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Re: Agreement With ASSU Can't Be Implemented - FG by tontons: 11:27am On Jul 24, 2013 |
IMO i tink all des happenins serves us rite as a nation. When we ar ask 2 VOTE n PROTECT our vote wisely,we wil say NO dat we wan our own share of dividend of democracy by acceptin bribe frm money bag politicians, y som wil say dier vote wil nt count as such dey wil nt exhibit dier franchise by votin, y odas nigeria problms is nt dier problm dat d naija politicians shud go n solve naija problem y dey solve dier own family. Bt we all 4get by den ( electioneering period) dat poor health care facilities, poor educational admin, bad water n road ntwrks, selfish governance,insecurity etc ar d immediate concern n problms facin we d naija comon masses dat we nid 2 fight against by reachin a referendum 2 always vote n protect our vote wisely 4 credibility,transparency n accountability com 2015 n oda yrs 2 com. God bless naija n its citizens. |
Re: Agreement With ASSU Can't Be Implemented - FG by WANICEDUDE: 11:27am On Jul 24, 2013 |
U people dnt undstand. B4 i bcme a lecturer it was nt easw.a lot of strikes during my phd.spent a lot of money to run diz programmes. Fg should take cø care of us. I bet it final yr studnts will nt graduate diz year |
Re: Agreement With ASSU Can't Be Implemented - FG by dammy31(f): 11:28am On Jul 24, 2013 |
slap1: Maybe he just heard it the first time in a Nollywood 'movie'.i think so |
Re: Agreement With ASSU Can't Be Implemented - FG by anthoniosp(m): 11:34am On Jul 24, 2013 |
[quote author=Omni_Sparrow] Hahahahahaha. hehehe!! 2 Likes
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Re: Agreement With ASSU Can't Be Implemented - FG by onyxo76(m): 11:46am On Jul 24, 2013 |
The FG is in real hot soup. They signed an agreement with not ASUU only but with other unions as well,already SSANU and NASU are warming up to join ASUU by next week if nothing concrete happens before next week to resolve this crises. If FG bows to ASUU's demands then you can be sure that other Univ Unions will start their own strike.I wonder why FG signed an agreement they knew will be impossible to honor and implement? I only pity these helpless students who will continue to remain idle, however, the smart ones among should go and learn something that will add value to their lives pending the resolution of the strike action... |
Re: Agreement With ASSU Can't Be Implemented - FG by Tolzeal(m): 11:49am On Jul 24, 2013 |
slap1: Maybe he just heard it the first time in a Nollywood 'movie'. SHE and not HE!! Observed!! slap1: Maybe he just heard it the first time in a Nollywood 'movie'. SHE and not HE!! Observed!! |
Re: Agreement With ASSU Can't Be Implemented - FG by simpleseyi: 11:52am On Jul 24, 2013 |
ojubi: Sad but that is the bitter truth. BUT Jonathan and his nuclear family can use over One million naira for each meal making three million naira per day. This statement is not hearsay because the permanent secretary at the presidency came to the national assembly during 2013 budget defense to request for more money saying that one million naira is too small for Jonathan per meal. Jonathan can also give Asari Dokubo and other millitant leaders billions of naira monthly as security bribes; this is not hearsay either because the minister for niger delta said on national television that if they don't bribe militants, nigeria will not be able to export oil. Note that these billions of naira in security bribes to Asari Dokubo and Co is not the monthly salary paid to repentant militants. YET, you are telling me FG cannot fulfill the signed and sealed agreement. I BEG NO MAKE ME VEX OOO. 1 Like |
Re: Agreement With ASSU Can't Be Implemented - FG by samtos007: 11:58am On Jul 24, 2013 |
muredo: BUT THEY CAN GIVE NOLLYWOOD 35 BILLION,CRAZY COUNTRY OF OURSAh ah! 35 BILLION oga Ade? |
Re: Agreement With ASSU Can't Be Implemented - FG by lukaino(m): 12:01pm On Jul 24, 2013 |
hillsate: Only an irresponsible government will even contemplate a mutually agreed and signed agreement. |
Re: Agreement With ASSU Can't Be Implemented - FG by samtos007: 12:02pm On Jul 24, 2013 |
WANICEDUDE: U people dnt undstand. B4 i bcme a lecturer it was nt easw.a lot of strikes during my phd.spent a lot of money to run diz programmes. Fg should take cø care of us. I bet it final yr studnts will nt graduate diz yearAh ah! Na curse? |
Re: Agreement With ASSU Can't Be Implemented - FG by RedCard1(m): 12:03pm On Jul 24, 2013 |
We are JAMBITES are the ones suffering it. My Post UTME has been postponed till further notice. I don't even know why I applied to a State University. |
Re: Agreement With ASSU Can't Be Implemented - FG by FOLYKAZE(m): 12:04pm On Jul 24, 2013 |
Ghana on my mind. Im getting sick with this strike all the time |
Re: Agreement With ASSU Can't Be Implemented - FG by tomzman: 12:11pm On Jul 24, 2013 |
In saner climes, the minister of labour would have been sacked by now. The guy doesn't think before talking. That was how he said in January last year that the government doesn't defer to the wishes of people. How can you say the government 'inherited' an agreement! Isn't there meant to be continuity in govt? If it were benefits that concerned him as the minister, would he refuse them because it was signed by the previous administration? Only divine intervention can save this country! |
Re: Agreement With ASSU Can't Be Implemented - FG by Rachygee(f): 12:13pm On Jul 24, 2013 |
ojubi: Agreement with ASUU can’t be implemented, says govt |
Re: Agreement With ASSU Can't Be Implemented - FG by McLuhan(m): 12:16pm On Jul 24, 2013 |
ojubi: Sad but that is the bitter truth.To put it midly, your post is full of untruths, inexactitudes, and non sequiturs. First, ASUU never single-handedly drafted an agreement, neither did it foist any such agreement on government. Rather, the agreement to which you are referring was drawn up by a multipartite committee headed by a government appointee, Deacon Gamaliel Onosode (who is still alive), and comprising representatives of the Ministries of Education and Labour, the National Universities Commission, the Committee of Vice-Chancellors, and the Office of the Accountant-General, to name just a few. If you had been reading the papers at that time, you would have discovered that it took more than three years of gruelling negotiations to arive at that agreement in 2009. Furthermore, that agreement was not implemented, and it took a brief strike in 2011/1012 for the FG to sign a memorandum of understanding, pledging to implement the agreement in its entirety. The question one should ask is: If the FG knew that the agreement was impracticable, as the Hon. Minister now alleges, why did the FG enter into it in the first instance, and why did it reaffirm it through an MOU in 2011? Now, as to the fear of a domino effect involving similar requests and strikes by other unions: that question does not arise. The demands and challenges of Nigerian tertiary education are unique. How many other workers have to produce world-class chemists using kerosene stoves instead of bunsen burners? Which other professionals resort to the use of mobile phone torchlights to teach practical surgery? Which group of workers must rely on antiquated libraries, with most of the books published before 1970, to teach the latest techniques in electronic engineering and the use of new media? In your post, you also alleged that ASUU (which you misspelt as ASSU) is demanding 90 billion Naira from the FG, an amount which you claim government cannot pay, since, in your opinion, such a capitulation would result in astronomical increments in tuition fees. Since the latter part of this allegation is so obviously a case of scaremongering, I have elected not to respond to it. As to the amount that you have mentioned - an amount which is incorrect anyway and which is not for a salary hike as you seem to imply - I should like to remind you that during the banking crisis, government bailed out some private banks (note, PRIVATE banks) with a combined sum that exceeded one trillion Naira. Are you suggesting, then, that the education sector is of such little importance that government cannot spend the (hypothetical) amount of 90 billion Naira to salvage it? My dear friend, I assure you that tertiary education in Nigeria is in a very bad state, owing mainly to years of underfunding and neglect. I am sorry if I have sometimes sounded rather rude in my reply; it is because I have seen quality education elsewhere and I know that what goes by the name of tertiary education in Nigeria is a joke. Ask yourself: Why is it that no Nigerian institution of higher learning is listed among the first 2000 universities in the world by ANY educational standards or evaluation organisation? Can all these organisations be wrong? Conduct your own research, my friend: Is there any country in the world that ever became a modern developed nation, as Nigeria aspires to be, with the kind of tertiary education we have in this country? I agree that incessant strikes might not be the answer, but in a political situation like the one in Nigeria, where politicians are impervious to all pleas and are interested only in feathering their own nests, what else can a labour union like ASUU do? When you have written more than three hundred letters of appeal over a four-year period; when you have paid hundreds of courtesy calls on legislators, religious leaders, traditional rulers, statesmen, leaders of other unions, students' leaders and even market women; when you have addressed countless press conferences and have expended your meagre resources in publishing press releases and SOS messages in the media - when you have done all these with minimal or no results, what do you do? 6 Likes |
Re: Agreement With ASSU Can't Be Implemented - FG by Nobody: 12:16pm On Jul 24, 2013 |
ASUU is full of crap because students take school's crap. I keep wondering how bad it will be for them if all the tertiary students turn the table on them and go on strike for a year. Then they would know that student is the boss. They have got their jobs(which they carry out poorly) because there are people willing to be lectured by them. |
Re: Agreement With ASSU Can't Be Implemented - FG by Nobody: 12:17pm On Jul 24, 2013 |
ITbomb:On point. I wonder that most people on this NL don't even understand why ASUU is on strike. They all think is all about salary. |
Re: Agreement With ASSU Can't Be Implemented - FG by Demdem(m): 12:25pm On Jul 24, 2013 |
List of ASUU demand i. Funding requirements for Revitalization of theNigerian Universities [s]ii. Federal Government Assistance to State Universities[/s] iii. Establishment of NUPEMCO iv. Progressive increase in Annual Budgetary Allocation to Education to 26% between 2009 and 2020 v. Earned Allowances vi. Amendment of the Pension/Retirement Age of Academics on the Professorial cadre from 65to 70 years vii. Reinstatement of prematurely dissolved Governing Councils viii. Transfer of Federal Government Landed Property to Universities ix. Setting up of Research Development Counciland Provision of Research Equipment to laboratories and classrooms in our universities. And what is so difficult to implement from the above? I think and strongly believe that ASUU shouldnt back down till all of the above is implemented this time around. |
Re: Agreement With ASSU Can't Be Implemented - FG by Nobody: 12:28pm On Jul 24, 2013 |
Asteriva:It is actually easy to spot where they come from by their comments. Foreign lecturers? Does he even know how desperate foreign universities are at snatching our lecturers? Does he know how many people among our lecturers who have run to the US, UK, Canada etc for greener pasture? If the way Nigeria does business now is not addressed, in the next 20 yrs, Nigeria would find it hard to have 1 per cent of the lecturers it needs in it universities. All the young guys coming into the profession would have run away to the sane countries where academic works are respected. 1 Like |
Re: Agreement With ASSU Can't Be Implemented - FG by hillsate: 12:46pm On Jul 24, 2013 |
Lordave: Calm down. We understand how badly it affects you, and making all these noises on Nairaland won't solve anything. What a shame. I had my succulent first degree some plenty years ago. I am really concerned for the generation coming on, for posterity, for my children . . . Am also doing some advocacy on our educational state. We are making the noise everywhere. I can let you in on some government usernames here to make your silly head understand that noise on nairaland is taken seriously. So stup1d, you that is not affected, what are you doing? |
Re: Agreement With ASSU Can't Be Implemented - FG by Trusty247(f): 12:53pm On Jul 24, 2013 |
slap1: Maybe he just heard it the first time in a Nollywood 'movie'.lol.could be. |
Re: Agreement With ASSU Can't Be Implemented - FG by oladistinct(m): 12:53pm On Jul 24, 2013 |
slap1: Maybe he just heard it the first time in a Nollywood 'movie'.tink so too |
Re: Agreement With ASSU Can't Be Implemented - FG by Nobody: 12:54pm On Jul 24, 2013 |
BimiOne: we are doomedkindly personalise dat.. |
Re: Agreement With ASSU Can't Be Implemented - FG by Gentlelad: 12:58pm On Jul 24, 2013 |
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Re: Agreement With ASSU Can't Be Implemented - FG by amacastel: 12:58pm On Jul 24, 2013 |
Asteriva:. Foreign lectures won't sale handout,sortout,miss class give impromptu quiz and assignment without teaching,sexually harass our female students,for payment check google u will see that nigeria lectures are among the best paid in Africa and some part of world yet they teach less and demand more if govt equip labs with less concerned lectures is as gud as the same the problem of our educational system is our lectures 1st b4 govt cos I went to sch of nursing here in nigeria u need to see how th lectures teach ,no hand out or sort out nobody sexually harass u wen u read u pass if u don't u are eliminated bt wen I got admission in unec 4 ma post bsc I am shock on wot I saw even the final year nursing student have not cover their syllabus theoretically so with other department yet they issue certificate to half baked graduates even 1st class to the most dumb student cos of money nigeria lectures are worse than politicians DO our lectures need lab to teach in class room let dem do their hom work 1st.I quietly withdraw soon I wil leave to uk to complete ma studies. ASUU don't Deserve dime from govt cos they won't use it 4 sch rada they will embezzle the fund period |
Re: Agreement With ASSU Can't Be Implemented - FG by brosun(m): 1:00pm On Jul 24, 2013 |
datChelseaBoy: This ASUU too dey give trouble sefAre you familiar with the issues on ground? 1 Like |
Re: Agreement With ASSU Can't Be Implemented - FG by fallingsky(m): 1:04pm On Jul 24, 2013 |
[quote author=Onwe101]ASUU see i must graduate dis yr o! make una just respect unaself.. . Wat is the purpose of graduating wen u can't get a job |
Re: Agreement With ASSU Can't Be Implemented - FG by brosun(m): 1:06pm On Jul 24, 2013 |
amacastel: . Foreign lectures won't sale handout,sortout,miss class give impromptu quiz and assignment without teaching,sexually harass our female students,for payment check google u will see that nigeria lectures are among the best paid in Africa and some part of world yet they teach less and demand more if govt equip labs with less concerned lectures is as gud as the same the problem of our educational system is our lectures 1st b4 govt cos I went to sch of nursing here in nigeria u need to see how th lectures teach ,no hand out or sort out nobody sexually harass u wen u read u pass if u don't u are eliminated bt wen I got admission in unec 4 ma post bsc I am shock on wot I saw even the final year nursing student have not cover their syllabus theoretically so with other department yet they issue certificate to half baked graduates even 1st class to the most dumb student cos of money nigeria lectures are worse than politicians DO our lectures need lab to teach in class room let dem do their hom work 1st.I quietly withdraw soon I wil leave to uk to complete ma studies. ASUU don't Deserve dime from govt cos they won't use it 4 sch rada they will embezzle the fund periodYou need to work hard on your grammar to justify the good things you have said about the school of nusrsing you said you went in which you had such fantastic teachers. 1 Like |
Re: Agreement With ASSU Can't Be Implemented - FG by Excellent7(m): 1:11pm On Jul 24, 2013 |
amacastel: Well well this is absurd but the truth is this ASUU are the same with the govt the funds that are been given to them earlier wot have they been doing with it nothing I never know that govt give them dime b4 yet they sale hand out ,sort out,miss lectures,behave any how they want as if they are demi god let's not forget that GEJ is in the system b4 so he know wots up with ASUU and money we just need revolution I urge federal govt to employ foreign lectures then we will see a turn arund in our educational system cos our nigerian lectures are wicked,proud,arrogant even worse than the politicians bt these are people that dis country use their money to train I strongly support the federal govt on dis issue@amascatel You don't seem to understand the extent of decay in the tertiary education system. I bet you that if the government advertises for university teaching positions for foreign academics to teach in our schools even with 50% mark up on current wages and allowances, very few non-nigerian academicians will apply (if any) in the SETs (Science, Engineering and Technology area). This is because at a point in your career wages alone stop being a significant motivating factor. Enhanced wages without the tools and critical mass to be at the fore front in your area of specialization are critical to most disciplined and highly qualified academics. Check out the many adverts on the papers for middle and top level academics,few people are available to take the offer. Go around our universities, you will find may be less than 0.5% foreign lecturers (mostly due to marriage to Nigerian partners) unlike in the 80's and 90's when our schools could be regarded as international in terms of staffing and students (these are part of the criteria employed in ranking universities). For instance a Phd degree in say Engineering for a Masters degree holder takes a minimum of 3 years and costs with living costs about 24,000 GBP per annum (conservative estimated living cost included) X 3 years = 72,000 GBP @ GBP:NGN approximately 265NGN to 1 GBP this costs 19,080,000.00 NGN (approx. 20 million NGN. Imagine spending 20 mil on the last and terminal stage of your education and being offered circa 2- 2.5 mil per annum teaching position without infrastructure at home (where you will expire intellectually after 3 years and take 8-10 years to earn back your doctoral expenses!! Compare this with your host country in appreciation of your newly acquired skills give you leave to stay and high possibility of working in the state of the art niche in your field with possibility of earning your doctoral expenses in 2-4 years or less. The government has partly realized this and have commenced scholarship for which I commend them especially through the TETFUND scholarships etc. However a lot more needs to be done in terms of infrastructure. In my own opinion our universities should not be offering Masters & PhDs in Engineering,physical,and biological sciences ( the infrastructure is just not there). The government needs to sit down with the stakeholders once and for all and solve this problem. The government should not just throw money at the problem. They should invest money and follow the money to ensure value for money spent. University administration and management like every sphere of our system is corrupt and wasteful. This needs to be looked into too. Government needs to work with ASUU to restore glory to our universities. It will be refresshing to see highly cited papers emanating from nigerian universities and nigerian universities with great international diversity in academic staffing and student population (greater than 20%), not the "tribal conclaves" our schools are gradually becoming. |
Re: Agreement With ASSU Can't Be Implemented - FG by trolling(m): 1:13pm On Jul 24, 2013 |
( hillsate:Didn't know degrees were succulent hillsate:Didn't know degrees were succulent |
Re: Agreement With ASSU Can't Be Implemented - FG by trolling(m): 1:15pm On Jul 24, 2013 |
[quote author=fallingsky][/quote]u just dey realize dat one |
Re: Agreement With ASSU Can't Be Implemented - FG by trolling(m): 1:16pm On Jul 24, 2013 |
[quote author=fallingsky][/quote]u just dey realize dat one |
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