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ezeagu:


The New Afrikan movement and other Ankh waving movements are neo-Africanist movements based on information gotten from books. The Yoruba were the last people to arrive in places like Brazil and Trinidad and were able to retain their culture in South America this way which made the biggest impact on the Africanists. Same way the widespread use of Swahili lead to them adopting Swahili speaking cultures, and the grandiosity of Ancient Egypt lead them to pick that up even when these cultures have little to do with their ancestors. You're hanging onto your Barbados theory because of Obadele Thompson as if African Americans called Keisha are proof of major Kenyan influence in America. Let's ignore the fact that there are people who also picked up Igbo names like Kojo Nnamdi who took an Igbo name as an actual family name and Jamaican Oku Onuora who did the same.

I'm talking about influence. Let's talk about Ebo landing (which remains in African American folklore till today). Let's talk about Red Eboe. Let's talk about slave notices in the South about "Eboe" runaways. Barbadians do not know anyother type of African shamanism except Obeah, there is no Yoruba nickname used for Barbados. This Imale revolt you're raving about led to nothing, no significant European casualties if any, not as large or even nearly as significant as Nat Turner's slave rebellion, the biggest in US history, which took place in Virginia, you've already noted why Virginia is significant.

Pele's name has nothing to do with any African language. You say Nas, again, I say Nnenna Freelon and Keisha Cole. Its of no Significance. We've already established the fact that Ebo landing is in South Carolina and the tale goes throughout the south. There is no tale of Yoruba slaves in New Orleans. We also need to know that one of the first presidents of Liberia, Edward James Roye, was repatriated from the US and claimed to be of Igbo descent.

You should have just left the Igbo out of your discussion.

4chi:


See where envy and petty jealousy has driven you. You are no different from a rabid infested dog. Was it the fault of the yorubas that your fathers were primitive,naked wild living mongrels? Food gatherers and cave men? You wish you were Yoruba but since your chi has decided otherwise, learn to live with it.

Forget all the crap being spewed above,the Yoruba culture survived in the diaspora because IT IS THE MOST RESILIENT CULTURE FROM AFRICA AND IT'S SPIRITUALITY IS WORLD ACCLAIMED UP TILL TODAY. Yorubas don't owe anybody any apology for that after all, aji se bi oyo la nri, oyo o se bi baba enikankan .

Ask yourself which other African group has anything as deep as the ifa corpus coupled with impressive pantheon of gods which aremore than that of the Greek mythology. Yorubas have always been the initiator and not the immitators in matters of culture or why do you think the rest of Nigeria now tie gele, wear aso ebi and aso oke, adire, etc, etc other cultures will continue to imitate but you will never see a Yoruba man tie wrapper. Eewo Orishas!!

You have said it all! May Eledumare continue to bless you. We are Yoruba; we don't want to be something else. It is not by accident that yoruba language is infused in every song being produced in Nigeria and beyond! Please permit me to borrow your words-ours is the "most resilient culture'. We simply do our things in our own ways.

4chi:


See where envy and petty jealousy has driven you. You are no different from a rabid infested dog. Was it the fault of the yorubas that your fathers were primitive,naked wild living mongrels? Food gatherers and cave men? You wish you were Yoruba but since your chi has decided otherwise, learn to live with it.

Forget all the crap being spewed above,the Yoruba culture survived in the diaspora because IT IS THE MOST RESILIENT CULTURE FROM AFRICA AND IT'S SPIRITUALITY IS WORLD ACCLAIMED UP TILL TODAY. Yorubas don't owe anybody any apology for that after all, aji se bi oyo la nri, oyo o se bi baba enikankan .

Ask yourself which other African group has anything as deep as the ifa corpus coupled with impressive pantheon of gods which aremore than that of the Greek mythology. Yorubas have always been the initiator and not the immitators in matters of culture or why do you think the rest of Nigeria now tie gele, wear aso ebi and aso oke, adire, etc, etc other cultures will continue to imitate but you will never see a Yoruba man tie wrapper. Eewo Orishas!!

i hate reading things like this.we are in a world where countries depend on other countries' inputs&thus cant do without others.IF NOT russia's economy should depend on itself despite the sanctions,but they are struggling.just as a person cant be an island so it is in terms of cultures.no dey try claim tribal superority.igbos contribute to yoruba,yoruba to Hausa and so on.am sure that some of the things you do were borrowed from other cultures&so do others borrow from you.the world is evolving,so stop being SENTIMENTAL

Akshow:
you made no sense at all. Pray, what exactly is your point?

Abeg oga no vex d guy no com wit his brain

yemicoal:
wow, tot you were IBO all this while, your face n monicker all igboish.

Yea! u can say dat again..most pple tink m igbo...sum even argue dah i av an igbo blood

Igbo amaka

adedayourt:


Pwetty yoruba

Tanx dearie

4chi:


See where envy and petty jealousy has driven you. You are no different from a rabid infested dog. Was it the fault of the yorubas that your fathers were primitive,naked wild living mongrels? Food gatherers and cave men? You wish you were Yoruba but since your chi has decided otherwise, learn to live with it.

Forget all the crap being spewed above,the Yoruba culture survived in the diaspora because IT IS THE MOST RESILIENT CULTURE FROM AFRICA AND IT'S SPIRITUALITY IS WORLD ACCLAIMED UP TILL TODAY. Yorubas don't owe anybody any apology for that after all, aji se bi oyo la nri, oyo o se bi baba enikankan .

Ask yourself which other African group has anything as deep as the ifa corpus coupled with impressive pantheon of gods which aremore than that of the Greek mythology. Yorubas have always been the initiator and not the immitators in matters of culture or why do you think the rest of Nigeria now tie gele, wear aso ebi and aso oke, adire, etc, etc other cultures will continue to imitate but you will never see a Yoruba man tie wrapper. Eewo Orishas!!

Beeni oo , Oyo o se bii BABA ANYBODY!!
Other tribes have started wearing Aso Oke , Aso ebi and ofi........

Its normal to copy or adopt other culture's dressing style and respect them for it but some bushmen will claim it like its theirs.

True. EVERY SINGLE AFRICAN GROUP of people who were enslaved in the caribbean/latin america left their mark. Every single one. Not one country or territory is mostly anything. We are a blend of all.

The whole concept of Yoruba vs. Igbo is extremely irrelevant when talking about us because truth be told, even though we are influenced by all of the west africans who were enslaved..STILL no west african group has influenced the caribbean and latin america like the Kongo peoples of central africa, generally speaking.

west africa gave us dialects and certain superstitions...but when it comes to lifestyle, music and dance...the kongo-angola area (any historian or expert on caribbean cultures will tell you) has the largest influence. whenever you hear dancehall, rumba, samba, merengue, salsa, calypso, soca; etc you are listening to central africa. literally...so....

we're an all around diverse group of people. we can't be boxed in to any one group...another reason why it's not wise to assume the practicing of yoruba language/customs = yoruba domination/superiority.

God bless you!!!never knew the KONGO people invented Dancehall which is Jamaica's main song even soca which is GENERALLY southern america's most inflential genre of music.and some fools go dey claim superiority

look at my lost people called by by-words being proud and boasting of pagan and Hamitic origins and cultures, really lost people

4chi:


See where envy and petty jealousy has driven you. You are no different from a rabid infested dog. Was it the fault of the yorubas that your fathers were primitive,naked wild living mongrels? Food gatherers and cave men? You wish you were Yoruba but since your chi has decided otherwise, learn to live with it.

Forget all the crap being spewed above,the Yoruba culture survived in the diaspora because IT IS THE MOST RESILIENT CULTURE FROM AFRICA AND IT'S SPIRITUALITY IS WORLD ACCLAIMED UP TILL TODAY. Yorubas don't owe anybody any apology for that after all, aji se bi oyo la nri, oyo o se bi baba enikankan .

Ask yourself which other African group has anything as deep as the ifa corpus coupled with impressive pantheon of gods which aremore than that of the Greek mythology. Yorubas have always been the initiator and not the immitators in matters of culture or why do you think the rest of Nigeria now tie gele, wear aso ebi and aso oke, adire, etc, etc other cultures will continue to imitate but you will never see a Yoruba man tie wrapper. Eewo Orishas!!

Tell that senseless guy

Because they were such good azz licking slaves the Spanish and Portogese had nothing to worry from them rebelling.

So Jose Fernadez allowed then to keep their drums, do their voodoo stuff on the side and speak the ngbat1 language.

FXKing2012:
Because Yorubas used "juju"...

must you show your low level of intelligence on a post like this?

Abagworo:


Igbo, Yoruba and other recently formed identities are very much alive in South America. Maybe the thread was started by someone who is not aware that the Calabari/Carabali is very much active in South America even more than other groups. Calabari comprises mostly of Igbo, Efik/Ibibio and Ijaw who were known as one ethnic group then with the subgroups used as a suffix to explain the specific origin.


A great diversity of peoples brought to the Americas from the Niger Delta and Cross River Basin were labeled by merchants as Carabalí, as Cuban historian Des- champs discovered: “The carabalí. The tribes brought to Cuba under this denomi- nation are innumerable . . . part of those [“carabalí’] who founded cabildos respond- ed to the following denominations: Abalo, Acocuá, Agro, Apapá, Bibí, Bogre, Bogre Isuama, Abate Singlava, Brícamo, Ecunaso, Ibo Induri, Isicuato, Isiegue, Isuama, Isuama Aballa Ocuite, Isuama Ibi, Isuama Isiegue, Isueche, Oquella, Ososo, OsosoEche, Ososo Omuma, Oxó, Ugri, Unigini, Aballa Otopa, Isuama Umofina, Isuama Osulerisna, Orú, Elugo, Orate, Bané, Yudusi.”13 Of this partial list of thirty-three ethnic denominations, only five survived into the twentieth century as components of the Abakuá society (Efí, Efó, Orú, Bibí, Suáma); today there are two main ethnic lineages: Efí and Efó, with Orú as an important third lineage.

your point is still not coherent.

pazienza:


Nonsense! Yorubas never led any struggle in the new world,than the igbos. The igbos had established the ibo republic of palmeras in brazil,which one did yorubas establish?

Like someone already said,yoruba culture appears dominant in latin america,cos they were the later group to arrive there,by which time the europeans had slowed down on their earlier anti-african religion and culture stance,which the earlier ethnic groups were subjected under,leading to loss of their culture.

guy.....a part infact some parts of brazil spik yoruba just dat their own accent is very just different......e.g i can never understand wat a typical ijebu woman tells me in yoruba cos i understand only dat of ibadan

U are a good historian.Ur life will be filled with divine joy and ur future will be blessed with all the good thgs of life.U've hit the bull in the eye.God bless u greatly.I will save this in my archive,in case there is need for it in the future time.

mainman7:
[b]Yes you are definitely right. Right from time, Yorubas valued the sanctity of life and were not rushing to sell their brethren for money unlike the igbos, until the colonial masters' violent raid could no more be withstood and they started taking slaves. igbos are fools,and bloody senseless liars like achebe,twisting history. igbos rather flatter themselves and falsely use mouth to spoil others' image. igbo unity is FAKE! they kill themselves for money with ease. Unlike igbos, Yorubas know that LIFE is more than money. Cynthia, that beautiful girl was severally Molested and killed by 4 igbos for money. This year alone so many ritual killings in igbo land, 38 people were killed and dumped in a Ezu River in Anambra, 12 toddlers were killed in another...several unresolved killings for money in igbo land, what a people. igbos are fools,and bloody senseless liars like achebe,twisting history. I don't know any other tribe that is as ungrateful as d igbos. d Thoughtful Yorubas accepts them like brothers yet they rant about us. They are cowards, hausas are slaughtering their brothers like rams in the North, they do nothing.igbos always think they r d wisest and that is why they are fools who think life is only about money.igbos r d Genesis of d problem of dis country,traitors who spared their greedy leaders in January 29,1966 Coup.The civil war would not have happened. Yorubas don't betray, read history, ur useless father azikwe started d betrayal thing when Awolowo helped him to d top and he didn't fulfill his part of their agreement.in d January 1966 igbo coup,Brgd Ademulegun, Col Fajuyi and other Great Youruba Millitary Men were killed, as usual d ever deceitful igbos, against the agreement, told their greedy leaders to skedaddle. igbos must apologize to d Yorubas now!d YORUBAS are already uniting and getting ready for u people.igbos or hausas, what u want is want u shall get from us,Peace or War![/b]

yemicoal:
wow, tot you were IBO all this while, your face n monicker all igboish.

Yea u can say dat again!many pple tinks m igbo..sum even argue dah i av an igbo blood

Why is all our life about tribal issues? Why can't we see ourselves as nigerians? Even as black people. If the Yorubas have more influence in North and South America, why can't we all celebrate what they achieved? Do we need to start a tribal war?

if you have ever lived and worked in North america, you will understand that a nigga is simply a nigga. There's no such thing as igbo or yoruba niggas. Nigga has only one colour. We all know what that colour is.

Let's celebrate our blackness and leave tribe alone.

The real omoluabi ill like contribute to this there is something so special about yoruba we dont really immitate or copy from others




ile yoruba ati omo yoruba oni baje lapapo

mainman7:
[b]Yes you are definitely right. Right from time, Yorubas valued the sanctity of life and were not rushing to sell their brethren for money unlike the igbos, until the colonial masters' violent raid could no more be withstood and they started taking slaves. igbos are fools,and bloody senseless liars like achebe,twisting history. igbos rather flatter themselves and falsely use mouth to spoil others' image. igbo unity is FAKE! they kill themselves for money with ease. Unlike igbos, Yorubas know that LIFE is more than money. Cynthia, that beautiful girl was severally Molested and killed by 4 igbos for money. This year alone so many ritual killings in igbo land, 38 people were killed and dumped in a Ezu River in Anambra, 12 toddlers were killed in another...several unresolved killings for money in igbo land, what a people. igbos are fools,and bloody senseless liars like achebe,twisting history. I don't know any other tribe that is as ungrateful as d igbos. d Thoughtful Yorubas accepts them like brothers yet they rant about us. They are cowards, hausas are slaughtering their brothers like rams in the North, they do nothing.igbos always think they r d wisest and that is why they are fools who think life is only about money.igbos r d Genesis of d problem of dis country,traitors who spared their greedy leaders in January 29,1966 Coup.The civil war would not have happened. Yorubas don't betray, read history, ur useless father azikwe started d betrayal thing when Awolowo helped him to d top and he didn't fulfill his part of their agreement.in d January 1966 igbo coup,Brgd Ademulegun, Col Fajuyi and other Great Youruba Millitary Men were killed, as usual d ever deceitful igbos, against the agreement, told their greedy leaders to skedaddle. igbos must apologize to d Yorubas now!d YORUBAS are already uniting and getting ready for u people.igbos or hausas, what u want is want u shall get from us,Peace or War![/b]

must you smear this informative and educative post with dark colours of tribalism? Well, some people are so naïve, so gullible that they can't rise from their low and insipid level of intelligence. We have a name for people like you. We call such a person 'Onye Iberirbe.' The name can be likened to a person that sold his matchet and went to war with the sheat.

tonychristopher:
hope the other aspect of yoruba culture was retain like dirtyness,back bitting, fetishness, infedelity and cowardice.... i hope the so call accross pacific ocean retain this.DOES THIS CHANGE THE PRICE OF CRUDE OIL IN THE MARKET PLACE...B.U.LL.SH.I.T.T

Ore, this is a useful knowledge sharing exercise but you decided to show how averse you are to knowledge in preference to being a slave of ignorance birthed by patent empty ethnicity. Why are you and people like you on this platform doing this? Please let's have a change of thought and attitude for once in our own interest in Nigeria. We should concentrate on our pluses to better our lives.

Whaooooooooooo

What an interesting thread.

Omo Yoruba Ni Mi Oooooooooooo


Suwaggar.

Yoruba get Mouth like Shakabulla

mainman7:
[b]Yes you are definitely right. Right from time, Yorubas valued the sanctity of life and were not rushing to sell their brethren for money unlike the igbos, until the colonial masters' violent raid could no more be withstood and they started taking slaves. igbos are fools,and bloody senseless liars like achebe,twisting history. igbos rather flatter themselves and falsely use mouth to spoil others' image. igbo unity is FAKE! they kill themselves for money with ease. Unlike igbos, Yorubas know that LIFE is more than money. Cynthia, that beautiful girl was severally Molested and killed by 4 igbos for money. This year alone so many ritual killings in igbo land, 38 people were killed and dumped in a Ezu River in Anambra, 12 toddlers were killed in another...several unresolved killings for money in igbo land, what a people. igbos are fools,and bloody senseless liars like achebe,twisting history. I don't know any other tribe that is as ungrateful as d igbos. d Thoughtful Yorubas accepts them like brothers yet they rant about us. They are cowards, hausas are slaughtering their brothers like rams in the North, they do nothing.igbos always think they r d wisest and that is why they are fools who think life is only about money.igbos r d Genesis of d problem of dis country,traitors who spared their greedy leaders in January 29,1966 Coup.The civil war would not have happened. Yorubas don't betray, read history, ur useless father azikwe started d betrayal thing when Awolowo helped him to d top and he didn't fulfill his part of their agreement.in d January 1966 igbo coup,Brgd Ademulegun, Col Fajuyi and other Great Youruba Millitary Men were killed, as usual d ever deceitful igbos, against the agreement, told their greedy leaders to skedaddle. igbos must apologize to d Yorubas now!d YORUBAS are already uniting and getting ready for u people.igbos or hausas, what u want is want u shall get from us,Peace or War![/b]

Oma se o! na ontop eba igbo you go die put! a very hot one! igbo man done tiff ya babe i am sure nonsense next time you see an igbo person jump into the lagoon. anuofia rere'ere.

Adiwana:

i hate reading things like this.we are in a world where countries depend on other countries' inputs&thus cant do without others.IF NOT russia's economy should depend on itself despite the sanctions,but they are struggling.just as a person cant be an island so it is in terms of cultures.no dey try claim tribal superority.igbos contribute to yoruba,yoruba to Hausa and so on.am sure that some of the things you do were borrowed from other cultures&so do others borrow from you.the world is evolving,so stop being SENTIMENTAL

No tribe contributed anything to the Yorubas... All other tribes had to rush down to Yoruba region to be successful..

The Yorubas contribute a lot to the rest of Nigeria. Some tribes wouldn't be where they are today if the Yorubas weren't a tolerating tribe.

A lot of families from other tribes are successful today because the Yorubas gave them the enabling environment to succeed.

tonychristopher:
hope the other aspect of yoruba culture was retain like dirtyness,back bitting, fetishness, infedelity and cowardice.... i hope the so call accross pacific ocean retain this.DOES THIS CHANGE THE PRICE OF CRUDE OIL IN THE MARKET PLACE...B.U.LL.SH.I.T.T

So o ti pe ti were yi ti ntu itukutu. So he don tay you start dis madness!

The level of knowledge being shown here by Yoruba's and igbo is quite unbelievable....kudos to this wonderful set of historians here just a shame that some assholes are making it Bigotry....

Eluwilussit:
Why is all our life about tribal issues? Why can't we see ourselves as nigerians? Even as black people. If the Yorubas have more influence in North and South America, why can't we all celebrate what they achieved? Do we need to start a tribal war?

if you have ever lived and worked in North america, you will understand that a nigga is simply a nigga. There's no such thing as igbo or yoruba niggas. Nigga has only one colour. We all know what that colour is.

Let's celebrate our blackness and leave tribe alone.

Some people can't tolerate and respect another person lifestyle and culture. It's a part of life.

FXKing2012:
Because Yorubas used "juju"...

This is pure sentiment, talking abt "juju" ? Igbos are top ranked

Adiwana:

i hate reading things like this.we are in a world where countries depend on other countries' inputs&thus cant do without others.IF NOT russia's economy should depend on itself despite the sanctions,but they are struggling.just as a person cant be an island so it is in terms of cultures.no dey try claim tribal superority.igbos contribute to yoruba,yoruba to Hausa and so on.am sure that some of the things you do were borrowed from other cultures&so do others borrow from you.the world is evolving,so stop being SENTIMENTAL

I support your opinion. I am Yoruba man and want to enjoy this knowledge sharing. Empty ethnic jingoism doesn't add up.