (i think there is a parable about this in the new testament, the needle's eye i think or is it needle in the haystack). I don't think the US is predominantly atheist. not even close. it's secular but not atheist. |
Re: Predominantly Atheist Countries Have Lowest Crime Rate According To Study by hns: 12:15pm On Mar 20, 2008 |
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Re: Predominantly Atheist Countries Have Lowest Crime Rate According To Study by 4Play(m): 12:35pm On Mar 20, 2008 |
I didn't get to read Bawo's entire article but the premise is incredibly warped.Never mind the attempts to stretch stats,this is a clear example of someone mistaking correlation for causation. The sensible thing would have been to compare like for like-the difference in crime rates between theist and atheist Japanese for instance. Its incredibly meaningless to compare,say Japan with its unique socio-cultural make up and the US with its also unique make up and history(large ethnic minority population and huge income inequality) 1 Like |
Re: Predominantly Atheist Countries Have Lowest Crime Rate According To Study by syrup(f): 6:34pm On May 24, 2008 |
@bawomolo, bawomolo: That statement does not even come close to bear. True, fanaticism is an ugly phenomenon - whether express religiously, politically, or atheistically. But what has history demonstrated about humanism and secularism? I think the idea has be well laid to rest by the various contributors; particularly these two caught my attention: (a) 4 Play: (b) WesleyanA: Besides, dear bawomolo, just what precisely do you mean by "Atheist Countries" in your thread topic? |
Re: Predominantly Atheist Countries Have Lowest Crime Rate According To Study by elelem(m): 1:40am On Apr 16, 2010 |
Your research lacks merit and is entirely false |
Re: Predominantly Atheist Countries Have Lowest Crime Rate According To Study by richjohn1(m): 7:23am On Apr 16, 2010 |
@4HIM US wasn't founded by christian principles 80% of te founding fathers were free masons/illuminati members get ur fact straight! I dont even think you know anything abt benjamin franklin, I doubt 1 Like |
Re: Predominantly Atheist Countries Have Lowest Crime Rate According To Study by ilosiwaju: 3:50pm On Apr 20, 2010 |
elelem:How so sir? |
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Re: Predominantly Atheist Countries Have Lowest Crime Rate According To Study by 11after: 6:09am On Dec 19, 2011 |
This is incorrect. Completely false. First, this research confuses "country" with "society". The USA is not a society. It's a country. Within a country there are multiple societies. Without knowing the religious beliefs of the convicted murders or pregnant teens, you don't know to which society they belong; therefore, your research is inconclusive at best. Also, because a persons belief system is subject to change over time, you would have to know what their beliefs were specifically at the time of the homicide or intimate act. More food for thought: One of the major contributing factors to teen pregnancy in the U.S. is the depiction of sex in the media. Sex is everywhere on TV. Sex is used to sell clothes and news. It's in television shows - even those gears towards teens. Who controls the media in the U.S.? I promise you it's not a bunch of faithful Christians. Generally speaking, the media is liberal. |
Re: Predominantly Atheist Countries Have Lowest Crime Rate According To Study by Teediggz: 6:35pm On Dec 19, 2011 |
Contrary to this report Japan is a Shintoist nation with lots of Bu-dist derivatives notably Zen. The UK the highest teenage pregnancy in Europe, higher than Liberal Holland. |
Re: Predominantly Atheist Countries Have Lowest Crime Rate According To Study by dmsc: 8:37am On Feb 28, 2013 |
11after: This is incorrect. Completely false. |
Re: Predominantly Atheist Countries Have Lowest Crime Rate According To Study by POPEII: 5:14pm On Dec 10, 2013 |
There are no Atheist/atheism dominated countries |
Re: Predominantly Atheist Countries Have Lowest Crime Rate According To Study by plaetton: 5:48pm On Dec 10, 2013 |
4Him: The funny thing is most of the countries you name were founded on christian principles - The US and much of western Europe. What were Christian principles? The funny thing is that most of the European countries have evolved beyond the so-called Christian principles, and have since moved on.. and that is why they are examplary today. |
Re: Predominantly Atheist Countries Have Lowest Crime Rate According To Study by plaetton: 6:06pm On Dec 10, 2013 |
Teediggz: Contrary to this report Japan is a Shintoist nation with lots of Bu-dist derivatives notably Zen. The UK the highest teenage pregnancy in Europe, higher than Liberal Holland. First, Shintoism is not a custodial religion. It is more of a philosophical system with symbolic rituals. Shintoism does not acknowledge the existence of a custodial deity. It is more of a codification of cultural practices from Japanese antiquity. So, Japanese are bona fide atheists. As for teen pregnancy in the Uk, a simple statistical analysis shows that most cases of teen pregnancy are among black British teens, notably of Carribean descent. The mains reasons being economic deprivation , as well as religious and cultural factors. The highest levels of births outside marriage in the Uk, more than 60 per cent, were among Black British mothers. So, here again, religion and economic status confirm the op's theme. |
Re: Predominantly Atheist Countries Have Lowest Crime Rate According To Study by plaetton: 6:08pm On Dec 10, 2013 |
Ibime: What are the communist countries on the list? Aside from North Korean, do we still have communist countries? You don't seem to know the difference between a socialist country and a communist country. What a shame. 1 Like |
Re: Predominantly Atheist Countries Have Lowest Crime Rate According To Study by zardd: 7:18am On Dec 03, 2014 |
isn't china still comunnist country? |
Re: Predominantly Atheist Countries Have Lowest Crime Rate According To Study by Nobody: 9:30am On Dec 03, 2014 |
Atheist vs Christian crime rates. Your headline is deceptive. Better would have been "predominantly atheist countries have lower crime rate than developed christian countries". |
Re: Predominantly Atheist Countries Have Lowest Crime Rate According To Study by nora544: 9:51am On Dec 03, 2014 |
I live in austria and religion and state are different but we are a christian country, we didnot have so much fake christians than nigeria, what for us is important is the human rights and that make a country a better country. |
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