agaugust:


[s]Source did not say Hyena MRAP was developed by South Africa.

A country can get design from abroad, import the prototype, and build it, then export same.

The general history of MRAP technology clearly says :

"The MRAP design was first introduced in specialized vehicles in the 1970s built by and for the Rhodesian Army, and further developed by South African manufacturers." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MRAP

Same way Leopard MRAP was invented and developed in Zimbabwe, then exported to South Africa for reverse engineering to produce South African MRAPs which were then manufactured and exported by South Africa.

History records the Zimbabwean Leopard as the FORE-RUNNER of all other MRAPs produced in Southern Africa and Central Africa, the whole world is led by Zimbabwe`s MRAP design, that is the record of history.

"After the unfortunate death of a close relative in a land-mine incident in 1974, inventor Ernest Konschel began exhaustive research on land-mine damaged vehicles and mine craters, ultimately designing and producing the first in a series of dedicated monocoque construction mine resisting vehicles, the Leopard.

(Monocoque meaning the body forms the chassis or frame of the motor vehicle, as opposed to a purpose made chassis).

This design is a forerunner to many of the mine resistant vehicles developed and used in Southern and Central Africa from that time to the present."

http://www.baragwanath.co.za/leopar

PHOTO : Zimbawean Leopard MRAP invention, imported into South Africa for reverse engineering, displayed by Technical team at South African National Museum of Military History inside South Africa [/s]
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Augustus why are you trying to argue?

You were wrong, the Hyhena was produced in 1972, the Leopard in 1974

Hyena is the first MRAP

Just concede that you were mistaken, there is nothing wrong with making a mistake, and move on.

This is not the place for argument

agaugust:


Kindly tell Patches to stop attacking my comments, I have sources and photos to back up my comments. If he has contrary opinion, let him do his own separate comments and ignore my own. Simple.

Thanks man.

Stop posting incorrect information.

jln115:

Hahahah My Sunday nights will never be the same again, at least i was fortunate enough to see them live once!! But the good thing is that, it seems like Jeremy,James and Richard are very likely going to start a new car show to rival the new Top Gear, BBC will realize that they killed Top Gear the day they fired Clarkson!

They are in talks with ITV for a rival show, to be aired at the same prime time slot as Top Gear. They are also in talks with a U.S. based company for world wide distribution of the show, it's either Amazon prime or Netflix.

Everyone here in the UK knows the new top gear presenter is a w@nk£r, his ego is bigger than a C130. The guys at the Beeb are just wasting tax payer's money, they felt once you have many expensive cars, you automatically would be a good presenter.

SAAF

Patchesagain:


There are no ill feelings, I am simply correcting you on a mistaken post you have made.

South African Hyhena was the first MRAP

I find it strange that you are so unwilling pay give South Africa the credit it deserves, as you say Historical Facts should be accepted without ill feelings

Technically it would be the telefoonhokkie followed by the Kameel. You could count the number of them on your hand though.

[img]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/wZgfxi2K6liUrbusPGEZlKPszNh_-MKo9meEpyc4b_ru4_vq5rcn15ZtTTc2mLtxZ7EyMX8Hr5YVMxCtltr0WK6wqeJas7MBWQhDpyag=w466-h316-nc[/img]

Joint U.S and Camerounian Para-Drop exercise

More

Patchesagain:


Stop posting incorrect information.

i love you guys ,your arguments are my learning lessons

Somalia: Heightened Security, Increased Police Patrols to Prevent Militant Attacks

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpSZog9neZE

andrewza:


Technically it would be the telefoonhokkie followed by the Kameel. You could count the number of them on your hand though.

[img]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/wZgfxi2K6liUrbusPGEZlKPszNh_-MKo9meEpyc4b_ru4_vq5rcn15ZtTTc2mLtxZ7EyMX8Hr5YVMxCtltr0WK6wqeJas7MBWQhDpyag=w466-h316-nc[/img]

Early days led to some bizzare MRAP's

africaken:
i love you guys ,your arguments are my learning lessons

NO, they should stop derailing this thread!

It is attitudes like theirs that keep breeding Dictators and Tyrants who just won't leave power.

Henry120:


NO, they should stop derailing this thread!

It is attitudes like theirs that keep breeding Dictators and Tyrants who just won't leave power.

Talking and posting pics of these early MRAPs is not a bad idea though. Some of them where bonkers. There are 2 books on the subject. "Taming the landmine" and "surving the ride". Both good and worth a read.

andrewza:


Talking and posting pics of these early MRAPs is not a bad idea though. Some of them where bonkers. There are 2 books on the subject. "Taming the landmine" and "surving the ride". Both good and worth a read.

Posting photos and discussing about the photos is great, however total off-topic posting is a no no. Doing that and we would eventually run down this thread.

Cameroun

Henry120:
Cameroun

when did they start using the FAMAS?

Patchesagain:


when did they start using the FAMAS?

I don't know for sure, but FOMAC forces from cameroun have always had the FAMAS. Camerounian soldiers carry the AK-47 as well as the FAMAS, while their Special forces unit (BIR) get issued Tavor-21s, Galil ACE, Negev LMG and some high powered sniper rifle.

past news reports of kenya defence force campaign in somalia

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK_U1aWTllo

Henry120:


Posting photos and discussing about the photos is great, however total off-topic posting is a no no. Doing that and we would eventually run down this thread.

agree,also as well as sharing photos we can pass on knowledge so that we can enlighten each other

Rwanda National police patriotic rap song

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiLzsymeeCE

africaken:
i believe both sudan and uganda have it

Yes.

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Tracing the Origins of 'Mine-' and 'Blast-Resistant' Vehicles

Stephen Priestley, Researcher, Canadian American Strategic Review (CASR)

http://www.casr.ca/id-blast-resistant-vehicles-2.htm

" Rhodesian Leopard mine-resistant vehicle are made in South Africa . The APVs are part of a complex lineage of blast-resistant vehicles developed on that troubled continent.

That line began in Rhodesia (now Zimbabwe) with a series of highly bizarre, mine-resist- ant types set on commercial chassis (eg: VW-based Leopard, and Pookie).

Those early vehicles were mostly built as mine-detector vehicles but they showed the way with high ground-clearance and monocoque crew compartments with a V- shaped bottom. The next step was incorporating that structure into other vehicles.

As conversions of existing types, Rhodesian mine-blast-resistant vehicles were quick to construct and made use of readily-available components. This did not go unnoticed in neighbouring South Africa facing its own anti-apartheid 'bush war'.

The threats were the same: landmine blasts from below and AK-47 rifle bullets.

'Body-on-Frame' Construction – the South Africans Follow a Rhodesian Lead

The first South African blast-resistant vehicles were a series of Kwêvoël trucks (Samil-built Deutz 4x4s and 6x6s with armoured cabs) followed by a fully armoured personnel carrier derivative – Hippo. Buffel, a more sophisticated armoured carrier type followed. All consisted of V-bottom armour compartments over truck frames."

There were several early South African vehicles very similar to the Rhodesian conversions – Hyena , Wolf, and Ribbok (an antelope). Kwêvoël is Afrikaans for a turaco (Corythaixoides). Buffel is Afrikaans for the Cape buffalo (Syncerus Caffer)
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Nigerian Air Force Super-Puma

SAAF

off topic but effort to fight terrorism on this continent

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIWj1bhf4ek

egypt air force take out sinai ISIS after they killed egyptian soldiers

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDnUHAamy6Q

africaken:
FN F2000 ,can you observe the trigger discipline of those DSS agents

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5L1d_oD0VU

Nice!!!!... Well no surprise there, he did get special forces training.

jln115:

Actually i think @africaken quite correctly pointed out that its a Beretta ARX 160!!

Yeah it's a sick gun, I hope there are actual units using it.

Centrifude:


Yeah it's a sick gun, I hope there are actual units using it.

hahaha jap, me to!

Boko Haram: President Buhari We Are Tired Of “I Will” – Kayode Ogundamisi http:///1KIC9e

DSS Agents ( Nigeria's secret Police) taking Terrorism suspects to and from courts.

More DSS

Henry240:
DSS Agents ( Nigeria's secret Police) taking Terrorism suspects to and from courts.

Man!, when I saw these pictures last year I assumed those were high Ranking Government officials being escorted around by the Secret Services.