Why would i go through all this just to run away from my Enugu. No way.

The sweeping legislation also would remake the nation's inefficient legal immigration system,

is it inefficient?

tpia@:


is it inefficient?

In some qtrs, it is believed to be...

I support the move.

No - Lets stick with the current laws and enforce them - fine and/or jail anyone employing illegal aliens.

It's buying the vote for the next election,plain & simple...We all know,when Washington does something,they really screw it up..Why should this be any different..We are being sold out....

orrr stop the incentives for illegals to come here. Stop sanctuary cities, use e-varify, no automatic citizenship unless the parents are citizens.

Smh @ my Republican folks. Doing all of this just for the fear of lossing the next election huh?

Screw Obama btw

REALITY101:
No - Lets stick with the current laws and enforce them - fine and/or jail anyone employing illegal aliens.

It's buying the vote for the next election,plain & simple...We all know,when Washington does something,they really screw it up..Why should this be any different..We are being sold out....

orrr stop the incentives for illegals to come here. Stop sanctuary cities, use e-varify, no automatic citizenship unless the parents are citizens.

Smh @ my Republican folks. Doing all of this just for the fear of lossing the next election huh?

Screw Obama btw

after u get am with luck and life savings to pay medical bills,u enjoy am... u wan deny others

biolabee:

after u get am with luck and life savings to pay medical bills,u enjoy am... u wan deny others

You have no idea of what you're talking about kiddo

felphenix: A new agriculture visa program would bring farm workers to the U.S., and farm workers already here illegally would get a faster path to citizenship than others, able to seek a green card in five years, an effort to create a stable agricultural workforce.


The above sounds so strange and dates back to things we really don't want to remember (Modern Slavery as CNN would call it) I might be wrong!

It took you this long to notice that modern day immigration to USA or Oyiboland is a reinvention of slave ships of the past?

REALITY101:

You have no idea of what you're talking about kiddo

u dont have.... people like u are the lucky poseessors of the green card or by birth citizenship but now u r in, those coming behind u are parasites


hypocrite

biolabee:

u dont have.... people like u are the lucky poseessors of the green card or by birth citizenship but now u r in, those coming behind u are parasites


hypocrite

Still talking shiit. Please try harder

eggheaders:



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Makes perfect sense. It is baffling to see green cards being awarded to folks who have barely a high school education, who are mostly a drain on the welfare system while foreign trained doctors have to wait years, jumping through hoops just to be able to get a work visa.

davidylan: Makes perfect sense. It is baffling to see green cards being awarded to folks who have barely a high school education, who are mostly a drain on the welfare system while foreign trained doctors have to wait years, jumping through hoops just to be able to get a work visa.

\\true
have u heard of the blueseed project
america as a whole is losing due to some aspects on its immigration

biolabee:

\\true
have u heard of the blueseed project
america as a whole is losing due to some aspects on its immigration

Yep. Canada was much smarter. Their immigration system is geared towards picking highly educated folks who can contribute to the society. In the US all we get are floods of uneducated mexicans.

davidylan:

Yep. Canada was much smarter. Their immigration system is geared towards picking highly educated folks who can contribute to the society. In the US all we get are floods of uneducated mexicans.

LOL

davidylan:

Yep. Canada was much smarter. Their immigration system is geared towards picking highly educated folks who can contribute to the society. In the US all we get are floods of uneducated mexicans.

Lol very true ! They are indeed smarter !! I wonder why it took so long for the USA to get their hearts together to see the light in the Immigration system of Canada,Australia and the likes.... Be it as it may,the move is a welcome development !

As it stands now,highly skilled folks can gain access to the states as against the luck bound lottery thingy. The motive behind the DV lottery has long lost its value and it is high time it changes

davidylan:

Yep. Canada was much smarter. Their immigration system is geared towards picking highly educated folks who can contribute to the society. In the US all we get are floods of uneducated mexicans.

Exactly! Same as Australia and even New Zealand. Like US, UK also encouraged immigration of low skilled workers for a long time until the introduction of the now suspended HSMP which ironically was the most regulated and criticised immigration route despite bringing in skilled migrants. Also for many years you can easily get working visa in Ireland simply by having an irish born baby while professionals like doctors are victimised daily with threats of deportation, what an irony!

This is an intellectual thread unlike some people who don't want othere to benefit fter they were lucky to be there in the first place

Even if you are living in the states, your black heart is still black

davidylan:

Yep. Canada was much smarter. Their immigration system is geared towards picking highly educated folks who can contribute to the society. In the US all we get are floods of uneducated mexicans.

The US have skilled people in excess!!! They only need people who are willing to take care of their dirty jobs.

Canada on d other hand is under populated so they don't really have much dirty affairs. Their population is just about 10% of America's population. So they first of all need to have enough skilled people who will generate the dirty needs for unskilled people to come and take care of.

no country has skilled people in excess, you're high.

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[quote author=]no country has skilled people in excess, you're high. [/quote]

Dont mind him jare skilled people in excess lol

xtayle:

The US have skilled people in excess!!! They only need people who are willing to take care of their dirty jobs.

Canada on d other hand is under populated so they don't really have much dirty affairs. Their population is just about 10% of America's population. So they first of all need to have enough skilled people who will generate the dirty needs for unskilled people to come and take care of.

xtayle have u read of the blueseed project

The US needs skilled people that its current immigration system hampers from coming in
Sergey Brin is a descendant of immigrants so was Madeleien Albright
These peoples bring innovation that has now dried up now hence the comparative advantage to other nations has been narrowed

[quote author=]no country has skilled people in excess, you're high. [/quote]

Can you tell us which area of human endeavour where America lack skilled people?

biolabee:

xtayle have u read of the blueseed project

The US needs skilled people that its current immigration system hampers from coming in
Sergey Brin is a descendant of immigrants so was Madeleien Albright
These peoples bring innovation that has now dried up now hence the comparative advantage to other nations has been narrowed

Blue seed is a private initiative and has nothing to do with US government. Besides, the concept does not in anyway imply that the US is in shortage of skilled labour. It is just a scheme designed to carryout business incubation service especially for non US citizens. Current immigration laws are not friendly towards that but people want to do business there by all means. The promoter saw an opportunity in that and designed d scheme.

The blueseed may never take off because d date for launch has been changed twice for lack of adequate fund to run such a huge project on d HIGH SEA outside of US territorial waters, where start up will have to pay as much as $1200 a month in rent.

Don't u think d US would soften their laws if they were desperate? They won't need to take illegal alliens with innovation to d high sea.

Let's just keep our fingers cross.

okidoki

xtayle:

The US have skilled people in excess!!! They only need people who are willing to take care of their dirty jobs.

Canada on d other hand is under populated so they don't really have much dirty affairs. Their population is just about 10% of America's population. So they first of all need to have enough skilled people who will generate the dirty needs for unskilled people to come and take care of.

Not true. Silicon valley is the largest lobby group for expanding the H1B visa class. If they had abundant US talent to fill these positions why would they care about going to Asia to hire workers?

davidylan:

Not true. Silicon valley is the largest lobby group for expanding the H1B visa class. If they had abundant US talent to fill these positions why would they care about going to Asia to hire workers?

Thanks bros

davidylan:

Not true. Silicon valley is the largest lobby group for expanding the H1B visa class. If they had abundant US talent to fill these positions why would they care about going to Asia to hire workers?

My mom (she has a green card sponsored by my bro and sister-in-law) went to d US to take care of my big bro's baby. Some Neighbours (2 of them actually) brought their babies and paid her 500 USD monthtly. Does this mean there are not enough people in d US Nanny biz anymore? I don't think so. However, I know that Nannies in d US earn as much as those who work a regular office job so they are expensive. If you hire one and go to work as a woman, at d end of d month, u practically have to hand over ur entire pay for d month to pay a Nanny.

Bottomline: Labour is expensive in d US and that's why everyone is now Manufacturing in China, Vietnam, Bangladesh, India, et al. Its also d reason employers consider labour from outside of d US because it will be cheaper. The American lifestyle has become very expensive and so is Labour. Today, you can get an expert of d same qualification in India for half the wage u will get it in d US. Even "Plastic Valley" will push to benefit from that. It is a push to reduce the cost of production in order to remain competitive. Some of u who are talking here are still dreaming or once dreamt of attending MIT or HAVARD where American innovators like Bill Gates and Mark Zukerberg came from and you are saying there is no innovation in America. There are several innovation in America many of which are quite expensive and not affordable to many.

Finally, America may not soften their law in this regard because Americans are battling serious case of unemployment. If they open d floodgate and allow foreigners who are willing to work for less to come in, their skilled work force will suffer more. One of d major highlight of the last US Presidential election debate was for Obama and Romney to convince Americans how d high rate of unemployment plaguing the US economy can be brought down. I know a lot of Nigerians who are living in d US, on green card, they all have jobs (unskilled mostly) but Americans says they are looking for jobs. Who are those looking for jobs? Skilled People.

xtayle:

My mom (she has a green card sponsored by my bro and sister-in-law) went to d US to take care of my big bro's baby. Some Neighbours (2 of them actually) brought their babies and paid her 500 USD monthtly. Does this mean there are not enough people in d US Nanny biz anymore? I don't think so. However, I know that Nannies in d US earn as much as those who work a regular office job so they are expensive. If you hire one and go to work as a woman, at d end of d month, u practically have to hand over ur entire pay for d month to pay a Nanny.

Bottomline: Labour is expensive in d US and that's why everyone is now Manufacturing in China, Vietnam, Bangladesh, India, et al. Its also d reason employers consider labour from outside of d US because it will be cheaper. The American lifestyle has become very expensive and so is Labour. Today, you can get an expert of d same qualification in India for half the wage u will get it in d US. Even "Plastic Valley" will push to benefit from that. It is a push to reduce the cost of production in order to remain competitive. Some of u who are talking here are still dreaming or once dreamt of attending MIT or HAVARD where American innovators like Bill Gates and Mark Zukerberg came from and you are saying there is no innovation in America. There are several innovation in America many of which are quite expensive and not affordable to many.

Finally, America may not soften their law in this regard because Americans are battling serious case of unemployment. If they open d floodgate and allow foreigners who are willing to work for less to come in, their skilled work force will suffer more. One of d major highlight of the last US Presidential election debate was for Obama and Romney to convince Americans how d high rate of unemployment plaguing the US economy can be brought down. I know a lot of Nigerians who are living in d US, on green card, they all have jobs (unskilled mostly) but Americans says they are looking for jobs. Who are those looking for jobs? Skilled People.

I was talking of silicon valley and you're talking of nannies? ridiculous.
If you applied for a visa to be a nanny you would be laughed out of the embassy.

davidylan:

I was talking of silicon valley and you're talking of nannies? ridiculous.
If you applied for a visa to be a nanny you would be laughed out of the embassy.

Did I just talk about Nannies? Did I say anyone applied for visa to be a Nanny? Where is your comparative sense or reasoning?