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Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by gawgeousnezz(f): 12:22pm On Jul 21, 2013
Reference:

thanks for the correction
Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by Billyonaire: 12:23pm On Jul 21, 2013
Jesus Christ was not speaking Parables when he said "You must be born again" to see the Kingdom of God. There is no complex word there, but most Christians search for meanings of plain word all in an attempt to confuse others.

Humans in the generation of Jesus were incapable of seeing the kingdom of God, and needed to be re-born again and again to a state of refinement which most people havent still attended yet. There are few people who have attended the Conscious of Christ, one of the was Paul, the former Saul, the persecutor. In modern times as at year 2000, there were only 6 people on Earth that attended the conscious capable of seeing the Kingdom of God, including on man from Africa, Cross Rivers State to be precise.

To be born again, means to be reincarnated after a particular life time until one attains perfection and exits the wheel of 84 and become an angel, a guiding spirit and the way-shower.

This is a painstaking research as practical chela of over 20yrs.
Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by nnady chuks(m): 12:23pm On Jul 21, 2013
If you people don't repent you don't wish to go to heaven, repent now, we don't know when Jesus christ will come, he has endured but the world is not listening to his word, we are not reading the bible. We should repent so that the blood of Jesus christ at the cross will not be in vain
Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by frosbel(m): 12:24pm On Jul 21, 2013
Billyonaire: Jesus Christ was not speaking Parables when he said "You must be born again" to see the Kingdom of God. There is no complex word there, but most Christians search for meanings of plain word all in an attempt to confuse others.

Humans in the generation of Jesus were incapable of seeing the kingdom of God, and needed to be re-born again and again to a state of refinement which most people havent still attended yet. There are few people who have attended the Conscious of Christ, one of the was Paul, the former Saul, the persecutor. In modern times as at year 2000, there were only 6 people on Earth that attended the conscious capable of seeing the Kingdom of God, include on man from Africa, Cross Rivers State to be precise.

To be born again, means to be reincarnated after a particular life time until one attains perfection and exits the wheel of 84.

This is a painstaking research as practical chela of over 20yrs.


100% False , stop reading those mystic books.

smiley
Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by edubest(m): 12:24pm On Jul 21, 2013
Water baptism! Immerson
Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by maximunimpact(m): 12:27pm On Jul 21, 2013
What Did Nicodemus Understand by
"Born Again"?

Nicodemus was a Pharisee and a teacher of Israel, a
ruler of the Jews (that is, a member of the Jewish
governing body, the Sanhedrin), who is mentioned
only in John's Gospel. Nicodemus was impressed with
the signs that Jesus performed in Jerusalem at
Passover time of 30 C.E. Consequently, he visited
Jesus one night and confessed that Jesus must have
come from God. (Insight on the Scriptures, Vol. 2,
page 497) According to John's account, the
discussion went like this:
2 He came to Jesus at night and said, "Rabbi, we
know you are a teacher who has come from God.
For no one could perform the miraculous signs
you are doing if God were not with him." 3 In
reply Jesus declared, "I tell you the truth, no one
can see the kingdom of God unless he is born
again."
4 "How can a man be born when he is old?"
Nicodemus asked. "Surely he cannot enter a
second time into his mother's womb to be born!"
5 Jesus answered, "I tell you the truth, no one can
enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of
water and the Spirit. 6 Flesh gives birth to flesh,
but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. 7 You should
not be surprised at my saying, 'You must be born
again.' 8 The wind blows wherever it pleases. You
hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it
comes from or where it is going. So it is with
everyone born of the Spirit." ―John 3:1-8. (New
International Version)
Nicodemus was puzzled by Jesus' reply about the
need to be "born again," although Jesus told him that
he "should not be surprised" at this. Since he was a
teacher of the Jews Nicodemus should have been
familiar with God's promises and prophecies, and
that is why Jesus chided him, saying, "Are you a
teacher of Israel and yet do not know these
things?" (vs. 10) What did Jesus mean when he told
Nicodemus that "no one can see the kingdom of God
unless he is born again," and why should Nicodemus
have understood this?
When we understand his answer we realize that with
these few words Jesus focused on the very heart of
what Nicodemus had just acknowledged, the
evidence that he had come from God, the purpose of
his coming and how Nicodemus and all the Jews were
involved, and the changes that were about to come
upon the entire nation of Israel in fulfillment of God's
promises as he had extensively foretold by means of
his prophets.
But before we can understand what Jesus meant we
must first determine whether Jesus had told
Nicodemus that he must be born "again" or born
"from above," for the Greek word used, άνωθεν,
anothen, (pronounced an'-o-then), can mean either.
That is why some Bibles translate Jesus as saying, "I
tell you for certain that you must be born from above
before you can see God's kingdom." (CEV)
In the King James Version the word an'-o-then
(Strong's 509) appears 13 times: three times it is
translated as "the top" (Matt. 27:51; Mark 15:38;
John 19:23), twice as "from the very first" or "from
the beginning" (Luke 1:3; Acts 26:5), five times as
"from above" (John 3:31; 19:11; James 1:17; 3:15,
17), and three times as "again" (John 3:3, 7; Gal.
4:9). Therefore, how can we determine whether Jesus
told Nicodemus that he must be born "again" or be
born "from above"; or do those two terms mean the
same?
The simple answer to this, of course is, what did
Nicodemus understand Jesus to say? According to his
reply, "How can an old man go back into his mother's
womb a second time," indicates that he understood
Jesus to say that he must be born "again" or "a
second time," (δεύτερον - Interlinear Translation). He
did not understand Jesus to say that he must be born
"from above" as this would not fit his reply to Jesus.
That is why the majority of Bible translations render
Jesus as saying "born again." (NWT, KJV, NKJV, NIV,
NLT, NIRV, HCSB, NLV, ESV, NASB, RSV, ASV,
Amplified, Young, Darby, Webster, HNV) We can also
be sure that Jesus said born again by understanding
what it was that he meant, why there was the need
to be born "again" or a "second time."
For anything to happen "again" the same thing must
have taken place at least once previously. Did Jesus
indicate to Nicodemus that he was first born in the
flesh? That is what Nicodemus thought, according to
his words. But, Jesus quickly ruled that out, saying,
"What has been born from the flesh is flesh, and
what has been born from the spirit is spirit." (vs. 6) In
other words, being born in the flesh has nothing to
do with being born again in the spirit. They are not
the same at all. Nicodemus and all the Jews had to be
born again in the same way or manner that they, as
God's people, had already been born on a previous
occasion.
Jesus and Nicodemus belonged to a nation that had
come into existence solely because of the promise
that Jehovah had made to their forefather Abraham.
God had chosen Abraham to be the one through
whom he purposed to fulfill his promise of a future
seed by means of which blessings would come to all
the nations of the earth, and that time was now at
hand. —Genesis 22:17,18.
Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by Nonybb: 12:27pm On Jul 21, 2013
Whether u are a paganist, muslim, traditionalist, an atheist, animalist, budhist, OR a church goer, u must certainly be born of the spirit of God for u to experience an everlasting or eternal relationship with the Father through Jesus
Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by Billyonaire: 12:28pm On Jul 21, 2013
frosbel:


100% False , stop reading those mystic books.

smiley

Believe what you want, know what you will and allow others the luxury of understanding what they understand.

Believing is different from knowing. You believe, but I Know the truth and understand the truth, and the truth has set me free.

Being born again means reincarnating. Jesus said it direct, that you have to be born of water and of spirit. Water is the source of life, and spirit birth is reincarnated soul.
Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by yomalex(m): 12:35pm On Jul 21, 2013
that which is born of the flesh is flesh and that which is born of the spirit is spirit


if born again equals to born of the spirit if you are born again it means you are a spirit
Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by Nonybb: 12:36pm On Jul 21, 2013
Billyonaire: Jesus Christ was not speaking Parables when he said "You must be born again" to see the Kingdom of God. There is no complex word there, but most Christians search for meanings of plain word all in an attempt to confuse others.

Humans in the generation of Jesus were incapable of seeing the kingdom of God, and needed to be re-born again and again to a state of refinement which most people havent still attended yet. There are few people who have attended the Conscious of Christ, one of the was Paul, the former Saul, the persecutor. In modern times as at year 2000, there were only 6 people on Earth that attended the conscious capable of seeing the Kingdom of God, including on man from Africa, Cross Rivers State to be precise.

To be born again, means to be reincarnated after a particular life time until one attains perfection and exits the wheel of 84 and become an angel, a guiding spirit and the way-shower.

This is a painstaking research as practical chela of over 20yrs.
u have the spirit of canality and it had profited u nothing. Dat was why u had to read bible like literature book thinking that u are deceiving anybody but urself. Look my friend u must consciously seek God for u to experience the revelation that comes frm His word. Most of u ppl always try to negotiate with God due to ur sturbborness of heart and wickedness of mind. The problem of man is that God that lead a fountain of all things in the body of christ yet u took the wrong path, seeking after the fantasy, frivolities and tradition of men because the devil have tricked u into believing nonsense and philosophical crap. First of all became born again through spiritual rebirth, then consciously seek the knwledge through His word by studying ur bible Ok
Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by trolling(m): 12:36pm On Jul 21, 2013
it means undergoing fiery trials to purge out the old man,tribualation works patience,being born again doesnt come over night as you so called Christians say..Anyways i dont know about hey.Zeus but i know about Yahshua which translates to Yah's salvation...Blessed is He that comes in the name of Yah,so we can see the name of Yah present in Yahshua's name, in english you can call him Joshua but we know that the letter j is an english alphabet, and during Yahshua;s time they spoke,Aramaic, Herew not english,and up till date there are now j's in Aramaic,Hebrew,latin, so how could they have called him jesus morever jesus was transliterated from greek and latin,well Yahshua wasnt greek or latin so how could his Hebrew Israelite parents call him by a greek and latin name,do your research Yahshua is a man of color,his brethren that hated him that is the jews delivered him up as our Passover lamb but the Euro-Gentiles killed him as required by the sacrificial law.
Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by maximunimpact(m): 12:52pm On Jul 21, 2013
The Conception and Birth of Israel, God's
"Firstborn Son"
The most precious, profound and personal gift that
we can offer to Jehovah, from his standpoint, is for us
to have faith in him and his promises. It indicates our
complete trust in him, his care for us individually,
while acknowledging his wisdom and power; and this
in spite of never having seen him or personally heard
his voice. There have been countless individuals
throughout history who have been known to have
had that sort of faith. —Hebrews 11:4-40.

Faith results in love and obedience. We cannot love
Jehovah if we have no faith in him, which we get by
coming to know him; and we obey him because we
have faith that obedience brings blessings. (Heb.
11:6) Faith is something very personal, something
tangible by which we prove what sort of person we
are. No wonder that "faith is not a possession of all
people." (2 Thess. 3:2) Abraham was a man who had
such faith. In fact, he is called "the father of all those
having faith." He set the example for all of us. —
Romans 4:11.

Abraham had first proven his faith by leaving his
home city of Ur, moving to a distant land, as Jehovah
had commanded him, and arrived in the land of
Canaan when he was already an old man of 75 years.
He had no offspring, and yet, God promised that he
would make a great nation out of him. And Abraham
put faith in that promise. —Genesis 15:5,6.

Another ten years passed, and as Abraham's wife
Sarah continued barren she now offered to Abraham
her maidservant, Hagar, in order to have a child by
her. Perhaps this was their attempt to help fulfill
God's promise. And so at the age of 86 years
Abraham became father to his son Ishmael, by
Hagar. (Gen. 16:16) But Ishmael was not the son
according to Jehovah's promise through whom the
seed would come, and by means of which all the
nations of earth would bless themselves. Jehovah
confirmed to Abraham that his own wife, Sarah,
though barren, would give birth to a son, whom he
was to name Isaac, and with him Jehovah would
conclude his covenant. —Genesis 17:15-21.

True to his promise, though another 14 years went
by, Jehovah miraculously enabled barren Sarah to
become pregnant by her husband and to give birth to
Isaac their son, when Abraham was a hundred years
old and she was ninety. With the birth of Isaac was
conceived the future nation of Israel.

“Listen to me, YOU people who are pursuing after
righteousness, YOU who are seeking to find Jehovah.
Look to the rock from which YOU were hewn out, and
to the hollow of the pit from which YOU were dug out.
Look to Abraham YOUR father and to Sarah who
gradually brought YOU forth with childbirth pains. For
he was one when I called him, and I proceeded to
bless him and to make him many." ―Isaiah 51:1-3,
15,16.

It would take time for the nation to grow, much
longer than the nine months it took from Isaac's
conception until his birth. (Ps. 139:13-17) In the case
of Israel it's development would be gradual, over a
period of more than 400 years from its conception to
the actual birth as a nation at Mount Sinai. During all
that time Jehovah, as their Father, would watch over
his "son," his people, protecting them and helping
them "even from the belly," which is "evidently
referring to the very beginning of their development
as a people." (Isa. 44:1,2) ―it-2 pp. 997-998 Son(s)
of God.

The nation started to form when two sons were born
to Isaac and Rebekah, namely, Esau and Jacob.
Jehovah chose Jacob, and repeated the covenant that
he had made with his grandfather also with him.
(Gen. 28:14,15) Jacob's name was changed to Israel
and he came to have twelve sons. (Gen. 32:27,28;
35:10-12) The danger now presented itself for the
developing nation to be integrated with the nations
round about, as became evident when Dinah, Jacob's
daughter, became involved with a son of a chieftain
of the Canaanites. (Gen. 34:1-31) In order to protect
his as yet unborn nation, Jehovah maneuvered
matters to bring them into the safety of Egypt, where
he had made Joseph, one of Jacob's twelve sons, a
powerful ruler, only subordinate to Pharaoh himself.
Also, his families were left unmolested by the
Egyptians because they were shepherds and "every
herder of sheep is a detestable thing in Egypt." (Gen.
46:33,34) There, Israel could increase in numbers,
but when they started to grow mighty the Egyptians
began to fear them as a threat and began
dominating them by enslaving them.

Jehovah had foretold all this to Abraham, the gradual
growth of the nation and the time it would take for
them to return to the promised land and take
possession of it. "And he began to say to Abram: 'You
may know for sure that your seed will become an
alien resident in a land not theirs, and they will have
to serve them, and these will certainly afflict them for
four hundred years. But the nation that they will
serve I am judging, and after that they will go out
with many goods.'" —Genesis 15:13-16.

The years progressed. The four hundred years came
to an end, and the few family members of seventy,
that had gone into Egypt, had grown into a nation of
over 600,000 male adults.* (Gen. 46:27; Ex. 12:37)
The time had now arrived for the momentous
occasion of giving birth to Jehovah's "son," his
"firstborn." But this delivery would not be without
labor pains. Jehovah sent Moses to appear before
Pharaoh: "And you must say to Pharaoh, 'This is what
Jehovah has said: "Israel is my son, my firstborn. And
I say to you: Send my son away that he may serve
me. But should you refuse to send him away, here I
am killing your son, your firstborn."'" (Ex. 4:22,23)
(*Possibly more than three million left Egypt. For
details see Insight on the Scriptures, Vol. 1, page
778-9.)

Of course, Pharaoh refused to release God's "son,"
and it took ten plagues, including the death of every
firstborn among the Egyptians, before Jehovah
procured the release of his people. Even then
Pharaoh changed his mind and chased after them,
resulting in the destruction of his entire army when
Jehovah trapped them in the Red Sea. To add to the
birth pains was the fact that they, a vast crowd, had
to wander a long distance through the wilderness,
where they and their little children suffered from the
heat, cold, hunger and thirst, before Jehovah brought
them to Mount Sinai (also known as Mt. Horeb). Here,
in the year 1513 B.C.E., the nation of Israel, as
Jehovah's son, was born when Jehovah concluded a
covenant with them, with Moses as their mediator,
validated by "the blood of the covenant" of animal
sacrifices. —Exodus 24:7,8; Ezekiel 16:3-6.

Jehovah could rightly expect his people to learn from
Abraham's example of outstanding faith, and imitate
it, as it is natural for children to look with pride to
their forefather, as did the descendants of
Jehonadab, the son of Rechab. (Gen. 18:18,19;
compare Jer. 35:1-19) Especially should this have
been the case since they knew that their very
existence came about because Jehovah himself, the
Creator of the earth and everything upon it, was their
Father, having caused their conception and now their
birth as a nation. (Isa. 41:8; James 2:23) Along with
the covenant Jehovah made this promise to them:

"And now if YOU will strictly obey my voice and will
indeed keep my covenant, then YOU will certainly
become my special property out of all [other]
peoples, because the whole earth belongs to me. And
YOU yourselves will become to me a kingdom of
priests and a holy nation." ―Exodus 19:5,6.
If the nation of Israel would prove faithful to his
covenant, as a loyal son, Jehovah would choose
exclusively from among his sons the full number of
those who would be kings and priests in his future
kingdom, by means of which blessings would come
to "the whole earth," the details of which God kept as
a "sacred secret" until his appointed time. —Rom.
11:17-27; 16:25,26; Eph. 1:4; Col. 1:26,27; Rev.
20:6.
Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by eyenCalabar(m): 12:53pm On Jul 21, 2013
Monimatic: To be born again you must"confess
with your mouth, 'Jesus is Lord,' and
believe in your heart that God raised
him from the dead, you will be
saved. For it is with your heart that
you believe and are justified, and it
is with your mouth that you confess
and are saved." Romans 10:9-10.
After Adam and Eve disobeyed God, man became a corrupted being and lost his righteousness with God, so every. one born into this world, whether young or old, man or woman, boy or girl is born with nature of sin and corruption which was as a result of Adam and Eve disobiedence, and they were sent out of the garden of Eden because they have lost their righteousness. and have being corrupted with sin.
Please note,righteousness is not forming HOLY HOLY, or be trying to be sin conscious, thaat is the misconception millions of christian have worldwide, many churches and pastors still don't understand righteousness.
RIGHTEOUSNESS is the life of God in the human life, and that life is in his son Jesus Christ, you only get that life and become righteous by confessing Jesus Christ as Lord over your life and believing in your heart that he is the son of God and he died, resurrected and he is sitted at the right hand side of God.
Like I said above by virtue of Adam and Eve disobedience in the garden of Eden, man automatically lost his righteousness with God and carried on a nature of sin, untill you act on Romans 10 vs 9-10, you are not saved yet.
Being born again is different from forgiveness of sin, if you ask for forgiveness of sin and not yet born, then you are not yet saved, many christians,churches and pastors still confuse the concept of FORGIVENESS OF SIN with the concept of BEING BORN AGAIN,do a comprehensive BIBLE STUDY on these two concepts and you will see they are different.
The death of Jesus,,was a means to an end, the kingdom of God is the end it self, by being born again, you become initiated and a citizen of the kingdom of God.
BEING BORN AGAIN, IS YOUR VISA TO ENTER THE KINGDOM OF GOD.
All you do is confess Romans 10 vs 9-10, confess it loud by personalizing it to your self and believing it whole heartedly.
Still in Church(Christ Embassy), see u guys later?

You've said it all brother. Or should I rather put it another way: the re-awakening of the human spirit to the realities of the kingdom of God.
Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by mcfynest(m): 1:01pm On Jul 21, 2013
Ghydyon: **yawns** can sum1 tel me wats going on

be born again....Lord av mercy on us
Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by frosbel(m): 1:03pm On Jul 21, 2013
To understand what Born again means in the context of Jesus's precious words, we have to understand what Gospel Jesus preached.

Jesus preached the good news of the coming Kingdom of GOD which was prophesied in Daniel as follows :

“In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever." - Daniel 2:44


And we see in Daniel 7:13, both the resurrection of Jesus and the Power and rulership bestowed upon him by the Ancient of days, Yahweh.

"13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.

14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed." - Daniel 7:13-14



Which is why we always pray ' thy kingdom come ' , which means we pray for the hastening of the establishment of God's permanent kingdom in this world, when all the wicked kingdoms will be abolished and the wicked destroyed.

We also are asked by Jesus, to 'seek the kingdom of God and his righteousness ' first and all other things will be added unto us.

Our first priority should be the Kingdom of GOD and to bring others into it, not into our church membership, but into the Kingdom of GOD.

To be part of this kingdom you MUST be 'born again' into it supernaturally , by the Spirit of GOD. This means you believe that Jesus Christ is the Messiah and Son of GOD sent to deliver us from sin and death , by his sacrifice, death , burial and resurrection , so that we are justified before God to be counted worthy as citizens of his Kingdom , where we will live forever and ever and never see death.

"For He rescued us from the domain of darkness, and transferred us to the kingdom of His beloved Son" - Colossians 1:13

Question : Are you 'born again' into this kingdom of GOD which is to be shortly established or do you love this present wicked world like Demas ?

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Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by telim: 1:10pm On Jul 21, 2013
To be born again In computing terminology means to format an infected/vulnerable operating system and install same or upgraded operating system that is free from virus and follow all the relevant steps involve in protecting the operating system against all forms of virus and malwares by installing an anti virus, password e.t.c
Relating this to human beings means a process of resetting the mind and brain, in such a way that they correlate with the teaching and practice of our lord Jesus christ.
Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by maximunimpact(m): 1:11pm On Jul 21, 2013
The "People that is to be Born"

"You were once not a people, but are now God's
people." ―1 Peter 2:10.

The covenant that Jehovah made with the nation of
Israel at Mt. Sinai, that gave birth to them as his
sons, was not the end of the journey, as if this was all
there was to God's purpose in fulfilling his promise
made immediately after the rebellion in the Garden
of Eden. (Gen. 3:15) From the very beginning
Jehovah had purposed to redeem all of Adam's
descendants, all mankind "who had not sinned after
the likeness of the transgression by Adam." (Rom.
3:21-25; 5:14, 19; 1 Cor. 15:22) Abraham's seed and
the covenant God had made with them would be the
means by which he was going to accomplish this. For
that reason the time would come when the Law
covenant, once it had served its purpose, would be
replaced by a new and better covenant. —Galatians
3:24,25.
31 “Look! There are days coming,” is the
utterance of Jehovah, “and I will conclude with
the house of Israel and with the house of Judah a
new covenant; 32 not one like the covenant that I
concluded with their forefathers in the day of my
taking hold of their hand to bring them forth out
of the land of Egypt, ‘which covenant of mine
they themselves broke, although I myself had
husbandly ownership of them,’ is the utterance of
Jehovah.”
33 “For this is the covenant that I shall conclude
with the house of Israel after those days,” is the
utterance of Jehovah. “I will put my law within
them, and in their heart I shall write it. And I will
become their God, and they themselves will
become my people.”
34 “And they will no more teach each one his
companion and each one his brother, saying,
‘KNOW Jehovah!’ for they will all of them know
me, from the least one of them even to the
greatest one of them,” is the utterance of
Jehovah. “For I shall forgive their error, and their
sin I shall remember no more.” ―Jeremiah
31:31-34.
Nicodemus, as a teacher of Israel, would have (should
have) been very familiar with Jehovah's promise of a
new covenant, as foretold by Jeremiah. The time had
now arrived for Jehovah to bring this about and
Nicodemus, along with all the Jews, should have been
in expectation of it, especially since he confessed
that the signs that Jesus performed provided
evidence that he had come from God. —Luke 3:15.
One striking difference of this new covenant was that
God's law would be written in the heart of his people,
instead of on stone tablets and parchment as had
been the case with the old covenant, and to which
the Jewish religious leaders had added abundantly.
(Matt. 23:1-4) Yes, instead of obeying God because of
some written code—made up of rules and
regulations, as is common among man-made
organizations—under the new covenant God's people
would obey him because of their faith and deep love
for him, all of them having come to know Jehovah
"from the least one of them even to the greatest one
of them."
Please note that Jehovah says concerning the house
of Israel and the house of Judah that "I will become
their God, and they themselves will become my
people." (vs. 33) Was Jehovah not already their God,
and were they not also his people who were born to
him at Mt. Sinai, due to the covenant mediated by
Moses? Yes, the Jews had enjoyed their
relationship with God as sons on account of
that covenant. Since it was about to become
"obsolete" their relationship could no longer
continue based on a covenant that no longer
existed . The end of the old covenant would also end
their special relationship with God! Therefore, for
them to again become God's people, and have
Jehovah once more become their God, they needed to
be born "again," a "second" time, by being brought
into the new covenant. —Colossians 2:13,14;
Hebrews 8:13.
Also, an outstanding feature of the new covenant is
the forgiveness of sins. (Jer. 31:34) How is this
different from the forgiveness the Jews obtained from
their animal sacrifices at the temple? The life of an
animal is never equal to that of a man, and thus can
never fully compensate God for the sins committed
by his people. Paul explains that "it is not possible for
the blood of bulls and of goats to take sins
away." (Heb. 10:4) God's people were guilty of sins
by failing to live up to all that the Law of the old
covenant required of them, and were in need of
forgiveness. (Gal. 3:19) The new covenant made that
possible because of the superior sacrifice of the
perfect man Jesus. (Heb. 9:12-14; 1 Peter 2:24) The
Jews needed to accept the mediator of the new
covenant in order to have their transgressions
forgiven and inherit the promises God had made to
the nation. The apostle Paul explains it this way:
"Therefore he is the mediator of a new covenant, so
that those who are called may receive the promised
eternal inheritance, since a death has occurred that
redeems them from the transgressions committed
under the first covenant." (Heb. 9:15, ESV) Having
their sins thus forgiven would make it possible for
the nation to get a fresh start, in a cleansed
condition, by being born again. This new covenant
was not "like the covenant that [God] concluded with
their forefathers." (Jer. 31:31,32) Nicodemus, as a
"teacher of Israel," should have understood most of
these things.
This new covenant would further fulfill God's promise
to Abraham that "all the nations of the earth must
bless themselves by means of him." It would
embrace not only Abraham's natural descendants, as
God's firstborn son, but now also people of all the
nations would be "born" to God as his added sons. —
Gen. 18:18; Ex. 4:22; Matt. 5:9; 2 Cor. 6:17,18.
27 All the ends of the earth will remember and
turn back to Jehovah. And all the families of
the nations will bow down before you. 28 For
the kingship belongs to Jehovah, And he is
dominating the nations. . . 30 A seed itself will serve
him; It will be declared concerning Jehovah to the
generation. 31 They will come and tell of his
righteousness To the people that is to be born,
that he has done [this]. ―Psalms 22:27-31.
Jehovah is a faithful God. (Deut. 7:9) Abraham's faith
in him was not in vain. Not only did Abraham's seed
become as "the stars of the heavens and like the
grains of sand that are on the seashore," but also
through them blessings would come to all mankind.
(Gen. 22:17,18) It was his seed who was entrusted
with the sacred pronouncements of God, and from
among them the promised "seed" or Messiah
appeared. It was Abraham's seed that got to know
Jehovah because of their covenant with him, and now
the ones who put faith in Christ and were born again
could "tell of his righteousness" to "all the families of
the nations," yes, "to the people that is to be born."
—Romans 3:1,2; 9:4,5; Galatians 3:7-9.
Under the new covenant people of all nations would
be born to God, but only the Jews who had been in
the previous covenant could be born "again." The
mediator of the new covenant, Christ Jesus, validated
the new covenant by means of his own shed blood.
Anyone who exercises faith in "the blood of the
covenant" will have his sins forgiven and be "born"
from God by being brought into that new covenant.
—Galatians 3:14-16; Revelation 7:14.
Everyone believing that Jesus is the Christ has
been born from God , and everyone who loves the
one that caused to be born loves him who has been
born from that one. 2 By this we gain the knowledge
that we are loving the children of God, when we are
loving God and doing his commandments. 3 For this
is what the love of God means, that we observe his
commandments; and yet his commandments are not
burdensome, 4 because everything that has been
born from God conquers the world. And this is
the conquest that has conquered the world, our faith.
―1 John 5:1-4.

Everyone born from God "conquers the world" as
Jesus did, by keeping integrity and not being any
part of the world of which Satan is the ruler. (John
12:31; 15:17-21) How different this now was for
people of the nations who previously were "without
Christ, alienated from the state of Israel and
strangers to the covenants of the promise, and had
no hope and were without God in the world." (Eph.
2:12) They now had the same opportunity as the
Jews of being born from God and becoming his sons.
13 But now in union with Christ Jesus YOU who
were once far off have come to be near by the
blood of the Christ. 14 For he is our peace, he
who made the two parties one and destroyed the
wall in between that fenced them off. 15 By
means of his flesh he abolished the enmity, the
Law of commandments consisting in decrees,
that he might create the two peoples in union
with himself into one new man and make peace;
16 and that he might fully reconcile both peoples
in one body to God through the torture stake,
because he had killed off the enmity by means of
himself. 17 And he came and declared the good
news of peace to YOU, the ones far off, and peace
to those near, 18 because through him we, both
peoples, have the approach to the Father by one
spirit. ―Eph. 2:13-18.

There would no longer be any distinction between a
Jew and a Gentile under the new covenant, for they
would both equally be born as sons of God. It is to
these believing Gentiles that Jesus referred when he
said, "And I have other sheep, which are not of this
fold; those also I must bring, and they will listen to
my voice, and they will become one flock, one
shepherd."—John 10:16; Rom. 10:11,12; Gal. 3:26.
The new covenant is actually the restored original
covenant of life that Jehovah had made with Adam,
which now makes possible for all of his offspring to
be completely reconciled to God through their faith in

Christ Jesus. (2 Cor. 5:18,19; Col. 1:20) There is no
other future third covenant necessary. Jesus did not
make "a covenant for a kingdom" with his disciples
on the night he was arrested, as is taught by the
Society. On that occasion he simply promised that
they would receive the kingdom, the means by which
blessings will flow to redeemed mankind under the
new covenant, for God's kingdom will replace all
present oppressive human governments. —Dan.
7:13,14, 27; Luke 22:29,30; Rev. 3:21. (see Did Jesus
make a covenant for a kingdom?)

The only distinction that will endure forever will be
regarding the "Israel of God," which had its root
firmly planted in the covenant Jehovah had made
with Abraham. Since the root was holy, the 144,000
branches would also be holy, even though some of
the domestic branches had been broken off
[unfaithful Jews] and replaced by "wild" branches
[believing Gentiles]. —Romans 11:16; Revelation
7:4-8.
It might be good to note at this point that although
the Jews were born from God as his sons, none of
them had the opportunity of ruling with Christ in his
heavenly kingdom, that is, not until the time of
Christ's actual appearance; no, not even John the
Baptist who prepared the way for him. That is why
Jesus said regarding him: "I tell you the truth, of all
who have ever lived, none is greater than John the
Baptist. Yet even the least person in the Kingdom of
Heaven is greater than he is!" (Matt. 11:11, NLT)
King David certainly was God's son, yet he did not
have the heavenly hope. Therefore, Jesus told
Nicodemus, "No man has ascended into heaven but
he that descended from heaven, the Son of man." —
John 3:13; compare Acts 2:34.
It is evident, that to qualify as being born from God
as his son, one does not need to have the heavenly
hope. There is no scriptural basis for suggesting that
this designation has changed. Those who will rule
with Christ are chosen from among God's sons. Such
future rulers may be viewed as God's sons in a
special sense, as God spoke of his king designate,
Solomon, "I myself shall become his father, and he
himself will become my son." (2 Sam. 7:14) All who
will "inherit the earth" will be sons of God just as
Adam was a "son of God" before his rebellion. (Matt.
5:5; Luke 3:38) ―it-2 pp. 998 Son(s) of God.
Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by tha_originator: 1:12pm On Jul 21, 2013
Wait o, you guys call jesus ur lord and saviour, yet you also said he will be resurrected by another lord/god. What is wrong with you guys? Are guys confused?

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Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by tha_originator: 1:14pm On Jul 21, 2013
gawgeousnezz: Being born again provides you the means to see God's Glory...it explains seeing the kingdom of God but John 3:5 went further to explain that being born of water(baptism) and spirit(Word) then you can ENTER the kingdom of God. So it's not enough to SEE God's kingdom but we need to ENTER into it.... Shalom
lol... Very funny!
Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by igala1(m): 1:18pm On Jul 21, 2013
Monimatic: To be born again you must"confess
with your mouth, 'Jesus is Lord,' and
believe in your heart that God raised
him from the dead, you will be
saved. For it is with your heart that
you believe and are justified, and it
is with your mouth that you confess
and are saved." Romans 10:9-10.
After Adam and Eve disobeyed God, man became a corrupted being and lost his righteousness with God, so every. one born into this world, whether young or old, man or woman, boy or girl is born with nature of sin and corruption which was as a result of Adam and Eve disobiedence, and they were sent out of the garden of Eden because they have lost their righteousness. and have being corrupted with sin.
Please note,righteousness is not forming HOLY HOLY, or be trying to be sin conscious, thaat is the misconception millions of christian have worldwide, many churches and pastors still don't understand righteousness.
RIGHTEOUSNESS is the life of God in the human life, and that life is in his son Jesus Christ, you only get that life and become righteous by confessing Jesus Christ as Lord over your life and believing in your heart that he is the son of God and he died, resurrected and he is sitted at the right hand side of God.
Like I said above by virtue of Adam and Eve disobedience in the garden of Eden, man automatically lost his righteousness with God and carried on a nature of sin, untill you act on Romans 10 vs 9-10, you are not saved yet.
Being born again is different from forgiveness of sin, if you ask for forgiveness of sin and not yet born, then you are not yet saved, many christians,churches and pastors still confuse the concept of FORGIVENESS OF SIN with the concept of BEING BORN AGAIN,do a comprehensive BIBLE STUDY on these two concepts and you will see they are different.
The death of Jesus,,was a means to an end, the kingdom of God is the end it self, by being born again, you become initiated and a citizen of the kingdom of God.
BEING BORN AGAIN, IS YOUR VISA TO ENTER THE KINGDOM OF GOD.
All you do is confess Romans 10 vs 9-10, confess it loud by personalizing it to your self and believing it whole heartedly.
Still in Church(Christ Embassy), see u guys later?
Well since all must be 'born again' to make heaven, so at what age would a pastor's child be born again if he is a christian from birth?
Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by igala1(m): 1:24pm On Jul 21, 2013
curfew: the bible explains itself, but the wise men of this world go to and fro looking for knowledge, deceiving and being deceived. here is the meaning of being born again:

"A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them." (Ezekiel 36:26-27).

forget what the so called pentecostal say that if you confess your sin and accept JESUS, there and then, you are born again. only the CREATOR can create a new man.
Well explained. Being born again isn't simply repetition of confession but it is evident in ones lifestyle

Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by Nobody: 1:26pm On Jul 21, 2013
Christians and many others believe that being “born again” means to profess your sins and believe that Jesus Christ died for your sins. Then they falsely believe that they will go to heaven when they die based upon that shallow belief with no other effort. Why would eternal life be that easy to obtain?

You have a choice to believe the truth or continue in the false perception that Jesus will save you without you doing anything to save yourself. Jesus was only the metaphor for demonstrating how to realize the Divine already within each of us and escape the pain of return after endless return. Almost all of us have been here before or in some other lower realm. Some have even fallen from higher realms. We lose our memories when we return so that our previous lives do not hinder our progress in the current life.

Being born again means disconnection from the "I" or the ego mind. The part of you that thinks you are seperate from the God mind. Truth is we all make up the God mind and reincarnation will contineu until we correct that.

Bible verses are not needed to do the right things or to know the right things to do. We are multi-dimensional beings who have the gift of dreams and visions. These our our God attributes
Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by esere826: 1:28pm On Jul 21, 2013
My understanding of this scripture:

Biblically, being "Born again" was not initially used to refer to what modern xtians have now come to ascribe it as being. You can always do an electronc search through the bible to see for yourself.
Jesus used the term in a very simple way. Let me show you -

Nichodemus: “Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the signs you are doing if God were not with him.”
Jesus : “Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again/from above.”


INTERPRETATION: You Nichodemus, have a NEW MIND that is why you can SEE my actions and ACKNOWLEDGE that I am from God.

Nichodemus did not understand what Jesus was saying, so he asked:
Nichodemus : How can someone be born when they are old?” “Surely they cannot enter a second time into their mother’s womb to be born!”
Jesus : “Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit/wind. Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit."


INTEPRETATION : You see that you could not understand me. This is a lesson to you, that although you have SEEN the kingdom (have a new mind), but you need to ENTER into it. This goes beyond just having a NEW MIND to actually being able to DICEPHER/SOAK/UNDERSTAND the language of the kingdom. Whereas SEEING is tangible, UNDERSTANDING is as intangible/elusive/flexible as water and wind.

Jesus : "You should not be surprised at my saying, ‘You all must be born again. The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.”

INTERPRETATION : So guys dont be surprised when I speak in parables saying you must be born again. Those that have ENTERED the kingdom (born of the spirit), are able to understand the kind of GOD TALK I have just said
Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by dewaskillz: 1:44pm On Jul 21, 2013
What a well thought out article but am still confused cos I have not listened to d back up evidence of our priests who believe jesus meant spiritual resurrection
Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by Sunglow: 1:45pm On Jul 21, 2013
@monimatic i knew u were a christ embassy person.thank God 4 dat ministry n d revelatns we rec.d answer u gave is so on POINT.God bless u brother.
Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by dewaskillz: 1:45pm On Jul 21, 2013
dewaskillz: What a well thought out article but am still confused cos I have not listened to d back up evidence of our priests who believe jesus meant spiritual resurrection
Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by bad_ass_nigga(m): 1:53pm On Jul 21, 2013
mcfynest:

be born again....Lord av mercy on us

dnt deceive urself u gullible peeps. u ppl r in bondage.

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Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by maximunimpact(m): 1:59pm On Jul 21, 2013
"A Nation Born at One Time"

"Who has heard such a thing? Who has seen such
things? Shall a land be born in one day?
Shall a nation be brought forth in one moment? For
as soon as Zion was in labor
she brought forth her children."—Isaiah 66:8, ESV
The new covenant came into operation at Pentecost
33C.E., which, according to the Jewish calendar was
Sivan 6; and with that the old Law covenant became
obsolete. It is interesting what Insight on the
Scriptures notes regarding this date: "The Jews
traditionally hold that Pentecost corresponded to the
time of the giving of the Law at Sinai, when Israel
became a distinguished people. It was early in the
third month (Sivan) that the Israelites gathered at
Sinai and received the Law. (Ex 19:1) Just as Moses
as mediator was used to introduce Israel into the Law
covenant, so Jesus Christ as Mediator of spiritual
Israel* now brought that new nation into the new
covenant." ―Vol. 2, page 599. (*Note: The term
"spiritual Israel" is not found in the Bible.)
It had taken the nation of Israel a period of several
hundred years to form; and its birth, with the
covenant made at Mount Sinai, had been
accompanied with great birth pangs, labor pains. But
their new birth, with the new covenant, was going to
be astonishingly different. It would take place in one
day, before there could even be any "birth pangs."
Before she began to come into labor pains she gave
birth. Before birth pangs could come to her, she even
gave deliverance to a male child. Who has heard of a
thing like this? Who has seen things like these? Will a
land be brought forth with labor pains in one day? Or
will a nation be born at one time? For Zion has come
into labor pains as well as given birth to her sons.
―Isaiah 66:7,8

Zion, in Jerusalem, was where Jehovah's temple
stood and where God's sons were worshiping him
according to the old Law covenant, although they
continually broke it. But it was not this Zion that
Isaiah prophesied would give birth to her sons.
Because the sacred ark was situated in Jehovah's
temple on Mount Zion, Zion came to represent
Jehovah's presence and heavenly realities. Quoting
Insight on the Scriptures, "Zion became a mountain
especially holy to Jehovah when David had the sacred
Ark transferred there. Later, the designation “Zion”
embraced the temple area on Mount Moriah (where
the Ark was moved during Solomon’s reign) and the
term was, in fact, applied to the entire city of
Jerusalem. (Compare Isa 1:8; 8:18; see MOUNTAIN
OF MEETING.) Since the Ark was associated with
Jehovah’s presence and because Zion was a symbol
of heavenly realities, Zion was referred to as the
place of God’s dwelling and the place from which
help, blessing, and salvation would come." ―Vol. 2,
page 1236.

Before his ascension to heaven Jesus had told his
disciples not to withdraw from Jerusalem, "but keep
waiting for what the Father has promised." While his
disciples had already been baptized by John the
Baptist in water, showing "that they had repented of
their sins and turned to God to be forgiven," they
were about to be "baptized in holy spirit not many
days after this." (Mark 1:4, 8, NLT; Acts 1:4) As the
Father had promised by means of the prophet Isaiah,
Zion was about to give birth to her sons and his new
nation was about to be born in one day, "at one
time." The account in Acts tells us what happened
when Jesus' twelve apostles and 108 disciples were
gathered together:

On the day of Pentecost all the believers were
meeting together in one place. Suddenly, there
was a sound from heaven like the roaring of a
mighty windstorm, and it filled the house where
they were sitting. Then, what looked like flames
or tongues of fire appeared and settled on each of
them. And everyone present was filled with the
Holy Spirit and began speaking in other
languages, as the Holy Spirit gave them this
ability. ―Acts 2:1-4, NLT.

Regarding the Spirit, Jesus had told Nicodemus that
"the wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its
sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or
where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the
Spirit." (John 3:cool On the last night with his disciples
Jesus had promised them "the helper, the holy spirit,
which the Father will send in my name, that one will
teach you all things and bring back to your minds all
the things I told you." (John 14:26; 15:26; 16:7) Now,
on this day of Pentecost, God sent the promised
helper by pouring out the holy spirit upon the 120
disciples. Since the holy spirit is not visible to the
eyes, God made it evident when it was accompanied
by the sound from heaven "like the roaring of a
mighty windstorm" (NLT), so loud that it brought the
multitude, that had gathered in Jerusalem for the
festival, running to the house where the disciples
were gathered. They could hear the sound but could
not see where it came from. Inside, the holy spirit
made itself evident when "flames or tongues of fire"
settled upon each of the 120 individuals receiving it.
—Acts 2:2-6.

The disciples had previously already been "born of
water," having been baptized which made
forgiveness of their sins possible once Christ had
paid the ransom, resulting in their clean standing
before God. (1 Cor. 6:11; Heb. 9:14) Now they had
been baptized also with holy spirit which filled them
with "all the fullness that God gives," empowering
them to understand and "grasp what is the breadth
and length and height and depth." (Eph. 3:18,19)
Full of holy spirit, the apostle Peter was able to
explain to the crowd that had gathered, the
significance of what had just occurred, according to
Joel's prophecy: “And after that it must occur that I
shall pour out my spirit on every sort of flesh, and
your sons and your daughters will certainly prophesy.
As for your old men, dreams they will dream. As for
your young men, visions they will see. And even on
the menservants and on the maidservants in those
days I shall pour out my spirit."
—Joel 2:28,29.

With the outpouring of his holy spirit Jehovah
brought the new covenant into force, thus giving
birth to his new nation — his household, made up of
Christ's disciples. As foretold by his prophet Isaiah,
his new nation was "born in one day," "in one
moment." It was not Zion, the city of Jerusalem, that
gave birth to God's new nation, but rather this came
from Jehovah himself: "'Shall I bring to the point of
birth and not cause to bring forth?' says the LORD;
'shall I, who cause to bring forth, shut the womb?'
says your God." —Isa. 66:8,9; ESV.
Jehovah began to lay the foundation of his new
nation with his chosen twelve apostles and 108 other
disciples, all of them natural offspring of Abraham;
with "Christ Jesus himself [as] the foundation
cornerstone." (see Summary) Keeping "the covenant
in force for the many for one week [of years],"
Jehovah continued to choose exclusively from among
faithful Jews for another three and a half years to add
to the foundation of his household, until 36 C.E.,
when Cornelius became the first Gentile to be added
until the full "foreordained" number of 144,000
would be fulfilled. —Daniel 9:27; Acts 10:1, 44-48;
Romans 11:13, 17-24; Ephesians 2:19-22.

Of what use is a foundation, unless a building is
constructed upon it? (Luke 6:47,48; 14:29,30) A
foundation is of a specific size, having definite
dimensions, which includes the one cornerstone. On
the other hand, that which is build upon it is only
limited by what the foundation can bear. After laying
the foundation on the day of Pentecost, Jehovah also
immediately build upon the foundation with "about
three thousand souls [that] were added." These three
thousand had responded to Peter's speech and
consequently repented and were baptized for
forgiveness of their sins. (Acts 2:37-41) Likely
Jehovah chose a number of them in order to add
them to the 120 foundation stones. But most of the
newly baptized disciples were built upon the
foundation. The two loaves of newly ripened grain
that were presented to God at Pentecost under the
old covenant had pictured these two groups: 1. The
anointed disciples who would eventually number
144,000, and who were the foundation, with Jesus as
the foundation cornerstone; and 2. The countless
others, "all those who [are] rightly disposed for
everlasting life," who are build upon this foundation,
and whose natural hope of life on earth is assured by
Jehovah. (Rev. 14:1, 3; 7:9,10; John 3:16; Acts 13:48;
1 John 4:9) Both groups were presented before
Jehovah on that day; both taken from among sinful
mankind as the loaves, having been baked leavened,
symbolized. * (See footnote) —Leviticus 23:16-20.

The 120 disciples, who were anointed with holy spirit
as the foundation stones, and the 3000 who were
baptized that day, were thus "born again" and
brought into the new covenant, becoming God's sons
for a second time since the old covenant was from
this day on no longer valid. Samaritans, and later
Gentiles, would also be born from God, but for their
first time. (Rom. 8:14; Gal. 4:4-7) In this way "the
whole building [was] being harmoniously joined
together, growing into a holy temple for Jehovah,"
and "built up together into a place for God to inhabit
by spirit." —Ephesians 2:19-22; Hebrews 3:6; 1 Peter
2:4-6.

All who belong to Jehovah have been "born of
water" (by baptism) and are also born of the spirit. It
is God's spirit that teaches us to know the things of
God, "for the spirit searches into all things, even the
deep things of God. . . But a physical man does not
receive the things of the spirit of God, for they are
foolishness to him; and he cannot get to know them,
because they are examined spiritually." (1 Cor.
2:10-14) All of God's faithful people have God's spirit,
as a recent Watchtower article acknowledged:
"Genuine anointed Christians. . . do not believe that
they necessarily have more holy spirit than their
companions of the other sheep have." ―The
Watchtower, May 1, 2007, page 31.

We are born from God, according to his will and
promise, and are brought into the new covenant as
we are adopted as his sons and daughters. As such
we become members of his household, some as
foundation stones, others built upon this foundation;
and if we remain there, faithful, we will inherit the
blessings that Jehovah had originally intended for
Adam's offspring, had Adam remained faithful. —2
Cor. 6:16-18; Gen. 1:27,28; Ps. 37:10,11, 29; Rev.
20:3,4.

Do not allow anyone to rob you of your precious
relationship with your heavenly Father, for you were
bought with a price and have been brought into the
new covenant, born from water (by your baptism)
and the Spirit (generously poured out upon us),
which has been made possible by the "blood of the
covenant." —1 Cor. 6:19,20; 7:23.
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Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by danielonyisi(m): 2:00pm On Jul 21, 2013
bad_ass_nigga: it means to commit suicide ...and come bak to lyf. fake religion
point of correction
Christainity is not a religion like other religion but a way of life(christ like)
christainity dont support suicide......OKAY?
Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by sylve11: 2:10pm On Jul 21, 2013
Reincarnation i must say. . . one must be born and be reborn with clean spirit for he/she to see God. That's a mystical teaching from Jesus. Dont have strength to write much. cool
Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by Redhot111: 2:40pm On Jul 21, 2013
bad_ass_nigga: it means to commit suicide ...and come bak to lyf. fake religion
are a cow?
Re: ''born Again'' -what Did Jesus Mean? by maximunimpact(m): 2:45pm On Jul 21, 2013
In a Nutshell:

The Jews were born as a nation at Mount Sinai, and
became God's people when they, at that time,
entered into the covenant with God. The entire
nation, "every man of Israel," including the little
ones, and their wives, were included in that
covenant, "for the purpose of establishing you
today as his people and that he may prove himself
your God." (Deut. 29:10-13) That covenant was
made with Abraham's offspring for the purpose of
producing the promised Seed, thereby
safeguarding the lineage through which the
Messiah would come by means of whom "all
nations of the earth will certainly bless
themselves," according to God's promise to
Abraham. (Gen. 22:16-18; Matt. 1:1-16; Luke
3:23-34)

God also foretold that once this covenant had
fulfilled its divine purpose, he would then make a
new and better covenant with his people, thereby
rendering the former old covenant obsolete.
Nicodemus, a leader and teacher among the Jews,
should have been familiar with God's promise of a
new covenant, as foretold by the prophet
Jeremiah. (Jer. 31:31-34; Heb. 8:7-9, 13) When he
failed to get the sense of Jesus' words, "You people
must be born again," Jesus scolded him, saying:
"Are you a teacher of Israel and yet do not know
these things?" (John 3:7, 9,10) Clearly, not only
Nicodemus, but all the Jews should have been in
expectation of the Messiah, including God's
promise of making a new covenant with them.
Being God's people under the old covenant, the
Jews needed to be "born again" by entering into
the new covenant upon termination of the old one;
but how could they if they rejected the mediator of
that new covenant? (Heb. 9:13-15) Only by
entering into the new covenant could they inherit
the promise God had made them: "And you
yourselves will become to me a kingdom of priests
and a holy nation," for it was by means of the new
covenant that this was to be fulfilled. (Exodus
19:5,6) That is why Jesus said to Nicodemus:
"Unless anyone is born again, he cannot see the
kingdom of God." (John 3:3)

When Jesus told Nicodemus that "anyone" [of you
people, the Jews] must be born "again" in order to
see the kingdom of God, he was not referring to
"people of the nations," the Gentiles, who had not
been previously in the old covenant, but were
"alienated from the state of Israel and strangers to
the covenants of the promise." (Eph. 2:11-18;
Matt. 15:24) Yet, through their faith in Jesus,
people of the nations could now also become God's
people, under the new covenant; no, not as
proselytes as before, but as genuine "sons of
God." (Rom. 10:12; Gal. 3:26; Eph. 2:19-22; 1 John
3:9; 5:1) Both Jews and Gentiles are equally "born
from God" when they are baptized, in obedience to
Jesus' command, at which time they receive "the
free gift of the holy spirit." Thus they are "born
from water and spirit." This was true also in Jesus'
own case. (Matt. 3:16,17; 28:19; compare Acts
2:38; 8:14-17; 10:47; 11:15-17; 19:1-6; 1 Peter
3:21) It is only by means of this new covenant that
anyone can enjoy a personal relationship with God,
just as he foretold regarding it: "'I will become
their God, and they themselves will become my
people." (Jer. 31:33; Acts 15:14-18)

At the moment of a person's baptism, he also
receives the benefits of the ransom, including the
forgiveness of his previous sins. (1 John 2:-3, 12)
He is now a member of God's household, which is
God's holy temple, "a place for God to inhabit by
spirit." (Eph. 2:21,22; 3:5,6; 1 Cor. 3:16,17) As
long as he remains within God's temple he is
assured of inheriting God's kingdom, which means
the everlasting life that God promised, and as
Jesus told Nicodemus. (John 3:16; Jude 21; Heb.
6:4-6; Matt. 13:40-43) The vast majority of
mankind will live right here on earth, according to
God's original purpose for Adam and his offspring;
whereas a small number are chosen by God from
among Christ's disciples to rule with Jesus in his
heavenly kingdom, by which God will bring about
the blessings to the nations that he first promised
to Abraham. (Daniel 7:13,14, 27; Matt. 5:5; 6:10;
19:27,28; Rev. 3:21; 20:6)
Summary:

• "Born again" does not refer to some sort of
spiritual resurrection.

• The nation of Israel was born as God's people at
Mount Sinai when God made the covenant with
them, with Moses as the mediator, " for the
purpose of establishing you today as his
people and that he may prove himself your
God ." (Deut. 29:12,13)

• God foretold: "Look! There are days coming and I
will conclude with the house of Israel and with the
house of Judah a new covenant; not one like the
covenant that I concluded with their
forefathers . . . I will put my law within them, and
in their heart I shall write it. And I will become
their God, and they themselves will become
my people ." (Jer. 31:31-33; Heb. 8:6-13) Please
note, with the new covenant they would renew
their relationship with God as his people; he would
become their God again, and they his people
again.

• The foretold new covenant became operative on
the day of Pentecost, with Jesus as the mediator,
when he poured out the holy spirit upon the 120
disciples. (Acts 2:1-42; Heb. 9:13-15, 18-22)

• Isaiah's prophecy was fulfilled on Pentecost:
"Before she began to come into labor pains she
gave birth. Before birth pangs could come to her,
she even gave deliverance to a male child. Who
has heard of a thing like this? Who has seen things
like these? Will a land be brought forth with labor
pains in one day? Or will a nation be born at
one time? For Zion has come into labor
pains as well as given birth to her
sons ." (Isaiah 66:7,cool The Jews, who exercised
faith in the mediator Christ Jesus, became the
nation that was born at one time, in one day. They
were thus born again, again becoming God's
people while He again became their God. The Jews
who failed to enter into the new covenant, by
rejecting the mediator, would no longer be God's
covenant people. (Paul in his letter to the
Galatians illustrates the two covenants by
comparing them to the birth of Hagar's son and
Sarah's son; Gal. 4:21-31; Rom. 10:1-4; Heb. 8:13)
Nicodemus, as a teacher of Israel, should have
known these prophecies, as Jesus indicated to him.
(John 3:9,10) When he went to visit Jesus that
night, he had the privilege of being instructed by
the mediator of the new covenant. This is what
Jesus was impressing on him.

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