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Is The Pope Really A Catholic? by swaggzo(m): 5:33pm On Apr 02, 2013
Please and Please...

The contents of this solemn write up is based squarely on not just my own views, but on the views of some of us seeking for nothing else but the truth.. The truth which shall set mankind free.

At this stage of your life as a civilized adult, you should be aware of the happenings that can be described as the signs of the "End Time". Well if you aren't aware, Its a pity then.

I'm a Catholic.. A very devoted one for that matter. But when religious arguments come up I don't engage in any.All I say is "Let's forget all these things for now, we'll know who is right or wrong on the last day when we shall meet our own judgment". And that's what I've been using as a defence mechanism (if I may use that).
But coming back to think of that, I'm a type of person that always think about the obvious. I don't argue over religious matters not because maybe I'm dumb or I'm less educated or something..But because the allegations against Christians (especially Catholics) are 80% true. And being a diplomatic type of person I stand neither for good nor bad.. I just stand for myself.

Before you can understand this thread and its meaning you have to know about the Illuminati, and the new world order..


"When the time
comes finally
to destroy the
papal
court...we shall
come forward
in the guise of
its
defenders...By
this diversion
we shall
penetrate to its very bowels and be sure we
shall never come out again until we have
gnawed through the entire strength of this
place." Protocols of the Elders of Zion-17

On New Years Day 2004 former Pope John
Paul II called for a "new world order... based
on the goals of the United Nations."

When a world leader uses this terminology, it
can only mean one thing. He is a
part of the Luciferian conspiracy to create a
totalitarian world government.
According to Piers Compton, a former
Catholic priest, the Papacy was actually
subverted by the Illuminati in 1958 when
John XXIII became Pope. This was the
culmination of a 200-year campaign to
infiltrate and destroy the Catholic Church.
Piers Compton was the Literary Editor of the
Catholic Weekly The Universe for 14 years.
He documents his claims in The Broken
Cross, (1981) a book that is almost
impossible to find because it was
mysteriously withdrawn a few weeks after
its release. It is now available online.
Compton traces the modern phase of the
Luciferian Conspiracy to Adam Weishaupt
who established the Illuminati on May 1,
1776.
"[Weishhaupt] was backed financially, as are
most if not all anarchistic leaders, by a group
of bankers under the House of Rothschild. It
was under their direction that the long range
and worldwide plans of the Illuminati were
drawn up." (cool
In 1783, the Illuminati assumed control of
much of Freemasonry, which secretly
coordinated the revolutionary movement
(Liberalism, Socialism, and Communism.)
According to David Bay, "secret societies
like the "Skull and Bones" have always
functioned as Satan's church, as the only
way to pass the baton from generation to
generation."
The Illuminati regarded the Catholic Church
as their chief enemy and marked it for ruin.
In 1818, their Italian lodge issued a set of
Permanent Instructions that included: "We
require a Pope for ourselves...to march more
securely to the storming of the church...."
The goal was "the complete annihilation of
the Catholicism and even ultimately of
Christianity. If Christianity were to revive,
even upon the ruins of Rome, it would, a little
later revive and live." (13-14)

POPE LEO XIII
In an Encyclical Dec. 8, 1892 Pope Leo XIII
identified two Kingdoms. "The one is the
kingdom of God on earth, namely, the true
Church of Jesus Christ; and those who desire
from their heart to be united with it...The
other is the kingdom of Satan...those who
refuse to obey the divine and eternal law, and
who have many aims of their own in
contempt of God, and many aims also against
God."
Throughout history they have been in
conflict.
"At this period, however, the partisans of evil
seems to be combining together, and to be
struggling with united vehemence, led on or
assisted by that strongly organized and
widespread association called the
Freemasons. No longer making any secret of
their purposes, they are now boldly rising up
against God Himself."
Ironically, when Leo XIII died in 1903, a
Freemason, Cardinal Mariano Rampolla, was
almost elected Pope. Emperor Franz Joseph
of Austria vetoed his appointment in the last
moment. .
The Illuminists had to wait another 55 years
to gain control of the Papacy. When Pope
Pius XII died in 1958, a Freemason Cardinal
Angello Roncalli, became Pope John XXIII.
Predictably, his first act was to begin to
remove the element of Divine Revelation
from Catholic teaching, and to embrace
naturalism, materialism and Communism.
These steps were taken at the Ecumenical
Council in 1962 and Vatican Two in 1965.
As a result, Malachi Martin, a former Jesuit,
predicted the Roman Catholic Church would
no longer be recognizable by the year 2000.
"There will be no centralized control, no
uniformity in teaching, no universality in
practice and worship, prayer, sacrifice and
priesthood." (63)

POPE PAUL VI
Cardinal Giovanni Montini, who succeeded
John XXIII as Pope Paul VI in 1963, was also
a Freemason and socialist. (In 1944 Pope
Pius XII had dismissed him as Vatican
Secretary of State for conducting secret
negotiations with the Communists. 53)
Paul VI revealed his true colors in a speech
to the United Nations in 1965: "It is your task
here to proclaim the basic rights and duties
of Man. You are the interpreters of all that is
permanent in human wisdom; we could
almost say of its sacred character." (67)
This repudiation of the church's spiritual
authority was symbolized by Paul's gift of
the Papal Ring and his Pectoral Cross to
Secretary General U Thant who sold them at
an auction. (71)
The United Nations was set up on land
donated by the Rockefellers as a front for
the elite's Luciferian dictatorship. Its Charter
was based on the Constitution of Soviet
Russia and its leaders were Communists. It's
Chapel is dedicated to paganism and run by
the Lucis Trust (formerly Lucifer Trust)
which also handles all its publications.


THE BROKEN CROSS
Paul VI also embraced a sinister symbol
used by Satanists in the Sixth Century, which
had been revived by Vatican Two.
This was a bent or broken cross on which
was displayed a repulsive and distorted
figure of Christ. Black magicians and
sorcerers in the Middle Ages had used it for
occult purposes. It represented the "Mark of
the Beast."
Compton:" Yet not only Paul VI but also his
successors the two John Pauls carried that
object and held it up to be revered by crowds
who had not the slightest idea that it stood
for the anti Christ." (72)
Paul VI abolished the anti-Modernist Oath,
the Index of forbidden books, and revised the
Canon Laws. History and texts written from a
predominantly Catholic point of view were
re-edited. He encouraged "humanist"
theologians like Edward Schillebeeckx who
taught that the "the most honest and natural
man was one who believed nothing." (105)
In 1976, the Journal Borghese printed a list of
125 top clerics who were Freemasons in
contravention of Church law. It included their
dates of initiation and secret code names
taken from the Italian Register of Secret
Societies. Compton prints the list, which
includes the heads of Vatican radio and
press, Catholic education as well as
numerous high officials, Cardinals and
Archbishops.
Because Paul VI was Pope, nothing came of
it. Sounding very much like the Mason he
was, Paul said in 1969: "We are about to
witness a greater freedom in the life of the
Church...fewer obligations and fewer inward
prohibitions. Formal disciplines will be
reduced...every form of intolerance will be
abolished." (104)
This attitude is explained by reports that
from 1936-1950, the future Paul VI was part
of a Communist espionage network, a part
owner in a chain of brothels and financed
erotic films. (110)


POPES JOHN PAUL I AND II
Alibino Lucano, the Cardinal of Venice
became Pope John Paul I on August 26 1978.
He was also a "committed Left-winger" but
he may have taken issue with the Vatican's
financial shenanigans because he was dead
a month later. There was no autopsy.
Pope John Paul II, Karol Wojtyla, succeeded
him. Wojtyla is the first non-Italian since
1522, and the only Pope from an Iron Curtain
country. Compton notes that while the other
Polish Cardinal Wyszynski "never yielded an
inch" to the Communists, Wojtyla opposed
this attitude and collaborated. The Abbe de
Nantes exclaimed, "We have a Communist
Pope."
During the Conclave at which he was elected,
Wojtyla read from a book of Marxist
principles. In his first Encyclical, he praised
Paul VI for having "revealed the true
countenance of the Church" and bringing it in
step "with the times." He went so far as to
say that opponents of Vatican Two "cannot
be considered the faithful." (172)
In a letter Sept 1, 1981 he said, "Christian
tradition has never upheld the right of private
property as absolute and untouchable." This
contradicts numerous Encyclicals which
state that private property is "a necessary
incentive to human enterprise" and in
accordance with divine wisdom and the laws
of nature.
Pope Pius XII: "Only private enterprise can
provide the head of a family with the healthy
freedom it requires to carry out the duties
allotted to him by the Creator for the
physical, spiritual and religious well being of
the family." (174)
Communism (state ownership) is a facade by
which the bankers and monopoly capitalists
will own everything.
On Nov. 27, 1983 Pope John Paul II issued a
Papal Bull that legalized secret society
membership for Roman Catholics.
While ostensibly a celibate priest, Compton
suggests that Woytyla's behavior resembled
a Bohemian artist. He was involved in
theatre in Poland and penned a play about
prostitution. Compton reproduces pictures of
him when he was a Bishop or Cardinal. He is
with a woman and child on a beach. The child
is climbing on him. They look very much like
a family.
In 1960, he published a book "Love and
Responsibility" which extolled sexual love
and describes both the physiology and
psychology of sex. He told an audience of
French youth: "Bodily union has always been
the strongest language two people can have
for each other."



CONCLUSION
Writing from the vantage point of 1981,
Compton predicted that the Church's
traditional positions will continue to be
watered down.
Around the same time, Malachi Martin said,
"The Christian church is decaying, has
nothing to say and is on the way out." He
added that the other great religions are
suffering the same fate and predicted, "A
worldwide religion with one structure and
institutions," managed by "one great
bureaucracy. And out of that will emerge the
ultimate disaster."
I present this material because it is
consistent with the emerging picture of an
organized Satanic Conspiracy to subvert
mankind.
Only in this light can we identify the lures of
the modern world -- consumerism, the
mystification of sexual love, and the social
engineering associated with feminism,
zionism, gay rights, tolerance, diversity -- as
part of a diabolical process of spiritual,
mental and physical enslavement.
"Modern" western society appears to be
based on this conspiracy against God. Our
cultural and political leaders are mostly
witting or unwitting accomplices.
Eventually we will learn that real freedom
lies in obeying God. The alternative is to
become Lucifer's slave. The barbarism of the
past century was not an aberration, but a
harbinger of the future.




Be wise.. we have not had a Catholic pope since 1958.
If I have anything to add to the discussion
then you can see it on
http://ourgodortheirs..com
It should be plain to all Catholics that we
have had antipopes for fifty years now.
However, for the majority God has blinded
their hearts just as he blinded the Jews.
What we are now witnessing in the Catholic
Church is Israel (old) versus Israel (new)
Good luck and may God lead you into the
truth to be found only in the eclipsed
Catholic Church.
Re: Is The Pope Really A Catholic? by Nobody: 5:41pm On Apr 02, 2013
Brother, the catholic church is the ILLUMINATI, the Jesuits are it's enforcers and their plans have been building up for over a thousands years now.

There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that the catholic church stands for the Harlot as described in revelation 17:5 and that she will produce the final MAN of Sin, because really , the MAN of SIN's office has existed since the catholic church existed.

If there is anyone pushing hard for a one world order , it is the POPE.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGa0i2DvQiM
Re: Is The Pope Really A Catholic? by swaggzo(m): 12:06am On Apr 04, 2013
frosbel: Brother, the catholic church is the ILLUMINATI, the Jesuits are it's enforcers and their plans have been building up for over a thousands years now.

There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that the catholic church stands for the Harlot as described in revelation 17:5 and that she will produce the final MAN of Sin, because really , the MAN of SIN's office has existed since the catholic church existed.

If there is anyone pushing hard for a one world order , it is the POPE.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGa0i2DvQiM


Lol. Frosbel i know you. I've been reading your posts on that religeous thread. You're obviously an anti-catholic.. cheesy
Re: Is The Pope Really A Catholic? by Pygru: 12:18am On Apr 04, 2013
swaggzo:

Lol. Frosbel i know you. I've been reading your posts on that religeous thread. You're obviously an anti-catholic.. cheesy
grin
Re: Is The Pope Really A Catholic? by woky: 5:14am On Apr 04, 2013
hmmmmm.. intrestin, bt dat wont stop me 4rm being a catholic.. I love the catholic church and i love the pope. proudly catholic!

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Re: Is The Pope Really A Catholic? by Ubenedictus(m): 10:43am On Apr 04, 2013
My dear op, u have been grossly misinformed, your source is a sedevacatist, which puts him/her as a possible heretic.
The catholic church has nothing to do with illuminati, a new world order isn't talk about by the illuminati alone! A catholic can't be in illuminati. Canon law expressly excomunicate all free masons. Simply put a free mason can't be a catholic.
Re: Is The Pope Really A Catholic? by shdemidemi(m): 11:43am On Apr 04, 2013
frosbel: Brother, the catholic church is the ILLUMINATI, the Jesuits are it's enforcers and their plans have been building up for over a thousands years now.

There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that the catholic church stands for the Harlot as described in revelation 17:5 and that she will produce the final MAN of Sin, because really , the MAN of SIN's office has existed since the catholic church existed.

If there is anyone pushing hard for a one world order , it is the POPE.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGa0i2DvQiM


Praying against the catholic or the Pope is against the will of God.
Our prayers cannot stop the son of perdition. The Bible talked about the mystery of inequity and we all know it is present at this point in time.
When the time is right, the man behind the mask will be revealed and killed by Christ . His followers will be condemned forever.
Then, we that are for the faith will be relieved of our sufferings in this world.
If anything we should be praying their plans work cos that is a clear indication that the coming of Christ is near.
Re: Is The Pope Really A Catholic? by Anyigala(m): 11:48am On Apr 04, 2013
"Becuase 80% of allegations against the Catholic Church are true". Not to be hard on you, i think you are a lazy Catholic. Catholic Church is 2000 yrs old with 2000 yrs history. Has she made mistakes in the past yes, will she still make mistakes in the future, yes. Are 80% of "allegations" against RCC true, well i don't have to respond to that as you correctly pointed out that they are all "allegations".
The fact is that if you google or search Catholic Church on Youtube, you will be amazed what She has been alleged to be or have done, 666, LovePeddler of babylon, Illuminati, canibals, Hitler and Stalin supporters, Killer of Science and etc. The truth is that its so easy to watch these clips or read a book by some discruntled ex-catholic priest or whoever, but to know the true and be a better judge, you have to hear Catholic Church's side of the story before you stamp your "80%" truth allegation theory. This is why i called you a "lazy Catholic" (no offence).
You see, i use to be like you few years ago with the " i don't do religion arguement" line until i was challanged to stand up for what i believe in and i started reading what the Catholic Church teaches and stands for and the history of the Church and Christianity. I will encourage you to start reading what your Church is all about and be able to defend it because 90% of the "allegation against the Church is just allegations with no substance what so ever when you challenge them.
Re: Is The Pope Really A Catholic? by Anyigala(m): 11:53am On Apr 04, 2013
Custodi di Quella Fede
His Holiness Pope Leo XIII
On Freemasonry
December 8, 1892
To the Italian People
.

Guardians of that faith to which the Christian nations owe their morality and civil redemption, We must dutifully discharge each one of Our supreme tasks. Therefore We must raise Our voice in loud protestations against the impious war which tries to take such a precious treasure away from you, beloved children. Already taught by long and sorrowful experience, you know well the terrible trials of this war, you who deplore it in your hearts as Catholics and as Italians. Can one be Italian in name and sentiment and not resent these continual offenses against divine beliefs? These beliefs are the most beautiful of our glories, for they gave to Italy its primacy over the other nations and to Rome the spiritual scepter of the world. They likewise made the wonderful edifice of Christian civilization rise over the ruins of paganism and barbarism.

Can we be Catholic in mind and heart and gaze with dry eyes on that land where our wondrous Redeemer deigned to establish the seat of His kingdom? Now We see His teachings attacked and His reverence outraged, His Church embattled and His Vicar opposed. So many souls redeemed by His blood are now lost, the choicest portion of His flock, a people faithful to Him for nineteen centuries. How can We bear to look upon His chosen people exposed to a constant and ever-present danger of apostasy, pushed toward error and vice, material miseries, and moral degradation?

2. This war is directed at the same time against the heavenly and the earthly kingdoms, against the faith of our ancestors and the culture which they handed on to us. It is thus doubly evil, being guilty of a divine offense no less than a human one. Is its chief source not that very masonic sect which We discussed at length in the encyclical "Humanum genus" of April 20, 1884, and in the more recent one of October 15, 1890, addressed to the bishops, the clergy and the Italian people? With these two letters We tore from the face of masonry the mask which it used to hide itself and We showed it in its crude deformity and dark fatal activity.

3. We shall restrict Ourselves now to its deplorable effects on Italy. For a long time now it has bored its way under the deceitful guise of a philanthropic society and redeemer of the Italian people. By way of conspiracies, corruptions, and violences, it has finally come to dominate Italy and even Rome. To what troubles, to what calamities has it opened the way in a little more than thirty years?

4. Our country has seen and suffered great evils in such a short span of time, for the faith of our fathers has been made a sign for persecutions of every sort. The satanic intent of the persecutors has been to substitute naturalism for Christianity, the worship of reason for the worship of faith, so-called independent morality for Catholic morality, and material progress for spiritual progress. To the holy maxims and laws of the Gospel, they have opposed laws and maxims which can be called the code of revolution. They have also opposed an atheistic doctrine and a vile realism to school, science, and the Christian arts. Having invaded the temple of the Lord, they have squandered the booty of the Church's goods, the greatest part of the inheritance necessary for the ministers, and reduced the number of priests by the conscription of clerics beyond the limits of extreme need. If the administration of the sacraments could not be impeded, they sought nonetheless to introduce and promote civil marriages and funerals. If they have not yet succeeded in seizing control of education and the direction of charitable institutions, they always aim with perseverance to laicize everything, which is to remove the mark of Christianity from it. If they could not silence the voice of the Catholic press, they made every effort to discredit and revile it.

5. In this battle against the Catholic religion, what partiality and contradictions there are! They closed monasteries and convents, but they let multiply at will masonic lodges and sectarian dens. They proclaimed the right of association, while the legal rights which all kinds of organizations use and abuse are denied to religious societies. They proclaim freedom of religion and reserve odious intolerance and vexations precisely for the religion of the Italians--which, for that reason, should be assured respect and a special protection. They made protests and great promises for the protection of the dignity and independence of the pope, but you see their daily contempt of Our person. All kinds of public shows find an open field; yet this or that Catholic demonstration is either prohibited or disturbed. They encourage schisms, apostasies, and revolts against legitimate superiors in the Church. Religious vows and especially religious obedience are rebuked as contrary to human dignity and freedom, while impious associations which bind their followers by wicked oaths and demand blind, absolute obedience in crime are allowed to flourish with impunity.

6. We do not wish to exaggerate the masonic power by attributing to its direct and immediate action all the evils which presently preoccupy Us. However, you can clearly see its spirit in the facts which We have just recorded and in many others which We could recall. That spirit, which is the implacable enemy of Christ and of the Church, tries all ways, uses all arts, and prevails upon all means. It seizes from the Church its first-born daughter and seizes from Christ His favored nation, the seat of His Vicar on earth and the center of Catholic unity. To see the evil and efficacious influence of this spirit on our affairs, We have more than a few fleeting indications and the series of facts which have succeeded themselves for thirty years. Proud of its successes, the sect herself has spoken out and told us all its past accomplishments and future goals. It regards the public powers as its instruments, witting or not, which is to say that the impious sect boasts as one of its principal works the religious persecution which has troubled and is troubling our Italy. Though often executed by other hands, this persecution is inspired and promoted by masonry, in an immediate or mediate, direct or indirect manner, by flattery or threats, seduction or revolution.

7. The road is very short from religious to social ruin. The heart of man is no longer raised to heavenly hopes and loves; capable and needing the infinite, it throws itself insatiably on the goods of this earth. Inevitably there is a perpetual struggle of avid passions to enjoy, become rich, and rise. Then we encounter a large and inexhaustible source of grudges, discords, corruptions, and crimes. In our Italy there was no lack of moral and social disorders before the present events--but what a sorrowful spectacle we see in our days! That loving respect which forms domestic harmony is substantially diminished; paternal authority is too often unrecognized by children and parents alike. Disagreements are frequent, divorce common. Civil discords and resentful anger between the various orders increase every day in the cities. New generations which grew up in a spirit of misunderstood freedom are unleashed in the cities, generations which do not respect anything from above or below. The cities teem with incitements to vice, precocious crimes, and public scandals. The state should be content with the high and noble office of recognizing, protecting, and helping divine and human rights in their harmonious universality. Now, however, the state believes itself almost a judge and disowns these rights or restricts them at will. Finally, the general social order is undermined at its foundations. Books and journals, schools and universities, clubs and theaters, monuments and political discourse, photographs and the fine arts, everything conspires to pervert minds and corrupt hearts. Meanwhile the oppressed and suffering people tremble and the anarchic sects arouse themselves. The working classes raise their heads and go to swell the ranks of socialism, communism, and anarchy. Characters exhaust themselves and many souls, no longer knowing how to suffer nobly nor how to redeem themselves manfully, take their lives with cowardly suicide.

8. Such are the fruits which the masonic sect has borne to us Italians. And after that it yearns to come before you, extolling its merits towards Italy. It likewise yearns to give Us and all those who, heeding Our words, remain faithful to Jesus Christ, the calumnious title of enemies of the state. The facts reveal the merits of this guilty sect toward our peninsula, "merits" which bear repeating. The facts say that masonic patriotism is no less than sectarian egotism which yearns to dominate everything, particularly the modern states which unite and concentrate everything in their hands. The facts say that in the plans of masonry, the names of political independence, equality, civilization, and progress aimed to facilitate the independence of man from God in our country. From them, license of error and vice and union of faction at the expense of other citizens have grown. The easy and delicious enjoyment of life by the world's fortunate is nurtured in the same source. A people redeemed by divine blood have thus returned to divisions, corruptions, and the shames of paganism.

9. That does not surprise Us.--After nineteen centuries of Christian civilization, this sect tries to overthrow the Catholic Church and to cut off its divine sources. It absolutely denies the supernatural, repudiating every revelation and all the means of salvation which revelation shows us. Through its plans and works, it bases itself solely and entirely on such a weak and corrupt nature as ours. Such a sect cannot be anything other than the height of pride, greed, and sensuality. Now, pride oppresses, greed plunders, and sensuality corrupts. When these three concupiscences are brought to the extreme, the oppressions, greed, and seductive corruptions spread slowly. They take on boundless dimensions and become the oppression, plundering and source of corruption of an entire people.

10. Let Us then show you masonry as an enemy of God, Church, and country. Recognize it as such once and for all, and with all the weapons which reason, conscience, and faith put in your hands, defend yourselves from such a proud foe. Let no one be taken in by its attractive appearance or allured by its promises; do not be seduced by its enticements or frightened by its threats. Remember that Christianity and masonry are essentially irreconcilable, such that to join one is to divorce the other. You can no longer ignore such incompatibility between Catholic and mason, beloved children: you have been warned openly by Our predecessors, and We have loudly repeated the warning.

11. Those who, by some supreme misfortune, have given their name to one of these societies of perdition should know that they are strictly bound to separate themselves from it. Otherwise they must remain separated from Christian communion and lose their soul now and for eternity. Parents, teachers, godparents, and whoever has care of others should also know that a rigorous duty binds them to keep their wards from this guilty sect or to draw them from it if they have already entered.

12. In a matter of such importance and where the seduction is so easy in these times, it is urgent that the Christian watch himself from the beginning. He should fear the least danger, avoid every occasion, and take the greatest precautions. Use all the prudence of the serpent, while keeping in your heart the simplicity of the dove, according to the evangelical counsel. Fathers and mothers should be wary of inviting strangers into their homes or admitting them to domestic intimacy, at least insofar as their faith is not sufficiently known. They should try to first ascertain that an astute recruiter of the sect does not hide himself in the guise of a friend, teacher, doctor or other benefactor. Oh, in how many families has the wolf penetrated in sheep's clothing!

13. It is beautiful to see the varied groups which arise everywhere today in every order of social life: worker groups, groups of mutual aid and social security, organizations to promote science, arts, letters, and other similar things. When they are inspired by a good moral and religious spirit, these groups certainly prove to be useful and proper. But because the masonic poison has penetrated and continues to penetrate here also, especially here, any groups that remove themselves from religious influence should be generally suspect. They can easily be directed and more or less dominated by masons, becoming the sowing- ground and the apprenticeship of the sect in addition to providing assistance to it.

14. Women should not join philanthropic societies whose nature and purpose are not well-known without first seeking advice from wise and experienced people. That talkative philanthropy which is opposed to Christian charity with such pomp is often the passport for masonic business.

15. Everyone should avoid familiarity or friendship with anyone suspected of belonging to masonry or to affiliated groups. Know them by their fruits and avoid them. Every familiarity should be avoided, not only with those impious libertines who openly promote the character of the sect, but also with those who hide under the mask of universal tolerance, respect for all religions, and the craving to reconcile the maxims of the Gospel with those of the revolution. These men seek to reconcile Christ and Belial, the Church of God and the state without God

16. Every Christian should shun books and journals which distill the poison of impiety and which stir up the fire of unrestrained desires or sensual passions. Groups and reading clubs where the masonic spirit stalks its prey should be likewise shunned.

17. In addition, since we are dealing with a sect which has pervaded everything, it is not enough to remain on the defensive. We must courageously go out into the battlefield and confront it. That is what you will do, beloved children, opposing press to press, school to school, organization to organization, congress to congress, action to action.

18. Masonry has taken control of the public schools, leaving private schools, paternal schools, and those directed by zealous ecclesiastics and religious of both sexes to compete in the education of Christian youth. Christian parents especially should not entrust the education of their children to uncertain schools. Masonry has confiscated the inheritance of public charity; fill the void, then, with the treasure of private relief. It has placed pious works in the hands of its followers, so you should entrust those that depend on you to Catholic institutions. It opens and maintains houses of vice, leaving you to do what is possible to open and maintain shelters for honesty in danger. An anti-Christian press in religious and secular matters militates at its expense, so that your effort and money are required by the Catholic press. Masonry establishes societies of mutual help and credit unions for its partisans; you should do the same not only for your brothers but for all the indigent. This will show that true and sincere charity is the daughter of the One who makes the sun to rise and the rain to fall on the just man and sinner alike.

19. May this struggle between good and evil extend to everything, and may good prevail. Masonry holds frequent meetings to plan new ways to combat the Church, and you should hold them frequently to better agree on the means and order of defense. It multiplies its lodges, so that you should multiply Catholic clubs and parochial groups, promote charitable associations and prayer organizations, and maintain and increase the splendor of the temple of God. The sect, having nothing to fear, today shows its face to the light of day. You Italian Catholics should also make open profession of your faith and follow the example of your glorious ancestors who confessed their faith bravely before tyrants, torture, and death. What more? Does the sect try to enslave the Church and to put it at the feet of the state as a humble servant? You must then demand and claim for it the freedom and independence due it before the law. Does masonry seek to tear apart Catholic unity, sowing discord even in the clergy itself, arousing quarrels, fomenting strife, and inciting insubordination, revolt, and schism? By tightening the sacred bond of charity and obedience, you can thwart its plans, bring to naught its efforts, and disappoint its hopes. Be all of one heart and one mind, like the first Christians. Gathered around the See of Peter and united to your pastors, protect the supreme interests of Church and papacy, which are just as much the supreme interests of Italy and of all the Christian world. The Apostolic See has always been the inspirer and jealous guardian of Italian glory. Therefore, be Italians and Catholics, free and non-sectarian, faithful to the nation as well as to Christ and His visible Vicar. An anti-Christian and antipapal Italy would truly be opposed to the divine plan, and thus condemned to perish.

20. Beloved children, faith and state speak to you at this time through Us. Listen to their cry, arise together and fight manfully the battles of the Lord. May the number, boldness, and strength of the enemy not frighten you, because God is stronger than they; if God is for you, who can be against you?

21. Redouble your prayers so that God might be with you in a greater abundance of grace, fighting and triumphing with you. Accompany your prayers with the practice of the Christian virtues, especially charity toward the needy. Seek God's mercies with humility and perseverance, renewing every day the promises of your baptism.

22. As a pledge of these things and as a sign of Our paternal love, We bestow on you Our apostolic blessing, beloved children.

Given in Rome at Saint Peter's, the eighth day of December, 1892, in the fifteenth year of Our pontificate.
Re: Is The Pope Really A Catholic? by Anyigala(m): 12:00pm On Apr 04, 2013
What Catholic Church and two of the last Popes said about Freemason.

"Freemasonry is a post collegiate male fraternity dedicated to the spiritual development of the initiate into a broader sense of the self, and the initiates as he relates to the divine and their relative place in the world."

"The two cardinal rules not to talk about in lodge are religion and politics, as Freemasonry is concerned specifically with neither. The practice of Freemasonry does promote and teach a sort of ecumenical philosophy of tolerance, which is the over arching idea. It does not imply one system of politics or religion is right or wrong."

For almost 300 years, the Church has warned its flock about the dangers of Freemasonry, since its beliefs, teachings, and practices are so opposed to what the Church teaches. For this reason, any Catholic who is a Mason is automatically excommunicated from the Church, and cannot receive Holy Communion. Here is what Cardinal Ratzinger said in 1983, the last official pronouncement of the Church regarding Freemasonry:



Issued by the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith on November 26, 1983.

It has been asked whether there has been any change in the Church's decision in regard to Masonic associations since the new Code of Canon Law does not mention them expressly, unlike the previous Code.

This Sacred Congregation is in a position to reply that this circumstance is due to an editorial criterion which was followed also in the case of other associations likewise unmentioned inasmuch as they are contained in wider categories.

Therefore the Church's negative judgment in regard to Masonic associations remains unchanged since their principles have always been considered irreconcilable with the doctrine of the Church and therefore membership in them remains forbidden. The faithful who enroll in Masonic associations are in a state of grave sin and may not receive Holy Communion.

It is not within the competence of local ecclesiastical authorities to give a judgment on the nature of Masonic associations which would imply a derogation from what has been decided above, and this in line with the Declaration of this Sacred Congregation issued on 17 February 1981 (cf. AAS 73 [1981] pp. 240-241).

In an audience granted to the undersigned Cardinal Prefect, the Supreme Pontiff John Paul II approved and ordered the publication of this Declaration which had been decided in an ordinary meeting of this Sacred Congregation.

Rome, from the Office of the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, 26 November 1983.


JOSEPH Card. RATZINGER
Prefect


+ Fr. JEROME HAMER, O.P.
Titular Archbishop of Lorium
Secretary

During the early 20th Century, both Portugal and Mexico were taken over by Freemasons. The officials at Fatima, Portugal who persecuted the three children for their Virgin Mary visions were Masons. In Mexico, the Cristero War broke out as a result of the Masonic brotherhood in charge of the government limiting religious freedom in Mexico.



And never try to argue with a Freemason about what the Craft teaches. They are under orders from their Worshipful Master to not reveal anything about what really goes on behind the locked doors of their windowless lodges, shrines, and temples. Therefore, they will come up with evasive answers when you quote what Mackey, Coil, and Pike wrote about Freemasonry being a religion, like "Their writings are their own personal opinions, because no one person speaks for Freemasonry". Your immediate reply should be, "Well fine, then neither do you. Good Bye". In other cases, they will say that "Freemasonry is religious, but is not a religion." Truly smart people will understand that exchanging a noun with an adjective is nothing more than double-talk. Freemasons pray in their temples and shrines to the GAOTU, they have their own Masonic Bible, they have a resurrection ceremony, and they have a burial rite that gets the deceased into the "celestial lodge above". That's a religion!
Re: Is The Pope Really A Catholic? by Nobody: 12:05pm On Apr 04, 2013
frosbel: Brother, the catholic church is the ILLUMINATI, the Jesuits are it's enforcers and their plans have been building up for over a thousands years now.

There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that the catholic church stands for the Harlot as described in revelation 17:5 and that she will produce the final MAN of Sin, because really , the MAN of SIN's office has existed since the catholic church existed.

If there is anyone pushing hard for a one world order , it is the POPE.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGa0i2DvQiM


OBVIOUSLY grin
Re: Is The Pope Really A Catholic? by shdemidemi(m): 12:08pm On Apr 04, 2013
Anyigala: "Becuase 80% of allegations against the Catholic Church are true". Not to be hard on you, i think you are a lazy Catholic. Catholic Church is 2000 yrs old with 2000 yrs history. Has she made mistakes in the past yes, will she still make mistakes in the future, yes. Are 80% of "allegations" against RCC true, well i don't have to respond to that as you correctly pointed out that they are all "allegations".
The fact is that if you google or search Catholic Church on Youtube, you will be amazed what She has been alleged to be or have done, 666, LovePeddler of babylon, Illuminati, canibals, Hitler and Stalin supporters, Killer of Science and etc. The truth is that its so easy to watch these clips or read a book by some discruntled ex-catholic priest or whoever, but to know the true and be a better judge, you have to hear Catholic Church's side of the story before you stamp your "80%" truth allegation theory. This is why i called you a "lazy Catholic" (no offence).
You see, i use to be like you few years ago with the " i don't do religion arguement" line until i was challanged to stand up for what i believe in and i started reading what the Catholic Church teaches and stands for and the history of the Church and Christianity. I will encourage you to start reading what your Church is all about and be able to defend it because 90% of the "allegation against the Church is just allegations with no substance what so ever when you challenge them.


On the contrary why don't you seek the mind of God and learn what God is all about. Then compare to the traditions and customs of the RCC.
We have been warned of thirst things. We will be of no excuse. We have the oracle/word of God with us, lets read it.

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Re: Is The Pope Really A Catholic? by Anyigala(m): 3:46pm On Apr 04, 2013
And who told you i am not seeking the mind of God or are you now my Judge. Do you know my mind?
shdemidemi:

On the contrary why don't you seek the mind of God and learn what God is all about. Then compare to the traditions and customs of the RCC.
We have been warned of thirst things. We will be of no excuse. We have the oracle/word of God with us, lets read it.

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Re: Is The Pope Really A Catholic? by Ubenedictus(m): 4:52pm On Apr 04, 2013
Oga anyigala has showed both letter and statement by the catholic church that catholicism is incompartable with free masonry and that all masons are authomatically excommunicated.
Op, what more do you need?
Re: Is The Pope Really A Catholic? by shdemidemi(m): 5:45pm On Apr 04, 2013
Anyigala: And who told you i am not seeking the mind of God or are you now my Judge. Do you know my mind?


Well, good to know you read the Bible and you seek to know the mind of God. Who am I to judge you?
But these verse explain what would happen to people practicing what you are:

And with all deception of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

You can afford to be blindly loyal to issues of this world but when it comes to your soul, seek the truth cos there will b no excuses.

Do some research and find out who the son of perdition the bible talked about is.

CATHOLIC means UNIVERSAL
The RCC is not same as the Catholic Church.
Re: Is The Pope Really A Catholic? by Nobody: 5:54pm On Apr 04, 2013
shdemidemi:


Well, good to know you read the Bible and you seek to know the mind of God. Who am I to judge you?
But these verse explain what would happen to people practicing what you are:

And with all deception of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

You can afford to be blindly loyal to issues of this world but when it comes to your soul, seek the truth cos there will b no excuses.

Do some research and find out who the son of perdition the bible talked about is.

CATHOLIC means UNIVERSAL
The RCC is not same as the Catholic Church.

Good evening Shd,

For one who does not want to be the judge of others, you are really doing a great job at being the arbiter of members of the Catholic Church.

The way you guys go about with these end time conspiracies is quite alarming. Did you get a private revelation from God on the identity of this so called 'son of perdition' or did sacred scriptures reveal this to you?
Re: Is The Pope Really A Catholic? by italo: 10:17am On Apr 05, 2013
shdemidemi:
The RCC is not same as the Catholic Church.

So what is the "RCC," when did it start, and where can we find it?

And what is the "Catholic Church," when did it start, and where can we find it?

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