Desola:

God bless you real good!

[b]I had said in an older thread that Nigerians are predominantly criminalistics in nature [/b]but I was shouted down as a self loathing person who wished ill upon Nigeria but the truth surrounds us all. Nigeria and Nigerians are rotting away but rather than sit up and start to face hard facts and embark on reorientation we would rAther brush it off as a one off event.

Now is the time for us, this current generation, to start doing some serious work to redeem our image. It might take decades but we will get there. Clearly the generation before us have failed us, but the posterity of Nigeria now rests upon us.

ericgold: THE LONDON CANNIBAL IS A BRITISH CITIZEN, NOT A NIGERIAN. BE GUIDED..
May I call on the National Assembly and ALL NIGERIANS to reject this act and say ‘NO’ to the tag, he is not a Nigerian. Nigerians don’t butcher their Citizens like meat, only BOKO HARAM and their sponsors do so. Mind you, BOKO HARAMites aren’t Nigerians in the first place. True NIGERIANS accepts Western Education albeit, we condemn what happened in London.
Please, say ‘NO’ to the terrorist tag on NIGERIANS, we’re not terrorists.

alexis:

I must have pressed the wrong button huh. Please show me where the man that killed the female officers did so shouting Allah or in Allahs name? Your confusion is the difference when something is religious than when it is criminal.

Here is a video showing Michael Adebolajo with Anjem Choudary

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VNftQwvsjgw

Digest that, then turn around and re-post

The same muslim cleric refused to condemn the attack and tried to rationalized it and said the act was as a result of British foreign policy - NONSENSE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SXCw9X3vRTs

Iyfe Namikaze: You people are the ones branding them nigerians, i watched the news yesterday and the british PM only identified them as british citizens who converted to islam in 2003, nobody mentioned anything like african let alone nigeria. You people should stop shooting yourselves on the foot.
does their acent look anything nigerian or someone who have even left the shores of britain before?
The british accpeted they are british citizens and so shalll it be!! I don't want to here anybody call them naija here again! Or i ban that person!! Let this be a warning to you all.

abes:

You still don't get it, do you?
In both cases, murder was committed and all men involved are British. In one of the cases, two men shouted 'Allah' and killed one army officer, in the other case, one man did not shout anything but killed two female police officers.

Does the fact that 'Allah' was not shouted in one case make it a less severe murder case than the other where 'Allah' was shouted? (mind the victims in both cases)

Does the "LAW" defines crime with preference to religious or ethnic background?

Why do you label one a terrorist and the other not a terrorist?

abes:

You still don't get it, do you?
In both cases, murder was committed and all men involved are British. In one of the cases, two men shouted 'Allah' and killed one army officer, in the other case, one man did not shout anything but killed two female police officers.

Does the fact that 'Allah' was not shouted in one case make it a less severe murder case than the other where 'Allah' was shouted? (mind the victims in both cases)

Does the "LAW" defines crime with preference to religious or ethnic background?

Why do you label one a terrorist and the other not a terrorist?

Pedagogue:

One big fact about the UK is: No one will add 'Nigerian' to your status if you are representing the country in any capacity!
But if you dare commit a crime, your status will change from 'British' to 'British Nigerian' or 'Nigerian descent'- even if you've never been to Nigeria!

Nevertheless,

We should ask ourselves why other countries in Africa have not 'produced' Abdulmuttalab and Dese 2 'Michael's'!!! And pls, don't tell me it's a fallout of the big size of the country!!! If its abt size then China or India ought to have produced millions of

2 narrow things down,Many naija parents (home and abroad) now spend more time hustling than bringing up their kids.
This is what you get when u don't have properly brought up children!!!
If you don't Instill the right values in your children at their formative years,d devil will !

alexis:

You are narrowly missing my point. Did you watch the youtube videos? Both are terrorism, the cause of concern is the MOTIVE AND INTENT. With one, it's criminal, with another, it is RELIGIOUS. That is the difference.

A thief goes to steal and when he is caught, we judge him by the motivation not his religion.

A white guy shot a black kid in Florida, it was a race issue and not a religious one

A muslims man kills an unarmed soldier and tells us he is doing it because of this faith.

Clearly, you can see the difference!

abes:

Does the fact that 'Allah' was not shouted in one case make it a less severe murder case than the other where 'Allah' was shouted? (mind the victims in both cases)

Does the "LAW" defines crime with preference to religious or ethnic background?

Why do you label one a terrorist and the other not a terrorist?(Answered)

lagerwhenindoubt:

That is all you can see in everything that has happened?

abes: My judgments are not based on emotions

alexis:

Mine is based on FACTS and EVIDENCE. There is nothing sentimental or emotional about that. At least you can't dispute that.

abes:

Does the fact that 'Allah' was not shouted in one case make it a less severe murder case than the other where 'Allah' was shouted? (mind the victims in both cases)

Does the "LAW" defines crime with preference to religious or ethnic background?

Why do you label one a terrorist and the other not a terrorist? (Answered)

Cornel88: Maybe it is because he is not
Gabriel Agbonlahor
playing for Aston Villa and
the Three Lions, or
Andrew Osagie, UK's
reigning 800m champion,
or Lawrence Okoye, British
Discus Record
Holder (68.24m), or
Abiodun Oyepitan, British
Olympic Silver and Gold
Medalist, or Christine
Ohuruogu, Beijing Olympic
British Gold
Medalist, or Eniola Aluko,
British Olympic
Female Football star, or
Temi Fagbenle British
Olympic Basketball queen,
or several other
thousands of British
citizens with Nigerian
connection who are
making the country proud.
Nigeria should just be left
out of this neo-
colonial agenda. Please
pass this on.
Nigerians are a great
people and they are
usually
positive additions to any
culture they join.
Proudly Naija.

alexis: You keep repeating yourself. In law - we look at the MOTIVE of why a crime was committed. We are interested in the REASON why something happened. Based on that, we know how to pass judgement.

4 Play:

Accusing? 2 Nigerians in broad daylight and in front of eye witnesses murdered a soldier and you are talking of an accusation as if their actions are unproven.

abes:
My judgments are not based on emotions

abes

Does the fact that 'Allah' was not shouted in one case make it a less severe murder case than the other where 'Allah' was shouted? (mind the victims in both cases)

Why do you label one a terrorist and the other not a terrorist?

arcbabe: My thought is Iran is trying to portray nigerians as bad since the iranian man that was charged with importation of weapons into nigerian was sentence to jail in nigerian. These guys knowing fully well that they originated from nigeria were brainwashed and used to tarnish our image.