bigass:


Did U finish from Ife?

Okija_juju: Good Job Mr. Fashola...




I am not a fan of yours, but this is a welcomed development.. We cant continue to live and behave like animals in this country.. I dont care where you are from or what ethinicity is involved..

This is a good development!

Okija_juju:

[b]I can never support you on this one..

Let it go. The traders were badly behaved, even they themselves have admitted their wrong doing. I feel your arguement is more tribal than logical. If they had simple 500 Naira Dustbins in front of their shops, a passage way for small trucks to drive through at Night and pick up these wastes from the front of their shops, then things would be better. They built illegal strictures all over, clustered the entire market that even human traffic was nearly impossible and then started dumping stuff into the canal as a matter of convinience. Anybody who has ever been to a Mechanic village in any state of the federation would know that this is their standard practice.

Now that they have the ear of the governor, they can now talk with him to help in certain areas that they need help in the market. For a Market that make 500 Million Naira a day, they cant build a state of the art toilet system?! I know what leads to this nonsense. Most of their sales boys and girls sleep inside the market. The traders need to better organize themselves. They should stop depending on the government for every f`ucking thing!


This is a welcomed move. Call it starting from scratch. Everything should be corrected now so that when business commences, there will be no breach of conduct.

Support a good move.. Onitsha Main Market & Ariaria Market needs something similar as well.

No tribalism on this matter.. I support the LASG. [/b]

Mcdondayan:
So a small dust bin in front of your shop will carry a condemed engine block, a small dustbin will contain so many radiators that are ti be thrown away, or batteries to be disposed e.t.c. Have you ever been to a big auto spare part market before? In as much as i do not support d dirty environment, but they shoul provide a central dump site for the market.

Mcdondayan:
So a small dust bin in front of your shop will carry a condemed engine block, a small dustbin will contain so many radiators that are ti be thrown away, or batteries to be disposed e.t.c. Have you ever been to a big auto spare part market before? In as much as i do not support d dirty environment, but they shoul provide a central dump site for the market.

PointB:

Imagine a big market like Ladipo without a central dump site, yet some clowns are praising the government for the inanity of closing the market. Why didn't the government provide this facility and see if it will be put to use or not before closing the market? It's little wonder why Lagos State itself is one big junkyard. A state where the government pockets tax-payer money, plant flowers, and then do fvckall with the rest of the loot.

Now taxpayers still have to plead with government to their job, in providing the simplest of facility. If this simple plea is not granted, I surmise that Ladipo, and every other markets in Lagos State and beyond will remain a sh1t-yard for aeon. This is very fundamental.



Shameful.

bigass:


Did U finish from Ife?

PointB:

Imagine a big market like Ladipo without a central dump site, yet some clowns are praising the government for the inanity of closing the market. Why didn't the government provide this facility and see if it will be put to use or not before closing the market? It's little wonder why Lagos State itself is one big junkyard. A state where the government pockets tax-payer money, plant flowers, and then do fvckall with the rest of the loot.

Now taxpayers still have to plead with government to their job, in providing the simplest of facility. If this simple plea is not granted, I surmise that Ladipo, and every other markets in Lagos State and beyond will remain a sh1t-yard for aeon. This is very fundamental.



Shameful.

ba7man: Ladipo market was never designed to be an auto-spare part market from the onset. Igbo traders move into residential areas and turn them to markets without regards to the activities they'll be carrying out there.

PointB: @Okija_juju

Incidentally, I do not seek your support nor seek your validation of my comments.

My position on this issue is as clear as crystal, and I couldn't care less if you sense a tinge of tribalism in it or not. And my position that, it is the primary duty of Government to provide facilities for keeping the environment clean.

If there is a central waste disposal system, it will be put to use, if there is none, you don't expect the traders to carry their waste home. These are basic fundamental thing any administrator should consider.

Pull down all the structure in Ladipo, replace the Igbo traders with Yoruba/hausa one, or bring white men to trade in Ladipo, without an efficient waste disposal system, any empty space in a market is game, canal is even more easy a target.

The government need to do it part in provision of basic amenities for tax-payer, it is only after this is done can they enforce regulation bordering on the use or not of such amenities. A child should know, I wonder why it is so hard for grown men to realise this. Shame again!

Standing5:

And what's wrong with creating one now? The situation on ground is bad, yes, but that does not mean the state shouldn't move to clean up what has become a mess. As for Taxpayers pleading with the govt to do their job, you may need to know of other states where such plead are seen as impossible, for a relatively working government like that of Lag i thing delaying the cleaning up of Ladipo market is justified.

ba7man: Ladipo market was never designed to be an auto-spare part market from the onset. Igbo traders move into residential areas and turn them to markets without regards to the activities they'll be carrying out there.

According to him, “You traders should thank your creator that it is Lagos state government. If it were other states, the government may not create a platform for the traders and its officials to meet and discuss issues concerning the market.”

Mcdondayan:
So a small dust bin in front of your shop will carry a condemed engine block, a small dustbin will contain so many radiators that are ti be thrown away, or batteries to be disposed e.t.c. Have you ever been to a big auto spare part market before? In as much as i do not support d dirty environment, but they shoul provide a central dump site for the market.

Okija_juju:

[b]You have interestingly focused your efforts on just the Waste.

Waste funny enough is the easiet thing that could have been handled personally by the Market Union if they wanted to. Several markets do have unions that organize people who come to collect their wastes every evening at the close of business, why couldnt Ladipo Traders who claim to make 500 million Naira Daily do same?! Lets not forget that these same traders have built bathrooms and toilets all along the canal area. They employ salesboys and girls from their villages and dont make any provisons for them interms of accomodation. I guess we should also blame LASG for not providing hostels for their Nwaboys as well. If grown men cant organize themselves, then its truly a pity. So because the government has failed t provide waste facilities, they decide to live inside the waste. WOW!!!!!

So the government that provided shops for the trader, yet the traders built illegal structures along the canal nko?! If a flood had come in and destroyed their businesses and killed the traders, you and many others like you would be the first to scream and point fingers at the governor. Lets not forget that these same traders were the ones blocking the roads and constituting a nuisance in the area o! I guess the government as well should have provided a nuisance area for them too.

The responsibility is shared.. The government has its own, but the bulk of it is on the traders because they are the primary users of the market.

Well! Whatever happened in the past is the past.. THE MARKET HAS BEEN CLOSED & WILL REMAIN CLOSED. That market needs to be overhauled. FASHOLA should not compromise on standards. Because we have been doing things a certain way does not mean it should continue like that.[/b]

PointB:

There is nothing wrong with creating one now, just as there is nothing wrong with cleaning Ladipo. My point has always been that Lagos State government (Aka Fashola) should have thought of providing efficient waste disposal system for the traders, rather that turning around to blame the for the consequence of his shortsightedness.

gerald09: This is were u kn the problems of Nigeria in in our blood. Dis lunatics expect us to have mercy on dem so dey keep telling us how much dey loose daily form 100million daily nw its 500million. Dis is to show how most of us value money to human life. Very soon dey will start blaming jonna if he acts like dat. 500million daily n dey didn't have d decency to clean d very place dat put food in dere mouth, NEVA BIT D FINGERS THAT FEED U.

PointB: @Okija_juju

Incidentally, I do not seek your support nor seek your validation of my comments.

My position on this issue is as clear as crystal, and I couldn't care less if you sense a tinge of tribalism in it or not. And my position that, it is the primary duty of Government to provide facilities for keeping the environment clean.

If there is a central waste disposal system, it will be put to use, if there is none, you don't expect the traders to carry their waste home. These are basic fundamental thing any administrator should consider.

Pull down all the structure in Ladipo, replace the Igbo traders with Yoruba/hausa one, or bring white men to trade in Ladipo, without an efficient waste disposal system, any empty space in a market is game, canal is even more easy a target.

The government need to do it part in provision of basic amenities for tax-payer, it is only after this is done can they enforce regulation bordering on the use or not of such amenities. A child should know, I wonder why it is so hard for grown men to realise this. Shame again!

Immune#1:
Ladipo was largely built by ibo men with little government support;instead of government to think up creative ways like monetizing auto-waste,they are busy creating impressions.1billion naira is too much to set things right rather than create all these media attention to show you are working.

alfaman2:

You are really a clown and it pains me to say this to a fellow igbo man. How can you turn around and blame the victims?
Where are the facilities that the state government was supposed to provide in the first place?
Why single out ladipo when other markets are in similar or worse situations?
Would the foolish governor do this in an hausa/fulani dominated market?
Why punish everybody if it was only a few shops that are blocking the road? Why not clear those shops only and allow the other law abiding shops to go about their business?
Are we not meant to be in a democracy? What is this nonsense of one man making unilateral decision and imposing it on others?
And please stop joinning Yoruba to attack igbos. They are very good at anti-igbo propaganda.
Even google knows who are the dirtiest people in the whole world. Just ask it.

boron10:
Why didn't they notify the government on the non availability of a central dump site in the market?

PointB: @Okija_juju

The trader providing those facilities themselves is certainly another way to solve the problem. But lest not forget in a hurry, that some of the arrested traders were charged with operation illegal security operation.

If the effort of the traders to provide security, something that is done in every market, can be deem illegal, why not the unauthorized waste disposal services? It is important that in our effort to make ourselves loved by people, to be rational, and look at the bigger picture. Considering that wheelbarrow pushing on main road is consider illegal in Lagos, I wonder then if the traders should have engaged those who will place the rubbish on their head and walk kilometer to whereever to dispose this waste, when government agent (LAWMA) could have done a better job with their facility.

No one in his right sense will support erecting structures on canal to the point on blocking it's free flow, and I cannot subscribe to such illegality. So stop bringing that argument here as it hold no value. As a matter of fact, such structures should not have even be there if not for the complicity of Local Officials. In any case I support the removal. But to suggest that traders organise their own parallel waste disposal system when the government has working system to stretching the argument too far; it is retrogressive thinking if you ask me.

Delafruita: in essence,the government should do everything for you.citizens have a responsibility as well.keeping your environment clean is one of them.there might not be a central dump,but the government has provided the LAWMA trucks which have proven to be very useful in almost all parts of lagos.

boron10:
Don't they have union? Don't they pay dues to the union? Why must the state government be the one to manage their wastes for them? The more you try hard to comment on this thread, the more you display your stupidity.

Spare parts dealers should know how best to dispose their refuse. Why didn't they notify the government on the non availability of a central dump site in the market? You think those in government are Omnipresent abi?

Okija_juju:

[b]I can never support you on this one..

Let it go. The traders were badly behaved, even they themselves have admitted their wrong doing. I feel your arguement is more tribal than logical. If they had simple 500 Naira Dustbins in front of their shops, a passage way for small trucks to drive through at Night and pick up these wastes from the front of their shops, then things would be better. They built illegal strictures all over, clustered the entire market that even human traffic was nearly impossible and then started dumping stuff into the canal as a matter of convinience. Anybody who has ever been to a Mechanic village in any state of the federation would know that this is their standard practice.

Now that they have the ear of the governor, they can now talk with him to help in certain areas that they need help in the market. For a Market that make 500 Million Naira a day, they cant build a state of the art toilet system?! I know what leads to this nonsense. Most of their sales boys and girls sleep inside the market. The traders need to better organize themselves. They should stop depending on the government for every f`ucking thing!


This is a welcomed move. Call it starting from scratch. Everything should be corrected now so that when business commences, there will be no breach of conduct.

Support a good move.. Onitsha Main Market & Ariaria Market needs something similar as well.

No tribalism on this matter.. I support the LASG. [/b]

alfaman2:

You are really a clown and it pains me to say this to a fellow igbo man. How can you turn around and blame the victims?
Where are the facilities that the state government was supposed to provide in the first place?
Why single out ladipo when other markets are in similar or worse situations?
Would the foolish governor do this in an hausa/fulani dominated market?
Why punish everybody if it was only a few shops that are blocking the road? Why not clear those shops only and allow the other law abiding shops to go about their business?
Are we not meant to be in a democracy? What is this nonsense of one man making unilateral decision and imposing it on others?
And please stop joinning Yoruba to attack igbos. They are very good at anti-igbo propaganda.
Even google knows who are the dirtiest people in the whole world. Just ask it.

seanet02: Never expect you to be reasonable.
How about you using your senses?

PointB:

Imagine a big market like Ladipo without a central dump site, yet some clowns are praising the government for the inanity of closing the market. Why didn't the government provide this facility and see if it will be put to use or not before closing the market? It's little wonder why Lagos State itself is one big junkyard. A state where the government pockets tax-payer money, plant flowers, and then do fvckall with the rest of the loot.

Now taxpayers still have to plead with government to their job, in providing the simplest of facility. If this simple plea is not granted, I surmise that Ladipo, and every other markets in Lagos State and beyond will remain a sh1t-yard for aeon. This is very fundamental.



Shameful.

The founding Director-General of Nigeria Economic Summit Group, Prof. Anya O. Anya yesterday visited the closed Ladipo auto spare part market, Mushin Local Government and tasked the traders to comply with the state government sanitation law 2010.

Anya who addressed the hundreds of traders at the market noted that the state government will only open the market when they comply with the state government sanitation standards.

According to him, “You traders should thank your creator that it is Lagos state government. If it were other states, the government may not create a platform for the traders and its officials to meet and discuss issues concerning the market.”

He urged the marketers to urgently evacuate the dirt, saying “the sooner the traders complied with the state government directives, the sooner the market would be re-opened”.