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Why Do People From South East Hate Tinubu More Than Those From South-west? by Garrithe1st: 11:33am On Jun 07, 2013
Going by what I've been seeing on NL, I can say that Tinubu is hated mostly by people from the South-Eastern part of the country. This is surprising since Tinubu's past actions and inactions affected mainly people in the southwest.

So my question is:
Why is Tinubu hated more by people who are not primarily affected by his actions and inactions??
Re: Why Do People From South East Hate Tinubu More Than Those From South-west? by jjcbuthot: 11:53am On Jun 07, 2013
Very simple...

Tinubu is a rising star in Nigeria politics and his influence is growing far beyond south west. Fortunately Tinubu, as a progressive who has helped to liberate SW from the shackles of PDP, is collaborating with like minds in other parts of the country to liberate the entire country from the shackles of PDP contrary to the wish of our brothers from South East who primitively think the current order should be maintained for sentimental and very shallow reasons.

I am sure if Tinubu promises to deliver SW to PDP/GEJ, an average villager from SE will be worshiping Tinubu despite the fact that such alignment will only in the long run worsen their already pathetic situation.

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Re: Why Do People From South East Hate Tinubu More Than Those From South-west? by Meritbaba(m): 11:53am On Jun 07, 2013
Jealousy!!nothing more nothing less

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Re: Why Do People From South East Hate Tinubu More Than Those From South-west? by Gbawe: 12:07pm On Jun 07, 2013
OP, I think you know the answer to your own question.

Ultmiately, who cares why they hate Tinubu? The man will keep doing his thing while hateful elements continue to shout. Folks in the SW, fully cognisant of the reality of Nigeria, will know Tinubu is an asset.

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Re: Why Do People From South East Hate Tinubu More Than Those From South-west? by PointB: 12:17pm On Jun 07, 2013
Most people from across the Niger don't hold thieves, fraudsters, and drug barons, certificate forgers, etc in high regards, especially if they continue to shamelessly press for acceptance in public sphere.

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Re: Why Do People From South East Hate Tinubu More Than Those From South-west? by Sibrah: 12:23pm On Jun 07, 2013
Tinubu is a treat to the south easterner's favorite presidential candydate.

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Re: Why Do People From South East Hate Tinubu More Than Those From South-west? by eggheaders(m): 12:23pm On Jun 07, 2013
PointB: Most people from across the Niger don't hold thieves, fraudsters, and drug barons, certificate forgers, etc in high regards, especially if they continue to shamelessly press for acceptance in public sphere.


you can say that loud to the uba brothers and the drug baron that use money to buy the stool of aguleri. laughing in Japanese.

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Re: Why Do People From South East Hate Tinubu More Than Those From South-west? by PointB: 12:26pm On Jun 07, 2013
eggheaders:


you can say that loud to the uba brothers and the drug baron that use money to buy the stool of aguleri. laughing in Japanese.

And how many people revere these brothers amongst our folks?

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Re: Why Do People From South East Hate Tinubu More Than Those From South-west? by takedat(m): 12:30pm On Jun 07, 2013
PointB: Most people from across the Niger don't hold thieves, fraudsters, and drug barons, certificate forgers, etc in high regards, especially if they continue to shamelessly press for acceptance in public sphere.
You know that's a big lie. We know where thieves, fraudsters and drug barons are Igwes and red cap chiefs. The place where people believe that life is all about transaction, legal or illegal! Where their big men control crime syndicate, and who visit their autonomous communities during yam festivals and christmas in cars with customized plate numbers for chieftancy titles! Lol!

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Re: Why Do People From South East Hate Tinubu More Than Those From South-west? by Ufeolorun(m): 12:31pm On Jun 07, 2013
I may be wrong but i think anyone who tend to galvanise Yoruba is likely to be hated by some 'pro-Nigeria' peeps.Some feel there's a fine line between that and tribalism though, they have a misguided definition of what tribalism entails.
lastly, history has shown when we rally round and support a single individual under a single platform, we (relatively) insulate our selves from some national problems and we make our politicians very powerful,recent issues have reinforced this thinking:I would have lost hope in Nigeria and my state if the current guys in Abuja/Aso rock have any political influence in my neck of the woods.

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Re: Why Do People From South East Hate Tinubu More Than Those From South-west? by eggheaders(m): 12:32pm On Jun 07, 2013
PointB:

And how many people revere these brothers amongst our folks?


numerous member of your community that bows to any money spraying person. during your annual home coming at the tail end of every year.

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Re: Why Do People From South East Hate Tinubu More Than Those From South-west? by Willywilly4: 12:36pm On Jun 07, 2013
Why is it that Yoruba people glorifies their Thievery Kinsmen?, is it because of their 'give me Egunje' culture or what.

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Re: Why Do People From South East Hate Tinubu More Than Those From South-west? by Geomac: 12:39pm On Jun 07, 2013
PointB: Most people from across the Niger don't hold thieves, fraudsters, and drug barons, certificate forgers, etc in high regards, especially if they continue to shamelessly press for acceptance in public sphere.

You are only being economical with the truth.

To answer as a neutral person:

Any positive news about SW always makes some people from SE uncomfortable same with good news from SE makes some people from SW uncomfortable. Only that it is more tilted to the people of SE.

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Re: Why Do People From South East Hate Tinubu More Than Those From South-west? by PointB: 12:46pm On Jun 07, 2013
Geomac:

You are only being economical with the truth.

To answer as a neutral person:

Any positive news about SW always makes some people from SE uncomfortable same with good news from SE makes some people from SW uncomfortable. Only that it is more tilted to the people of SE.


And what exactly is the positive news about a drug baron (US*), a certificate forger (Gani*), a master of perjury, a bastard (Bakare*), a thief (Nigerians*) and boko haram sympathizer (Nigerians*). What's there to cheer about in Tinubu the notorious?


* - according to

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Re: Why Do People From South East Hate Tinubu More Than Those From South-west? by PointB: 12:46pm On Jun 07, 2013
eggheaders:


numerous member of your community that bows to any money spraying person. during your annual home coming at the tail end of every year.

And that elevates them to regional heros c.um political leader?
Re: Why Do People From South East Hate Tinubu More Than Those From South-west? by eggheaders(m): 12:47pm On Jun 07, 2013
Geomac:

You are only being economical with the truth.

To answer as a neutral person:

Any positive news about SW always makes some people from SE uncomfortable same with good news from SE makes some people from SW uncomfortable. Only that it is more tilted to the people of SE.

please can you show us any of the good work from the south east that we south Westerns are uncomfortable with. their best performing governor rochas is even more celebrated by the south western than his kinsmen.

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Re: Why Do People From South East Hate Tinubu More Than Those From South-west? by PointB: 12:49pm On Jun 07, 2013
take dat: You know that's a big lie. We know where thieves, fraudsters and drug barons are Igwes and red cap chiefs. The place where people believe that life is all about transaction, legal or illegal! Where their big men control crime syndicate, and who visit their autonomous communities during yam festivals and christmas in cars with customized plate numbers for chieftancy titles! Lol!


Support your assertion with a popular name, and tell the world how such person has been glamourised as some yorubas shameless glamorizes Tinubu?

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Re: Why Do People From South East Hate Tinubu More Than Those From South-west? by eggheaders(m): 12:53pm On Jun 07, 2013
PointB:

And that elevates them to regional heros c.um political leader?


loads of your red cap chiefs are known criminals ditto to politicians nzeribe, Jim nwobodo comes to mind. even tho tinubu most of the allegations against him ain't proven. even if he takes the devil to deliver many of the development we are getting now in the south west I dont think i give a hoot.
Re: Why Do People From South East Hate Tinubu More Than Those From South-west? by Gbawe: 12:59pm On Jun 07, 2013
Ultimately, and viewed dispassionately, Tinubu is a politician. He must be judged in terms of political efficacy, or lack thereof, by those he is primarily answerable to. We tend to over-discuss these issues when a sincere look at appropriate or abnormal human behaviour quickly gets to the bottom of the problem. Tinubu has no federal influence.

In the SW, where he has fought to rid the region of miscreants, he is appreciated and feted correctly by those who now have, in place of thugs, talented leaders moving the region forward. Even as a Party boss, members of his Party from all ethnic groups are united in singing the praise of the guy. Now, how can it be deemed normal for it to be those not at all impacted by anything Tinubu does who rant about him non-stop in a negative manner? That is aberrant behaviour hinting at underlying issues and prejudice.

Orji Kalu, for example, may be a crook but he is not my problem and I am not in the least bit interested in being his loudest critic because he has done nothing to me and whatever he does wrong should be tackled by those his actions affect directly. That is correct, appropriate and normal human behaviour.

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Re: Why Do People From South East Hate Tinubu More Than Those From South-west? by takedat(m): 1:00pm On Jun 07, 2013
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Re: Why Do People From South East Hate Tinubu More Than Those From South-west? by takedat(m): 1:01pm On Jun 07, 2013
PointB:


Support your assertion with a popular name, and tell the world how such person has been glamourised as some yorubas shameless glamorizes Tinubu?
The Ubas, Emeka Offor are all political heavyweights and kingmakers in the SE! Do you know how many known 419ners back then in Lagos who are now Igwes in their autonomous communities? What moral superiority do you then have above others when crooks are being bestowed revered kingship stool? Guy you go fear the crowd wey go commot shouting and hailing Chris Uba if he goes to Onitsha market! Lol!

P.S- I am not here to defend Tinubu!

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Re: Why Do People From South East Hate Tinubu More Than Those From South-west? by PointB: 1:07pm On Jun 07, 2013
take dat: The Ubas, Emeka Offor are all political heavyweights and kingmakers in the SE! Do you know how many known 419ners back then in Lagos who are now Igwes in their autonomous communities? What moral superiority do you then have above others when crooks are being bestowed revered kingship stool?

P.S- I am not here to defend Tinubu!


Emeka Offor and Uba are kingmakers in their bedrooms. If you believe otherwise, name how many 'kings' they have made, and while at it bring up threads/discussion that revere them.
Re: Why Do People From South East Hate Tinubu More Than Those From South-west? by Akanbiedu(m): 1:08pm On Jun 07, 2013
Well, this is what I think......

There are paid PDP/GEJ agents on nairaland. Their primary focus is on whoever appears to be strong enough to challenge their master. This didn't start with Tinubu. Before PDP presidential primaries in 2011, the attention was on Atiku and IBB. As soon as GEJ got the PDP ticket, focus shifted to Buhari.

It shouldn't be too difficult to see that Tinubu is now the biggest threat. Buhari has the grassroot in the north but we all know by now that that may not be enough. A combination of Tinubu and Buhari is capable of dethroning the GEJ administration, hence the undue attention to Tinubu's activity.

The idea to create lies everyday. People are bound to believe some of the lies if do it long enough.

The east angle is just a bonus for the propagandists. They are mere crowd that joins whoever seems to be winning.

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Re: Why Do People From South East Hate Tinubu More Than Those From South-west? by bknight: 1:11pm On Jun 07, 2013
Any politically conscious mind who is well versed in d affairs of d nation-state called 'Nigeria' shld know this...its not neurosurgery undecided
Re: Why Do People From South East Hate Tinubu More Than Those From South-west? by PapaBrowne(m): 1:17pm On Jun 07, 2013
Another tribal thread!!


I don't know if people hate Tinubu. I actually like him very much despite his capacity for kleptomania.
He is a very intelligent and suave politician.

I love what he did in 2011. He conned Ribadu and Buhari and sold out to Jonathan. He will do it again in 2015.

I actually like him very much.

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Re: Why Do People From South East Hate Tinubu More Than Those From South-west? by Nobody: 1:17pm On Jun 07, 2013
Simple....they don't have a rallying figure like him

....hate and despise what you can't get.

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Re: Why Do People From South East Hate Tinubu More Than Those From South-west? by Akanbiedu(m): 1:26pm On Jun 07, 2013
PapaBrowne: Another tribal thread!!


I don't know if people hate Tinubu. I actually like him very much despite his capacity for kleptomania.
He is a very intelligent and suave politician.

I love what he did in 2011. He conned Ribadu and Buhari and sold out to Jonathan. He will do it again in 2015.

I actually like him very much.

This is meant to incite distrust, eh?
Re: Why Do People From South East Hate Tinubu More Than Those From South-west? by PointB: 1:28pm On Jun 07, 2013
Akanbi_edu: Well, this is what I think......

There are paid PDP/GEJ agents on nairaland. Their primary focus is on whoever appears to be strong enough to challenge their master. This didn't start with Tinubu. Before PDP presidential primaries in 2011, the attention was on Atiku and IBB. As soon as GEJ got the PDP ticket, focus shited to Buhari.

It shouldn't be too difficult to see that Tinubu is now the biggest threat. Buhari has the grassroot in the north but we all know by now that that may not be enough. A combination of Tinubu and Buhari is capable of dethroning the GEJ administration, hence the undue attention to Tinubu's activity.

The idea to create lies everyday. People are bound to believe some of the lies if do it long enough.

The east angle is just an bonus for the propagandists. They are mere crowd that joins whoever seems to be winning.


Was it GEJ apologists to took Tinubu to court ob account of his certificates?
Was Tunde Bakare playing the PDP card when he questioned Tinubu's identity and called him a bastard?
What about the various sleaze linked to Tinubu, and his continuous looting of Lagos treasury via his many schemes?
Did GEJ apologists operate all those foreign accounts linked with Tinubu while in office?

Your response is typical of ACN goons, and half baked ACN intellectuals on parade in Nigeria - blame everything on the big bad PDP! In any case, Tinubu is a typical yoruba theif, loquacious to boot. In saner culture he would rather play in the shadows, not at the fore. Alas, this foolishness is called 'political sophistication'

Here are other various allegation yet to be cleared by this Tinubu and comapany:

THE UNEDITED ALLEGATION

1. 4, Oyinkan Abayomi (formerly Queens) Drive, Ikoyi: A 5-bedroom detached house on one acre of land which was originally the Lagos State Governor’s guest house since 1979, but which now belongs to Tinubu. The certificate of occupancy of the property valued at N450 million was signed and released to him by Fashola in 2007 shortly after he assumed office.

2. Tinubu’s residence at 26 Bourdillon Road, Ikoyi was initially falsely presented as Oando Plc Guest House. Later, he purportedly bought it from Oando, and used public funds to rebuild and renovate it. The Lagos State Government bought the property and paid an undisclosed sum to him and thereafter gave the property back to him under the bogus Pension Bill he signed to law shortly before he left office in 2007. The property is worth over N600 million.

3. The annex of the Lagos State Guest House in Asokoro, Abuja was bought by the State Government in 2006 for N450 million, purportedly to protect the main house from security breach. Shortly after Tinubu left office, the property was transferred to him under the pension plan he signed into law before leaving office.

4. The 250-hectare land valued at about N35billion and strategically located at the Ajah junction on Lekki Road was initially meant for a General Hospital for the people of Eti-Osa Local Government but was stolen by Tinubu and handed over to Trojan Estate Ltd – a company owned by Deji and Wale Tinubu – to develop as Royal Garden Housing Estate at the expense of the taxpayers of Lagos.

5. The 1,000 hectares of land valued at about N75billion located at Lakowe near Abijo at Ibeju-Lekki Local Government and given to Lekki Concession Company (LCC) which is partly- owned by Tinubu and Fashola and being developed as golf course and housing estate by Assets and Resource Management Ltd (ARM) as ADIVA project.

6. The prime land of 157 hectares with 2.5km of Atlantic beachfront valued at about N10billion and stolen by Tinubu from the communities of Siriwon, Igbekodo, Apakin, etc in Ibeju-Lekki Local Government and given to Ibukun Fakeye – his crony to build a golf course and luxury villa with little or no compensation to the villagers. In addition, Tinubu paid $20million (N3billion) out of public treasury to Ibukun Fakeye to commence the project in late 2006. Fashola has since released additional funding for this project, which is not owned by the state government.

7. The 14-hectare Parkview Ikoyi Estate foreshore land reclaimed by Lagos State Government is now owned by Bola Tinubu.

8. While in office, he allocated to himself the former Strabag yard beside the Lagos State Secretariat at Alausa, Ikeja. The property is now being developed into a shopping mall as big as the Palms in Lekki. This is public property brazenly stolen and now owned by Tinubu, aided by Fashola.

9. The choice property at Lekki-Epe road on which he built and owns the multi-billion naira Oriental Hotel and the extension of multi-storey car park beside it. Also, the multi-level recreation centre by Mobil in Oniru Estate on Lekki-Epe road jointly owned with ARM and Tunji Olowolafe. All these assets valued at over N25billion were obtained without paying a kobo to the Lagos State Government.

10. Tinubu and Fashola sold the following prime Lagos properties to their personal friend and front – Prince Dipo Eludoyin at very ridiculous prices:
• The 3.8-hectare of land of Lagos State Fisheries office in VI (beside the Institute of Oceanography) valued at N3billion.
• The fishery landing jetty at Badore (where the Ilubirin fishermen were to be relocated) valued at N500million
• The entire Ogudu foreshore scheme initially earmarked for a low-cost housing scheme valued at N5billion
• The Ilubinrin housing estate (which used to house Lagos state civil servants and judges up till 2007) valued at N2.5billion.
• The former Julius Berger yard at Oko Orisan, Epe valued at N450million.

11. Tinubu raised a loan of N4.7billion on Eko Akete project for which nothing was achieved before he turned around to sell the property to his Chagouri friends of Chagouri & Chagouri and Hitech Construction Ltd at a ridiculously low price at the expense of the taxpayers of Lagos.

12. Tinubu applied to personally purchase the Federal Secretariat building while in office. When he couldn’t get to buy it, he directed Fashola to stop the eventual owner of the complex to develop it. The complex is presently wasting away courtesy of the Lagos State Government.

13. It took several months of horse trading and underhand payments before Fashola could allow the new owners of 1004 flats to redevelop the complex.

14. Several other buyers of Federal Government properties and developers of properties in Ikoyi, Victoria Island and Government Reservation Area Ikeja were forced to succumb to the outrageous demands of Tinubu, Fashola, Commissioner Abosede and other officials of the Lagos State Physical Planning Ministry and were made to pay ridiculous amounts to private accounts before their redevelopments were approved. Those who refused or were unable to pay could not develop their properties. This is a major economic strangulation of property developers and has contributed largely to the skyrocketing rent in Ikoyi, VI and Lekki axis.

15. Tinubu converted all the plots of land where Lagos Polytechnic was located at Ikosi near the old toll gate. He chased away the Polytechnic in 2006 and went ahead to locate the choice plots to himself, his cronies and political associates. The headquarters of Television Continental (TVC), which is owned by him, is located there. He deprived the youths of Lagos of decent education because of his greed.

16. Tinubu singlehandedly sold the prime land on Aboyade Cole, Victoria Island which was recovered from some allotees, to UACN Properties Plc. The amount of proceeds was shrouded in secrecy.

17. Eludoyin, fronting for Tinubu, built the estate directly opposite Goshen Beach Estate in Lekki area.

18. Tinubu’s wife, Remi Tinubu, built the massive New Era Foundation youth camp at the junction of Eleko, off the Lekki-Epe express road, with Lagos State funds and has now converted it to personal use.

19. Tinubu owns the Fara Park Estate and the Beach Wood Estate both in Lekki.

20. The Critical Care unit at the Lagos State University Teaching Hospital (LASUTH) in Ikeja, built and equipped with state funds, is now owned personally by Tinubu. He has put one Dr. Sikiru Tinubu, (a supposed cousin of his) to run the outfit. It is run as a private unit and the proceeds are pocketed by the duo. The unit charges its users exorbitantly and most Lagosians can hardly afford to pay its high charges. Much of the revenue is derived from fees paid by the State Government for patients referred there by its General Hospitals.

21. Several prominent Nigerians in the judiciary, police, INEC, and other sensitive agencies have obtained prime land from former Governor Tinubu and incumbent Governor Fashola over the years without paying a kobo. Many of them had turned around to sell the land to third parties at substantial profit. Many top officials in the police, INEC and the judiciary who participated in the 2003 and 2007 elections and tribunals in states where Tinubu has interest were compromised with parcels of free prime Lagos land and cash. If the Lagos State Land’s Bureau could publish the names and identities of beneficiaries of land allotees from 2000 to date, the scandal that will result is better imagined. Gbenga Ashafa, now a Senator, and Mrs. Awofisayo were the conduits through which these acts were being perpetrated. Both were also personally involved in various dubious land transactions on their own.

22. Prime land and properties have been used to pay off public officials who are personally close to Tinubu and Fashola for “jobs well done” or for being privy to sensitive information, notably:
(a) Dele Alake, former Commissioner for Information and Strategy, was sold a whole house on Alexander Road, Ikoyi where he lived as official quarters at a give-away price.

Tinubu is a sophisticated thief currently left to run wild by FG as he serves their interest at the moment. Expect reality to change the moment his 'usefulness' expires.

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Re: Why Do People From South East Hate Tinubu More Than Those From South-west? by Nobody: 1:29pm On Jun 07, 2013
Akanbi_edu:

This is meant to incite distrust, eh?


But he failed woefully with his incitement.
Re: Why Do People From South East Hate Tinubu More Than Those From South-west? by PointB: 1:30pm On Jun 07, 2013
ilugunboy: Simple....they don't have a rallying figure like him

....hate and despise what you can't get.

Decent, hardworking, independent minded people find it very difficult to rally around thieves. We have no regrets!
Re: Why Do People From South East Hate Tinubu More Than Those From South-west? by Gbawe: 1:32pm On Jun 07, 2013
PapaBrowne: Another tribal thread!!


I don't know if people hate Tinubu. I actually like him very much despite his capacity for kleptomania.
He is a very intelligent and suave politician.

I love what he did in 2011. He conned Ribadu and Buhari and sold out to Jonathan. He will do it again in 2015.

I actually like him very much.

Do you have no shame? What kind of "capacity for kleptomania" has Tinubu displayed not seen with politicians you worship rabidly? Did GEJ and Allison-Madueke not supervise the biggest fuel subsidy scam Nigeria has ever seen only recently? Is it Uduaghan, Anenih et al who are not "kleptomaniac"?

Do you appreciate how hideously corrupt GEJ and his minions are? Please let us not go there. Behind your hypocritical utterance is illustrative proof of why folks like you dislike Tinubu. When you can hypocritically state that you hate his "kleptomania, never mind that "kleptomania" applies to virtually all Nigerian politicians to include the ones hailing from your hamlet, then it is obvious folks like you are not ready to confront let alone confess what your real issue is.

Politicians stealing is not the problem alone for Nigeria because only fools and dishonest bigots will deny that they are all stealing !!!!!!!!!!. It is politicians stealing and giving nothing back that is the main problem. That is what precludes development throughout Nigeria !!! Show how Tinubu is more guilty of that than the politicians in your region to justify calling him "kleptomanaic". Is he more "kleptomaniac" than IBB, Atiku, Anenih, OBJ, Abba Ruma, Andy Ubah, Tukur, Danjuma, Orji Kalu, GEJ, Allison-Madueke, Adoke Bello et al? Abeg talk better ojare. What positive things have "kleptomaniacs" like Atiku, IBB or Orji Kalu done for their region?

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