chkil0:
first pic of the Egyptian Mig 29/35 in moscou , delivry starting soon , 46 ordered

Where does Egypt get the money to pay for all these big ticket items?

Henry240:


Where does Egypt get the money to pay for all these big ticket items?

the deal is primarily funded by Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates. and they got support of Egyptian troops in Yemen the same for mistral and ka 52 contract

egypt sell its politic support to usa ( Egypt–Israel Peace Treaty) , saudi arabia , gulf coutries and get lot of money for its army

chkil0:


the deal is primarily funded by Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates. and they got support of Egyptian troops in Yemen the same for mistral and ka 52 contract

egypt sell its politic support to usa ( Egypt–Israel Peace Treaty) , saudi arabia , gulf coutries and get lot of money for its army

soft loans or totally free ?

nemesis2u:


soft loans or totally free ?

not clear for this deal , egypt receive so many billions loans from saudi arabia and gulf for its economy ($30 billion this last years according to reports)

for military contract for egypt, saudi arabia is financing but loans or free ? ; its secret arrangement between the two gouverment

GreenandGold:
I know this is a repost

A 3D render of the of the SAAF Mirage III with the old colour scheme before the Border War, I'm in love.

I'll see your Mirage and raise you a Cava !
Oh, what could've been had we finished this project .

PIC 1: in the modern scheme;
PIC 2: in the Mirage cammo scheme.

Nigerian Army

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvl38-q5p7s

How we applied R & D to keep NAF Fighter Aircraft Afloat-Air Chief.

By Oghenahogie OshokoPublishedWednesday 29 March 2017 6:00 PM

NAF/Research/Development

Chief of Air Staff, Air Marshal Sadique Abubakar has said that the nation is presently saving about N38 million in foreign exchange, an amount it would have spent on importation six hydraulic accumulator diaphragms for each MI-35 helicopter gunship.
The diaphragms are currently being produced locally by the Nigerian Air Force.
Abubakar, who was speaking at the 9th Asiwaju Bola Tinubu Colloquium at the Eko Hotel, Lagos, disclosed that the Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAV), also being manufactured locally, has capacity to be airborne for eight to 10 hours.
He said the UAVs can fly at an altitude of 10,000 feet and cruise speed of 55 knots, equivalent to 102-kilometre per hour when operational.
Delivering his keynote speech at the event tagged ‘Make it in Nigeria’, the Air Chief said that the NAF has through its research and development efforts and its partnership with 22 tertiary institutions in the country, manufactured six vital spare parts of aircraft locally .
In addition to saving the nation millions through the initiatives of looking inwards, Abubakar said the NAF was vigorously prosecuting the war against insurgency and militancy, without nursing the fear of aircraft being grounded because of lack of spare parts.
The Air Chief, who was one time in charge of research and development at NAF HQ, stated that the effectiveness of the NAF, in the long-term, depended on the extent of the growth of its home-based technology.
He words, “The research and development efforts of the Nigerian Air Force, in partnership with various tertiary institutions and other local organizations, have resulted in notable breakthroughs.
“First breakthrough has to do with the production of hydraulic accumulator diaphragms for MI-35 helicopters.”
“This is a very important component of the Mi-35 helicopter, which is one of the main platforms being employed in the Northeast. Aside from being very expensive, the diaphragm requires frequent replacements to assure safe conduct of flying operations.
“Often times, Mi-35 helicopters become grounded due to faulty hydraulic accumulator diaphragms.
“Efforts made to procure the diaphragm from the manufacturers of the helicopter revealed that it was scarce to source and very expensive.
“The NAF eventually had to procure six diaphragms only at the cost of $106,000. That situation led to the commencement of in-house research on the production of the diaphragm.
“In the course of the research, the NAF collaborated with some mechanical and rubber technologies outfits in the country, resulting in the production of the first prototype.
“Ever since, the production has undergone many modifications and I am glad to announce that we have now produced a better version of the one from the original equipment manufacturer at a cost of just N25,000.
“Second breakthrough has to do with the challenge of incompatibility of camera and multi-function display on Agusta 109 helicopter.
“The Agusta 109 helicopter is frequently employed in the Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance role in the Northeast and other theatres of operation.
“The helicopter’s camera and its Multi-Function Display, which displays various aircraft parameters, were integrated by the Original Equipment Manufacturer.
“However, with time, a conflict arose between these systems with attendant adverse effect on operations.
“The foreign firm, which was contacted to rectify the snag, submitted a bill of N158 million, an amount that the NAF considered as being prohibitive.
“Consequently, the Nigerian Air Force, looking inwards, set up a Research and Development Committee led by Air Vice Marshal I Bukar, to try and rectify the snag.
“The committee was able to successfully separate the camera from the Multi-Function Display while providing an additional monitor for the camera.
“Both of them now work independently without any operational hitches and N5 million only was spent to accomplish this feat as against the N158 million that was demanded by the foreign firm.
“The F-7Ni aircraft is a fighter aircraft employed in deep interdiction role in the Northeast. Among the challenges faced in the operation of the aircraft was the maintenance of the Airborne Alkaline Batteries supplied by the Original Equipment Manufacturer.
“The battery had a service life of one year and shelf life of two years, making its durability very poor.
“The battery also required regular charging and topping of its electrolyte, which had to be procured from overseas.
“The impression given by the manufacturers was that the electrolyte had special additives and could neither be tampered with nor sourced locally.
“Meanwhile, the corrosive nature of the electrolyte made it difficult to import, as shippers were always reluctant to ship it, thereby leading to increased aircraft downtimes.
“To resolve the problem of electrolyte, which rendered most of the batteries un-useable, the NAF commissioned a Research and Development Team in collaboration with the Benue State University, Makurdi.
“The research team was able to successfully produce a replacement electrolyte for the F-7Ni aircraft batteries. It is gladdening to note that we do not import electrolyte for the F-7Ni aircraft batteries again.”
END

frumentius:

I'll see your Mirage and raise you a Cava ! Oh, what could've been had we finished this project .
PIC 1: in the modern scheme; PIC 2: in the Mirage cammo scheme.

Twin engines!

NAF

tdayof:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iwECQyn3Sc

Doesn't look well co-ordinated, why? obostone

It was not president Buhari, It was Presidents and high ranking officials attending the 60th independence anniversary at the independent square, lot of crowd. Probably that is why it was like that. Point taken, they should have done better. Sometime I wonder how the security personnel are able to maintain security in such atmosphere. Salute for their service.

Obostone:


It was not president Buhari, It was Presidents and high ranking officials attending the 60th independence anniversary at the independent square, lot of crowd. Probably that is why it was like that. Point taken, they should have done better. Sometime I wonder how the security personnel are able to maintain security in such atmosphere. Salute for their service.

In as much as I commend their service, it should be noted that such thing could have been avoided. There are a lot of dignitaries there and security should be at its peak. A lot of Presidents, Diplomats etc. I am not saying keep Civilians out of such gathering but the issue is if there was an attack there, getting VIP out of that area won't be easy for the security.

I noticed civilians passing through Presidents convoys. Isn't that too risky? Some even crossed and there was a VIP vehicle that had to stop due to a guy trying to cross to the other side.

tdayof:

In as much as I commend their service, it should be noted that such thing could have been avoided. There are a lot of dignitaries there and security should be at its peak. A lot of Presidents, Diplomats etc. I am not saying keep Civilians out of such gathering but the issue is if there was an attack there, getting VIP out of that area won't be easy for the security.

I noticed civilians passing through Presidents convoys. Isn't that too risky? Some even crossed and there was a VIP vehicle that had to stop due to a guy trying to cross to the other side.

In my humble submission, I don't think this is Obostone's problem, after all he lived in the US. The protocol officers did not do thier job, they should take the fall.

frumentius:


I'll see your Mirage and raise you a Cava !
Oh, what could've been had we finished this project .

PIC 1: in the modern scheme;
PIC 2: in the Mirage cammo scheme.

We know how to blow money, we threw $2 billion on the CAVA and produced no real aircraft.

But honestly though, we helped the Chinese create the Jian-10 with our research effort.

MikeCZA:
Twin engines!

No one is actually sure about that.. According to some alleged engineer who worked there, the project was initiated a big double engine because South Africa didn't have access to powerful engines to produce an agile single engine craft.

Then they spent too much time on how it should look like, the avionics and forth. Apparently the Israelis stalled the whole process because they wanted to work a bit longer (the pay and the beer was good). Then later came the French team who had worked on a botched Saudi funded prototype also changing the design to resemble the French mirage.

Then more French arrived with Rafale blueprints. Before everyone knew it, the Cubans were out of Angola the Soviet Union went broke and South Africa was talking all-inclusive elections.

GreenandGold:



But honestly though, we helped the Chinese create the Jian-10 with our research effort.

dis got me cracking.

na wetin person no go hear for this world.

The original concept was for a single engine (ATAR) The story goes that the new Chief of SAAF gen. changed it to a twin, because he was a ex Buccaneer driver and wanted the new plane to have a heavier attack role. Originally it would have been a very similar to, yet upgraded, version of the mirage 2000. If it wasn't for sanctions we would have probably ended up with a fleet of 2000's anyway.

My personal belief is that CAVA was more of a RnD exercise. We simply did not have the economic muscle to develop a fighter from scratch.
The Mirage F1 would have been next in line to be upgraded after the Cheetah C.
The only reason it wasn't chosen as a base for the Cheetah was that we couldn't withdraw them from SWA to do the upgrade as it would have left our airspace virtually undefended, so they used the old Mirage III airframes that were at the end of their lifespan anyway. The F1 is a much more formidable aircraft than the Mirage III in every aspect and would have been competitive to late model F16's on paper if it was put through a upgrade.

A super mirage F1 armed with a new Elta/Reutech avionics suite and armed with all the AA / AG weaponry that Kentron had in the works would have been very formidable in Southern Africa. Even against Sukhois. We would have ended up with 100+ fighters armed with A-Darter, R-darter,T-Darter, Mupsaw, Torgos, Umbani etc. More than a match for a couple dozen Sukhois who had limited (and vulnerable) air bases to operate from. The weaknesses of the SNECMA Atar 09K50 could have been minimised by utilizing better design and composites to stretch more performance out of the F1 airframe.

GreenandGold:


No one is actually sure about that.. According to some alleged engineer who worked there, the project was initiated a big double engine because South Africa didn't have access to powerful engines to produce an agile single engine craft.

Then they spent too much time on how it should look like, the avionics and forth. Apparently the Israelis stalled the whole process because they wanted to work a bit longer (the pay and the beer was good). Then later came the French team who had worked on a botched Saudi funded prototype also changing the design to resemble the French mirage.

Then more French arrived with Rafale blueprints. Before everyone knew it, the Cubans were out of Angola the Soviet Union went broke and South Africa was talking all-inclusive elections.

NA.
Pic 1: MSF (i presume they are AFSF now) approaching a BH base ready to engage them.
Pic 2: Taking delivery of/off-loading Munitions.

Zambian L-15, NAF see replacement for alpha jet here ! let me just casually mention AIRBORNE360

NA Streit Spartan LAV/APC modified with twin cannons

GreenandGold:


No one is actually sure about that.. According to some alleged engineer who worked there, the project was initiated a big double engine because South Africa didn't have access to powerful engines to produce an agile single engine craft.

Then they spent too much time on how it should look like, the avionics and forth. Apparently the Israelis stalled the whole process because they wanted to work a bit longer (the pay and the beer was good). Then later came the French team who had worked on a botched Saudi funded prototype also changing the design to resemble the French mirage.

Then more French arrived with Rafale blueprints. Before everyone knew it, the Cubans were out of Angola the Soviet Union went broke and South Africa was talking all-inclusive elections.

The Saudi prototype you mention wasn't exactly botched. It was the very successful Mirage 4000, which was an excellent strike fighter and superior in every way to the Mirage 2000 and in some respects the Rafale as well.

For comparison, it had an operating range over three times that of the latest Mirage 2000-5.

It could also fly faster (Mach 2.2) and at much higher altitudes (service ceiling was 20,000m) than either the Rafale or the Mirage 2000.

The French rejected it because they already bought a ton of Mirage 2000s just a few years earlier, which had the added bonus of being cheaper and easier to launch off carriers. For a while the Saudis supported the programme but then picked the Tornado instead due to cost and more favourable terms offered by BAE (as well as some alleged kickbacks paid to members of the Saudi Royal Family).

So the Mirage 4000 died, but it was still one of the best all-around strike fighters ever designed during the Cold War.

The Mirage 4000 was a massive aircraft, probably the largest ever built using the delta winged Mirage design. It absolutely dwarfs the Mirage 2000 when they're photographed next to each other.

You'll note that a lot of the conjecture line drawings and sketches of the Atlas Carver bear an eerie resemblance to the Mirage 4000, and some of the supposed dimensions of the Carver are also the same.

GreenandGold:


No one is actually sure about that.. According to some alleged engineer who worked there, the project was initiated a big double engine because South Africa didn't have access to powerful engines to produce an agile single engine craft.

Then they spent too much time on how it should look like, the avionics and forth. Apparently the Israelis stalled the whole process because they wanted to work a bit longer (the pay and the beer was good). Then later came the French team who had worked on a botched Saudi funded prototype also changing the design to resemble the French mirage.

Then more French arrived with Rafale blueprints. Before everyone knew it, the Cubans were out of Angola the Soviet Union went broke and South Africa was talking all-inclusive elections.

Darren over at African Defence Review wrote an interesting essay on the CAVA.
https://www.africandefence.net/project-carver-emerges-from-the-shadows/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5rN4hbGzzo&app=desktop

Final push Video showing maneuvers, also footage of NA tanks, dune buggys and troops.
Not behind my desk, would have done more screenshots

FREMM fregate , egyptian navy

1- F16 with AIM-9 Sidewinder and GBU 12 ,
2- rafale , mirage 2000
3,4 - F16
egyptian air force

still with egypt

F 16 block 52 , egyptian AF

chkil0:
still with egypt

This is getting out of hand

giles14:
dis got me cracking.
na wetin person no go hear for this world.

You know nothing about these things so keep your mouth shut.

GreenandGold:


This is getting out of hand

just found the arabic military forum of egyptians , so many piiiiiics to share

frumentius:


Darren over at African Defence Review wrote an interesting essay on the CAVA.
https://www.africandefence.net/project-carver-emerges-from-the-shadows/

You may also check out this one from an alleged CAVA engineer.

https://bayourenaissanceman..co.ke/2011/06/weekend-wings-40-south-africas-franken.html?m=1

chkil0:


just found the arabic military forum of egyptians , so many piiiiiics to share

That's why I always say I'm glad you guys are very far from us down-south