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Nigeria’s Zimbabwean Farmers: Nothing Like Chicken Feed by Nobody: 5:20pm On Apr 11, 2013 |
Why commercial farming in Nigeria is so hard Source |
Re: Nigeria’s Zimbabwean Farmers: Nothing Like Chicken Feed by ekoilee: 6:15pm On Apr 11, 2013 |
The only responsible government with enough competency and capacity to make this work is the lagos state government, but unfortunately, they don't have the land. Still they should just let them make use of the lands they acquired out of state and give them all the support the other governments lacks to make it work. |
Re: Nigeria’s Zimbabwean Farmers: Nothing Like Chicken Feed by Dibiachukwu: 6:26pm On Apr 11, 2013 |
Nigerians have been farming here with very little complaints. This is why the Nigerian farmer is the most suitable farmer to farm in Nigeria. Support Nigerian farmers. If all these facilities were available, don't you think the Nigerian farmer would do better too. |
Re: Nigeria’s Zimbabwean Farmers: Nothing Like Chicken Feed by redsun(m): 6:35pm On Apr 11, 2013 |
Nothing works nigeria,because there is nothing in place to make it work.The system frustrates itself. The ones that works are either the ones that grew from the concrete or the ones that are managed by the thieves themselves with our stolen monies,i.e,obasanjo's farm,tinubu's conglomerate,etc. |
Re: Nigeria’s Zimbabwean Farmers: Nothing Like Chicken Feed by Nobody: 6:57pm On Apr 11, 2013 |
The Spains have no mains electricity, no piped water, no land-line, no trained labour force, no one handy with basic accountancy, no available research facilities, no easy access to agricultural data. Roads are lousy. Theft is endemic. How accurate is it to say there are no research facilities in the North of Nigeria? I could dig into my own directory and furnish at least 10 such facilities that have attained varying degrees of success. It is either the case that these Zimbabwe farmers were allowed to set their expectations too high at the time they were recruited, or blatant lies are being sold here. Agricultural Research Council of Nigeria Agricultural Research House, Plot 223d Cadastral Zone B6 Mabushi, Abuja http://www.arcnigeria.org Farm Radio Network http://www.farmradionetwork.org International Institute of Tropical Agriculture (IITA), Kano http://www.iita.org/iita/kano Talon Nigeria Limited Abuja http://www.talonagro.com/ 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria’s Zimbabwean Farmers: Nothing Like Chicken Feed by Gbawe: 6:59pm On Apr 11, 2013 |
Dibiachukwu: Nigerians have been farming here with very little complaints. This is why the Nigerian farmer is the most suitable farmer to farm in Nigeria. Support Nigerian farmers. If all these facilities were available, don't you think the Nigerian farmer would do better too. Simply not true. Nigerian farmers are not well-supported or well-trained to engage optimally in commercial farming otherwise we would all not be wistfully talking of the "good old days" when agriculture contributed immensely to the food security and income of Nigeria. The distinction to make is between commercial and subsistence farming. The Zimbabweans are here for the former and, whatever our personal opinion, we should accept they have proven themselves to be talented farmers. If they have failed in Nigerian and are telling us precisely why, then we should inspect what they are saying in the spirit of being proactive learners who are really seeking solutions. 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria’s Zimbabwean Farmers: Nothing Like Chicken Feed by wesley80(m): 7:13pm On Apr 11, 2013 |
^ So why didnt those in Kwara state fail as well? Perhaps Kwara state is no longer in Nigeria is it? 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria’s Zimbabwean Farmers: Nothing Like Chicken Feed by redsun(m): 7:19pm On Apr 11, 2013 |
wesley80: ^ So why didnt those in Kwara state fail as well? Perhaps Kwara state is no longer in Nigeria is it? Why do you have import billions of dollars worth of rice annually in nigeria if they a successful?Can't rice be grown in nigeria?Abi you think say na grueling and back wrecking cocoyam farm we dey talk so? |
Re: Nigeria’s Zimbabwean Farmers: Nothing Like Chicken Feed by wesley80(m): 8:27pm On Apr 11, 2013 |
^ Nigeria produces about 1.8mt of rice per annum but require about 5.5mt of rice, you expect a handful of Zimbabwean farmers to bridge that gap cos they are termed "successful"? And how does their failure to bridge the gap in rice production translate to failure? I'm really curious. Meanwhile here's a piece from Bloomberg news celebrating the success of supposedly failed and frustrated Zimbabwean farmers in Nigeria. Graham Hatty, who was forced off his land in Zimbabwe a decade ago, is helping Nigeria in its drive to return to food self-sufficiency. The cassava he grows in central Kwara state was on the first ship exporting the crop to China, in August. The government is trying to boost production of the starchy root, as well as of rice and sugar, to slash the $10 billion spent every year on food imports. mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-10/nigeria-gains-from-zimbabwe-as-farmer-helps-cassava-drive.html So you were saying? |
Re: Nigeria’s Zimbabwean Farmers: Nothing Like Chicken Feed by Gbawe: 8:46pm On Apr 11, 2013 |
wesley80: ^ So why didnt those in Kwara state fail as well? Perhaps Kwara state is no longer in Nigeria is it? Your point is well taken about the Zimbabwean farmers in Kwara. Kwara supported the Zimbawean farmers better. Simple as that. Whereas Nasarawa proved to be quintessential Nigeria. http://www.thezimreview.com/2010/10/what-experience-of-less-successful-of.html
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Re: Nigeria’s Zimbabwean Farmers: Nothing Like Chicken Feed by redsun(m): 8:54pm On Apr 11, 2013 |
wesley80: ^ Nigeria produces about 1.8mt of rice per annum but require about 5.5mt of rice, you expect a handful of Zimbabwean farmers to bridge that gap cos they are termed "successful"? And how does their failure to bridge the gap in rice production translate to failure? I'm really curious. I mean,it translate in the sense that if nigerian farmers,not just the imported zimbabwean oyinbos are really successful,they will fill that gap of billions of dollars of rice import.That is just rice,not spaghetti,semolina,potato or tomato paste. There are industries too create,jobs to fill,resources to use and monies to be made.All the country needs are good policies and sacrifices. |
Re: Nigeria’s Zimbabwean Farmers: Nothing Like Chicken Feed by Nobody: 8:57pm On Apr 11, 2013 |
@Wesley/@Gbawe, You've both shared some interesting insights here, thanks. Still trying to get my head around the absence of important safe-guards highlighted in Nasarawa. One of the farmers spoken to by NEXT said in 2008, he lost about seven and a half percent of his gross turn-over to intrusions from unrestrained nomadic farmers who graze the area with their cattle. This affects about eight of the farms "That is about 40 per cent of my profit," the farmer said. "We are very fortunate to have very supportive people around, but this is business, and you get helpless sometimes." Can there be any doubt these farmers were predestined to fail? |
Re: Nigeria’s Zimbabwean Farmers: Nothing Like Chicken Feed by Gbawe: 9:39pm On Apr 11, 2013 |
eGuerrilla: @Wesley/@Gbawe, Very interesting thread you started. I personally followed the Kwara initiative and thought it was an inspired thing to do because the farmers were displaced in Zimbabwe and Saraki, who was governor at the time, specified that the bigger picture involved these successful farmers passing on their specialist knowledge and techniques to 'local apprentice' if you like. Zimbabwean farmers arrived in Kwara around 2004. Nasarawa follow suit some years later but failed to provide the same support structure to ensure success. I think for Nasarawa, issues had a tinge of 'afterthought' to the invitation of the farmers. Lessons can be learnt from what Nasarawa did wrong and helpful knowledge can also be gained from what Kwara did well. I think we all wish more Nigerian youths would consider careers in commercial farming but it seems attitude to farming is a real problem today. Personally I love fish and have always been fascinated by fish farming. Carp, Catfish and Tilapia all do well under Nigeria's climatic conditions. |
Re: Nigeria’s Zimbabwean Farmers: Nothing Like Chicken Feed by Gbawe: 9:44pm On Apr 11, 2013 |
redsun: Yes you are right but don't you think attitude towards farming has to change? It really is regretable that we have everything to develop our commercial agriculture sector yet part of the problem is lack of interest from those who could make good farmers i.e energetic and driven young men and women. How do we bridge that interest gap when most parents would probably forbid their children taking up farming? |
Re: Nigeria’s Zimbabwean Farmers: Nothing Like Chicken Feed by wesley80(m): 9:52pm On Apr 11, 2013 |
redsun:What topic are we on here? Attaining utopia? Please be realistic. Granted there are challenges that are impeding the growth of the agric sector especially rice cultivation but you'd have to agree serious progress is being made locally. At the beginning of this year a tariff was imposed on rice imports - an unprecedented move if you considr the fact that just a few years ago, the Yaradua administration had to resort to massive importation of rice to cushion the effects of its scarcity locally. Now the reverse is the case and the government is considering placing a total BAN on rice importation in less than two years! I'm under no illusions, we are nowhere near where we should be and talk of a total ban is simply put, premature. Smugglers are already having a field day thanks to our ruthlessly corrupt border officials and probably licking their lips from the anticipated windfall a total ban on the commodity would herald, but progree is being made. Never before have we gotten to the point of mooting ideas as increased tariff or a total ban on a staple like rice, this is a first and we should appreciate the little we've achieved while understanding there's still a journey ahead. |
Re: Nigeria’s Zimbabwean Farmers: Nothing Like Chicken Feed by Nobody: 9:52pm On Apr 11, 2013 |
I ventured into farming 5 years ago because of the occasional hiatus and drought of customers in real estates. It was the biggest mistake I've ever made. I've applied for numerous loans, government grants, been to BOI, and nothing happened. Once, the late Umar Musa Yaradua ordered banks to disbursed 100Billion Naira agric loan to farmers, and on getting to my bank at UBA, Sango-Otta, Ogun State, my bank manager sincerely told me that the funds is meant for just 10 farms in Nigeria, as the federal government requires I have a collateral worth 300million naira before they can give me the loan. Isn't that madness of the highest order? Agriculture in Nigeria is totally discouraged. Even BRF through his Nafada implemented program got swindled by all these political farmers who keep embezzling funds meant for small time farmers like me. Right now, I've converted my 2 acres land to a plantain farm, shut down my poultry and catfish pond and snailery and I'm dying under the weight of debts I'm owing Grand Cereals the suppliers of the feeds I use, and also Lanre Hatchery. I'm a total mess right now, and often I have nightmares when I think of how often my chickens die, and everything cost like hell. Farming in Nigerian is just for politicians. If OBJ wasn't a crook, and stole enough, I'm sure his farm would be dead by now. For the youths, stay of farming. I'd rather sit in an office and keep selling properties. |
Re: Nigeria’s Zimbabwean Farmers: Nothing Like Chicken Feed by Gbawe: 10:03pm On Apr 11, 2013 |
aasog1: I ventured into farming 5 years ago because of the occasional hiatus and drought of customers in real estates. It was the biggest mistake I've ever made. I've applied for numerous loans, government grants, been to BOI, and nothing happened. Once, the late Umar Musa Yaradua ordered banks to disbursed 100Billion Naira agric loan to farmers, and on getting to my bank at UBA, Sango-Otta, Ogun State, my bank manager sincerely told me that the funds is meant for just 10 farms in Nigeria, as the federal government requires I have a collateral worth 300million naira before they can give me the loan. Isn't that madness of the highest order? Agriculture in Nigeria is totally discouraged. Even BRF through his Nafada implemented program got swindled by all these political farmers who keep embezzling funds meant for small time farmers like me. Right now, I've converted my 2 acres land to a plantain farm, shut down my poultry and catfish pond and snailery and I'm dying under the weight of debts I'm owing Grand Cereals the suppliers of the feeds I use, and also Lanre Hatchery. I'm a total mess right now, and often I have nightmares when I think of how often my chickens die, and everything cost like hell. Farming in Nigerian is just for politicians. If OBJ wasn't a crook, and stole enough, I'm sure his farm would be dead by now. For the youths, stay of farming. I'd rather sit in an office and keep selling properties. Wow. Really sorry to hear of your experience. Always good to hear the voice of experience although not about your difficulties. N300 million collateral is even more than £1 million !!!! Seriously? To be honest, we need more of your type of honest submissions to balance out the theories. I really could not have imagined it to be as bad as you have stated here. |
Re: Nigeria’s Zimbabwean Farmers: Nothing Like Chicken Feed by wesley80(m): 10:24pm On Apr 11, 2013 |
aasog1: I ventured into farming 5 years ago because of the occasional hiatus and drought of customers in real estates. It was the biggest mistake I've ever made. I've applied for numerous loans, government grants, been to BOI, and nothing happened. Once, the late Umar Musa Yaradua ordered banks to disbursed 100Billion Naira agric loan to farmers, and on getting to my bank at UBA, Sango-Otta, Ogun State, my bank manager sincerely told me that the funds is meant for just 10 farms in Nigeria, as the federal government requires I have a collateral worth 300million naira before they can give me the loan. Isn't that madness of the highest order? Agriculture in Nigeria is totally discouraged. Even BRF through his Nafada implemented program got swindled by all these political farmers who keep embezzling funds meant for small time farmers like me. Right now, I've converted my 2 acres land to a plantain farm, shut down my poultry and catfish pond and snailery and I'm dying under the weight of debts I'm owing Grand Cereals the suppliers of the feeds I use, and also Lanre Hatchery. I'm a total mess right now, and often I have nightmares when I think of how often my chickens die, and everything cost like hell. Farming in Nigerian is just for politicians. If OBJ wasn't a crook, and stole enough, I'm sure his farm would be dead by now. For the youths, stay of farming. I'd rather sit in an office and keep selling properties. Shocking tale I must say but I think you made just about same mistake as the Zimbabweans - you went in unprepared and uninformed and there could only be one result - yours. |
Re: Nigeria’s Zimbabwean Farmers: Nothing Like Chicken Feed by redsun(m): 11:00pm On Apr 11, 2013 |
Farming in nigeria is similar to the risk taken up by the london trained medical doctor who gave up all europe has to offer medical experts to venture into the unknown field of air ambulace in nigeria. It is pioneering,adventurous,excruciating and fulfilling,whatever the result may end up to be. Endemic Corruption in nigeria grounds everything and for an outsider to penetrate the system and flourish,the person has to be a tough nut,cured and built to persevere and maximize. |
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