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Re: We Should All Be Feminists- Chimamanda Adichie by toshmann(m): 5:56pm On Jun 27, 2013 |
ItsModella: |
Re: We Should All Be Feminists- Chimamanda Adichie by Nobody: 5:57pm On Jun 27, 2013 |
papa tosh, how are you? |
Re: We Should All Be Feminists- Chimamanda Adichie by biolabee(m): 5:58pm On Jun 27, 2013 |
damn.. u shd be a writer... SLIDE waxie: feminism is jes shere stupidity to me, and nothing but hypocrisy in it's shameless epitome! 1 Like |
Re: We Should All Be Feminists- Chimamanda Adichie by toshmann(m): 10:35pm On Jun 27, 2013 |
ItsModella: papa tosh, how are you? Baby itsmodella I dey fine Why you dey vex na? you back to the states? PapaTosh na old school, so no vex say I no buy feminist ideology But I still love dem babes and will continue to treat them like queens, just like my mama and my sister |
Re: We Should All Be Feminists- Chimamanda Adichie by Nobody: 11:02pm On Jun 27, 2013 |
toshmann:I'm not back in the States yet. Anyway, I want some candies and ice cream. |
Re: We Should All Be Feminists- Chimamanda Adichie by Matthewbriggs(m): 11:04pm On Jun 27, 2013 |
Feminist or feminism I detest because I think most time they are hypocritical, emotional and illogical, I see them as women who wish they were men. Moreover fighting for the fundamental human rights of women in a society that oppresses them is something I support. To my knowledge Nigeria's constitution do not oppress women. And till tomorrow men and women cannot be equal. I battled one of them here https://www.nairaland.com/1284502/men-women-not-equals-briggs |
Re: We Should All Be Feminists- Chimamanda Adichie by toshmann(m): 11:11pm On Jun 27, 2013 |
ItsModella: How about you buying me ice cream and wine. Ehe na, feminist. It's time you buy for the men. Come ask us out and lets do a little bit of hard to get Buy us drinks, buy us a ring, $1000 ring Shey una want a man's world. Come pay our |
Re: We Should All Be Feminists- Chimamanda Adichie by Nobody: 11:16pm On Jun 27, 2013 |
toshmann:I'm sorry, I thought what we had was an adult-kiddo relationship |
Re: We Should All Be Feminists- Chimamanda Adichie by toshmann(m): 11:19pm On Jun 27, 2013 |
ItsModella:Ok, I forgot. What is a kid doing with feminism? Well, when you return, face your studies, keep away from feminism and you get your ice cream. If you behave fine I can get you a ticket to Disneyland or two tickets, you and any other kid friend of yours can go together. No feminism , |
Re: We Should All Be Feminists- Chimamanda Adichie by Nobody: 11:21pm On Jun 27, 2013 |
toshmann:yay!! I'll take Adaobi along with me |
Re: We Should All Be Feminists- Chimamanda Adichie by Nobody: 11:27pm On Jun 27, 2013 |
ItsModella: Yaaay America here I come ! |
Re: We Should All Be Feminists- Chimamanda Adichie by Matthewbriggs(m): 11:47pm On Jun 27, 2013 |
toshmann: ItsModella: LOl epic, U don denounce the fight for gender equality because of 2 Disney tickets, women rights movt still have a long way to go, . toshmann you try, you took down a feminist, with one wannabe feminist with just 2 disney tickets. You too much |
Re: We Should All Be Feminists- Chimamanda Adichie by Nobody: 11:53pm On Jun 27, 2013 |
Matthew briggs:huh? ogbeni, just take a deep breath and step back into your lane The joke is between tosh, adaobi and I. |
Re: We Should All Be Feminists- Chimamanda Adichie by Matthewbriggs(m): 12:03am On Jun 28, 2013 |
ItsModella: Yes I am aware, it was btw you 3, it was so funny I couldn't help it, I just wanted to point out the obvious, FYI I love my lane so much, I would never dream of stepping out of it. Plus am not in any way related to osun state governor OGBENI AREGBESOLA. No vex am just having fun I understand it was a joke btw you 3. |
Re: We Should All Be Feminists- Chimamanda Adichie by Nobody: 12:04am On Jun 28, 2013 |
Matthew briggs: C'mon, where went your sense of humor?.. She's prolly joking with tosh na |
Re: We Should All Be Feminists- Chimamanda Adichie by Nobody: 12:15am On Jun 28, 2013 |
This Chimamanda is sexy o I hard a proper bòner while watching her gesticulate |
Re: We Should All Be Feminists- Chimamanda Adichie by 99cent: 12:51am On Jun 28, 2013 |
most of the points in your comment can be argued against very easily. toshmann: I believe God made women out of men, to be loved by men. I believe in equal pay for men and women when they do the same job, I see it as human right not feminism. first of all, why do you use the word "girl" as a point of comparison to the word "men"? also, are men supposed to dress 'ugly'? all people, male or female, should dress neatly. besides the emphasis that women should spend a lot of time looking good wasn't always that way. there are periods in history when men put more focus on their looks than women. in fact, men in the 16th century europe are known to wear heels and fashionable clothes and wigs. u can see the remnants of this tradition in the wigs judges wear in courts and even in renaissance oil paintings. the point is that women should be able to decide for themselves how they want to look. In puritan societies, in fact, women are banned from wearing make-up, jewelry or looking "good". they are forced to dress very plainly and drab. this is also a way of repressing women by enforcing societal code of dressing or appearance on them. there are many ways to repress women. else, how would u explain that in some societies women are pressured to look good. whereas in other societies, women have to look plain. keep in mind, no rule whatsoever applies to men who can look however they want! gender roles are social constructs (man made) NOT biological.
this is the same argument pro-rapists make. when a girl is raped, they blame it on the girl and say things like "why weren't you covering up in a burqa" or "why were you walking down the street by yourself without a chaperone" etc. the rapist or sexual abuser goes scot free in Africa and may be even praised by other males .society condones sexual exploits by males and condemns women for the same. Africa as a continent has the highest rate of sexua.l violence in the world. when there is a government and rule of law, males that impregnate women will be forced to bear responsibility in form of child support and other means. this is enforced in western countries. that's why women can wear whatever clothes they want and there is no sexual repression for women in western countries. they are not made to feel ashamed of their sex. men are held to the same level of responsibility. also there is such thing as condoms, birth control pills, and abortions.
why are girls under pressure to get married? again you use the word girls and men on the same level. are we still living in a world where 50yr old men marry 15yr old girls? also, fertility rate and sexism have high correlation just so you know. if you visit a society where women are giving birth to 4-10 kids per woman, the level of sexism and horrible treatment of women will be much higher than societies where average number of kids per woman in around 2 kids (western countries!). that says a LOT.
can you post that statistic for me to see? and who told you men "lead" in relationships? behind closed doors, at least 50% of relationships are led by women (all things being equal ex finances) leadership is mostly a personality trait. not a gender trait. Maybe in Africa where women are repressed and forced to act "meek" but if we went by nature, leadership will show in equal rates between men and women. ex. men who show leadership seen as leaders. whereas women who show leadership seen as "bitchy" again, sexism at play.
again, this is the pro-rapist argument you are making. a man is allowed to sit comfortably while a woman is made to assume contortions that very uncomfortable just to "protect" herself from men. if urinating upwards is the most comfortable position for a woman to urinate. then YES women should urinate upwards. This is not about women becoming men. but about women gaining basic common sense rights that are withheld from them in sexist societies.
true. no one is asking that women become men. just challenging sexism which exists in our society. may men don't want it. why should they? they are benefiting from the system and they will fight to protect the status quo. 4 Likes |
Re: We Should All Be Feminists- Chimamanda Adichie by 99cent: 1:00am On Jun 28, 2013 |
Matthew briggs: I see them as women who wish they were men. Moreover fighting for the fundamental human rights of women in a society that oppresses them is something I support. To my knowledge Nigeria's constitution do not oppress women. of course you won't see all the violation of women's rights in nigeria because you are male and could care less. even some women don't see it. just like a fish who doesn't know that land exists. http://www.informationng.com/2013/01/dress-code-kogi-bans-female-teachers-from-wearing-trousers.html another stupid law created by african men in trying to control women as if they are children. why not just force all women to wear burqa like middle eastern country. in fact, ban them from walking in the streets. to go further, lock them all up. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2304913/Ugandan-women-wearing-miniskirts-face-arrest-new-anti-pornography-laws.html 2 Likes |
Re: We Should All Be Feminists- Chimamanda Adichie by Nobody: 1:04am On Jun 28, 2013 |
Great points 99cents, very impressive arguments. I want to be like you when I grow up 1 Like |
Re: We Should All Be Feminists- Chimamanda Adichie by Nobody: 1:06am On Jun 28, 2013 |
truth is bitter , someone reported my comment ah ah |
Re: We Should All Be Feminists- Chimamanda Adichie by Nobody: 1:16am On Jun 28, 2013 |
Matthew briggs: Moreover fighting for the fundamental human rights of women in a society that oppresses them is something I support. To my knowledge Nigeria's constitution do not oppress women. And till tomorrow men and women cannot be equal.I think the cause of the problem of this discrimination is that many women still believe they need men in their lives to continue existing. They have been indoctrinated by society and religion to believe that they have to get married and submit to your whims for them to become accomplished in life. That is why I support single motherhood. The less dependence women have on your arrogant behinds, the better for them. 3 Likes |
Re: We Should All Be Feminists- Chimamanda Adichie by Nobody: 1:21am On Jun 28, 2013 |
CAMEROONPRIDE: You better stop pretending that your paganism advocates gender equality and just admit that it is a sexist religion. |
Re: We Should All Be Feminists- Chimamanda Adichie by 99cent: 1:22am On Jun 28, 2013 |
fellis: I agree. types of relationship in rank from healthiest to least healthy. -marriage between a man and women who are equally educated and treat each other with equal respect -single parenthood -benevolent slave master (man who intentionally marries a poorer or disadvantaged woman so he will be able to control her. but may not abuse her severely) -abusive slave master(the wife beaters etc fall in this category). |
Re: We Should All Be Feminists- Chimamanda Adichie by Nobody: 1:23am On Jun 28, 2013 |
fellis:feminism is not gender equality and you know that . feminism only cares about women and omen only. Paganism is pure and without imperfections. |
Re: We Should All Be Feminists- Chimamanda Adichie by Nobody: 1:30am On Jun 28, 2013 |
CAMEROONPRIDE: feminism is not gender equality and you know thatI am sorry, but I do not know that. The feminism I know of and agree with is the feminism that advocates providing equality for both genders and fighting any type of oppresion against women. |
Re: We Should All Be Feminists- Chimamanda Adichie by Nobody: 1:33am On Jun 28, 2013 |
99cent:Are the last two options actually examples of healthy family relationships? The last one especially doesn't seem healthy at all to me |
Re: We Should All Be Feminists- Chimamanda Adichie by Nobody: 1:37am On Jun 28, 2013 |
fellis:see contradiction, why is that they don't fight oppression against MEn? Anyway no point to argue, but are you going to bring paganism each time we disagree on something> this is just like me saying aren't u a muslim woman? why don't you bring feminism in Saudi arabia? i bet you are sunni so you support salafism and wahabism . *thread unfollowed* you girls are mad. Nigerian men asked you the rights you guys want none of you answered. fminist are bunch of confused whiners. |
Re: We Should All Be Feminists- Chimamanda Adichie by Nobody: 1:40am On Jun 28, 2013 |
^^^Bye, don't let the door hit you on your way out. Or let it hit you sef, e no concern me. |
Re: We Should All Be Feminists- Chimamanda Adichie by 99cent: 1:45am On Jun 28, 2013 |
fellis: no it's NOT healthy at all. I guess I worded that wrongly. I meant that the first relationship is the best followed by the second one. that last one is the WORST. |
Re: We Should All Be Feminists- Chimamanda Adichie by Nobody: 1:48am On Jun 28, 2013 |
Most didn't even watch the video. Culled from Wikipedia. Feminism is a collection of movements and ideologies aimed at defining, establishing, and defending equal political, economic, and social rights for women.[1][2] This includes seeking to establish equal opportunities for women in education and employment. So all those against feminism are against defining, establishing and defending equal political, economic and social rights for women? I see. 3 Likes |
Re: We Should All Be Feminists- Chimamanda Adichie by 99cent: 1:49am On Jun 28, 2013 |
CAMEROONPRIDE: who said we wanted any rights from you? who are you? go and sit down in a corner. or better still, get back to your cage. feminist hero! http://nation.time.com/2013/06/26/meet-the-woman-behind-the-texas-abortion-filibuster/ Africa needs more women like this and Chimamanda taking control and putting these people in their places. rights will not be handed over voluntarily. women must FIGHT for it. |
Re: We Should All Be Feminists- Chimamanda Adichie by Nobody: 2:03am On Jun 28, 2013 |
fellis: Naa I don't support single motherhood. Kids fare better in double parenthood. Women just need to be more selective in their mating pattern. There should be no need having a child for a nonentity. I think such should be criminalized. I agree society impounds on us to mate with what's readily available and that attitude needs to be changed. 2 Likes |
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