idnoble135: It is looks controversial truly, considering the fact that a woman going for the IVF means she is fertile but not so with her hubby.
That implies that she would be recieving the seed of another man to make her pregnant.
To me, it is permissible in as much the donor of the seed is anonymous and her husband is aware and agrees with this step.

idnoble135: It is looks controversial truly, considering the fact that a woman going for the IVF means she is fertile but not so with her hubby.
That implies that she would be recieving the seed of another man to make her pregnant.
To me, it is permissible in as much the donor of the seed is anonymous and her husband is aware and agrees with this step.

mazaje:

The part in bold is very false. . .

okeyxyz:

Half-baked knowledge is dangerous. So you go about believing that every woman who undergoes IVF has an infertile husband?? The use of IVF as a response to male infertility is only in the very minority of cases. You have no excuse for this kind of dangerous ignorance. Google is your friend and the internet is free.

idnoble135:
mstcheeew! I said what i thought it was. If you needed to quote me, you would correct me and nothing the sermon you gave above!

idnoble135:
All ears...

okeyxyz:

I needed to emphasize your errors because that mindset is dangerous. You go about having wrong assumptions that is bound to cause offense and trouble in our kind of society.

mazaje:

IVF is the process by which egg is fertilized by sperm outside the body. . .The process involves observing a woman's ovulatory process, removing ovum or ova (egg or eggs) from the woman's ovaries and letting sperm fertilize them in a fluid medium in a laboratory. The sperm for married couples mostly comes from the husband. . .25 percent of women can not conceive naturally due to one medical condition or the other, so IVF is the miracle or cure they need. . .

Sanboy25: No.

idnoble135:
always giving brief answers. Are you economising words?

No.

J.Sparrow:
Discussig with a female friend this evening and was suprised to find out that she considered the IVF procedure to be in conflict with the bibliccal concept of " waiting on the Lord". Personally I see IVF as every other fertility treatment. I believe when medical options have been exhausted or when there was no medical condition in the first place then the concept of "waitin on the Lord" can set in. By the way a succesful IVF procedure is a miracle in itself. That's my opinion anyway would like to hear your contributions please

idnoble135: It is looks controversial truly, considering the fact that a woman going for the IVF means she is fertile but not so with her hubby.

That implies that she would be recieving the seed of another man to make her pregnant.
To me, it is permissible in as much the donor of the seed is anonymous and her husband is aware and agrees with this step.

Sanboy25:
No.

idnoble135:
lol, sanboy used to be jovial, i hope she is not moody.

I'm still aren't I? I'm just bored and looking for a good subject that I show interest in in order for me to start a big debate with someone...

tpia@:


not necessarily, there are other factors involved.





if the couple are christians, they can consider adoption, or they can simply continue as they are as long as there are no other issues.

however, its their decision but for reasons of conscience, they should stick with what is biblical.

mazaje:

Here is what the bible recommends for sick people. . .


Jam 5:14 Is anyone among you sick? Let them call the elders of the church to pray over them and anoint them with oil in the name of the Lord.

Jam 5:15 And the prayer offered in faith will make the sick person well; the Lord will raise them up. If they have sinned, they will be forgiven.

Why do christians go to hospitals and take drugs from pharmacies since the bible has clearly told them what to do when they fall sick?. . ..

idnoble135:
thanks for the correction.
Conscience you said? How could it come to play if they agreed on it?
And to the issues of checking if its biblical, the bible is silent over some issues. And at such, i think they can go for this if they really want to. My point is that its not wrong to do it, its not a sin.

Sanboy25:
I'm still aren't I? I'm just bored and looking for a good subject that I show interest in in order for me to start a big debate with someone...

idnoble135:
lol, what subjects interest you on a good day?

I don't know... a controversial one... do you any interesting subjects in mind ?

tpia@:






the question is not is it wrong to do it, but is it able to be done.


ok, the answer to that is yes.

therefore, the question arising is, is it expedient.

Sanboy25:
I don't know... a controversial one... do you any interesting subjects in mind ?

idnoble135:
i could try some but i dread the hammer of the mods for we derailing.

Open a new topic then, I'll come on it.
@OP Sorry for derailing your thread...

idnoble135:
lol, this guy is funny. Hope you know that God is not against you taking drugs?

Sanboy25:

@OP Sorry for derailing your thread...

mazaje:

IVF is also like a drug, so nothing wrong with it for christians that are unable to conceive naturally. . .

J.Sparrow:
Discussig with a female friend this evening and was suprised to find out that she considered the IVF procedure to be in conflict with the bibliccal concept of " waiting on the Lord". Personally I see IVF as every other fertility treatment. I believe when medical options have been exhausted or when there was no medical condition in the first place then the concept of "waitin on the Lord" can set in. By the way a succesful IVF procedure is a miracle in itself. That's my opinion anyway would like to hear your contributions please

striktlymi:

I don't accept IVF too!