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somalia5: Berber comes from the Arabic word Al Barbar (البربر), which comes from the onomatopoeia Bar-Bar (see also βάρβαρος), used by Greeks as Bla-Bla to describe other languages. Bar-Bar was adopted by the Arabic speakers to refer to the original inhabitants of North Africa, west and south of Egypt[1] as a non civilized population. The word 'Berber' is itself related to the older word Barbaroi, which is used in the document Periplus Maris Erythaie (Periplus of the Red Sea), a document written in Greek in the middle of the first century A.D. This document indicates that the Barbaroi, meaning the inhabitants of northern Somali coast, were trading with the Ancient Egyptians, Romans and inhabitants of Pre-Islamic Arabia.[2] It also gives the names of some of the ports like Berbera. Nowadays the word Berber is used to refer to the Amazigh. Historically the term was applied by ancient Greek and medieval Arab geographers to the original inhabitants of Somalia.



Somali history is so amazing.

PAGAN 9JA:



that is impossible. SHOW ME THE LINK!

PAGAN 9JA:
I KNEW IT! I JUST KNEW IT!

That is a unverified WIkipedia article, you dumb sh!.t. it is not the main Berber page. it is written by a layman/commoner.

lol , do you have any other proper verifiable sources.

somalia5: more evidence, somalis being called berber

their is even a city call berbera in northern somalia.

pleep: There is yellow chinese semen flowing though your veins.

PAGAN 9JA:
[size=32pt]LOOL EVEN IBN BATUTAH, AN AMAZIGH BERBER, REFERRED TO YOU SOMALIS AS BLACK NEGROIDS ! LMAOOOOOOOOOOO![/size]

PAGAN 9JA:


actually there is. im dead serious.

THe other day I was watching a documentary of the famous Chinese Explorer Zheng He. Apparently on his return from MEcca, his ship got grounded in Somalia. So many of his fellow Chinese sailors were forced to stay back. There they enslaved/married SOmali women. Their descendants still live in a part of Somalia. THey have certain characteristics, like slanting yes, and some old Ming Dynasty heirlooms (small blue and white porcelain cups), and near their homes are graves of their Chinese ancestors , with Ming style carvings and porcelain embedding.

PAGAN 9JA:


Ibn Batutah himself is Berber. he had Berber contacts as far as India. ahahahahaha did you read the whole article??!!


Medieval Muslim writers originally used "Al-Barbar" (variants of English transliterations include: Berber, Berberi, Berbera, Barbara, Barbari, etc.), when referring to the non-Arabic speaking Muslims in Africa--not only in Northwest Africa, but in East and Central Africa as well. For example, Ibn Battuta (1304-1368 AD), an Arabic-speaking Muslim traveler and writer, frequently used variations of the term during his travels in East and Central Africa. Upon visiting the Somalian city of Zaila or Zeila, which lies just east of a city aptly named Berbera, Battuta said:


Battuta also referred to the non-Arabic speaking Muslim leaders as Berbers while in Takadda, a city in Eastern Mali :




"...the qadi Abu Ibrahim and preacher Muhammed and the teacher Abu Hafs and the shaikh Sa'id ibn Ali set out to call upon the sultan of Takadda who was a Berber named Izar. A dispute had occurred between him and the Takarkuri who is also a sultan of the Berbers..."

Sultan of Sennar (c. 1821 AD), who reigned at the same time Pasha referred to Sennar as Berber

Even as late as the 19th century, we see that Turkish and Arab Muslims continued using "Berber" (or variants) to refer to people in areas outside Northwest Africa. In his Narrative of the expedition to Dongola and Sennar, Mehemmed ali Pasha, Turkish (Albanian ancestry) military leader of Egypt (1805-1848 AD) referred to Sennar or the Islamic kingdom south of Ottoman Egypt as Berber (there is even a city named Berber in Central Sudan):

It was actually Europeans who made the term "Berber" synonymous with Northwest Africa.


^^^^^^ THIS PROVES IT. YOU ARE NOT DESCENDED FROM THE AMAZIGH! THE PEOPLE OF NORTH-WEST AFRICA, i.e., TODAYS "BERBERS"


The Arabs called any non-Arab as Berbers, including SOmalis , Egyptians, BANTUS, Malians, Songhays, BAMBARA, - these so-called NEGROIDS , etc. .

somalia5:


they were refering to skin color, ofcourse loooool as somalis were the only ones trading with the arabs and turks and persians who were darker skinned than those people

somalia5:


Really, lol. You should read more history as those people who are light skin who are mixed with arabs and persians in somailia are called reer xaamaar and reer barawe they have been excluded from the somali clan systems and are essentially second class citizens........

your theory is silly as somalis had empires in that area that were allied with the arabs and turks, how can anyone enslave somalis, especially when somalis had the largest and most ships in the arab world. lol

hahahahaha i know my history.....you cant fool me

somalia5:


negroids were never called berbers as they were called abeed, and bantu......


and i didnt say we were decended from berbers....but they came from us........they speak afroasiatic langauge and have much of our dna


berber was the name called by somalis, there is a big trading port called berbera

PAGAN 9JA:


LMAO! what do SOmalis have to trade with? all you have is sand, camels bananas and QAT. THe Arabs were already trading with the great Empires of Mali, Timmbuctoo, etc., for Gold, IVory,etc.



I swear by my Gods, I did not make that up. I saw it in a documentary (wither HIstory Channel or Nat Geo.). it was tracing the route of Zheng He.

even now if you go to SOmalia, you can ask around d meet their descendants.

somalia5:


I guess this guy doesnt know somalis and arabs were trading negroid slaves..........

Rgp92: Haha, somali werent trading "Negroids", "Negroids" were trading somali for something more useful...

somalia5:


lol......negroids trading somalis? lol


you should know slavery in somalia of negroids ended 1930's by the italians.....if it were not for the italians negroids would be picking crops still to this day.